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kosaros
09-05-2009, 03:06 PM
John O'Donnell (ESB ranked 3rd) is up against the underdog Tom Glover (ESB ranked 6th), who keeps surprising everyone with winning in fights were he was supposed to be a stepping stone. Will it happen again, or will O'Donnell break Glover's run?

Undercard involves Lee Purdy vs Peter McDonagh, and if either can win impressively tonight, they could get into the Welterweight rankings. There is a bit of history between these two as the journeyman McDonagh is the only man to have defeated Purdy so far, and Purdy will want to get his revenge.

Undfeated O'Meara is up against the journeyman McCauley. This fight won't have any impact on the light-middle rankings, but it will be a good chance to see O'Meara and see if he has the ability to mix it with the top domestic operators in the division.

Finally, Yassine El Maachi who is on a good run, faces a pretty poor opponent in Drew Campbell, who will be looking for his first win in 9 fights, although he should take El Maachi the distance as he has only been stopped twice in ten fights.

Hope this gets you a bit more interested in a pretty poor card :p although the first two fights mentioned should be good :good

gasman
09-05-2009, 03:10 PM
Yep I am watching this one tonight. I was reading in Boxing News today that many at ringside felt that Watson beat O'Donnell is their previous fight, I didnt see this fight myself......

nickythekid
09-05-2009, 03:29 PM
my girlfriend wants to watch x factor at 7.30 so i'm gonna miss first hour, scandalous isn't it:patsch oh well......i see steve o'mera on the undercard of cleverly mcintosh. he was fighting lee noble who looked tidy and sturdy, i felt watching that o'mera looked like he was struggling to get his punches off, and that noble could have won had he stepped it up abit(he looked by far the stronger). think o'mera said after that it was an off night for him. good to see what he does tonight, i read hes been in the states with degale and he sparred mayweather. hopefully if x factor finished in time i'll see him!

TFFP
09-05-2009, 03:36 PM
I thought Watson did beat O'Donnell to be honest, I had it 7-5 for him. It's a moot point though, Watson is quite a lot superior to Tom Glover.

Glover has a lot of heart and grit, but he's basically very one dimensional and predictable, straight up and down slugger. Should be made for the lanky and skilled O'Donnell to outbox him comfortably.

Grievesy
09-05-2009, 03:36 PM
Christ this is a shit card ain't it?

Still, it's some live boxing so I will be watching.

AndrewFFC
09-05-2009, 03:39 PM
Question: How often does ITV4 have live boxing?

rockandrollstar
09-05-2009, 03:39 PM
my girlfriend wants to watch x factor at 7.30 so i'm gonna miss first hour, scandalous isn't it:patsch oh well......i see steve o'mera on the undercard of cleverly mcintosh. he was fighting lee noble who looked tidy and sturdy, i felt watching that o'mera looked like he was struggling to get his punches off, and that noble could have won had he stepped it up abit(he looked by far the stronger). think o'mera said after that it was an off night for him. good to see what he does tonight, i read hes been in the states with degale and he sparred mayweather. hopefully if x factor finished in time i'll see him!

sky channel 180. Itv4+1

AndrewFFC
09-05-2009, 03:49 PM
Fuck me, this guy is like something from snatch, what a pikey!

Chinny
09-05-2009, 03:53 PM
Fuck me, this guy is like something from snatch, what a pikey!

:yep:yep

Chinny
09-05-2009, 04:03 PM
Purely for research purposes I had a little look the sponsor of tonights bill

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Aren't they the roundcard girls from the Kensington Choi bill? 'My friend' just told me he recognises some of them from one of the late night Sky channels too

sidthehat
09-05-2009, 04:05 PM
Nothing worse than shit ten rounders. Imagine a casual fan sittig through more than 20 seconds of this.

