Where Does One Punch Knockout Power Come From

[sugarsean]

Are you born with one punch knockout power if so where does it come from e.g legs, heavy hands, big hands, genetics or something else.

[kraLL]

According to Mike Tyson and Freddy Roach, punchers are born.

[janitor]

Most of it comes from delivery.

[essexboy]

I would say if its physical it comes from your shoulders but its partly a genetic thing certainly.

[curly]

Type 1 muscle fibres for explosive, anerobic strength

[Ezzard]

Lots and lots of different variables all coming together but for equal sized fighters technique is the main difference. In that sense it's like kicking a ball, swinging a golf club...

Obviously that's an over-simplification but essentially it's technique.

[KTFO]

Technique meets glass-chin.

[lefthook31]

Guys with concussive power are born with it. Its definitely enhanced by improvement of technique and delivery but the guys with serious power are born with it.

[AlFrancis]

Guys with concussive power are born with it. Its definitely enhanced by improvement of technique and delivery but the guys with serious power are born with it.

I agree.

[mughalmirza786]

Pure technique. However some people naturally have natural co-ordination to generate massive torque. Others need to be taught the technique. Heavy hands in terms of their actual weight is a significant factor also. A ball on the end of a chain will strike an object with greated force than a stick of the same length. The energy must be concentrated at the receiving end.

[junior-soprano]

you are born with it. ofcourse you can train it (to some level) and learn the technique (to some level) it's the same as with soccer (some can pass a ball over 60 meters right on th spot they want it to come) or whatever sport you got it or you don't

[Bummy Davis]

Leverage has a lot to do with the execution of a punch ( Tommy Hearns found his power in the pro's) balance but real punchers are born with POWER and sometimes looks can be deceiving....I have seen all types, thin,Fitzsimmins, Breyland,Hearns Fat, Two Ton Tony Galento, Butterbean,Sam Peter, Lean with round shoulders, Julian Jackson, Short and stocky Marciano,Langford,Walker,Tyson... perfect form Joe Louis...ETC.

[lucatoni08]

Its definitely technique which incorporates speed , co-ordination, movement of the shoulder, movement of the body, stance etc..... Of course, some people are born with great technique and this comes naturally to them, others can learn it but probably wont be as consistent a power puncher or as truly devestating as someone who was born with it.....

[Rubber Warrior]

Pure technique. However some people naturally have natural co-ordination to generate massive torque. Others need to be taught the technique. Heavy hands in terms of their actual weight is a significant factor also. A ball on the end of a chain will strike an object with greated force than a stick of the same length. The energy must be concentrated at the receiving end.

There is also a degree of "snap" at the end of that ball and chain. The ball has weight/density and the chain provides the motion that multiplys the force of the impact.

Some of the biggest and most muscular guys have nowhere near the "snap" at the end of their punches whereas a guy like Hearns, his shot could almost resemble a bullwhip at full extension when executed perfectly.

[SpanishArcher]

Punchers are born not made. Yes alot of people dont even know they can punch hard beacuse of lack of technique. But all the training, all technique in the world is not going to give a man the knockout power if he doesnt have it. 230 pounds muscular heavyweight with good technique can be feather-fisted to the point he couldnt knock out a midleweight with a single punch while a 165 pounded man can have the power to knock out heavyweights. I have seen it myself and many boxing legends have stated the same. I dont know what the puncher has to be born with it. Bone mass-strenght? Lucky combination of several different muscle group strenght? I have no idea. However one thing is clear: punchers are born, knockout artists are made.

[la-califa]

Leverage has a lot to do with the execution of a punch ( Tommy Hearns found his power in the pro's) balance but real punchers are born with POWER and sometimes looks can be deceiving....I have seen all types, thin,Fitzsimmins, Breyland,Hearns Fat, Two Ton Tony Galento, Butterbean,Sam Peter, Lean with round shoulders, Julian Jackson, Short and stocky Marciano,Langford,Walker,Tyson... perfect form Joe Louis...ETC.I'd like to say balance & leverage also. But I seen Robinson backing away nail a guy with an upercut/hook, for a one punch kayo. But then again, that's why he's the greatest fighter ever.

[Dave's Top Ten]

Born with it, plain and simple. Technique maximizes what you have.
Floyd Mayweather v Earnie Shavers. Who has the better technique? Who was pound for pound the bigger puncher?

[mcvey]

I don't know ,and in truth I dont think anyone can give you a definitive answer.
There have been precision punchers like Louis and Arguello.Wild swingers like Baer and Ketchel, composite fighters like Lanford and Moore, lanky bean poles like Foster and Saddler , tiny bangers like Wilde and Lynch, it defies logic .
But I THINK a real puncher has it in him ,it is intrinsic, it may need polishing a bit .
Hearns for example was primarily a boxer as an amateur.
One thing I do KNOW it has nothing to do with build or muscles.

[martin0792]

your are born with punching power.

[PowerPuncher]

Technique, fast twitch fibres and abnormal strength throughout all the muscles used to punch, from the legs, to the hips, to the lower back, to the shoulders, to the heavy forearms and big fists

[mcvey]

your are born with punching power.

I had it ,unfortunately I also had slow feet.:oops:

[AlFrancis]

I don't know ,and in truth I dont think anyone can give you a definitive answer.
There have been precision punchers like Louis and Arguello.Wild swingers like Baer and Ketchel, composite fighters like Lanford and Moore, lanky bean poles like Foster and Saddler , tiny bangers like Wilde and Lynch, it defies logic .
But I THINK a real puncher has it in him ,it is intrinsic, it may need polishing a bit .
Hearns for example was primarily a boxer as an amateur.
One thing I do KNOW it has nothing to do with build or muscles.

