Kubrat Pulev pro debut

[dominic1234]

Did anybody know about this? He's fighting on the Sebastian Sylvester under card this weekend against some journeyman. It's happened quite quickly as Pulev was fighting at the world amateur boxing championships just a few days ago.

Never the less, a good and much needed addition to the European heavyweight boxing scene.

[NBT]

Well, he already wanted to turn pro after the European Championships in November 2008 and there was talk that he was signed by Sauerland and would debut on the Valuev-Holyfield card in December 2008 but he wasn't allowed to because he had to fullfill his contract with the Bulgarian army so that not really a surprising move.

[Ivo]

Ahem, that's interesting. I must have missed it on the news. Is this according to boxrec only?

I will ask around but no one talks about this on the Bulgarian boxing forum.

[Artani]

I like Pulev, I think he did a right think to move in pro, its time for him. I wish him all the best in pro boxing. He is good fighter and can do many thinks in future ..

[Mendoza]

Did anybody know about this? He's fighting on the Sebastian Sylvester under card this weekend against some journeyman. It's happened quite quickly as Pulev was fighting at the world amateur boxing championships just a few days ago.

Never the less, a good and much needed addition to the European heavyweight boxing scene.

Not a bad prospect.

[Ivo]

From what I learn it is true and this time Pulev will debut as pro. I have been waiting for this for a long time. He is 26 so it is not late.

[Odo]

Wow! Very good news!:good

[Mendoza]

Didn't Pulev defeat Timurizev before Timurizev fell apart? If I remember the guy right he's a good boxer, but not one to win by going toe to toe with the punchers.

[NBT]

Didn't Pulev defeat Timurizev before Timurizev fell apart?
Well, he won a decision against Timurziev 2005 in a tournament 2005 on his home turf in Bulgaria. On the other hand Timurziev stopped him in the semifinals of the Euopean Championships 2006.

[sasnyc]

For his pro debut tonight, Kubrat Pulev will face Florian Benke (2-3) from Romania. Sauerland plans to have him fight once per month for the rest of the year so he can be 4-0 entering 2010.

[Toney]

I dont expect Pulev to be a world class fighter, but in Europe everything should be possible. If fat old Paolo Vidoz, who looked just terrible against Skelton, still gets a shot at the European title, then just about everyone decent can go to the top.

[NBT]

I think Pulev looks a bit like Chagaev, he's taller though.
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btw he seem to be dating some Bulgarian "pop star" I never heard of...
TKpsmBk1Pa8

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[avk47]

I think Pulev looks a bit like Chagaev, he's taller though.



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:lol:

[BoxingFanBG]

The next undisputed HW champion of the world. Book it. WHO NEX
He can get himself a title shot for one of the EU belts, but he must work hard on his stamina. 4 rounds to 12 is the biggest problem for most of the am->pro boxers.
BTW Is Ivo Gotzev his manager?

Yep, his girlfriend is bulgarian a pop folk/softcore star(if you think that Lady Gaga videos are slutty...).

[Toney]

Pulev´s attitude was terrible in his debut fight... His opponent was poor, but still able to land several good shots on Pulev.

[Ivo]

I think Pulev looks a bit like Chagaev, he's taller though.
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btw he seem to be dating some Bulgarian "pop star" I never heard of...
TKpsmBk1Pa8

:lol:

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Wow! I am impressed with your knowledge of Bulgarian night life and pop-folk scene. I guess Andrea is popular only in Bulgaria and Romania.

[Odo]

Wow! I am impressed with your knowledge of Bulgarian night life and pop-folk scene. I guess Andrea is popular only in Bulgaria and Romania.


Hot chick!


I am looking forward to watching Pulev live on the undercard of AA vs Taylor in Germany's capital Berlin on octubre the 17th.

[Odo]

By the way Pulev is scheduled to take on an undefeated GErman based African with 5 victories under his belt.
Well,not that bad,eh!
Pulev vs a undefeated fighter in his second pro fight!
Very good matchmaking!

Sauerland really knows how to match his boys.His rival Kohl can certainly take a leaf out of his rival's book!:good

[dominic1234]

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[Odo]

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The Bulgarian had to take some good shots! Good opponent for his pro debut!