Chinny
09-05-2009, 04:37 PM
Good fight. Andy Kerr back in the mix too :good

achillesthegreat
09-05-2009, 04:42 PM
Doesn't O'Donnell owe Watson a rematch?

gasman
09-05-2009, 04:43 PM
Good fight. Andy Kerr back in the mix too :good

I was about to say that, it is good to see Andy Kerr back on the box

Chinny
09-05-2009, 04:46 PM
I was about to say that, it is good to see Andy Kerr back on the box

Yes, he asked some good questions there about Floyd. Andy's a likeable chap so people let their guard down with him.

GazOC
09-05-2009, 04:49 PM
I'm mounting a "Bring back Gabriel Clarke" campaign, AK just isn't rude enough when he barges into fighters changing rooms.

Grievesy
09-05-2009, 04:51 PM
I'm mounting a "Bring back Gabriel Clarke" campaign, AK just isn't rude enough when he barges into fighters changing rooms.

:lol::lol: Yeah, I miss that. But then again, Andy Kerr is such a nice bloke.

Hmm maybe they should have both of them. Good cop/bad cop sorta thing.

GazOC
09-05-2009, 04:56 PM
O'Mearas just not with it, he looks awful.

Sprint
09-05-2009, 05:01 PM
O'Mearas just not with it, he looks awful.

Though he'll get the decision no doubt.

EcosseBox
09-05-2009, 05:01 PM
O'Mearas just not with it, he looks awful.


I reckon he'll blame jet lag. Looks real sloppy though.

GazOC
09-05-2009, 05:03 PM
Though he'll get the decision no doubt.

Theres still half the fight to go....

nickythekid
09-05-2009, 05:08 PM
O'Mearas just not with it, he looks awful.

hes obviously got skills but something missing, looks theres nothing behind his punches, i'm no expert but i dont see him stepping up much beyond this? they said about a british title maybe. i think he'd get muscled

GazOC
09-05-2009, 05:09 PM
His body work has been OK but he doesn't seem anything exceptional. Poor power, average speed, wings a bit as well.

achillesthegreat
09-05-2009, 05:10 PM
Meara has ability but he might be all style and no substance when it comes to a genuine fight. Genuine fighters on this level pick apart their competition. If they aren't then they've usually found their level and don't go much beyond it.

nickythekid
09-05-2009, 05:12 PM
do you think an area title would be his level? theres some good guys in his division

SouthpawSlayer
09-05-2009, 05:13 PM
thank god that is over what a terrible fight, this whole card is pretty much terrible

andy kerr says degale must be pissed ff you got to spar floyd and he didnt ??????? andy still knows fuck all about boxing then

GazOC
09-05-2009, 05:14 PM
60-54? Jeez....

Sprint
09-05-2009, 05:14 PM
There you go.. :(

1stcontact
09-05-2009, 05:14 PM
I'm mounting a "Bring back Gabriel Clarke" campaign, AK just isn't rude enough when he barges into fighters changing rooms.

lol Clarke was doing the football earlier

GazOC
09-05-2009, 05:15 PM
thank god that is over what a terrible fight, this whole card is pretty much terrible

andy kerr says degale must be pissed ff you got to spar floyd and he didnt ??????? andy still knows fuck all about boxing then

The Purdy fight was a good one IMHO.

nickythekid
09-05-2009, 05:16 PM
go on glover!!!

SouthpawSlayer
09-05-2009, 05:22 PM
The Purdy fight was a good one IMHO.

only switched it on the missus was watching x factor

AndrewFFC
09-05-2009, 05:23 PM
Glovers trainer looks a right fat cunt, doesnt even need to body protector for sparring.

Chinny
09-05-2009, 05:24 PM
thank god that is over what a terrible fight, this whole card is pretty much terrible

andy kerr says degale must be pissed ff you got to spar floyd and he didnt ??????? andy still knows fuck all about boxing then

Eh? Degale asked Floyd to spar with him and Floyd said no.

ShaneTheSherrif
09-05-2009, 05:24 PM
Glovers trainer looks a right fat cunt, doesnt even need to body protector for sparring.

