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tdw
09-07-2009, 04:28 PM
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Hopefully this may open the door for boxing

achillesthegreat
09-07-2009, 04:44 PM
This has kicked boxing in the teeth.

In the UFC, channels like FIVE know they can get the best of MMA. You can't get that with boxing because there are too many promoters out there.

UFC won't face boxing like problems until orgs like Strikeforce become serious competition. Orgs in MMA represent what promoters are in boxing.

kosaros
09-07-2009, 04:45 PM
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Hopefully this may open the door for boxing

Or maybe it has closed the door on boxing.

I hope that your right though.

rooq
09-07-2009, 05:07 PM
i see they are showing it at midnight, which means they are taking it slightly more seriosuly then the rerun FNFs broadcast at 3am.

Dan684
09-07-2009, 05:09 PM
This is another kick in the teeth for boxing in the UK . No doubt about it. Thats ESPN and channel 5 now who have decided to get UFC contracts sorted before Boxing ones

noonan
09-07-2009, 05:20 PM
i still have fingers crossed over espn tho......

slip&counter
09-07-2009, 06:24 PM
depressing

Tony Bellew
09-07-2009, 06:28 PM
It's a joke that they ain't sorted a boxing contract yet!! :fire:fire:fire

DemolitionDan
09-07-2009, 06:30 PM
This deal will be a flop. UFC hasn't been able to expand and it never will.

slip&counter
09-07-2009, 06:45 PM
how much do you think that joke journo is being payed to put gay porn ahead of the sweet science

HeavyT
09-07-2009, 06:52 PM
This deal will be a flop. UFC hasn't been able to expand and it never will.
Yeah the UFC hasn't grown AT ALL in years! :roll:

tdw
09-07-2009, 07:12 PM
Or maybe it has closed the door on boxing.

I hope that your right though.

Personally, I don't think that MMA getting on a channel hurts boxing at all, it can only help if anything. Don't think any channel is thinking shall we have UFC or boxing but what they may think is if MMA does well that boxing coverage can compliment it.

Grievesy
09-07-2009, 07:16 PM
This deal will be a flop. UFC hasn't been able to expand and it never will.

:huh

nfc90210
09-07-2009, 07:53 PM
I can see this only being a good thing for all concerned. By putting the main PPV matches on free to air terrestrial TV I can see it only helping casual fan interest.

Getting to see current top fights is something I can see grabbing the attention of some people who might otherwise not be exposed to the sport. The fights will be on a few week delay, I assume anyway, so you can hype the upcoming ESPN shows on the Channel five shows.

Some people of the people exposed to the sport, and the current top guys, on free TV will end up becoming fans. Some of those new fans will then want to see the upcoming fights live (or at least the day after they take place) and will end up subscribing to ESPN in order to do so. Live (or as live the next day) is a big draw.

It seems like a win-win for both ESPN and the UFC.

Flea Man
09-08-2009, 03:04 AM
What a kick in the nads.

achillesthegreat
09-08-2009, 04:29 AM
12 is a stupid time. It's not very watchable. I'll stay up but I've got work the next day and I don't want to be staying up until 1 for the fuck of it. 11 until 12 is much more do-able.

SouthpawSlayer
09-08-2009, 05:38 AM
its a big kick in the teeth for us alright, we get no internatinal boxing at all these days and now channel 5 who sent me an email a few months back saying they didnt plan to expand their boxing coverage due to their budget get the ufc, it shows though how easy the ufc is to these tv stations, i mean if they get a boxing contract they are not guaranteed all the big fights and then customers will be pissed off they didnt get so and so a fight, the ufc will have the dates off all their events set out 12 months in advance and you know its the best level of mma around so to a tv company the ufc is so much less complicated than a boxing deal and dana white tries to make this even less complicated and less expensive as he is trying to do his best to drown boxing even further

Bunce
09-08-2009, 06:03 AM
This is no good for boxing on C5, trust me.
However, it could give the mob at ESPN the kick in the nuts that they so badly need.
ESPN's figures are rubbish and doing a boxing deal will help - Setanta was a blockbuster in comparison.
Let's wait and see.

Adios.

scurlaruntings
09-08-2009, 06:38 AM
C5 used to show a boxing late at night. Cant remember the name of the show but it was VERY good. If the UFC has signed a deal thats good for the UFC... The interesting thing will be there time slot. If its not daytime then its not that much of a big deal. Boxing at least can be on evening television. Right now the UFC is waging an extremely aggresive marketing campaign. And of course when there name is on the end of everyones lips people by default start to take note irrespective of the product. Unless boxing promoters start working together boxing's going to loose out.

