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mykolakozak
09-14-2007, 08:01 AM
I did this thread a couple of months ago. But some boxers change. I took the top 15 of the 4 main belts:

Chris Arreola US
Ray Austin US
Jean Francois Bergeron CA
Taras Bidenko UA
Josue Blocus FR
Lamon Brewster US
Calvin Brock US
Chris Byrd US
Shane Cameron NZ
Ruslan Chagaev UZ
Eddie Chambers US
JD Chapman US
Alexander Dimitrenko UA
Juan Carlos Gomez CU
Donnell Holmes US
Evander Holyfield US
Sultan Ibragimov RU
Wladimir Klitschko UA
Vitaly Klitschko UA
Luan Krasniqi GE
Sergei Liakhovich Belarus
Oleg Maskaev RU
Mike Mollo US
Oliver McCall US
Kali Meehan Australia
Michael Moorer US
Fres Oquendo PR
Samuel Peter NI
Oleg Platov UA
Alexander Povetkin RU
Hasim Rahman US
John Ruiz US
Sinan Samil Sam TU
Matt Skelton UK
Tony Thompson US
David Tua NZ
Nicolay Valuev RU
Vladimir Virchis UA
DaVarryll Williamson US

USA - 16/39 - 41%
Ukraine - 6/39 - 15%
Russia - 4/39 - 10%
New Zealand - 2/39 - 5%
Germany - 1/39 - 5%
Canada - 1/39 – 2.5%
Uzbekistan - 1/39 – 2.5%
France – 1/39 – 2.5%
Cuba - 1/39 – 2.5%
Belarus - 1/39 – 2.5%
Australia - 1/39 – 2.5%
Turkey - 1/39 – 2.5%
Nigeria - 1/39 – 2.5%
United Kingdom - 1/39 – 2.5%
Puerto Rico – 1/39 – 2.5%


changes from last months: US lost James Toney, but replaced him with Chris Arreola (21-0-0, 19 KO's) and Michael Moorer (50-4-0, 39 KO's) is back; Germany lost Tino Hoffman, and Russia lost Denis Bakhtov. The list gained Puerto Rican Fres Oquendo (28-4-0, 17 KO's)

What are your views:

mykolakozak
09-14-2007, 08:03 AM
And to add to some controversy on other threads: Liakhovitch is Belarus, and Chagaev is not Russian, he is an Uzbek.

The Kurgan
09-14-2007, 08:55 AM
And to add to some controversy on other threads: Liakhovitch is Belarus,

I thought this was common knowledge. :huh

and Chagaev is not Russian, he is an Uzbek.

Again, I thought this was common knowledge. Is he a Greater Russian though? That could confuse matters; I'm not sure if Chagaev is a Russian name or not. It does sound a bit Central Asian, though. :think

mykolakozak
09-15-2007, 09:05 AM
I thought this was common knowledge. :huh



Again, I thought this was common knowledge. Is he a Greater Russian though? That could confuse matters; I'm not sure if Chagaev is a Russian name or not. It does sound a bit Central Asian, though. :think

Unfortunately its not. Americans tend to be very ignorant of many of the once USSR coutries. But one cant blame them. The communist government instead of helping the needy was spending billions to Russify all of the nations it held under an iron fist.

Relentless
09-15-2007, 09:13 AM
ruslan chagaev is the best fighter russia has produced in years.

The Kurgan
09-15-2007, 10:39 AM
Unfortunately its not. Americans tend to be very ignorant of many of the once USSR coutries. But one cant blame them. The communist government instead of helping the needy was spending billions to Russify all of the nations it held under an iron fist.

It didn't help that for all of the USSR's history it was known by most people in the West as Soviet Russia or just Russia. It wasn't until the 1980s that most people here started to find out that there were so many differetn ethnicities in the Soviet Union.

The only reason I'm (relatively) familiar with the various nationalities over there is that my maternal family went around Eastern Europe and the Western USSR in 1973, and because my maternal aunt is a Russian orthodox nun who travels over to Russia every other year.

What's Dimitrenko like? I've been hearing about him for years, but I've never seen him box.

mykolakozak
09-15-2007, 10:44 AM
What's Dimitrenko like? I've been hearing about him for years, but I've never seen him box.

He seems to robotic, but has a pretty good record. You can find some of his fights on YouTube

The Kurgan
09-15-2007, 10:51 AM
He seems to robotic, but has a pretty good record. You can find some of his fights on YouTube

Thanks. :good

Cachibatches
09-15-2007, 11:40 AM
Ukraine and Russia are going to have a real battle for primacy, espcially when Boytsov makes his way bakc up.

The odd spoilers are Solis and Haye, Cuba and UK repectively. I think Peter is wildly overrated.

America seems finished as a majo rplayer at heavy. I hope Chambers or Arreloa prove me wrong. Being from Cali, it ould b esepecially nice for me to see a big, hard punching Mexican american heavy from my state win the belt. But is he going to beat Wladdy? Povietkin? Chag? Probably not.

Chag's blood lines are part Tartar, and that is very cool. It is pretty disrespectful to lump all these guys together.

barneyrub
09-15-2007, 11:59 AM
I find it incredible how few boxers come out of New Zealand, I suppose they all go into rugby but man, they are a country of people who like a fight.

mykolakozak
09-15-2007, 09:45 PM
Boxing is losing credibility and especially in USA. What this country does, the parrots around repeat. Many foreigners look up to this country, we need to bring boxing back.