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GPater11093
09-09-2009, 03:32 PM
Just a thread for your guys little tips
i think Jeff told me this
before you run either do some quick reps on lightweights or some calisthetics to get your body warmed up quicker
Johnboy2007
09-09-2009, 03:41 PM
As a beginner when you first go. Keep your mouth shut and your eyes and ears open !:good
GPater11093
09-09-2009, 04:41 PM
thats a good one
Johnboy2007
09-09-2009, 04:51 PM
As a newbie i try to stick to it. Being mouthy earns just about zero respect i reckon. As for physical gym tips im sure more experienced than me will be able to help
Just a thread for your guys little tips
i think Jeff told me this
before you run either do some quick reps on lightweights or some calisthetics to get your body warmed up quicker
I usually start with shaking the limbs a little to get them loose (punching and kicking motions if that makes sense), after that some subtle rotating of all the joints. Then I jump around a little to get the blood going, rotate a little bit further, and slowly start running. The first part of my run is mostly cariocas because I tend to be stiff in the waist when I start.
GPater11093
09-09-2009, 05:09 PM
I usually start with shaking the limbs a little to get them loose (punching and kicking motions if that makes sense), after that some subtle rotating of all the joints. Then I jump around a little to get the blood going, rotate a little bit further, and slowly start running. The first part of my run is mostly cariocas because I tend to be stiff in the waist when I start.
fair enough i think Jeff said afteryou warm up you do some exercises to warm the body up quicker as with just running it takes 30 mins to warm up opimatly
Similar initial warm up to rdj - joint rotations, raise core temp, dynamic stretches then increase intensity gradually until you are good to go, for the majority of the gym work. For strength work, just ramp up to your working weights.
Always try to use your own gear - communal gear is usually in a bit of a state.
Don't try to copy other peoples styles - aim to perfect what you have to work with.
Don't kill yourself in the early going - intensity should be at or near to maximum, adjust the volume of your workout to your own ability.
Always have a couple of towels handy.
Listen to the coaches.
As mentioned earlier - ears open, mouth shut.
Always be willing to muck in and be a good club member.
scrap
09-09-2009, 06:17 PM
As a very Famous man once said. When all the worlds against you dont despair and give it your Best shot Adolf Hitler 1944 :lol:
curly
09-09-2009, 06:49 PM
Be good, and if you can't be good, be lucky ;)
turpinr
09-10-2009, 04:42 AM
if you're going for a run ,walking first is a good way to warm up gently.
our boxing club was a mile, exactly, from my house,so when i'd trotted there i was ready.
that was 30 years ago,but one thing doesn't change,you still get punched,repeatedly.
SouthpawSlayer
09-10-2009, 04:56 AM
always start with a walk , turning into a brisk walk, turning into a slow jog, progress to jog before running at your usual pace, well i always do this because i have a bad knee
turpinr
09-10-2009, 04:58 AM
always start with a walk , turning into a brisk walk, turning into a slow jog, progress to jog before running at your usual pace, well i always do this because i have a bad knee
:lol::lol:nice one
GPater11093
09-10-2009, 11:32 AM
another small tip is to have a 20 minute or so walk after eating
SouthpawSlayer
09-10-2009, 12:32 PM
eat two and a half hours before training
sixtennshots
09-11-2009, 01:35 AM
two and a half hours? i normally down a pretty solid meal about 1-1.5 hours before, i'm talking a solid feed of chicken and salad.
Why 2.5 hours before.
COULDHAVEBEEN
09-11-2009, 01:54 AM
two and a half hours? i normally down a pretty solid meal about 1-1.5 hours before, i'm talking a solid feed of chicken and salad.
Why 2.5 hours before.
It depends on what you eat and probably also on the person, but I also find that eating within 2 hours prior to training doesn't agree with me. Tried it a few times and when I got into full swing it made me feel like I was going to throw up.
taj-09
09-11-2009, 03:48 AM
always start with a walk , turning into a brisk walk, turning into a slow jog, progress to jog before running at your usual pace, well i always do this because i have a bad knee
are you an old man?
taj-09
09-11-2009, 03:51 AM
Do plenty of rounds of shadow boxing. Mix up boxing around the outside and coming forwards from the middle with lots of movement. Imagine your opponent in front of you. Very under rated exercise.
