175 lb 1st Round-Dick Tiger vs Roy Jones

[Flea Man]

Two guys who could go far in this tourney; the iron-chinned assault of Dick Tiger? Or the super-fast and elusive Roy Jones?

Sadly one of them has to go.

Can Tiger impose his will enough and Roy and keep his hands high and tucked in against the ropes, his attempt at flurrying back brushes aside by Tiger?

Or can Roy stay away, turn it on (as he could when he wanted to) and tame Tiger?

12 rounds, no reason no vote:good

[red cobra]

I think Jones would be able to outspeed and outbox Tiger if he played it fairly conservative...any excessive showboating, then Tiger would maul him and cash in on that none too reliable chin of Jones.

[teeto]

Jones for me, landing with fast shots down the pipe and the roundhouse right hand when his man opens up, it's a movement and speed thing imo.

[laxpdx]

Well, Roy would need to be in nothing less than peak condition for this one. Roy's speed of course gives him an advantage there. However, given Tiger's sheer punching power and unrelenting assault, he just way wear Jr. Jones down.

Over 12, I see Roy getting a decision. Over 15, I don't know. The championship rounds are maybe just what Mr. Tiger needs to finally catch this other "cat". If anything can slow a speed "demon", it's a hard-punching "angel" of death.

[Jorodz]

apologies to tiger but roy would be too fast for him. if dick can catch roy consistently, pin him on the ropes, he can get some work done. however, being that they are both at their peaks, roy stays away the whole fight, jabs from a distance (which he could but RARELY did) and occasionally pops tiger with left hooks and straight rights. tiger can't get much business done and only takes 2 of the 12 rounds.

[BUDW]

Tiger gets to Roy, if you think he went down hard when Tarver/Johnson caught him wait until Tiger nails him.

[Bummy Davis]

Got to go with Jones boxing Tiger from the outside for a UD

[WhataRock]

Jones would be to quick of hand and foot..Im with the consensus

Having this bout at this stage of the tourney helps him because the 12 round distance certainly suits him more.

Dick would give a tough fight...its going to take an ultra safety first performance from Roy here. But I see him frustrating Tiger down the stretch, just to quick and he knows how to use it.

Roy 8-4.

[teeto]

Well, Roy would need to be in nothing less than peak condition for this one. Roy's speed of course gives him an advantage there. However, given Tiger's sheer punching power and unrelenting assault, he just way wear Jr. Jones down.

Over 12, I see Roy getting a decision. Over 15, I don't know. The championship rounds are maybe just what Mr. Tiger needs to finally catch this other "cat". If anything can slow a speed "demon", it's a hard-punching "angel" of death.
Haha, good wording there, i liked that.

[Flea Man]

Jones' slipping, tight guard (when needed) and super-fast flurries see him through here. Tiger was past-prime against Foster IMO, so I won't go for the stoppage, Jones 10-2. Tiger wins the first two on workrate, backing Roy up and keeping him in his shell. Jones' athleticism takes over after that and he wins a wide decision.

Shame, as Tiger would've went far (and I'd give him a shout and getting to Roy late on in a 15 rounder) but over 12 Roy is proven to be elusive and hard to beat at Light-Heavy. When he wanted too he could switch an opponent off as well, as he did in the 1st Griffin fight (despite the DQ)

Tiger will always be in there, and the scorecard just not indicate just how competitive the fight is :good

[Mr Butt]

Jones' slipping, tight guard (when needed) and super-fast flurries see him through here. Tiger was past-prime against Foster IMO, so I won't go for the stoppage, Jones 10-2. Tiger wins the first two on workrate, backing Roy up and keeping him in his shell. Jones' athleticism takes over after that and he wins a wide decision.

Shame, as Tiger would've went far (and I'd give him a shout and getting to Roy late on in a 15 rounder) but over 12 Roy is proven to be elusive and hard to beat at Light-Heavy. When he wanted too he could switch an opponent off as well, as he did in the 1st Griffin fight (despite the DQ)

Tiger will always be in there, and the scorecard just not indicate just how competitive the fight is :good

agree with the above

[frankenfrank]

jones was harder better stronger faster bigger.
p4p i don't know.
but h2h at 175 , jones wins.
tiger was always below 169 , and he even didn't have to make that weight ! this is a big size advantage for jones who's also quicker.