[Ivo]

Yes, Pulev was caught few times by the Romanian. Maybe he took him lightly. I hope he makes the right adjustments for his next fight with that unbeaten opponent.

[Ivo]

It seems that his opponent for the Abraham v Taylor undercard was changed. Initially it was reported that Pulev would face Tshibuabua Kalonga. Now it is Serdar Uysal.

[Toney]

It seems that his opponent for the Abraham v Taylor undercard was changed. Initially it was reported that Pulev would face Tshibuabua Kalonga. Now it is Serdar Uysal.

Uysal is a decent spoiler. He cant box or punch, but he is akward. I dont expect Pulev to be impressive in this one.

[Ivo]

Thank you for the info, Toney! I do not remember watching a Uysal fight. He seems to be a small heavyweight.

[Odo]

Uysal is a decent spoiler. He cant box or punch, but he is akward. I dont expect Pulev to be impressive in this one.

The Bulgarian put up a quite impressive show of boxing in the ring. I liked the way he took his time and systimatically dismantled his Turkish foe!
Well done job IMO!:good

[Ivo]

I think that this time Kubrat did better than in his debut fight. I hope that Sauerland will keep him busy. Suerland's people say that they think Kubrat should come to Germany. At this point he lives and trains in Bulgaria.

[carlos_jackal]

Well, he won a decision against Timurziev 2005 in a tournament 2005 on his home turf in Bulgaria. On the other hand Timurziev stopped him in the semifinals of the Euopean Championships 2006.

Probably shouldn't have got the decision against timurziev then

[Odo]

I couldnt believe my very own eyes when reading that Pulev will square off against Lamon Brewster's conqueror Gbenga Oloukun-in his 3rd pro fight- on the undercard of Valuev vs Haye:admin:admin:admin

Pure madness! Damn! The Nigerian olympian beat Brewster in one of his last fights,had a bloody close fight with Dettweiler in his last outing to a ring,and has all in all 20 fights in the pro circus.
Pulev has twice beaten totally unknown no-hopers up to now.He is a rookie in the paid ranks.
He seems to be travelling on the fast track.I for my part think that he will lose this upcomming fight.Far too early to take on someone like Gbenga at this very early stage of the Bulgarian's career.
Not even Povetkin and Solis have matched as toughly as Pulev.
Damn! The under card fights are even more interesting than the main event, Haye vs Valuev! Pulev vs Gbenga,and Helenius vs Bidenko.

[Vysotsky]

Damn! The under card fights are even more interesting than the main event, Haye vs Valuev! Pulev vs Gbenga,and Helenius vs Bidenko.

Wasn't Helenius supposed to fight either Brewster or Platov?

I think Bidenko is a harder fight than Brewster. After that Boytsov loss i hope Bidenko gets another good win or two under his belt & gets back in the mix. Big fan of his.

[dominic1234]

Good matchmaking. Taking in to account Kubrat isn't getting any younger and has a stellar amateur career he should be moved on very quickly in this weak era of heavyweights.

Interestingly enough, if Kubrat wins this fight he'd leap frog Oloukun and be ranked in the top ten of the WBO.

Kubrat vs Wlad for 2010 :yep:deal

[ogii3]

Hi guys,
It's very nice that after Tontcho Tontchev we once again has a professional fighter, who may impress European fans :) I am very glad that I was in Berlin to see live the second pro fight of Kubrat. Here are some photos that i made (the use on other web pages/print edition without permission is prohibed:). On the last photo is how looks the face of the Turkish fighter after 3 and half rounds with Pulev

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I am sorry that will not be able to present on his third fight, cos it really will be very tought, but for sure i think Kubrat will not have problems. With the guys, we were in Berlin, we have a chance to speak a lot with Kubrat before and after the fight. He said that is ready to fight every week :) I hope that they will put the match ot TV.

[ishy]

Thanks for the pics :good
He looks a lot like Chagaev. Can't believe Pulev is fighting Oloukun in just his 3rd pro fight!

[Odo]

Wasn't Helenius supposed to fight either Brewster or Platov?

I think Bidenko is a harder fight than Brewster. After that Boytsov loss i hope Bidenko gets another good win or two under his belt & gets back in the mix. Big fan of his.

