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Rattler
09-13-2009, 11:02 AM
It's on.

White and Silva approached Couture about fighting Evans, but Rashad declined.

québecwarrior
09-13-2009, 11:12 AM
Rashad would have knocked Randy out. Vera will beat him. Couture cant take punch anymore

Grievesy
09-13-2009, 12:06 PM
Vera by TKO me thinks. Take it this is at 205, which I don't think is good for Couture added to the fact he's well past it. I don't understand why he's still fighting tbh.

LB3000
09-13-2009, 12:13 PM
Vera can stop Couture but he is going to need to be more aggressive. I wouldn't rule Couture out though and hope he wins. I can see it being a close fight and going to the judges.

OuterDrake
09-13-2009, 12:13 PM
Sylvia beat Vera.;)

Randy will out strike him and press him against the cage.

LB3000
09-13-2009, 12:18 PM
I read somewhere that there was talk of Hughes vs Anderson (don't know how true it is). Thats how desperate the UFC are to find a main event for 105. Its a shame they couldn't get Hendo vs Mardquart to headline this event.

achillesthegreat
09-13-2009, 12:22 PM
It's a good fight for Couture to see if he has anything left.

jimmie
09-13-2009, 12:22 PM
You know I dont mind this match TBH. It a winnable fight for Couture but at the same time it is for Vera and this win could be the most important of his career. Veras a much better striker although I think Randy can give him some trouble early on and maybe not have to worry TO MUCH cause Veras punching power isnt one of his greatest assests. Vera likes them kicks alot which could be good for Randy because you dont wanna give Randy a leg and Vera has been finished on the ground. Couture isnt the BJJ guy Werdumn was so it might be hard to gain the mount postion but he has better postion I could see a stronger Couture stopping Vera inside his half guard. Its not a bad matchup its a real intriguing fight.

jimmie
09-13-2009, 12:24 PM
I read somewhere that there was talk of Hughes vs Anderson (don't know how true it is). Thats how desperate the UFC are to find a main event for 105. Its a shame they couldn't get Hendo vs Mardquart to headline this event.

Yeah Hughes vs Anderson would be retarted. How would we do it ? Would it be a Middleweight and would it be a title fight ? Hendo hasnt signed a new contract yet and seems only intrested in 205 fights or a Middleweight Championship fight which hey its Hendo you know he doesnt duck guys and at this point can kinda pick opponets. Vera vs Couture isnt a bad main event though.

LB3000
09-13-2009, 12:34 PM
Yeah Hughes vs Anderson would be retarted. How would we do it ? Would it be a Middleweight and would it be a title fight ? Hendo hasnt signed a new contract yet and seems only intrested in 205 fights or a Middleweight Championship fight which hey its Hendo you know he doesnt duck guys and at this point can kinda pick opponets. Vera vs Couture isnt a bad main event though. I agree, its a tough one for the UFC so when you take all the stuff into consideration (Rampage pulling out, LW title fight moving to 107, Hendo out of contract) its not a bad headliner.

jimmie
09-13-2009, 12:35 PM
I agree, its a tough one for the UFC so when you take all the stuff into consideration (Rampage pulling out, LW title fight moving to 107, Hendo out of contract) its not a bad headliner.

Yeah it is and this never even crossed my mind I kept thinking they would do something Matt Hughes for the main event because Matt although a douche will usually fight anyone and anytime. This is better then any Matt Hughes fight.

audio101
09-13-2009, 12:36 PM
Vera?! This fight should be a sleeper with Vera running in circles.

Thom
09-13-2009, 01:04 PM
Vera by TKO me thinks. Take it this is at 205, which I don't think is good for Couture added to the fact he's well past it. I don't understand why he's still fighting tbh.


Does anyone know how much Kim took off of him in the divorce?

Rangersfan1982
09-13-2009, 04:35 PM
I hope it happens. Got tickets for this one.

