The H2H argument of the Jermain Taylor apologist.

[Amsterdam]

'Because A fighter beat X, X and competed with X, automatically means he is to be favoured over B fighter who has only fought Z'. This is the exact equation for Taylor's case in a H2H sense by way of Jermain Taylor apologism.

Yes HBO and the boxing media based upon lies, this is all you can feed some of the brightest fans who shamefully eat this up on a plate with sea salt.

Now how many times has this logic been proven incorrect? Just about everytime it's used in fact.

But it is special in the case of Jermain Taylor. However, the ones who commense in this exact argument are the so called 'objective, intellectual group' in their eyes and think that those who claim otherwise are coming from a direct agenda, even if those who claim otherwise are not Amsterdam, who admits to having an agenda against the disgraceful Jermain Taylor.

G'day.:good

[Amsterdam]

:lol:

[Amsterdam]

You are really obsessed with Taylor.

:lol: :lol:

[Guru_Too_You]

:lol: :lol:

Youre getting to the level of Carlito and Ambition with Margarito here.

Please say it aint so Amsterdam.

Don't ruin your credibility over Jermain Taylor, Pavlik may just end his for you.

[Amsterdam]

Youre getting to the level of Carlito and Ambition with Margarito here.

Please say it aint so Amsterdam.

Don't ruin your credibility over Jermain Taylor, Pavlik may just end his for you.

Carlito and Ambition have no ground, just ignorant trash. This is all well thought up, besides, it's fun.:D

[Pimp C]

Youre getting to the level of Carlito and Ambition with Margarito here.

Please say it aint so Amsterdam.

Don't ruin your credibility over Jermain Taylor, Pavlik may just end his for you.
I agree. I've usually agreed with Amsterdam in the past but he's way off base here. Taylor is no bum and he better pray to God that Kelly wins because it could get real ugly around here for him if he doesn't.:yep

[Amsterdam]

I agree. I've usually agreed with Amsterdam in the past but he's way off base here. Taylor is no bum and he better pray to God that Kelly wins because it could get real ugly around here for him if he doesn't.:yep

If Kelly loses then I'll be gone for 7 months total, so it evens out.

[BigReg]

Carlito and Ambition have no ground, just ignorant trash. This is all well thought up, besides, it's fun.:D

At least you're having fun with this. Only a little more than two weeks until these two guys get in the ring and let their fists do the talking. I'm leaning towards J.T

[Amsterdam]

At least you're having fun with this. Only a little more than two weeks until these two guys get in the ring and let their fists do the talking. I'm leaning towards J.T

Yes, people forget this is a forum. I really do despise Jermain Taylor, I think he's viral scum for the world of boxing and his backing and hope he fucks off and never returns after Pavlik lays him out, but people need to realise that this is half fun and games.:yep

[nervousxtian]

More and more I'm thinking that JT raped Amsterdams sister.

There can be no other reason for his obsession with the man.

Gone for 7mo's? Yeah, sure, we're not retards here, you'll just log in under your other alias.

[Amsterdam]

More and more I'm thinking that JT raped Amsterdams sister.

There can be no other reason for his obsession with the man.

Gone for 7mo's? Yeah, sure, we're not retards here, you'll just log in under your other alias.

I have no other alias.

[Relentless]

youngstown will all commit mass suicide come 29th.

[nervousxtian]

I have no other alias.

We'll see in a few weeks.

[Brickhaus]

At some point, when I have more time, I'll do H2Hs for Taylor against a few SMWs to let you know how I think the fight would go down. I already did an abbreviated version in the other thread (which was ignored), but I'm a little too busy right now to get into that level of depth yet.

Any suggestions of who you want to see me do? Someone the average American fight fan would have seen, so no Inkin, Froch, etc.

[Amsterdam]

We'll see in a few weeks.

No need, Taylor is getting leveled, then Blocky goes for six months and Illmatic goes for 1.

I don't dislike Illmatic, he's okay, but he was dumb enough to allow his Taylor apologist outlook to make a bet, though, it's not a big deal.

Removing Blocky by way of IP ban will be fantastic and I have the power to do it, as I am a moderator and he AGREED to have his IP banned for six months if Taylor loses.

That's the nice part.

[Brickhaus]

No need, Taylor is getting leveled, then Blocky goes for six months and Illmatic goes for 1.

I don't dislike Illmatic, he's okay, but he was dumb enough to allow his Taylor apologist outlook to make a bet, though, it's not a big deal.