SouthpawSlayer
09-08-2009, 06:51 AM
it was espn friday night fights channel 5 were showing

scurlaruntings
09-08-2009, 06:52 AM
it was espn friday night fights channel 5 were showingI think they had another boxing magazine show before that. I remember recording it on VHS. But this was at least 10 years ago.

SouthpawSlayer
09-08-2009, 07:01 AM
kotv

scurlaruntings
09-08-2009, 07:03 AM
kotvAha i think thats what it was! With that cute blond chick. :thumbsup

SouthpawSlayer
09-08-2009, 07:13 AM
oh yeah

Mazallan
09-08-2009, 07:47 AM
Graveyard slot but hopefully it will be the first push in the channel putting the show on at a better time.

To be honest I can not see channel 5 ever wanting to broadcast live boxing from a British promoter, the cost will not attract enough viewers or ad revenue.

Espn is the sports channel so you would imagine them putting the sport on but I think Espn are just testing the water at the moment and the channel may be short lived, especialy if the Prem footy is a flop.

'Ben'
09-08-2009, 08:06 AM
After all those fucking e-mails I sent to channel 5 about boxing aswell!:twisted:

TV networks seem to some how believe that UFC is some kind of substitue for boxing?:huh wankers.

El Cepillo
09-08-2009, 08:18 AM
C5 used to show a boxing late at night. Cant remember the name of the show but it was VERY good. If the UFC has signed a deal thats good for the UFC... The interesting thing will be there time slot. If its not daytime then its not that much of a big deal. Boxing at least can be on evening television. Right now the UFC is waging an extremely aggresive marketing campaign. And of course when there name is on the end of everyones lips people by default start to take note irrespective of the product. Unless boxing promoters starting working together boxing's going to lose out.

Exactly.

achillesthegreat
09-08-2009, 08:18 AM
C5 used to show a boxing late at night. Cant remember the name of the show but it was VERY good. If the UFC has signed a deal thats good for the UFC... The interesting thing will be there time slot. If its not daytime then its not that much of a big deal. Boxing at least can be on evening television. Right now the UFC is waging an extremely aggresive marketing campaign. And of course when there name is on the end of everyones lips people by default start to take note irrespective of the product. Unless boxing promoters starting working together boxing's going to loose out.

Dare I say it, I've found myself saying UFC when I mean to say MMA. UFC is implementing classic branding. Like a Vacum Cleaner being colled a Hoover and Coke being called Cola. The name becomes known as the product!

100%. White can make a fight like Machida-Rua, Couture-Nog, Rampage-Evans at the drop of a hat but not so of top boxers.

Mazallan
09-08-2009, 09:01 AM
100%. White can make a fight like Machida-Rua, Couture-Nog, Rampage-Evans at the drop of a hat but not so of top boxers.

And even when a promoter has two of the top fighters at a weight or in divisions next to each other it is getting rare that they make the fighters fight.

SouthpawSlayer
09-08-2009, 09:14 AM
And even when a promoter has two of the top fighters at a weight or in divisions next to each other it is getting rare that they make the fighters fight.


why hurt one of your fighters revenue generating capabilities by putting him up against one of your own, sacrifice some one else's tomato can, thats the way these fookers think

scurlaruntings
09-08-2009, 10:36 AM
Dare I say it, I've found myself saying UFC when I mean to say MMA. UFC is implementing classic branding. Like a Vacum Cleaner being colled a Hoover and Coke being called Cola. The name becomes known as the product!

100%. White can make a fight like Machida-Rua, Couture-Nog, Rampage-Evans at the drop of a hat but not so of top boxers.Thats what happens when you "own" the fighters. Boxing's economic model is entirely diffrent. Its simply not that cut and dried nor economically practical for one promoter in boxing to hold all the chips. Golden Boy so far is doing great things for the sport. Have faith and most of all DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE.

What is very good to see is belts like the WBU WBF IBU IBA that have tarnished the sport just simply disappearing. The days when ****** fighters could make money of that rubbish is gone. All the big promoters in this country need to work together if they want to beat the marketing might of the UFC. As a brand its uncontested. Thats bad news for combat sports as whole and should surely stir those that are not part of the UFC to get their finger and out and make the big fights, bring boxing back to terrestrial TV and bring boxing back to the limelight as it was in the past.

sidthehat
09-08-2009, 11:42 AM
What is very good to see is belts like the WBU WBF IBU IBA that have tarnished the sport just simply disappearing. The days when ****** fighters could make money of that rubbish is gone.