I also think that Bidenko is a tougher n ut to crack than Brewster at this stage of his career.
I also like Bidenko's style.Of course I will root for him against Helenius.I think that he will be able to outbox the green rookie and win a point decision.
Helenius is gifted and has certainly improved a lot under the command of that old grumpy Wegner ,but he is no second Boytsov and experience is a mighty factor in these kind of fights.
I for my part certainly favour Bidenko over Helenius!
True crossroad fight for Bidenko! He has to win this upcomming fight very badly.

[NBT]

I also think that Bidenko is a tougher n ut to crack than Brewster at this stage of his career.
That depends on what you're looking for. Bidenko is a solid skilled boxer but also feather-fisted. Brewster on the other hand isn't too great of a boxer, especially at this stage, but he has the punching power that could be the equaliser. Out of the two choosing Bidenko is definitely the wiser choice. Helenius is the Sauerland fighter on the Sauerland card so he is supposed to win this. Bidenko is the "opponent", so even if he is better, he has to win in very convincing fashion to get the decision and he won't stop Helenius unless Helenius is really china-chinned. A Brewster match-up is much more unpredicable because even if Brewster loses every minute of the fight, he can still turn things around with 1-2 punches. A knockout loss to Brewster would be much more damaging for Helenius' career than a decision loss to Bidenko which is rather unlikely.

[ogii3]

Helenius will fight with Brewster on 5 December Sauerland show in Stuttgart, as well as Kubrat Pulev (who may face Bidenko or some other Top 50 fighter, if of corse beats his third opponent)

[Odo]

That depends on what you're looking for. Bidenko is a solid skilled boxer but also feather-fisted. Brewster on the other hand isn't too great of a boxer, especially at this stage, but he has the punching power that could be the equaliser. Out of the two choosing Bidenko is definitely the wiser choice. Helenius is the Sauerland fighter on the Sauerland card so he is supposed to win this. Bidenko is the "opponent", so even if he is better, he has to win in very convincing fashion to get the decision and he won't stop Helenius unless Helenius is really china-chinned. A Brewster match-up is much more unpredicable because even if Brewster loses every minute of the fight, he can still turn things around with 1-2 punches. A knockout loss to Brewster would be much more damaging for Helenius' career than a decision loss to Bidenko which is rather unlikely.

Truly spoken,nbt!

Brewster is a very wayward and unpredictable fighter at this stage of his career.You are also right in saying that ko loss would be far more damaging for Helenius' career than a point defeat at this hands of such a heralded fighter like Bidenko.
Good points,nbt!

[Ivo]

This will be a tough fight for Pulev. It is so early in his career.

[Toney]

Pulev won UD over Oloukun according to boxrec.

[boxeo#1]

Pulev won UD over Oloukun according to boxrec.

Wow! That's DAMN impressive. This win should catapult him in the rankings.

[ogii3]

Just watch the fight. Very nice win for Kubrat. Without risks he took at all 3-4 punches for entire fight and clearly dominating in the entire match. Was very cool in the ring and it was like saying - give me some better guys. I want to see him directly against guys like John Ruiz or Liakhovich.

[Odo]

Props to Pulev for overcomming such a big obstacle in his third outing to the ring in the paid ranks!:good:good:good
Very well done! Olokoun,the Nigerian olympian and Brewster conqueror,is a damn fine scalp in Pulev's collection.
Bloody tough matchmaking! I very much hope that he will have some softer targets in front of his fists within the next 12 months.No need to rush him into murderous fights! He has proved that he is for real by beating such a experienced and capable operator like Olokoun in his third pro fight!

[dominic1234]

Never mind, got it.

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[Cachibatches]

Never mind, got it.

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Thanks for posting. Seems like the man knows how to control a fight with his jab and make his opponent miss.

[TFFP]

Thanks for posting. Seems like the man knows how to control a fight with his jab and make his opponent miss.
Yep, very nice jab. Very very sharp and accurate.

Strange guard the boy has...his arms are practically like he's about to hug his opponent. Whatever works I guess...as long as he's got good reflexes to compensate for that.

Quite impressive.

[Cachibatches]

Yep, very nice jab. Very very sharp and accurate.

Strange guard the boy has...his arms are practically like he's about to hug his opponent. Whatever works I guess...as long as he's got good reflexes to compensate for that.