Wilhelm
09-13-2009, 10:33 PM
Vera dominates lesser guys and is tentative as hell against good fighters. The only really good fighter he beat was Mir and I don't know how much Mir's best we saw in that fight. Vera is no Nog and unless he manages to work his kicks better than anyone else ever has against Couture I'll take Couture to win this. I think people are seeing Couture's loss to Nog as being that he's shot more than that Nog was just really good.

sugarngold
09-13-2009, 11:52 PM
Rashad would have knocked Randy out. Vera will beat him. Couture cant take punch anymore

I have to call bullshit on that. Couture would ragdoll Evans. Rashad isn't a striker. Don't let his lucky KO of Liddell fool you. Chuck walked into that shot. Machida is a true striker. Notice the difference between the two in their fight?

Thom
09-13-2009, 11:58 PM
I have to call bullshit on that. Couture would ragdoll Evans. Rashad isn't a striker. Don't let his lucky KO of Liddell fool you. Chuck walked into that shot. Machida is a true striker. Notice the difference between the two in their fight?


I think that Evans' striking on the whole is pretty crude, but this is bullshit. He had Liddell timed in the second round and hit him with that one two comco 3-4 times before the KO. Also, I'm not sure how Machida figures into a fight analysis between Evans and Couture. It's not like Couture's stand up game is anywhere near Machida's either.

darkaz619
09-14-2009, 12:02 AM
Couture should retire before he get seriously hurt.

jimmie
09-14-2009, 12:21 AM
I have to call bullshit on that. Couture would ragdoll Evans. Rashad isn't a striker. Don't let his lucky KO of Liddell fool you. Chuck walked into that shot. Machida is a true striker. Notice the difference between the two in their fight?

:happy Thankyou so often I hear Evans is this great striker but based on what ? A headkick on a 2 foot tall opponet and one counter on Liddell. People for some reason have this belief he stopped Forrest on their feet which is not the case he got dominated on their feet then caught a leg kick and took it down to the mat. Even Tito outstruck him. All he does is wave his fucking hands back and forth like a retard.

Vitor Belfort
09-14-2009, 03:24 AM
Good fight for vera. He needs a big name opponent at 205. Couture is still a threat cuz of his wrestling. Vera better keep this fight standing if he wants to win.

achillesthegreat
09-14-2009, 04:25 AM
Couture is fucking old. Eventually he won't be able to beat father time. In fight years he is at least 90.

LB3000
09-14-2009, 12:02 PM
The fight has now been officially confirmed.

sugarngold
09-14-2009, 12:58 PM
I think that Evans' striking on the whole is pretty crude, but this is bullshit. He had Liddell timed in the second round and hit him with that one two comco 3-4 times before the KO. Also, I'm not sure how Machida figures into a fight analysis between Evans and Couture. It's not like Couture's stand up game is anywhere near Machida's either.

I was trying to point out that machida is a real striker as evidenced by the way he tooled Evans. Saying Evans would KO Couture when he's handled much more dangerous strikers than Evans such as Liddell and Belfort is just ludicrous to me.

jimmie
09-14-2009, 02:52 PM
Im not totally sure Vera can win by just keeping it standing. 2 things bout Vera kinda play into Coutures hands 1 being is that like 75 percent of his offense maybe even more is all kick and Randy is a outstanding wrestling we all know that if he sees a kick he will catch it and take Vera down where hes the stronger fighter. The 2nd thing is Vera doesnt work very hard on his feet hes not really pressing the action its like hes sparring or doing the point fighting sports. Vera did basically just enough to win his last fight and not enough to beat Sylvia or Jardine and we know Randy likes to press the action and come forward he could make Vera uncomfertable by doing that. This is a very hard fight to pick IMO.

québecwarrior
09-14-2009, 05:26 PM
I have to call bullshit on that. Couture would ragdoll Evans. Rashad isn't a striker. Don't let his lucky KO of Liddell fool you. Chuck walked into that shot. Machida is a true striker. Notice the difference between the two in their fight?
YOu are right to a certain point, but I just feel that if Nog could land at will on Randy with his slow hands, well, Rashad just need one shot and he has that power and he will put Randy to sleep.
Randy Couture isnt a top 10 fighter for me anymore, he has no more punch resistance, he is a better striker than evans, yes, but with those little glove, he would get knocked out, now at 46.
If you take the couture of the Gonzaga fight, then yes, he would ragdoll him since his punch resistance was good in that fight taking a fucking high kick. But no more that case, IMHO