Yup, all shapes and sizes. It can be improved but it can't be taught. If it could be taught everyone could do it.

[mughalmirza786]

There is also a degree of "snap" at the end of that ball and chain. The ball has weight/density and the chain provides the motion that multiplys the force of the impact.

Some of the biggest and most muscular guys have nowhere near the "snap" at the end of their punches whereas a guy like Hearns, his shot could almost resemble a bullwhip at full extension when executed perfectly.

Basically its to do with technique. Some guys can punch good because naturally their bodies allow them to move in a co-ordinated manner which allows the 'whip' action on their punches. Remember the punch doesnt have to look textbook to have massive power, it only has to work. Naseem Hamed had freakish punch power for the weight because he was naturally explosive and had tremendously flexibility.

[Seamus]

mostly timing, the knack for catching a guy moving the wrong way and meeting his momentum with yours, think Walcott bouncing off the ropes into Suzie Q. Then again, there are very, very few true one-punch KO's.

[JimmyShimmy]

You aren't BORN with punching power - that doesn't make any sense because punching technique does not come naturally, it must be taught - so that old adage does not really hold water.

You gotta have the genetic goods, but build also plays a big part, as does delivery - punches can thump or snap, Tyson and Foreman for a big punching comparison. I think you gotta WANT to hit hard - there are those that box and are taught to hit at the target rather than through it.

Ezzard summed it up well - it really is a culmination of things because power can be put into different categories.

Saying you're BORN a puncher is a cop out. Look at Foreman and Wilde - where's the middle ground?

[AlFrancis]

You aren't BORN with punching power - that doesn't make any sense because punching technique does not come naturally, it must be taught - so that old adage does not really hold water.

You gotta have the genetic goods, but build also plays a big part, as does delivery - punches can thump or snap, Tyson and Foreman for a big punching comparison. I think you gotta WANT to hit hard - there are those that box and are taught to hit at the target rather than through it.

Ezzard summed it up well - it really is a culmination of things because power can be put into different categories.

Saying you're BORN a puncher is a cop out. Look at Foreman and Wilde - where's the middle ground?


Isn't having tne genetic goods and being born with it the same thing?

[SpanishArcher]

Well then we could call it genetics yes. But still punchers ARE born, period. Why do some have feather fists and some hit very hard while being the same size? Or why did a 185 pounded Marciano hit harder then many 230+ heavyweights out there?
Yes, some people ARE born with punching power. They come into the gym on their first day and after hitting the pads its obvious they hit hard. Of course with technique and heavy bag work that even improves. But all the technique and training wont give someone punching power who ´´doesnt have it´˙. I dont see why this an ˙˙old adage˙˙ its just the way it is. :deal

[Jack Dempsey]

Its something thats always fascinated me, how some boxers have the ability to seperate people from their senses, whilst others hardly have enough power to break an egg.

Obviously not just something as simple as size especially looking at some of the famous ko artists from the lower weights

[JimmyShimmy]

Isn't having tne genetic goods and being born with it the same thing?

Yeah, I think to an extent, but being able to punch I think is also something that needs to be mentally grasped.

I think there are those BORN with the capabilities but DON'T KNOW how to bring it into play.

I think that's why saying you're 'born with it' makes me cringe a little. A bit too basic of a description. Also, Dempsey's famous chapter in 'Championship Fighting' was "Fighters are made not born"- putting more emphasis on the technique side of things.

[Hatesrats]

mostly timing, the knack for catching a guy moving the wrong way and meeting his momentum with yours, think Walcott bouncing off the ropes into Suzie Q. Then again, there are very, very few true one-punch KO's.:good

[AlFrancis]

Born with the capability, yes. Improvement with tecnique, yes.

[JimmyShimmy]

Born with the capability, yes. Improvement with tecnique, yes.

Yeah.

I would say though as a rule that not all are born with the ability to learn the techniques to improve their punch.

[AlFrancis]

Yeah.

I would say though as a rule that not all are born with the ability to learn the techniques to improve their punch.

:good

[prime]

“There is no such thing as a natural puncher. There is a natural aptitude for punching, and that is different. Nobody is born the best. You have to practice and train to become the best.” Cus D'Amato.

[JimmyShimmy]

Looks like me and 'Cus thought alike!

[SpanishArcher]

“There is no such thing as a natural puncher. There is a natural aptitude for punching, and that is different. Nobody is born the best. You have to practice and train to become the best.” Cus D'Amato.

Well you dont have to be cus d amato to know you have to train to become the best but even here he said ˙˙natural aptitude for punching˙˙ wich I figure means genetics. If you dont have them you cannot become a great puncher. Bobby Stewart a former boxer with experience said Tyson at 13 hit him harder then anyone before that. Broke his nose with a straight left hand :lol:

[kolcade4]

your toenails

[mughalmirza786]

Well you dont have to be cus d amato to know you have to train to become the best but even here he said ˙˙natural aptitude for punching˙˙ wich I figure means genetics. If you dont have them you cannot become a great puncher. Bobby Stewart a former boxer with experience said Tyson at 13 hit him harder then anyone before that. Broke his nose with a straight left hand :lol:

Its not really genetics but more about the natural movement of generating torque in the body, some people can naturally move their body in a synced way but cannot punch properly hence the technique element.