Poll- Fury Or McDermott?

[Cachibatches]

Dear British fans,

A yank here who had not seen it yet. Seems most are saying McDermott won. Just want to get a poll going. Thanks for your imput.

[9Ball]

The referee is a joke he is clearly not capable of making the right decision in a fight where McDermott was quicker to the punch, had much better success with the jab and landed far more power punches. Fury got beat fair and square.
I would say McDermott won by at least 4 rounds and that is being generous to Fury.

Fucking joke result.

[Mike_S]

Well worth watching, Dermott's a good fighter, worst scoring I've seen in Britain since I don't know when.

[beecho1988]

I had Mcdermott winning by four rounds, its a fucking joke that the ref could give it to fury by six rounds, I cant wait till someone KOs Fury

[billyk]

I thought Mcdermott won 7 - 3 and I thought he won some of the rounds pretty clearly. Rounds 3, 4,7 and 8 I dont see any argument for Fury getting them. I also gave Mcdermott 1, 5 & 9 but felt they were closer. The 98-92 (8 rounds to 2,) score for Fury is shocking.

[Mazallan]

Robbed in 3 title fights in a row.

[Beeston Brawler]

I felt that it was a draw.

The problems were threefold:

1. Fury's rounds were pretty close, McDermott's were pretty clear.

2. Fury's workrate was generally pretty high, the punchstats show that...... McDermott did a lot of holding and ineffective stuff.

3. The commentary - Adam Smith and Jim Watt were an absolute disgrace, everything McDermott did was amazing, Fury was ineffective throughout.

The most annoying thing was Watt saying that Fury's resume to date was full of bums - his 7 fight resume pisses all over any other British fighter since Lennox Lewis!

[dan-b]

McDermott won.

[D-MAC]

I had it to McD by 3 or 4 rounds.

[Betty Swollocks]

Big John beat his arse and got robbed. It's a disgrace. Not the first time he's been jobbed by the ref/judges.

[stork]

i'd have had John by 6 rounds to 4.
IMO Mcdermott won 5 rounds clearly so it should have been a draw at worst for him. Only the 6th and the 9th were clear rounds for fury so scores of between 5-5 or 6-4, 7-3 to mcdermott would have been acceptable but 8-2 for fury is a complete joke. He just wasn't the better fighter in there and was bullied about the ring.

[dan-b]

There should be an investigation into this, where the ref has to justify how he scored 8 rounds to Fury.

[mike464]

What a fucking joke. I was in shock when he lifted Fury's hand. But 8 rounds to 2? He'd clearly already made his mind up about who was going to win.

How often do we see terrible performances by British refs and then see them reffing fights again. He needs to find another job.

[Mr Butt]

fury got a gift it stinks

[slip&counter]

What a fucking joke. I was in shock when he lifted Fury's hand. But 8 rounds to 2? He'd clearly already made his mind up about who was going to win.

How often do we see terrible performances by British refs and then see them reffing fights again. He needs to find another job.

the refereeing wasn't the problem, he did a good job refing the fight but you can't ask one guy to ref and score the system is to blame just as much

[luckylefty]

Well,fury got the decision and thats what matters at this time.Obviously there will be a rematch.

[Flea Man]

6-4 McDermott IMO

[DAVEMAKER]

watch the fight with the sound off, completly deifferent fight



close fight, i had fury winning by a single point

[Geiger]

I had McDermott winning by a few points. Bit risky how he turned his back on Fury towards the end, though I guess with the ref knowing the score he felt no need to make an issue of it.

[antcull]

I had it 96-94 to big John and that was the kindest I could be on Fury tbh.

Cant imagine what John must be feeling now.

Look forward to the rematch and I will be supporting Big John all the way!

[Flea Man]

What was with McDermott turning his back on Fury a few times in the final round???

[GPater11093]

What was with McDermott turning his back on Fury a few times in the final round???

think it was balance issues more than anything

no way Big John lost.

Furys a prick, a complete tosser.

[kerrminator]

This wasnt just a case of the ref getting it wrong on the night, this is a case of a fight where the result was pretty much decided even before they fought. (imo of course)

[Northern Ninja]

I had it 96-94 to McDermott. I hope the rematch happens.

[Lee Mc]

I had it 95-95 but, I admit in hindsight, I was very genorous towards Fury in one of the rounds I gave him.

I honestly can't see how McDermott won by 4 rounds because I had him losing the first 3 and I don't think he won, as he would had had to have done, every round from the 4th onwards to achive that score. However, all that said, the 98-92 offiical score was, with no doubt, one of the most disgraceful I have ever witnessed in a British ring.

