View Full Version : ‘Cro Cop’ Doesn’t Think Fedor is Afraid
boxingcar
09-09-2009, 03:07 PM
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Beebs
09-09-2009, 03:22 PM
“Definitely, the UFC offered him the best possible deal, to pay him more than Dream can offer or Strikeforce can offer, but he’s just refusing to go there,” Filipovic said. “I don’t know why. I think he should take the challenge. I don’t think he’s afraid. Maybe he wants to keep his perfect record. Maybe he thinks the UFC is too tough. Why he’s not there, I don’t know.”
Interesting.
achillesthegreat
09-09-2009, 03:49 PM
Fedor does sound very stubborn. Maybe he simply thinks he is bigger than the UFC and they should bow to him rather than vica versa.
yea seems odd..surly fedor is not scared of lestner
scurlaruntings
09-09-2009, 08:50 PM
Originally Posted by crocop
“Definitely, the UFC offered him the best possible deal, to pay him more than Dream can offer or Strikeforce can offer, but he’s just refusing to go there,” Filipovic said. “I don’t know why. I think he should take the challenge. I don’t think he’s afraid. Maybe he wants to keep his perfect record. Maybe he thinks the UFC is too tough. Why he’s not there, I don’t know.”
How on earth would CC know this?!?! :think Fedor is signed under contract to M-1 for his next 3 fights. Whatever happens his next 3 fights WILL BE under the M-1 banner. Strikeforce allowed this. The UFC did not. This sounds like a load of made up bullshit to me. Is Dana paying fighters to say this? Seems insane to think the sheer amount of fighters who have got there Oar in on this whole affair..
Goose
09-09-2009, 09:08 PM
Fedor wants to run his own UFC
curmudgeon
09-10-2009, 09:49 PM
Fedor wants to run his own UFC
If MMA is serious about staying as a mainstream sport, it sure should have more then a single promotion that is run by a foul mouthed douche.
If MMA is serious about staying as a mainstream sport, it sure should have more then a single promotion that is run by a foul mouthed douche.
Your so right, just like boxing has WBO,IBO,IBF,ABC,DEF,GHI..... that is the best way to do things and have every org try to have their fighters not fight champs of other org's.:-(
scurlaruntings
09-11-2009, 04:26 AM
Your so right, just like boxing has WBO,IBO,IBF,ABC,DEF,GHI..... that is the best way to do things and have every org try to have their fighters not fight champs of other org's.:-(At least those organisations work together. Name me ONE MMA org the UFC works with outside of Zuffa... Dana's really interested in the health and wealth of MMA's isnt he.
ufoalf
09-11-2009, 04:45 AM
At least those organisations work together. Name me ONE MMA org the UFC works with outside of Zuffa... Dana's really interested in the health and wealth of MMA's isnt he.
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This forum needs "nail on the head" emoticon.
curmudgeon
09-11-2009, 06:04 PM
Your so right, just like boxing has WBO,IBO,IBF,ABC,DEF,GHI..... that is the best way to do things and have every org try to have their fighters not fight champs of other org's.:-(
You have it mixed up. Those organizations are not promotions. They produce rankings. Promotions are outfits like Top Rank, or Don King, or Sauerland Events, or Golden Boy.
It does not have to be more then one belt. What should happen is that the contenders are not locked into a single organization and can fight each other.
You have it mixed up. Those organizations are not promotions. They produce rankings. Promotions are outfits like Top Rank, or Don King, or Sauerland Events, or Golden Boy.
It does not have to be more then one belt. What should happen is that the contenders are not locked into a single organization and can fight each other.
If all the best were in 1 promotion whether it be UFC Strikeforce or Dream we wouldn't have this problem. The UFC is close to being the regonized org with the best fighters and the fighters with a UFC belt are considered top of their weight class, of course minus Fedor and Gegard and a few others.
:deal
This forum needs "nail on the head" emoticon.
Please, anytime somebody trashes the UFC he would use one and that emoticon would be worn out.
At least those organisations work together. Name me ONE MMA org the UFC works with outside of Zuffa... Dana's really interested in the health and wealth of MMA's isnt he.
He tries to get all the best to fight the best whether you believe that or not. Fedor could fight a Japenese pro wrestler with mask and you would think that is great because he isn't in the UFC.
curmudgeon
09-11-2009, 07:37 PM
He tries to get all the best to fight the best whether you believe that or not.
I believe it not. He tries to lock the best in exclusive contracts that bring him copious amount of moneys. That is his duty as a businessman, but we could not give a flying fuck about those duties as fans.
If all the best were in 1 promotion whether it be UFC Strikeforce or Dream we wouldn't have this problem.
Since when competition is not a good thing? Since you moved to Soviet Russia?
Bullshit. Boxing works fine, there is no reason MMA should work differently.
I believe it not. He tries to lock the best in exclusive contracts that bring him copious amount of moneys. That is his duty as a businessman, but we could not give a flying fuck about those duties as fans.
Your right exclusive contracts are a bad thing so guys like Cung Le and Overeem will not defend their titles in over 2 fucking years:good
Since when competition is not a good thing? Since you moved to Soviet Russia?
Bullshit. Boxing works fine, there is no reason MMA should work differently.