I was thinking that:lol: Hope Glover wins.

GazOC
09-05-2009, 05:24 PM
only switched it on the missus was watching x factor

Then I can see why you don't think much of the card!!:good

Chinny
09-05-2009, 05:25 PM
ITV are pretty good at setting the scene with the 'real life' segments.

Looking forward to seeing how Darren handles Glover

GazOC
09-05-2009, 05:33 PM
O'Donnel not really making the most of his physical advantages.

achillesthegreat
09-05-2009, 05:33 PM
O'Donnell's style doesn't do it for me. He is long, gangly and I don't like the way he holds his hands. He holds them as if he has the reflexes and defence but in reality he doesn't have neither. Style over substance me thinks. Too angled off and overshoots that hook.

It would be nice to see Glover cause an upset. Glover already seems to have got caught him with some cute moves.

achillesthegreat
09-05-2009, 05:36 PM
O'Donnel not really making the most of his physical advantages.

Didn't they say this against Watson. People gave it the bullshit - he should use his advantages. There is a difference bettwen not making the most of his advantanges and not knowing how. He would need to spread those legs and fight longer with the punches. He must fire the punches from his chin. His jab coming from his waist is weak and inaccurate. Guys get in on him much too quick. Plus his footwork isn't great. Hopping around won't do much.

achillesthegreat
09-05-2009, 05:37 PM
JOD just opened up and showed the speed and power he could deliver.

GazOC
09-05-2009, 05:41 PM
Glovers getting discouraged, I can't see this going more than another couple of rounds.

Chinny
09-05-2009, 05:42 PM
looking like a mismatch now.

Glover won't be getting too many slappers out in Ibiza after this

Darni187
09-05-2009, 05:43 PM
A bit one sided

GazOC
09-05-2009, 05:43 PM
Didn't they say this against Watson. People gave it the bullshit - he should use his advantages. There is a difference bettwen not making the most of his advantanges and not knowing how. He would need to spread those legs and fight longer with the punches. He must fire the punches from his chin. His jab coming from his waist is weak and inaccurate. Guys get in on him much too quick. Plus his footwork isn't great. Hopping around won't do much.

I don't whether he won't or he can't but he doesn't seem to be trying. His jab is terrible at times though.

achillesthegreat
09-05-2009, 05:47 PM
When JOD is being lacklustre then Glover has a chance but when JOD opens up he shows the talent difference.

GazOC
09-05-2009, 05:54 PM
No real complaint from Glover at the stoppage which usually tells you a lot.

PrideOfWales
09-05-2009, 05:55 PM
What a frustrating fight. Little power on show. Bit of a mismatch. Shitty MC.

O'Donnel's style is awful to watch. That copycat Froch jab is cringeworthy.

Just a crap night.

PrideOfWales
09-05-2009, 05:56 PM
Although, on the upside, it's nice to hear the Park Inn, Loughborough getting a mention.

achillesthegreat
09-05-2009, 05:57 PM
JOD is boring to watch.

The MC is awful. I never thought it would be so hard to find a decent MC. Can only Showtime and HBO get it right.

If a fight hasn't got a chance of ending violently then we want to see top skills or a war.

nickythekid
09-05-2009, 05:57 PM
hes like a happy meal tommy hearns when he opens up with his combo's. glover showed alot of heart, just in over his head.

Darni187
09-05-2009, 05:57 PM
Glover had no dig in any of his punches, bit of a let down.

achillesthegreat
09-05-2009, 05:59 PM
Hennessey couldn't even be bothered to shave for the fight. Even he wasn't up for it.

GazOC
09-05-2009, 06:01 PM
hes like a happy meal tommy hearns when he opens up with his combo's. glover showed alot of heart, just in over his head.

Yeah, Hearns was the guy that sprung to my mind. That low left and waving the arms about before lauching a combo.