[Flea Man]

jones was harder better stronger faster bigger.
p4p i don't know.
but h2h at 175 , jones wins.
tiger was always below 169 , and he even didn't have to make that weight ! this is a big size advantage for jones who's also quicker.

stop reading boxrec, watch some boxing:good

[frankenfrank]

stop reading boxrec, watch some boxing:good
1) i did see some of jones' fights. (johnson,johnson,tarver,toney,pazienza,mccallum,castro,sosa,malinga,hopkins)
maybe i forgot some more that i saw.
2) the more important : you could also use stop reading boxrec in comparing a peak hearns at 154 or 147 vs. a shot jones at 175.
after seeing fights like hearns stopping duran at 154 and jones stopped by tarver at 175 and by johnson at 175.
it must convince me that the 147/154 hearns would have defeated the 175 roy , right ? i bet you think so , cause you DO watch fights.

[BENNY BLANCO]

1) i did see some of jones' fights. (johnson,johnson,tarver,toney,pazienza,mccallum,castro,sosa,malinga,hopkins)
maybe i forgot some more that i saw.
2) the more important : you could also use stop reading boxrec in comparing a peak hearns at 154 or 147 vs. a shot jones at 175.
after seeing fights like hearns stopping duran at 154 and jones stopped by tarver at 175 and by johnson at 175.
it must convince me that the 147/154 hearns would have defeated the 175 roy , right ? i bet you think so , cause you DO watch fights. Frank I don't mean this as a joke but what's your first language?

[frankenfrank]

Frank I don't mean this as a joke but what's your first language?
not english really , but what is this question for ?

[red cobra]

jones was harder better stronger faster bigger.
p4p i don't know.
but h2h at 175 , jones wins.
tiger was always below 169 , and he even didn't have to make that weight ! this is a big size advantage for jones who's also quicker.
Hold it there Frankenfrank, Jones was by no means stronger than Dick Tiger...quicker, etc., but not stronger.

[PowerPuncher]

Jones wide UD, far faster, very very hard to hit clean let alone hit often enough and not only that but he's the naturally bigger man. Jones may KO Tiger if he's aggressive but he probably fights somewhat cautiously

[Flea Man]

1) i did see some of jones' fights. (johnson,johnson,tarver,toney,pazienza,mccallum,castro,sosa,malinga,hopkins)
maybe i forgot some more that i saw.
2) the more important : you could also use stop reading boxrec in comparing a peak hearns at 154 or 147 vs. a shot jones at 175.
after seeing fights like hearns stopping duran at 154 and jones stopped by tarver at 175 and by johnson at 175.
it must convince me that the 147/154 hearns would have defeated the 175 roy , right ? i bet you think so , cause you DO watch fights.

Hmmmm............I mean, you're 'comebacks' or more confusing than hurtful.

I don't even know what you're trying to argue? It is amusing though.

[la-califa]

I think Jones' speed & boxing ability will keep him away from the dangerous Tiger in this one. Jones by UD. Jones also has the power to make Tiger think twice about rushing in foolishly. Roy Jones, to stick & move for a decision victory.

[frankenfrank]

Why not a poll added ?

[OBCboxer]

Roy Jones outspeeds Tiger to a decision. Tiger wouldn't be able to land his best on the much faster Roy.

[Flea Man]

Why not a poll added ?

Because a poll would see people vote without explanation. Have you not followed the numerous tournaments going round?

For chrissakes bring back Asero:patsch

[GPater11093]

I like Roy here.

His fast hands and feet can really be used to great effect to 'outbox' Tiger and not really give him the chance to get into the fight. I really cant see Tiger winning a 12 rounder as he just dosent have the tools to effectivly counter Jones speed. Although Jones wasnt as good of Technical Boxer as Giardello he was quicker of hand and foot and this would do better against Tiger

Jones 10-2 or somewhere about

[WhataRock]

Because a poll would see people vote without explanation. Have you not followed the numerous tournaments going round?

For chrissakes bring back Asero:patsch


:lol:

Nah Frankenfrank is way more interesting.

[Flea Man]

:lol:

Nah Frankenfrank is way more interesting.

Swap 'interesting' for 'entertaining' and you're about right:lol:

[GDG]

Jones gets a clear UD here, but the actual fight was a lot tougher than the cards suggest.

Unfortunately for Tiger, Jones was at his mercurial best!!!

[Ezzard]

The weight probably suits Jones more, though Tiger was the better fighter.

I think Jones probably takes a decision.

[Boilermaker]

The weight probably suits Jones more, though Tiger was the better fighter.

I think Jones probably takes a decision.

I agree. It is hard to see Tiger winning, unless he knocks Jones out. And Tiger although in great shape, was actually a small light heavy, fighting mostly at Super middleweight (though such a division did not exist). It is hard to see Jones being knocked out by him (though it is possible). I think that Jones wins a fairly lopsided decision.