View Full Version : Are you in favor of UFC/WEC merger?
Vitor Belfort
09-12-2009, 01:23 AM
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I was watching MMA insider and heard them talking about a UFC-WEC merger. I actually like this idea. I would like to see faber-brown-torres and other wec stars compete against the ufc talent. I hope Faber goes up in weight and fight at lightweight. There are so many fights i want to see him at 155.
OuterDrake
09-12-2009, 01:35 AM
no. i like watching free$ title fights often.
Vitor Belfort
09-12-2009, 01:41 AM
no. i like watching free$ title fights often.
true...sometimes ufc do put some title shot in spike tv. henderson vs rampage ufc 75 was free on spike. hope they can do that more often.
Dave_j1985
09-12-2009, 02:59 AM
I'm saying yes simply because we don't get WEC in Australia.
Vitor Belfort
09-12-2009, 03:03 AM
I'm saying yes simply because we don't get WEC in Australia.
yea i barely get to watch wec fights here too. It's usually on vs network when i get to see it. I would like to see more of them on spike tv.
codeman99998
09-12-2009, 03:21 AM
I like the idea that we get to see premier fighters in the 135 and 145 division fight for no charge. I think the two orgs should become more closely linked. I think any great LW fighter (or FW or BW that can move up to LW, for that matter) should have a chance at the UFC LW division, but I don't think the UFC should necessarily adopt a FW or BW division.
No because the UFC is gone be flooded with lower weight fighters who will take away air time from the higher weight guys. It's just gone be a big mess and IMO it's unnecessary.
achillesthegreat
09-12-2009, 07:31 AM
Another org adding even more weight classes. I see boxing like problems here.
Ubersteve
09-12-2009, 08:50 AM
The lower weight fighters are great though, I'd rather watch Brown and Faber than Chris Leben.
IntentionalButt
09-12-2009, 11:54 AM
I like the WEC much more than UFC these days. Unless Machida or GSP is fighting I don't really care about the higher weights.
Goose
09-12-2009, 12:21 PM
No because the UFC is gone be flooded with lower weight fighters who will take away air time from the higher weight guys. It's just gone be a big mess and IMO it's unnecessary.
and? lower weight guys are less entertaining?
solidchin
09-12-2009, 12:25 PM
and? lower weight guys are less entertaining?
for me lower weight guys put on some hell of a fight they seem to be the most entertaining depending on who is fighting though
Vengeance
09-12-2009, 12:32 PM
I'm all for the merge. Fucking Directv won't resign with Versus. I can't even watch the WEC events anymore. :twisted:
IntentionalButt
09-12-2009, 12:36 PM
and? lower weight guys are less entertaining?
More. Way more. A WEC card would suffer if you mixed in bigger guys, who with the exception of the tippety top of the pyramid are on average far less skilled and less entertaining.
achillesthegreat
09-12-2009, 02:01 PM
Get rid of the WEC and increase the talent pool at 155. I'm not happy with them adding 125, 135 and 145 to the roster.
MAYBE add 135 as a final division but that is it.
jimmie
09-12-2009, 02:03 PM
I wasnt before but now I am because Versus has been took of Directv and im missing it already. Merge together and I can see them agian.
Beebs
09-12-2009, 06:01 PM
Another org adding even more weight classes. I see boxing like problems here.
Not really, the complaint about boxing is the splitting of classes; a six pound difference between super-welter and middleweight is absurd for one.
Vitor Belfort
09-13-2009, 01:27 AM
I wasnt before but now I am because Versus has been took of Directv and im missing it already. Merge together and I can see them agian.
yea and also the talented figters from WEC can get more recognition if they come to ufc.
IntentionalButt
09-13-2009, 02:34 AM
Get rid of the WEC and increase the talent pool at 155. I'm not happy with them adding 125, 135 and 145 to the roster.
MAYBE add 135 as a final division but that is it.
Fuck all that! :twisted:
Add up through middleweight to WEC and scrap UFC, how about that? :deal
and? lower weight guys are less entertaining?
I personally can't say, but there is obviously a reason why they've been the last on the weight class priority list, it was the same in Pride and other organizations. To the casual fan they probably are less exciting because they are smaller than the average person, so theres less intrigue. Bottom line though, there are only so many fighters the UFC can showcase because of limited air time. Each fighter needs multiple showings inorder to build a fan base and to make them tune in as they move up the ranks. An overload of fighters is just hard for the fans to keep track of.