Darni187
09-05-2009, 06:02 PM
Boxing new season

Sky 1 - 0 ITV

Mandanda
09-05-2009, 06:02 PM
O'Donnell style reminds me of a southpaw version of Charlie Zelenoff

PrideOfWales
09-05-2009, 06:02 PM
Hennessey couldn't even be bothered to shave for the fight. Even he wasn't up for it.

Hennessey reminded me of someone tonight....

Ah I know...

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nickythekid
09-05-2009, 06:02 PM
Glover had no dig in any of his punches, bit of a let down.

he done well, did his best and if wasn't stopped would have seen it to the end, top man:good

nickythekid
09-05-2009, 06:05 PM
Hennessey couldn't even be bothered to shave for the fight. Even he wasn't up for it.

:lol:

PrideOfWales
09-05-2009, 06:09 PM
Also, another thing that pissed me off was Richie Davies getting his fat ass constantly in between the camera and the boxers.

hitman_hatton1
09-05-2009, 06:09 PM
flicking between the beatles on bbc2 and the tyson-douglas programme on espn.

crap show this one. :roll:

GazOC
09-05-2009, 06:15 PM
Also, another thing that pissed me off was Richie Davies getting his fat ass constantly in between the camera and the boxers.

To be fair thats an issue for the producer sort out and switch cameras rather than the fault of Richie Davies' arse!!!

sidthehat
09-05-2009, 06:18 PM
Another rubbish Mick show - can you blame itv?

PrideOfWales
09-05-2009, 06:18 PM
To be fair thats an issue for the producer sort out and switch cameras rather than the fault of Richie Davies' arse!!!

It's difficult to get the right shot when Davies blocks off at least 3 side of the ring simultaneously with his love handles and ass.

Beeston Brawler
09-05-2009, 06:22 PM
Was Mick in the £3 Sports Direct t-shirt as well?

1stcontact
09-05-2009, 06:26 PM
Kid Gallahad???????????

brown bomber
09-05-2009, 06:30 PM
Kid Gallahad???????????

Another ingle dud.... Lucky they've got some previous form
to fall back on :-)

GazOC
09-05-2009, 06:31 PM
Kid Gallahad???????????

The name of the fighter (and the name of the film) that Elivis Presley played.

cool-cat
09-05-2009, 06:39 PM
Gotta love Tom Glover for his heart and determination.

widdy
09-05-2009, 06:40 PM
The name of the fighter (and the name of the film) that Elivis Presley played.

elvis would of twated him

GazOC
09-05-2009, 06:41 PM
Gotta love Tom Glover for his heart and determination.


And the honesty at the end, he wasn't good enough, he knew it and he didn't blame the nose for the loss.

slip&counter
09-05-2009, 06:57 PM
i hate it when on the odd accassion they don't take a break inbetween rounds, you can't hear what the corner is saying.

GPater11093
09-05-2009, 06:58 PM
O'Donnel: I cant remember ewhen i hit him but i remember hitting him

Max Molyneux
09-05-2009, 07:26 PM
Hennessey has got to stop feeding delusions into his fighters telling the they'll be world champs and that they are world cass fighters just because they win a domestic belt.

O'Donnell is no where near it.

Brook would Ko him faster than the Mexican journeyman did.

TommyV
09-05-2009, 07:50 PM
O'Donnells got quick hands and puts his combinations together well but that's about it. Obviously he's tall and has good reach aswell but he really doesn't use it much, and he's pretty open. If Tom Glover was consistently landing this pitty-pat right hands, Kelly Brook would find his chin and knock him out with one relatively soon.

UKFightFan
09-05-2009, 07:52 PM
flicking between the beatles on bbc2 and the tyson-douglas programme on espn.

crap show this one. :roll:

How can you comment if you gave it less than 34% of your attention?

I admit it didn't have Hatton getting KOed big style but it was none the less a good boxing show.