Removing Blocky by way of IP ban will be fantastic and I have the power to do it, as I am a moderator and he AGREED to have his IP banned for six months if Taylor loses.

That's the nice part.

Just make sure it's the forum only, as he theoretically is a "writer" for the front page.

[Pimp C]

No need, Taylor is getting leveled, then Blocky goes for six months and Illmatic goes for 1.

I don't dislike Illmatic, he's okay, but he was dumb enough to allow his Taylor apologist outlook to make a bet, though, it's not a big deal.

Removing Blocky by way of IP ban will be fantastic and I have the power to do it, as I am a moderator and he AGREED to have his IP banned for six months if Taylor loses.

That's the nice part.
When did you become a mod?

[Amsterdam]

Just make sure it's the forum only, as he theoretically is a "writer" for the front page.

Yes sir, it's just the forum. Either that, or goodbye to me for 7 months.:yep

[Amsterdam]

When did you become a mod?

A few weeks ago. The Vbookie forum is my domain unless the bossman wants that to cease being the case, but he's a cool guy and supposedly it's being done correctly.

[Pimp C]

A few weeks ago. The Vbookie forum is my domain unless the bossman wants that to cease being the case, but he's a cool guy and supposedly it's being done correctly.
Congrats! Now give me 1000 extra in Vcash.:D

[Amsterdam]

Congrats! Now give me 1000 extra in Vcash.:D

You get nothing, because you subscribe to Jermain Taylor apologism. Convert to Calzaghe realisation and I may think about giving you some betting tips to get your cash way up, otherwise, run a long you Taylor apologising child.:yep

[Thor]

:blabla

[Pimp C]

You get nothing, because you subscribe to Jermain Taylor apologism. Convert to Calzaghe realisation and I may think about giving you some betting tips to get your cash way up, otherwise, run a long you Taylor apologising child.:yep
:twisted: :lol:

[jsimps]

youngstown will all commit mass suicide come 29th.

Why are you moving here?

[Brickhaus]

youngstown will all commit mass suicide come 29th.

I hear Jonestown will be committing mass suicide as well.

[Jose FM]

Yeah, I think i agree with ya. Before Taylor fought Hops in '05 he didnt have big names on his resume, with maybe the exception of Raul Marquez (who was a fringe contender anyway) but he beat Hops (however contraversial), so now we have Pavlik, and people say well Jermain has fought better fighters, yeah well Pavlik has more professional fights is a better fighter technically, and has a reach and power advantage over Taylor. Lastly Taylor has looked horrible, and hes gotten this far on skill but skill can only get you so far, after a while, fighters have to learn to mix it up and show better discipline that what Taylor has shown. I dont think Taylor will win, and his fans should realize that.

[Marnoff]

and people say well Jermain has fought better fighters, yeah well Pavlik has more professional fights

So what are you suggesting, that Pavlik has a near equal or better experience level than Taylor?

[pipe wrenched]

Yeah, I think i agree with ya. Before Taylor fought Hops in '05 he didnt have big names on his resume, with maybe the exception of Raul Marquez (who was a fringe contender anyway) but he beat Hops (however contraversial), so now we have Pavlik, and people say well Jermain has fought better fighters, yeah well Pavlik has more professional fights is a better fighter technically, and has a reach and power advantage over Taylor. Lastly Taylor has looked horrible, and hes gotten this far on skill but skill can only get you so far, after a while, fighters have to learn to mix it up and show better discipline that what Taylor has shown. I dont think Taylor will win, and his fans should realize that.

Damn, good post Jose:good

[Marnoff]

No need, Taylor is getting leveled, then Blocky goes for six months and Illmatic goes for 1.

I don't dislike Illmatic, he's okay, but he was dumb enough to allow his Taylor apologist outlook to make a bet, though, it's not a big deal.

Removing Blocky by way of IP ban will be fantastic and I have the power to do it, as I am a moderator and he AGREED to have his IP banned for six months if Taylor loses.

That's the nice part.

That's a hell of a bet.

[Jose FM]

So what are you suggesting, that Pavlik has a near equal or better experience level than Taylor?
Im suggesting that before Taylor fought bhop he had no big name on his resume, just like Pavlik now, and Taylor beat Hops anyway, due to his speed style to was to much for an older Hops, and now Pavlik is kinda like in the same situation and will win not because of the names on his resume but cause hes the better fighter.