An immediate re-match HAS to be ordered by the BBBC AND an investigation into O'conner's ability to referee fights MUST be launched.

[McManama]

I felt that it was a draw.

The problems were threefold:

1. Fury's rounds were pretty close, McDermott's were pretty clear.

2. Fury's workrate was generally pretty high, the punchstats show that...... McDermott did a lot of holding and ineffective stuff.

3. The commentary - Adam Smith and Jim Watt were an absolute disgrace, everything McDermott did was amazing, Fury was ineffective throughout.

The most annoying thing was Watt saying that Fury's resume to date was full of bums - his 7 fight resume pisses all over any other British fighter since Lennox Lewis!

delusional .....

[clyde]

Good fight......credit to both men.

I had McDermott winning it by 2 rounds.

Let's get the rematch sorted quickly, I want to see it.

[Ste Hawkins]

Fury has been shown as the rank amateur he is. The way he leant back and squinted when John threw punches to his face..novice. He STILL believes his own hype and did even after the fight, (when he should be eating humble pie and apologising for not being the great fighter he claims to be) he was trying to sell himself as the best in Europe and Britain!?
The commentators Adam Smith and Jim Watt were not biased, they saw what I saw. Fury will fold like a deck of cards against a strong punching, aggressive heavyweight. At present he's lucky to scrape in the top ten in England. Give me David Price, Chris Burton, Chisora, Williams, even Audley would KO Fury. He's a cleverly named gimmick.

[RebelBhoy]

delusional .....


please elaborate why? I thought those were all good points.

[Farmboxer]

Rematch!

[RDJ]

Big Bad John by a landslide.

[billyk]

Rematch!
They both said they would be happy to have a rematch straight after the fight so hopefully there will be.

[Squire]

the refereeing wasn't the problem, he did a good job refing the fight but you can't ask one guy to ref and score the system is to blame just as much

yea i agree. FFS i'm sure that fight was high profile enough to get some judges :verysad

[Squire]

They both said they would be happy to have a rematch straight after the fight so hopefully there will be.

how often does the winner say that then not follow through though?

[neil hibbert]

dont think john could get as motivated for the rematch though jeez would you? hed have to lay fury out on a stretcher to win most prob

[Welly]

I had McDermott winning 6-4, but even then I thought it was generous towards Fury. McDermott was a clear winner for me.

[clive justice]

forget boxing unless this result is overturned
mcdermott true champion and good sportsman

[Davies]

watch the fight with the sound off, completly deifferent fight



close fight, i had fury winning by a single point

i was about to say the exact same thing, wach it with the sound off, you get influenced by watts biased viewing of the fight, i had it 96-95 Fury :good the refs card was a joke but in no way was the fight a robbery

[brown bomber]

i was about to say the exact same thing, wach it with the sound off, you get influenced by watts biased viewing of the fight, i had it 96-95 Fury :good the refs card was a joke but in no way was the fight a robbery:good ~I had it by two but i've seen far worse dec that that. They'e making a big deal about nothing.

Fair enough Big John Mc had finally turned in a decent perfromance against a decent opponent but lets be honest here, he's never going to progress beyond English title level. Fury at least looks as though he might do something a little exciting. Had he lost to McD we might have been robbed of a half decent prospect. I'm not that upset. Credit to McD he put in a good performance but he should have done that from day one as a cruiserweight not as an obese heavyweight.

Its been taken overboard.

[Davies]

:good ~I had it by two but i've seen far worse dec that that. They'e making a big deal about nothing.

Fair enough Big John Mc had finally turned in a decent perfromance against a decent opponent but lets be honest here, he's never going to progress beyond English title level. Fury at least looks as though he might do something a little exciting. Had he lost to McD we might have been robbed of a half decent prospect. I'm not that upset. Credit to McD he put in a good performance but he should have done that from day one as a cruiserweight not as an obese heavyweight.

Its been taken overboard.

agree 99% (only your scorecard i obv disagree with) it has been taken well over board, also with people saying Tysons a prick for getting a win that big, it isnt his fault its the refs, i still say Tyson won, and am not particulaly a big fan of either

[jonnytightlips]

I had McDermott winning by 2 rounds.

[Beeston Brawler]

Most people generally had McDermott winning, which is fair enough.

It would almost have been better if we would have had one of those bulshit 96-95 cards - rather than the absolute joke of a 98-92 for Fury.

Sky's commentary was painful - Adam Smith is just a nodding dog, stooge, and Watt needs to purchase a pipe and slippers, be put out to grass.

Could we have some objectivity please, Sky?

[Cachibatches]

They both said they would be happy to have a rematch straight after the fight so hopefully there will be.
Fury ought to give him a rematch. No offense to McDermott, who is a tough guy for sure, but if Fury can't beat McDermott, he isn't going anywhere.