Not entirely true. The IBO is the new WBU - see Little Hatton vs NDou.

scurlaruntings
09-08-2009, 12:24 PM
Not entirely true. The IBO is the new WBU - see Little Hatton vs NDou.The IBO gets a small bly from me. As you can see form my original post i never included them. For all intents and purposes it is spurious. BUT the IBO have a computerised ranking system that is sound and have had far more "name" fighters as champions such as LL Vlad Hatton etc than the WBU. That being said there belt always just happens to be vacant when a big bout is scheduled. They also have had some joke champions over the years which is indicative of the belt. But there at least a peg up from the likes of the WBU which were simply a bad bad joke with zero legitimacy.

G.A.V.
09-08-2009, 12:36 PM
Wait, are they showing re-runs or are they getting the live shows? If so, lolchannel5. They're so poor and they can afford the UFC's? Damn.

And I quite liked ESPN HD. ;-;

One Punch KO
09-08-2009, 02:30 PM
From the blog post by Gareth Davis it appears that it will be a regular one hour highlights show called UFC: Main Event, featuring recent UFC fights to promote the UFC brand and their star fighters.

The UFC are certainly getting a lot of mileage out of each event. First it is shown live on ESPN at 3am. Then ESPN replays it a few times during the week in a better timeslot. Then the best fights from the event are condensed into a one hour show on C5 for terrestrial viewers.

I'm guessing the UFC wanted to get their product on terrestrial TV in the UK and sold C5 this show pretty cheaply. Certainly cheaper than live boxing would be.

scurlaruntings
09-08-2009, 02:34 PM
From the blog post by Gareth Davis it appears that it will be a regular one hour highlights show called UFC: Main Event, featuring recent UFC fights to promote the UFC brand and their star fighters.

The UFC are certainly getting a lot of mileage out of each event. First it is shown live on ESPN at 3am. Then ESPN replays it a few times during the week in a better timeslot. Then the best fights from the event are condensed into a one hour show on C5 for terrestrial viewers.

I'm guessing the UFC wanted to get their product on terrestrial TV in the UK and sold C5 this show pretty cheaply. Certainly cheaper than live boxing would be.Coverage is all that matters. If its no on Terrestrial TV no one knows.

achillesthegreat
09-08-2009, 04:37 PM
Thats what happens when you "own" the fighters. Boxing's economic model is entirely diffrent. Its simply not that cut and dried nor economically practical for one promoter in boxing to hold all the chips. Golden Boy so far is doing great things for the sport. Have faith and most of all DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE.

What is very good to see is belts like the WBU WBF IBU IBA that have tarnished the sport just simply disappearing. The days when ****** fighters could make money of that rubbish is gone. All the big promoters in this country need to work together if they want to beat the marketing might of the UFC. As a brand its uncontested. Thats bad news for combat sports as whole and should surely stir those that are not part of the UFC to get their finger and out and make the big fights, bring boxing back to terrestrial TV and bring boxing back to the limelight as it was in the past.

Domestic boxing needs to be consolidated somehow. The only belts allowed in the country should be traditional. Ultimately, everyone will have to fight for them before stepping to the next level. I believe that can establish the foundation for boxing amongst fans.

ishy
09-08-2009, 04:51 PM
Further to the news that FIVE will broadcast UFC events from next Monday, more news today with the network revealing it is also to broadcast the reality series TUF 10, starting on September 19.

TUF 10 will be shown on FIVE’S sister channel FIVE USA, available on all cable and satellite platforms.

:-(

Savino
09-08-2009, 05:03 PM
:-(


So Channel 5 have got TUF 10 too? brilliant.

ishy
09-08-2009, 05:05 PM
So Channel 5 have got TUF 10 too? brilliant.

Five US has

scurlaruntings
09-08-2009, 06:57 PM
Five US hasThats still a big Coupe for the UFC because FiveUS is on freeview. Time for boxing to take note and start giving back to the fans that made the fighters rich.

slip&counter
09-08-2009, 07:08 PM
i'm officailly depressed

sidthehat
09-08-2009, 07:18 PM
I imagine ufc is giving this to five for free. Boxing can't afford to do this

One Punch KO
09-08-2009, 08:17 PM
i'm officailly depressed

I can tell - you didn't call MMA fighters sado-masochistic arse bandits like you normally do! :lol:

I imagine ufc is giving this to five for free. Boxing can't afford to do this

Yeah, a highlight show will cost next to nothing to make and will probably have been sold to C5 for very little, or as you say for nothing at all, as basically an advertising feature for the UFC.

They likely think that all combat sports fans are bloodthirsty, cave dwelling morons and as long as someone is getting their face smashed in the sport itself doesn’t matter. In reality, there are a lot of boxing fans (like slip&counter) who don’t give a shit about MMA and a lot of MMA fans feel the same way about the sweet science.