Godd for fitness, muscle indurance and technique and try moves with out copping any punishment
brown bomber
09-11-2009, 04:50 AM
always start with a walk , turning into a brisk walk, turning into a slow jog, progress to jog before running at your usual pace, well i always do this because i have a bad kneeIn otherwords mobilise your joints before exercising? :lol:
SouthpawSlayer
09-11-2009, 06:11 AM
two and a half hours? i normally down a pretty solid meal about 1-1.5 hours before, i'm talking a solid feed of chicken and salad.
Why 2.5 hours before.
the recommended safety first guidelines are 2 to 3 hours before training, i use to eat maybe 1 hr 45 min or 2 hours before training, found out if i ate 2 and a half hours before it increased performance, my digestion is possibly slower than the average person, but 1 and a half hours is too soon experiment with 2 to 3 hours, thing is the longer you eat before training the more you can eat, the more you eat the longer you can train with sufficient glycogen
are you an old man?
:lol: yeah im 25, i kinda think thats old
just got a bad knee from 6 years ago when i injured the cartillage, im very safety first when it comes to warming up fully, the only times i have injured myself were when i didnt warm up fully, last night i warmed up in the gym done a 4 km run, done a circuit of weights slow paced, then on my 2nd circuit injured my neck doing neck rolls, neck must have cooled down too muchand now im in fucking pain
In otherwords mobilise your joints before exercising? :lol:
in other words increase the production of synovial fluid and reduce viscosity of it around joints such as my left knee:rasta
taj-09
09-11-2009, 07:20 AM
yeah im 25, i kinda think thats old
just got a bad knee from 6 years ago when i injured the cartillage, im very safety first when it comes to warming up fully, the only times i have injured myself were when i didnt warm up fully, last night i warmed up in the gym done a 4 km run, done a circuit of weights slow paced, then on my 2nd circuit injured my neck doing neck rolls, neck must have cooled down too muchand now im in fucking pain
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hahahah yeah thats fair enough. Once you hurt your knee you got to take care of them after that. Especially running on concrete, its very hard and not forgiving.
SouthpawSlayer
09-11-2009, 07:34 AM
yeah im 25, i kinda think thats old
just got a bad knee from 6 years ago when i injured the cartillage, im very safety first when it comes to warming up fully, the only times i have injured myself were when i didnt warm up fully, last night i warmed up in the gym done a 4 km run, done a circuit of weights slow paced, then on my 2nd circuit injured my neck doing neck rolls, neck must have cooled down too muchand now im in fucking pain
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hahahah yeah thats fair enough. Once you hurt your knee you got to take care of them after that. Especially running on concrete, its very hard and not forgiving.
yeah i know, after a long road run the next day when i get out of bed my knee where i injured before is usually in slight pain after 5 mins of walking around its fine, my knee injury was only a tweak in the cartillage and described as a slight injury to my knee by the physio, 6 years down the line its still stubborn and will probably always be
RightHooker
09-11-2009, 08:19 AM
For the how long you should eat before training thing. There's two issues.
1. You don't want to be doing hard training when your stomach is full of fresh food, or you will get cramps etc.
2. You want to have enough time for your body to absorb the food so you have energy to train.
Each person is different and you should experiment with different types of foods at different times before training to see what works best for you.
taj-09
09-11-2009, 08:39 AM
yeah i know, after a long road run the next day when i get out of bed my knee where i injured before is usually in slight pain after 5 mins of walking around its fine, my knee injury was only a tweak in the cartillage and described as a slight injury to my knee by the physio, 6 years down the line its still stubborn and will probably always be
Maybe you should look at getting an arthroscope. That is when they tidy up the cartelage. The scar will be tiny and you may be out for a month or so but thats better then a lifetime of discomfort in your knee.