Boxing works fine??? That's why Valuev could fight Holyfield because he mysteriously jumped to the top 12, that's why Maskaev fought Peter Okello and that's why when don king controlled the HW division all fighters that were under his contracts got title fights for some reason. The promoters controll the ABC's and it's coruption has turned many people away.
I still like the sport of boxing but the way all the leeches have come in and try to bleed the sport has been it's downfall. Guys like Valuev would have been exposed years ago in mma, it's too easy for a promoter to protect a fighter until he is 20 -0 in boxing.
196osh
09-11-2009, 08:06 PM
No competition is never a good thing. Period.
So you are saying having all the ABC's is a good thing? If they were all under one banner they wouldn't be able to avoid one another to take easier fights.
scurlaruntings
09-11-2009, 09:51 PM
He tries to get all the best to fight the best whether you believe that or not. Fedor could fight a Japenese pro wrestler with mask and you would think that is great because he isn't in the UFC.Why dont you come back to the "desert of the real". If your going to dissect careers CC was the person who faced a guy in a mask. Furthermore Fedor and CC are ATG's in this sport therefore your point as usual is garbage. And of course he gets the best to fight the best.. That why it took Machida so long to get a title shot? That why Lesnar got a title shot in his 2nd fight? Puhlease spare me the fortune cookie bullshit. Dana is a promoter FIRST. He does whats BEST economically for himself and for the UFC.
scurlaruntings
09-11-2009, 09:53 PM
So you are saying having all the ABC's is a good thing? If they were all under one banner they wouldn't be able to avoid one another to take easier fights.Such a simplistic rose tinted view of the world. Its certainly not the best thing but is having just one organisation with all the barganing chips a good thing? Competition is the life blood of ANY industry. Come on even a UFC employee like you can discern that surely.
curmudgeon
09-11-2009, 10:16 PM
The promoters controll the ABC's and it's coruption has turned many people away.
Baloney. For whatever issues ranking bodies may have, having multiple promoters is a good thing. Put Mr. White's dick out of your mouth and try to exercise some logical thinking.
So you are saying having all the ABC's is a good thing? If they were all under one banner they wouldn't be able to avoid one another to take easier fights.
First off - are you capable of grasping the fact that ABCs are not promoters?
Second, that was such a retarded statement, it does not seem possible that we could continue a conversation with you.
Entertain yourself by looking at girls. Analysis is not your strong suit.
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Such a simplistic rose tinted view of the world. Its certainly not the best thing but is having just one organisation with all the barganing chips a good thing? Competition is the life blood of ANY industry. Come on even a UFC employee like you can discern that surely.
You can write a poem everytime you want against the UFC but the worst thing that can happen if all the best were in the same org is that the best fight the best and not waste time taking time wasting fights.
You can bring up Lesnar all you want but he has proven a guy with as little experience as him is a dominant fighter and he is still green.
Bargaining chips?? WTF does that have to do with anything as being a fan? you act like your Atencio or Gary Shaw and every single thread on this site you manage to make it a anti UFC arguement.
You need to worry less about Dana it appears you are consumed by him.
Baloney. For whatever issues ranking bodies may have, having multiple promoters is a good thing. Put Mr. White's dick out of your mouth and try to exercise some logical thinking.
First off - are you capable of grasping the fact that ABCs are not promoters?
Second, that was such a retarded statement, it does not seem possible that we could continue a conversation with you.
Entertain yourself by looking at girls. Analysis is not your strong suit.
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You must not have been following boxing very long or your very naive or you can't read because Fedors balls are dangling in your face. Even the most hardcore boxing fans will tell you how the sport has been run you should go ask them before you make comments like you just have.
your only arguement is you hate the UFC and most of your and Scurs posts are all the same.
Kestrel
09-12-2009, 05:32 AM
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You had me staring at that gif for several minutes. Bastard. :lol:
scurlaruntings
09-12-2009, 05:52 AM
You can write a poem everytime you want against the UFC but the worst thing that can happen if all the best were in the same org is that the best fight the best and not waste time taking time wasting fights.
You can bring up Lesnar all you want but he has proven a guy with as little experience as him is a dominant fighter and he is still green.
Bargaining chips?? WTF does that have to do with anything as being a fan? you act like your Atencio or Gary Shaw and every single thread on this site you manage to make it a anti UFC arguement.
You need to worry less about Dana it appears you are consumed by him.This is a bordeline semantic argument. Firstly there were GREAT fights happening in other organisations like IFL PRIDE WFA etc so stop talking shit. How do you think the big names over in PRIDE built their careers? By fighting tin cans? Is that why the UFC bought Silva Rampage Wandy Henderson etc over because they were fighting stiffs?
As for Lesnar whatever mate. 4-1 speaks volumes end of story end of thread. The guy is a marketing dream for the UFC and nothing more. When Lesnar as amassed a solid resume with career names on like Fedor has maybe il take him seriously but NOT before.
196osh
09-12-2009, 06:58 AM
So you are saying having all the ABC's is a good thing? If they were all under one banner they wouldn't be able to avoid one another to take easier fights.
One belt is fine.
One promoter i.e. The guy who pays the fighters, is wrong. It means their is no competition.
E.g. If it was in boxing just the "World Championship" that would be better. Then you have promoters i.e. GBP, Arum, Warren, King..etc.
Having the "World Championship" and just Bob Arum is not better.
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