View Full Version : Do you find hatton's style exciting
Nawfal
06-24-2007, 12:56 PM
i find his style is boring
too much holding
i mean its better than floyds, no doubt but jesus there is a lot of holding
and that is his style because its been for the last good few fights
i often hear that he is one of the most exciting fighters. i find he holds too much. cotto/pacman are the 2 most exciting fighters in boxing now
jo1hn
06-24-2007, 01:01 PM
his style is rubbish he holds to much
Imperial1
06-24-2007, 01:01 PM
When he lets his hands go its a thing of beauty when he holds it makes me ill ..
itliangladiator
06-24-2007, 01:03 PM
The clinching does get rather boring...but I find his style somewhat exciting. What I like about Hatton's holding style is that he fights out of it. He doesnt just hold his opponent to catch a breather. He throws a lot of punches out of the clinches so I dont think its that bad.
jyuza
06-24-2007, 01:04 PM
Not at all. He sure is a ferocious pressure fighter but he just grab to much and it kills his opponent technique.
Morales, Barrera and Marquez or the "mexicans". No clinch, no low blows. Only pure boxing skills with intelligence and experience.
Hatton should never wear that sombrero again for Mexican sake. What a shame.
BobDigi5060
06-24-2007, 01:06 PM
Holding and manuevering his opponents I don't really care for but for the most part its easier to watch than Floyd.
bill poster
06-24-2007, 01:09 PM
Surprised when the ref docked Castillo a point- was it me or was the ref too close to the action too
Lar Janus
06-24-2007, 01:22 PM
I like Ricky Hatton, think he's a stand-up guy, trains his ass off, shows much love to his fans, is pretty clever, and respectful. That said, its hard to overlook his grappling style of boxing (in his two biggest fights, KT & JLC) and the FACT that he's gotten favorable treatment from the refs in BOTH of the above-mentioned fights.
I was VERY disappointed w/last night's fight! JLC looked a little wobbly, the first couple of rounds, but when he DOES start working his way into the fight, in the third, Joe "I'm fair but firm" [BULLSHIT!] Cortez--after having said in front of EVERYONE that Hatton's shorts were high--starts warning JLC for phantom low blows! There were shades of Manchester and KT, when Hatton looked over at Cortez, after getting hit with a shot clearly NOT low, as if to say, "Hey, mate, you're not gonna let him hit me with body shots, are you?" . Then, at the beginning of the fourth he IMMEDIATELY deducts a point for a shot that wasn't even close to being low! Hatton, meanwhile, contrary to BOXING rules, uses non-stop grappling to maul JLC--with ZERO warnings from Joe "I'm a tool" Cortez. So, we have a fight where one fighter (JLC) is not allowed to throw body-shots, while the other can hold/hit, at will.
I think JLC knew the 'fix' was in, and that he was gonna get DQ'd, if he tried to work the body--which HAD to be a big part of his game plan. I believe Hatton landed a great body shot, but that JLC just stayed down. I hate to see that, and even SAY it, but the bias was unmistakable. Boxing is getting to be as bad as pro-wrestling. It's getting harder and harder to support it, and I've lost a TON of respect (like it HAD much left, anyways!) for the sport with shit like PBF/DLH, Spinks/JT, and, now, Hatton/JLC.
For the Hatton fans: again, don't get me wrong, nothing against Hatton--he's just maximizing the advantages he's being given--he's a class act, outside the ring, and does what he has to, to win, inside. Its just a side effect of the crookedness of the sanctioning bodies, networks, promoters, judges, and referees--that have become the norm in boxing.
pipe wrenched
06-24-2007, 01:30 PM
:hand No!!
brooklyn1550
06-24-2007, 01:31 PM
When he lets his hands go, but for the most part, he's wrestling which is very frusturating
Words
06-24-2007, 01:32 PM
Its not really proper clinching though coz Hatton throws loads of punches on the inside. The only time I've ever seen him clinch or hold out of desperation is against Urango, usually he likes to get in close, swarm his opponents and throw lots of body shots. He likes to bully people and push them about, he doesnt hold in the convential sense, so its not bad to watch. He's more exciting when he stands and trades. But thats just his style, its got him right to the very top of the sport.