[alfi balboa]

what a boaring fight two out of shape lumps holding and dirty boxing the whole fight. has to be said worst descion ive ever seen. i was in total shock when furys hand got raised shocking.

[Lucky Punch]

Mcdermott won. tyson should rematch him again would be a big fight.

[essexboy]

McDermott edged it 6-4 by throwing the more effective punches. Fury threw more combinations though, could have been seen as a draw but a Fury win is pushing it a bit. Watt totally over-exaggerated McDermott's dominance though, he was very good but Fury was in the fight. I see Fury winning a rematch comfortably sadly for McDermott.

[mrbassie]

Just watched on youtube. That was almost a white wash, McDermott won decisively. That really was a serious robbery. Awful decision, disgusting in fact.
I had it about 8-2 or 7-3.

[GazOC]

mcD by 4 rounds.

[TFFP]

We have 124 posters in the Brit forum?

[JonOli]

I guess HW boxing still draws a lot of interest.

[mryeags]

Being a tad sceptical ... would OConnor have been influenced by a certain huge bet place prior to the fight on Fury ! ..mmmm .. just a thought !

[DamonD]

McDermott 6-4.

I thought Fury did rally to win the last two rounds, but was too far back on my card by then.

[Evil Rich]

Fury 6 - 4

Watched this at work with the sound off but felt Fury hit him a lot more, seeing as I'm in the minority makes me want to go back and watch it again. Not a fan of Fury at all either but I thought he had done enough :/

[joe the great]

Maybe Fury can give Mc Dermontt a rematch. This time have three judges.

[DamonD]

On that, it was because it was for the English title, wasn't it? They still allow ref decisions.

[RebelBhoy]

I guess HW boxing still draws a lot of interest.

Undefeated, handsome, 6ft 8" hyped heavies do.

Fury and Price are the only ones who could get this kind of attention.

McDermott Vs Lee Swaby wouldn't get this interest.

Even Chisora with his mouth and record wouldn't get any wider media attention.

[SeasideSlugger]

Big fat Mac by 2/3 rounds. Someone said watch it with the sound off, basically I did as I was in a pub, still McD for me.

A few of us were saying what a mess a decent heavy would make of both of them. Pretty low quality shit fight.

I'd say that was a big blow to the Fury band wagon as he couldn't get an overweight journeyman out of there.

8-2? Joke.

[KERRZO]

Draw

[icemax]

This is hilarious...fuck FatBoy McD...the disgrace shouldn't even be in a ring

[AndrewFFC]

I felt that it was a draw.

The problems were threefold:

1. Fury's rounds were pretty close, McDermott's were pretty clear.

2. Fury's workrate was generally pretty high, the punchstats show that...... McDermott did a lot of holding and ineffective stuff.

3. The commentary - Adam Smith and Jim Watt were an absolute disgrace, everything McDermott did was amazing, Fury was ineffective throughout.

The most annoying thing was Watt saying that Fury's resume to date was full of bums - his 7 fight resume pisses all over any other British fighter since Lennox Lewis!

Did you see the last guy he turned up against? The Homer Simpson lookalike?

[Little Tyson]

McDermott won it by 4 rounds i had it as.

[AndrewFFC]

I went for McDermot but only just. IM not boxing expert and i struggle to distinguish between glancing and good hits sometimes. But I felt in the first couple of rounds the commentator was hyping McDermots dominance.

[Harry Chibber]

Fair enough Big John Mc had finally turned in a decent perfromance against a decent opponent but lets be honest here, he's never going to progress beyond English title level. Fury at least looks as though he might do something a little exciting. Had he lost to McD we might have been robbed of a half decent prospect. I'm not that upset.

Yeh all very true but what the fuck has that got to do with anything?? If that was in the mind of the ref when he made the decision then that my friend is what would be called a 'fix'

The fight needs to be judged on the basis of what went on during that night and the previous 12 rounds of boxing (10 in this instance) and I couldn't give a toss about prospects or potential. If there is anything else which has been taken into consideration while making a decision on the winner then it's a sorry day for every boxer/boxing fan out there.

McDermott won it.

[CharlieGarbs]

Im not the greatest of judges, but I actually had Fury winning this. I turn't down the volume and its a totally different story. I think, if the ref didn't give Fury the win by such a wide margin, and the terrible commentator's didn't go crazy every time John lifted his hand, most people would see this differently. Although, I dont think Fury's getting anywhere. For such a big guy he just doesn't have the power. Good luck to him though, wish him and John all the best.

[CharlieGarbs]

Clearly not

Lol, everyone has an opinion pal.