I have been lucky, have never had a knee injury but get shin splints when i over train with too much running. They can be painful sometimes and rest is the only way to fix them.
taj-09
09-11-2009, 08:41 AM
For the how long you should eat before training thing. There's two issues.
1. You don't want to be doing hard training when your stomach is full of fresh food, or you will get cramps etc.
2. You want to have enough time for your body to absorb the food so you have energy to train.
Each person is different and you should experiment with different types of foods at different times before training to see what works best for you.
everyperson is different. I sometimes have dinner 40 minutes before training. I feel a bit bloated for the first 10 minutes but then im ok after that. I find if i eat 1.5 hours before training im fine to train as hard as i need too.
SouthpawSlayer
09-11-2009, 09:18 AM
everyperson is different. I sometimes have dinner 40 minutes before training. I feel a bit bloated for the first 10 minutes but then im ok after that. I find if i eat 1.5 hours before training im fine to train as hard as i need too.
it depends what sort of training you do too, i find if im on my strenght days i can eat maybe an hour before training and feel ok, any training of high intensity like sparring or any training with the boxing club im eating 2 to 3 hours before or else i will feel shitty when training
curly
09-11-2009, 02:58 PM
two and a half hours? i normally down a pretty solid meal about 1-1.5 hours before, i'm talking a solid feed of chicken and salad.
Why 2.5 hours before.
Because when you partake in excersise, vascular shunting occurs; the divertin of blood from the gut to your muscles. I have been sick training on a full stomach a few times
Gavin
09-11-2009, 08:56 PM
Do plenty of rounds of shadow boxing. Mix up boxing around the outside and coming forwards from the middle with lots of movement. Imagine your opponent in front of you. Very under rated exercise.
Godd for fitness, muscle indurance and technique and try moves with out copping any punishment
:goodWas gonna mention that myself, I can't think of one 'Countdown to' or '24/7' type show that hasn't featured one of the Boxers involved shadowboxing alone in the ring. When the adrenalines pumping your bodies gonna react the way its been trained to, gonna be pretty hard to remember certain tactics and strategy off the top of your head so thats why its so important.:bbb
The fastest way to get your hands back to your face after throwing a punch is to make sure your arms are fully extended, causing them to 'spring' back
The more you move your legs when skipping the better.
Never be flat footed, always up on the balls of your feet.
Make it a policy to punch through anything you hit, and not at it, such as Pads, Bags etc. This will develop a good habit which will be carried into the ring and increase your strength when done on the heavy bag.
If an opponent tries to hit you with a right hand to the body, they're wide open to to a left to the head. Left to the body leaves them open to a right.
Jabbing with a vertical fist can make it pass through an opponents guard easily.
A Jab to the top of someones headguard can possibly lift their chin up into the path of a right hand.
If you successfully land a right uppercut on a crouching opponent, their head should be knocked into the path of a follow-up Left Hook.
RightHooker
09-12-2009, 09:13 AM
Some good tips Gavin.
A Jab to the top of someones headguard can possibly lift their chin up into the path of a right hand.
Another benefit is that it looks good to the judges (and the crowd, lol) when you hit someone in the forehead and his head snaps back.
Gavin
09-12-2009, 09:21 AM
Thanks man, and yep, didn't think bout that, very good scoring punch.
AVFCMagicMan
09-12-2009, 09:24 AM
Punch people in the face :good
thejokerswild
09-12-2009, 09:35 AM
Some of these are great tips!
SOme people laugh it off but I commonly do heavy bag rounds with mouth guard in. It's a lot harder to breath and a good reminder how to breath when you're gassed out.
Gavin
09-12-2009, 03:40 PM
We have to do that in our club, comes in handy because its hard to get used to at firt so better off getting used to it outside the ring rather then inside.
Also, I forgot, you can turn straight punches upside down so the knuckles land on the bottom of your opponents nose, won't knock them out but should stun them or cause their eyes to water. Useful if your too far away to land an Uppercut.
SouthpawSlayer
09-19-2009, 05:18 PM
Similar initial warm up to rdj - joint rotations, raise core temp, dynamic stretches then increase intensity gradually until you are good to go, for the majority of the gym work. For strength work, just ramp up to your working weights.