Boom_Boom
06-24-2007, 01:33 PM
its boring but then again Ricky doesnt know anything about defense so he holds, its understandable
mightyd40
06-24-2007, 01:36 PM
When he lets his hands go its a thing of beauty when he holds it makes me ill ..
well......his style definatly works but i dont think i would ever go as far as saying its a thing of beauty
Bazooka
06-24-2007, 01:36 PM
if Ruiz caught all kinds of hell for fighting this way why shouldnt Hatton? I think that is a fair question
Bazooka
06-24-2007, 01:38 PM
if Ruiz caught all kinds of hell fighting this way then why shouldnt Ricky Hatton? I mean lets face it HBO and fans seem to have some biased here regarding the style, as if its okay for the Brit to do it but the Puerto Rican isnt fighting like a latino so lets bash him for it.
Anyhow one good thing about that style is if he does fight Floyd how is Floyd going to run? so in a sense that is the style your going to need to beat Floyd, you must grab!
Bazooka
06-24-2007, 01:39 PM
Hatton is active when he clinch, Ruiz not
I mean He throw a lot of punch
PLease he throws one shot then clinches the same way Ruiz does in fact Ruiz throws more shots than Ricky does before he clinches sometimes Ruiz will throw a double jab.
chliJs
06-24-2007, 01:43 PM
I like Ricky Hatton, think he's a stand-up guy, trains his ass off, shows much love to his fans, is pretty clever, and respectful. That said, its hard to overlook his grappling style of boxing (in his two biggest fights, KT & JLC) and the FACT that he's gotten favorable treatment from the refs in BOTH of the above-mentioned fights.
I was VERY disappointed w/last night's fight! JLC looked a little wobbly, the first couple of rounds, but when he DOES start working his way into the fight, in the third, Joe "I'm fair but firm" [BULLSHIT!] Cortez--after having said in front of EVERYONE that Hatton's shorts were high--starts warning JLC for phantom low blows! There were shades of Manchester and KT, when Hatton looked over at Cortez, after getting hit with a shot clearly NOT low, as if to say, "Hey, mate, you're not gonna let him hit me with body shots, are you?" . Then, at the beginning of the fourth he IMMEDIATELY deducts a point for a shot that wasn't even close to being low! Hatton, meanwhile, contrary to BOXING rules, uses non-stop grappling to maul JLC--with ZERO warnings from Joe "I'm a tool" Cortez. So, we have a fight where one fighter (JLC) is not allowed to throw body-shots, while the other can hold/hit, at will.
I think JLC knew the 'fix' was in, and that he was gonna get DQ'd, if he tried to work the body--which HAD to be a big part of his game plan. I believe Hatton landed a great body shot, but that JLC just stayed down. I hate to see that, and even SAY it, but the bias was unmistakable. Boxing is getting to be as bad as pro-wrestling. It's getting harder and harder to support it, and I've lost a TON of respect (like it HAD much left, anyways!) for the sport with shit like PBF/DLH, Spinks/JT, and, now, Hatton/JLC.
For the Hatton fans: again, don't get me wrong, nothing against Hatton--he's just maximizing the advantages he's being given--he's a class act, outside the ring, and does what he has to, to win, inside. Its just a side effect of the crookedness of the sanctioning bodies, networks, promoters, judges, and referees--that have become the norm in boxing.
i'm not even a true hatton fan, but you're overreacting. it's just the way things go, and to assume castillo quit because he would have gotten disqualified anyway is very far-fetched. arguably he went down because he saw no perspective anyway, because hatton was in domination, but this is a whole different story.
also, do you want to call pbf/dlh a robbery or what? in both fights, pbf/dlh and hatton/jlc, the better man won. what's your problem? because they don't apply to you stylewise? how do you connect that to pro-wrestling?
luckily i haven't watched jt/spinks, so maybe you're right in that case. but the rest is pure nonsense.
we have seen a lot of good fights this year and there was not a single disappointment, except for maybe this jlc/hatton-fight, so why are you pessimistic?