Vitor Belfort
09-13-2009, 02:58 AM
I personally can't say, but there is obviously a reason why they've been the last on the weight class priority list, it was the same in Pride and other organizations. To the casual fan they probably are less exciting because they are smaller than the average person, so theres less intrigue. Bottom line though, there are only so many fighters the UFC can showcase because of limited air time. Each fighter needs multiple showings inorder to build a fan base and to make them tune in as they move up the ranks. An overload of fighters is just hard for the fans to keep track of.
True ufc needs to show more free fights on spike tv instead of PPV fights every month. Some of the ppv fights they show are not even worth it. They need to show more big fights on free tv so other fighters can get some tv time.
IntentionalButt
09-13-2009, 02:58 PM
I personally can't say, but there is obviously a reason why they've been the last on the weight class priority list, it was the same in Pride and other organizations. To the casual fan they probably are less exciting because they are smaller than the average person, so theres less intrigue. Bottom line though, there are only so many fighters the UFC can showcase because of limited air time. Each fighter needs multiple showings inorder to build a fan base and to make them tune in as they move up the ranks. An overload of fighters is just hard for the fans to keep track of.
Fuck the casual fan! Fuck them in their casual ass! :ibutt
achillesthegreat
09-13-2009, 04:08 PM
Not really, the complaint about boxing is the splitting of classes; a six pound difference between super-welter and middleweight is absurd for one.
170, 185, 205 and HW. Then they brought 155 back. Add 125, 135 and 145 and that increases it to 8. The introduction of 125 to 155 would see 4 close weight classes which begins to bring about issues. The more weight classes, the more the mainstream fan struggles to keep up to date, the more they get disinterested with it.
155 to heavyweight is easy for all the current fans I know of. Add another three along more orgs getting bigger and boxing like problems will begin to manifest.
Vanboxingfan
09-13-2009, 04:32 PM
Just because you merge the two organizations, doesn't mean you're stuck with the current weight classes.
I'd probably get ride of the 125lb class and maybe have a 140lb class instead of 135 and 145. So that's a 15lb spread between 140, 155 and another 15lb spread between 155 and 170, and another 15lb spread between 170 and 185.
Depending who's watching the sport, ie mexican's who tend to be smaller, maybe a 125lb category might work, depending on the quality of the fighters and the audience demand for this.
Makes sense to me.
IntentionalButt
09-13-2009, 05:42 PM
170, 185, 205 and HW. Then they brought 155 back. Add 125, 135 and 145 and that increases it to 8. The introduction of 125 to 155 would see 4 close weight classes which begins to bring about issues. The more weight classes, the more the mainstream fan struggles to keep up to date, the more they get disinterested with it.
155 to heavyweight is easy for all the current fans I know of. Add another three along more orgs getting bigger and boxing like problems will begin to manifest.
But different orgs have had different definitions of the existing weight classes from the beginning. MMA has a long way to go toward standardization. UFC wisely foregoing a trademark on the octagonal cage was probably the most significant step to date, but there's a long climb to go.
Bad as I hate Dana......as a MMA fan, I want to see the best fights possible.
The UFC does that.
sugarngold
09-13-2009, 10:53 PM
I don't know. I like the WEC - but it's really just the lower divisions of the UFC. May as well leave it as is.
achillesthegreat
09-14-2009, 03:23 AM
But different orgs have had different definitions of the existing weight classes from the beginning. MMA has a long way to go toward standardization. UFC wisely foregoing a trademark on the octagonal cage was probably the most significant step to date, but there's a long climb to go.
This is true but I'm talking mainstream problems and UFC is the face of MMA. The hardcore fans just learn everything, bitch about it but still love the game. Just like hardcore fans in boxing. The mainstream fans are a different issue though.
Vitor Belfort
09-14-2009, 03:35 AM
I don't know. I like the WEC - but it's really just the lower divisions of the UFC. May as well leave it as is.
yea i like the 5 division ufc has right now. i still like the merger to happen but just take out some of the lower weight class. I really only like the featherweight class in wec. The lower weight class should just go. Featherweigth to heavyweight would be just fine.
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