Always try to use your own gear - communal gear is usually in a bit of a state.
Don't try to copy other peoples styles - aim to perfect what you have to work with.
Don't kill yourself in the early going - intensity should be at or near to maximum, adjust the volume of your workout to your own ability.
Always have a couple of towels handy.
Listen to the coaches.
As mentioned earlier - ears open, mouth shut.
Always be willing to muck in and be a good club member.
i remember reading this when it was first posted and when i was training the young guys during the week it kept playing on my mind, i know everyone's style is different but its developed through learning little things from many different sources including people, learning in any sport comes from imitating other persons actions so completely ignoring other people is a no no, a younger kid started copying one of the older ones and it was way easier that way for him to start that way than being directed through mouth i noticed it and he pretty much copyed what the older kids style was which improved form and tecnique, i sure his won style will develop eventually if he sticks it out
or do you mean dont go in training after watching two hours of a mike tyson clip or shane mosley and go to the club imitating their style,is this what you mean
masterold
09-21-2009, 04:57 PM
something the coaches always say to me is "relax, don't tense up, let the punches flow". nearly every session I start off thinking i'm relaxed but when someone says that to me I notice the difference
nickythekid
09-24-2009, 06:18 AM
We have to do that in our club, comes in handy because its hard to get used to at firt so better off getting used to it outside the ring rather then inside.
Also, I forgot, you can turn straight punches upside down so the knuckles land on the bottom of your opponents nose, won't knock them out but should stun them or cause their eyes to water. Useful if your too far away to land an Uppercut.
screw the jab, screw the right hand?
masterold
09-24-2009, 08:39 AM
after training make sure you stay warm. put a hoodie/ jacket/ jumper and hat on before you leave the gym, especially in the winter. at football and now boxing I have always been told after training you are more susceptible to picking up coughs and colds.
brown bomber
09-24-2009, 10:28 AM
Just a thread for your guys little tips
i think Jeff told me this
before you run either do some quick reps on lightweights or some calisthetics to get your body warmed up quickerActually it was if your going to do weights/resistance exercises do them before you go for a run. By training before the run- firstly you will be fully mobilised for exercise (if you've warmed up correctly) and secondly you will be already well on your way to exhausting your Carb reserves so by running with less sugar you will utilise fat thus allowing you to drop weight more effectively. Or something like that :good
RightHooker
09-24-2009, 02:57 PM
Also, I forgot, you can turn straight punches upside down so the knuckles land on the bottom of your opponents nose, won't knock them out but should stun them or cause their eyes to water. Useful if your too far away to land an Uppercut.
Oh man, I'm gonna have to remember that one. That's pretty cheeky :lol:
GPater11093
09-25-2009, 04:40 PM
i remember reading this when it was first posted and when i was training the young guys during the week it kept playing on my mind, i know everyone's style is different but its developed through learning little things from many different sources including people, learning in any sport comes from imitating other persons actions so completely ignoring other people is a no no, a younger kid started copying one of the older ones and it was way easier that way for him to start that way than being directed through mouth i noticed it and he pretty much copyed what the older kids style was which improved form and tecnique, i sure his won style will develop eventually if he sticks it out
or do you mean dont go in training after watching two hours of a mike tyson clip or shane mosley and go to the club imitating their style,is this what you mean
I admit im constantly watching boxing guys sparring etc.. I imitate moves definitly add facets to my game. My trainer always says im a smart fighter and i think its because of it, i watch fights i see what guys do right and wrong.
Im not being cocky here but in my gym im a good ring general, i can controll some of the odler guys again i think its from wathcing guys
Actually it was if your going to do weights/resistance exercises do them before you go for a run. By training before the run- firstly you will be fully mobilised for exercise (if you've warmed up correctly) and secondly you will be already well on your way to exhausting your Carb reserves so by running with less sugar you will utilise fat thus allowing you to drop weight more effectively. Or something like that :good
thansk knew it was something like tat
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