BoppaZoo
06-24-2007, 01:44 PM
sorry if i wanted to watch wrestling id watch Stone Cold instead of Ricky Hatton.
Tell me this though when is Hatton going to at least get warned in the ring for hitting low and clinching to much.
Is it just me or was it another Clinch then Punch on the break sort of fight or was it just my eyes playing tricks again.
Like ive said about both PBF and Hatton' styles the greats like Louis,Marciano and Robinson must be rolling over in the graves and thinking is this what our sport has become.
i recall James Braddock getting his boxing license revoked because of the same sort of fighting style as Ricky Hatton yet his fans think he is awesome.
Im seriously considering becoming a MMA fan now because even though they wrestle at least there not affraid to let there hands go in the ring.
im fed up this is nearly the last straw Pacman is the only man worthy of my PPV money now and any other Aussie.
Lampley
06-24-2007, 03:26 PM
I can't stand when he uses it defensively (Urango) or physically prevents the other guy from throwing, but mostly I think he uses it to set up offense. Overall, though, I don't like it. If he did it occasionally, fine, but it kills the athleticism of the contest to allow constant wrestling like that.
Shotgun
06-24-2007, 04:47 PM
Every Hatton fight I've seen aside from Urango and Collazo has been entertaining. Even the first half of Urango and moments of Collazo
were decent. Hatton's fights can get ugly at times but even with the mauling he throws and lands a lot of punches, when he's on his game he is fun to watch because he systematically grinds his opponent into submission and he inflicts a lot of damage in most cases. The only fight where he held excessively really was the second half of the Urango fight that he was clearly not in the best condition and apparently was sick, he still won easily. Against Collazo and Castillo, his opponents were holding just as much as he was, and unlike say Ruiz, Hatton continues to punch and fight even when they are tied up on the inside
Shotgun
06-24-2007, 04:55 PM
if Ruiz caught all kinds of hell fighting this way then why shouldnt Ricky Hatton? I mean lets face it HBO and fans seem to have some biased here regarding the style, as if its okay for the Brit to do it but the Puerto Rican isnt fighting like a latino so lets bash him for it.
Anyhow one good thing about that style is if he does fight Floyd how is Floyd going to run? so in a sense that is the style your going to need to beat Floyd, you must grab!
Hatton made a hall of famer/top 5 P4P, long reigning, undisputed champ's corner throw in the towel. He KO'd a rugged, proven champion in 4 rounds who had never been down before on a perfect body shot. Ruiz never did anything comparable. Ruiz's punches don't inflict damage like Hatton's do. And Hatton throws a lot more punches than Ruiz, last night he threw well over 200 punches in under 4 rounds of action, Ruiz is lucky to throw that many punches through 8 or 9 rounds
Beebs
06-24-2007, 04:57 PM
if Ruiz caught all kinds of hell for fighting this way why shouldnt Hatton? I think that is a fair question
Ruiz fought Defensively and held so as not to be hit.
Hatton fights to maul you and clinches offensively so he can work your body and wear you down.
Thats why.
Lacyace
06-24-2007, 04:59 PM
Hatton is no more or less exciting than John Ruiz.
Shotgun
06-24-2007, 05:00 PM
Hatton is no more or less exciting than John Ruiz.
:nut
Aside from the Tua fight, care to point out an Ruiz fight as entertaining as Hatton-Tszyu, Hatton-Phillips, Hatton-Tackie, Hatton-Stewart, Hatton-Castillo, etc
Bazooka
06-24-2007, 05:02 PM
Ruiz never did anything comparable. Ruiz's punches don't inflict damage like Hatton's do.