I guess northerners may not appreciate it but all 3 fights were enjoyable as it featured southern fighters.

kosaros
09-05-2009, 07:54 PM
How can you comment if you gave it less than 34% of your attention?

I admit it didn't have Hatton getting KOed big style but it was none the less a good boxing show.

I guess northerners may not appreciate it but all 3 fights were enjoyable as it featured southern fighters.

What does that have to do with anything? :huh

UKFightFan
09-05-2009, 07:55 PM
What does that have to do with anything? :huh

Because there were some good fighters and the original poster (and you) did not appreciate them :patsch

kosaros
09-05-2009, 07:58 PM
Because there were some good fighters and the original poster (and you) did not appreciate them :patsch

Because I said it was a pretty poor card?

Are you telling me that was a nicely balanced card with even fights? I enjoyed watching it, but none of the fights were competitive which = a pretty poor card.

UKFightFan
09-05-2009, 08:11 PM
Because I said it was a pretty poor card?

Are you telling me that was a nicely balanced card with even fights? I enjoyed watching it, but none of the fights were competitive which = a pretty poor card.

This is a pointless discussion. If it were3 fighters you were a fanboy of you would not be having this discussion. As it wasn't you can only appreciate a fight under certain circumstances.

The Purdy fight was close. 6 rounder. He lost the first two rounds. This meant he had to win every round to win the fight. Going into the final round it could have been a draw or a win to Purdy. Was this not close/competitive???

Although the official score for the O'Meara fight was a shutout, the commentators and people I spoke to thought the fight was a lot closer with O'Meara starting slowly and therefore dropping a few early rounds.

People like me who are local to the area Glover comes from also appreciated the effort he put up. I'd actually argue with a boxing expert (not you) that he did well early on. A few low blows and a little sloppy defense and he gets a broken nose. Obviously he was outclassed, this is what happens to a journeyman on a role, they ultimately meet a good fighter and get whopped. None the less, it was an entertaining fight and a neutral was willing on the underdog.

How did you see the 3 fights? If it was that crap why did you continue watching?

safc1990
09-05-2009, 08:20 PM
I liked Glovers "You know" interview before the fight, rivalled Khan's "You know what I mean?" interview after the Limond fight.

kosaros
09-05-2009, 08:22 PM
Because I said it was a pretty poor card?

Are you telling me that was a nicely balanced card with even fights? I enjoyed watching it, but none of the fights were competitive which = a pretty poor card.

This is a pointless discussion. If it were3 fighters you were a fanboy of you would not be having this discussion. As it wasn't you can only appreciate a fight under certain circumstances.

The Purdy fight was close. 6 rounder. He lost the first two rounds. This meant he had to win every round to win the fight. Going into the final round it could have been a draw or a win to Purdy. Was this not close/competitive???

Although the official score for the O'Meara fight was a shutout, the commentators and people I spoke to thought the fight was a lot closer with O'Meara starting slowly and therefore dropping a few early rounds.

People like me who are local to the area Glover comes from also appreciated the effort he put up. I'd actually argue with a boxing expert (not you) that he did well early on. A few low blows and a little sloppy defense and he gets a broken nose. Obviously he was outclassed, this is what happens to a journeyman on a role, they ultimately meet a good fighter and get whopped. None the less, it was an entertaining fight and a neutral was willing on the underdog.

How did you see the 3 fights? If it was that crap why did you continue watching?

:think

Anyway, I like Glover, he is a bit one dimensional, but he shows a lot of heart and is a likeable fella, but lets be honest he wasn't in that fight tonight.

O'Meara fight was messy, not much action and yeah it was closer than what the ref scored it (60-54??), but it was a close, but clear victory.

The Purdy fight to me was not close, he was winning it and bossing the fight - it was entertaining, but I am not likely to watch a repeat of it anytime soon.