Then explain Ruiz knocking out Oquendo, Putting Evander on Queer street, nearly knocking out a in shape younger version of Kirk Johnson? The styles are the same the only difference here is HBO is trying to make a name for Hatton which is why he is getting a pass on their networks.
Shotgun
06-24-2007, 05:06 PM
Then explain Ruiz knocking out Oquendo, Putting Evander on Queer street, nearly knocking out a in shape younger version of Kirk Johnson? The styles are the same the only difference here is HBO is trying to make a name for Hatton which is why he is getting a pass on their networks.
Really? Oquendo has a suspect chin and is a fringe conteder/journeyman at best and the stoppage was premature. Kirk Johnson was screwed over in that fight, and his chin is not especially good, Vitali destroyed him with ease. Holyfield's the one clean knockdown, it was a nice temple shot, too bad Ruiz got legitimately KO'd on a bodyshot that was ruled a low blow prior to that
If you're honestly comparing a premature stoppage and a DQ win against pair of gatekeeper/fringe contenders to making a hall of famer's team throw in the towel and legitimately KOing a tough as nails, proven champion who had never even been knocked down before, I don't really know what to say. Oquendo and Johnson are so far below the comparable level of Tszyu and Castillo that it's not really a comparison
Lacyace
06-24-2007, 05:07 PM
:nut
Aside from the Tua fight, care to point out an Ruiz fight as entertaining as Hatton-Tszyu, Hatton-Phillips, Hatton-Tackie, Hatton-Stewart, Hatton-Castillo, etc
None of those fights were entertaining. The worst of the lot was that Hatton-Tszyu foulfest.
Shotgun
06-24-2007, 05:09 PM
None of those fights were entertaining. The worst of the lot was that Hatton-Tszyu foulfest.
Hatton-Phillips wasn't entertaining? No need to further the debate, I don't have any more to say
psychopath
06-24-2007, 05:12 PM
Do you find hatton's style exciting
Are you serious??? :D
Nah definitely not. :-( People always knows what's going to happen everytime he fights . . . he'll throw 1-2-3 punches while coming in and then hold and clip the arm of his opponent.
That's just about it on his fighting style.
Bazooka
06-24-2007, 05:13 PM
Really? Oquendo has a suspect chin and is a fringe conteder/journeyman at best and the stoppage was premature. Kirk Johnson was screwed over in that fight, and his chin is not especially good, Vitali destroyed him with ease. Holyfield's the one clean knockdown, it was a nice temple shot, too bad Ruiz got legitimately KO'd on a bodyshot that was ruled a low blow prior to that
You are talking to the biggest Holyfield fan there could be and let me tell you Ruiz won that second fight, you cant really say that it was the body shot that dropped him, there was a double left hook one hit the body the other was low, I am calling it the way it was simple as that he beat Evander fair and square.
Oquendo has a suspect chin? Journeyman okay but many felt he beat Byrd, on with Kirk Johnson of course Vitali was going to get rid of him quick Kirk wasnt in shape for that fight and this was years after Ruiz beat him, and no it was not a pre mature stoppage Johnson was clearly hitting low, and was dropped by Ruiz twice from what I recall , beleive i still have these fights on tape so its not like I dont watch them ever because I do.
and the Castillo that fought Hatton last night is not the same guy we all know, proof is in what you saw, your going to tell me that a man who went 10 of the hardest rounds ever in the sport just got caught with one good shot? the point is that fight with Corrales took something out of him and the proof is in the fights he has had since, Castillo hasnt looked the same.
Now on to Rickys holding, was it too much holding? I mean when the ref clearly warns you in the first round to me that is a indicator that he is holding too much.
Lacyace
06-24-2007, 05:15 PM
Hatton-Phillips wasn't entertaining?