El Maachi was good tonight, liked his style, just threw punches from all angles and looked the goods domestically.

safc1990
09-05-2009, 08:24 PM
What fights were shown after O'Donnell vs Glover? I had to go and look after my little sister as soon as that fight ended.

kosaros
09-05-2009, 08:27 PM
What fights were shown after O'Donnell vs Glover? I had to go and look after my little sister as soon as that fight ended.

El Maachi and that Kid Galahan (last round only) - you didn't miss too much, good finish from El Maachi in his fight though.

Dan684
09-06-2009, 05:03 AM
UKFIGHTFAN -

I cannot qoute your comments and highlight the errors as my works computer is 'tied down' and has some filters on it so instead I shall highlight them below...

"I guess northerners may not appreciate it but all 3 fights were enjoyable as it featured southern fighters"

What on earth are you on about here ? Whats Northern/Southern divides got to do with this. You telling me that the southeners who came to watch this in support of Glover enjoyed it JUST BECAUSE 'their man' was in it ? Are you saying that Northern fighters can't appreciate a 10 rounder such as the McDonagh/Purdy ?




"I admit it didn't have Hatton getting KOed big style but it was none the less a good boxing show."

No it wasn't a good show. Simple as ! 2 x 1sided 4 rounders, a fairly competative 6 rounder, a fairly competative 10 rounder and a one sided 12 rounder that lasted 6 ????? If this was a ****** show people would be doing their nuts in now !




"The Purdy fight was close. 6 rounder"

Which was indeed a 10 rounder :huh




"The Purdy fight was close. 6 rounder. He lost the first two rounds"

No he did not he looked very very good in the first 2 rounds and totally dominated them. The ref gave him every round so even if you can't even say he lost them 'officially'. If you seriously think that he lost the first two rounds then I suggest that your username on this site maybe a joke or by 'fightfan' you actually mean MMA fan and have no concept of the sweet science !




"that he did well early on. A few low blows and a little sloppy defense and he gets a broken nose"

Erm he wasn't really doing that well was he ? He was landing a pitter patter jab when he switched stance that O'Donnel could literally afford to take flush in the face without bothering to move his head. The commentators were acting as if something big was landing but thats what they do to big the underdog up. In reality as soon as O'Donnell threw his first combo we all knew that this would not be lasting the distance.




"I'd actually argue with a boxing expert (not you)"

Not you either by the sounds of things ? If your comments are getting ripped apart on here i'd leave your arguments with the 'experts' pal :good




"People like me who are local to the area Glover comes from also appreciated the effort he put up"

You dont have to be local to appreciate the effort he put in. I'm sure everyone on this site who watched it was willing him on a little and fully respects the ammount of bravery he shown. But do you know what 'Heart' gets you in this game when your outclassed?............. HURT !

Chinny
09-06-2009, 07:51 AM
It wasn't a good bill overall, which to be fair is unusual for Hennesey*.

It must be tough though knowing the TV deal is out of the window in a few months. Why go out of your way to put corking fights on ITV when they are about to scarper? You would think the motivation for Hennesey is to build up some blockbusters which he can sell to a new TV partner.

* but becoming a worrying trend based on the announced Froch-Direll undercard.

achillesthegreat
09-06-2009, 08:04 AM
It wasn't a good bill overall, which to be fair is unusual for Hennesey*.

It must be tough though knowing the TV deal is out of the window in a few months. Why go out of your way to put corking fights on ITV when they are about to scarper? You would think the motivation for Hennesey is to build up some blockbusters which he can sell to a new TV partner.

* but becoming a worrying trend based on the announced Froch-Direll undercard.

Agreed.

widdy
09-06-2009, 08:13 AM
i thought it was a ok card,don't think anyone got outclassed,well apart from glover,well out of his depth,but he deserved his shot.
the score cards on the omera fight were a bit out,el macchi is going to be good on the domestic circuit.
kid galahad,well another ingle puppett,and a pretty bad one as well,

and lets not bring northern /southern shite into this,just becouse northerners are better at everything:hey