Only to Ricky Hatton fans.
Pimp C
06-24-2007, 05:40 PM
Hatton's style is one of the worst in boxing I can't believe he has the nerve to say his fights are action packed. All he does is fall in and clinch, wrestle and punch.
David UK
06-24-2007, 05:48 PM
Hatton's style is one of the worst in boxing I can't believe he has the nerve to say his fights are action packed. All he does is fall in and clinch, wrestle and punch.
..............and knock people out!! (You forgot that bit)
psychopath
06-24-2007, 05:51 PM
..............and knock people out!! (You forgot that bit)
Yeah yeah he knock out opponents and win fights . . . but does that necessarily mean he has an exciting fighting style? :huh
The question is "if his fighting style is exciting". :D :lol:
Shotgun
06-24-2007, 05:52 PM
Hatton's style is one of the worst in boxing I can't believe he has the nerve to say his fights are action packed. All he does is fall in and clinch, wrestle and punch.
He managed throw 200 plus punches in under 4 rounds, most of them were hard punches. He knocked his opponent out with a vicious body punch. That would constitute action
But you thought that Mayweather-Baldomir was a good fight, so I digress
Asterion
06-24-2007, 05:58 PM
No. I prefer Mayweather's style.
oblate
06-24-2007, 09:45 PM
i find his style is boring
too much holding
i mean its better than floyds, no doubt but jesus there is a lot of holding
and that is his style because its been for the last good few fights
i often hear that he is one of the most exciting fighters. i find he holds too much. cotto/pacman are the 2 most exciting fighters in boxing now
i also find him boring.
PacDbest
06-24-2007, 10:05 PM
I dont like Huggers like Hatton!!! Find it boring will not Pay any of his PPV in the future(unless he's fighting Pac).
Executioner
06-24-2007, 10:11 PM
I dont like Huggers like Hatton!!! Find it boring will not Pay any of his PPV in the future(unless he's fighting Pac).
Why oh why would you pay to see your boy Pacquiao get sodomized by Hatton?
Thread Stealer
06-25-2007, 11:34 AM
Not anymore.
PH|LLA
06-25-2007, 11:38 AM
I appreciate Hatton's style as much as any other style. What's important to me is not the style but the quality of execution.
Nawfal
06-25-2007, 11:47 AM
I appreciate Hatton's style as much as any other style. What's important to me is not the style but the quality of execution.
so youre a fan of ruiz? hes the master of that plan
Motor City Sam
06-25-2007, 11:49 AM
I'm not a Hatton fan, but I give him credit for his wins. His style is boring to me, however.
jazzboy
06-25-2007, 11:53 AM
His style is verdy boring but i dont think pbf is boring. The holding gets old quickly
PH|LLA
06-25-2007, 12:02 PM
so youre a fan of ruiz? hes the master of that plan
Master of that plan?? Have you seen Ruiz's record?
Ruiz sucks, Hatton does 100 things in there that Ruiz can't do.
Words
06-25-2007, 12:09 PM
Ricky throws ten times as many punches as ruiz, boxing fans have such short memories. 200+ punches in four rounds, Ruiz would barely throw that many in an entire fight! Get a grip people please!!!
BOOKA
06-25-2007, 12:10 PM
If Hatton does nothing but hold and clinhc over 12 rounds that must mean he couldnt have thrown anywhere near the amount of punches PBF did against DLH ? Right ? Right ?
Caper
06-25-2007, 12:30 PM
I don't care much for his style but it is effective (the man's undefeated on paper) I think Collazo was shafted, especially since he was the champ, there's no way Ricky took the belt from him. But that's boxing for ya.....hey Ricky is what he is a rugged champ and proud of it let him enjoy his success. Not much else I can say about him, I'm a fan of his passion for the sport though there's noting sweet or too entertaining about it. :p Ricky's solid in my book he just won't beat Cotto or Mayweather.
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