Quite impressive.
A bit like Archie Moore?

[TFFP]

A bit like Archie Moore?
Not sure he's got the whole rolling off the shoulder thing down to a tee to compensate for that just yet :lol: Ol' Mongoose was a crafty SOB in there.

I wonder if Pulev wouldn't be better just keeping things in the traditional Eastern style and keeping his gloves nearer his chin at all times. I havn't seen his first fights but I heard he got hit. He obviously likes to have a clear view of things and be reactive, which might be okay as an amateur when there are pillow gloves and the other guy is point scoring but we'll see how that works out for him as he progresses.

[Ivo]

I think that this time Kubrat Pulev looked much better than in his first fight. I guess he made the right adjustments. He controlled the fight well from a distance.

[rapidfire]

That rabbit punch was nasty and to me it seemed that he really liked doing it. That´s not a fighter i will root for, but he looks somewhat promising in his skills, to be fair.

[ogii3]

That rabbit punch was nasty and to me it seemed that he really liked doing it. That´s not a fighter i will root for, but he looks somewhat promising in his skills, to be fair.
Kubrat received several low blows during fight and maybe this inspires him to use th nasty illigal blow in the last round.
Something interesting from him - he said that he wasen't warm up very well, cos the previous fight was scheduled for 8 rounds and was expected to go full distance, but ended with first round KO. This was the reason he do not enter into the fight in the first two rounds and keeps quite defensive.
About his guard, one of his best qualities is that he has amazing feeling of distance and this helps him a lot. He is also very fast with legs for his 108-109 kg.
He also said that his next opponent on 5th December gala probably will be from USA.

[Odo]

Kubrat received several low blows during fight and maybe this inspires him to use th nasty illigal blow in the last round.
Something interesting from him - he said that he wasen't warm up very well, cos the previous fight was scheduled for 8 rounds and was expected to go full distance, but ended with first round KO. This was the reason he do not enter into the fight in the first two rounds and keeps quite defensive.
About his guard, one of his best qualities is that he has amazing feeling of distance and this helps him a lot. He is also very fast with legs for his 108-109 kg.
He also said that his next opponent on 5th December gala probably will be from USA.

Interesting news,ogii! Pulev will appear on the undercard of Huck vs Olafabi as well as his victorious stable mate Helenius.
Does Pulev have the intention to move to Berlin/Germany in order to train under the command of Sauerland's head coach Wegner as does Helenius?

[ogii3]

Kubrat is comming to Germany just few days before every fight (max a week time). Before that he is training under his old coach Mikhail Takov (who was coaching Tontcho Tontchev during times when he won European superfeatherweight title in 2001. Also he coached Kindelaki and some other fighters with Panix promotions/Fondu contracts).

I am not so sure if it will be a good idea to come to Wegner, who may want to change his style. Pulev is absolutly complete fighter with more then 250 high level amateur fights from light-heavyweights to Super Heavyweiths since 1999. Now he is very fresh in such 6 rounders, but it may be different when it comes to 8 or 10 rounders against opponents from Gbenga calubur. It may be needed more then just a month to prepare the tactics and condition.

About Helenius, i remember him, when he was amateur and was comming to Bulgaria to fight Strandja cup tournament. During this times he was coached by his father. Maybe it's the same now and just Wegner comming in the ring :)

[Ivo]

I think that Kurat should spend more time in Germany. He should try to learn German as well. It is important that he speaks in German to media.

In regard of his Bulgarian coach, I think that at some stage Kubrat should change that. We do not have experienced pro boxing coaches. Those are different sports.

[ogii3]

Sauerland gave to Kubrat Pulev Otto Ramin as a personal coach in Germany, but i am not sure if Kubrat has intentions to learn the language. He said in an interview that his girlfriend knows Deutsch and will be with him for the next fight. Valuev also do not know to speak well German and during pressconference he used translator (i was attending in just one, but think that he didn't improve a lot his language skills since last year).

Takov has big experience as professional coach. He worked as i said with Tontcho Tontchev during his enti career. Also was training with retired as unbeaten heavyweight Georgi Kandelaki. We may add that he spend a lot of time working in the Lennox Lewis college before it was closed in 98 or 99. During this time almost all of Panos Eliadies boxers trained thеre.

[Odo]

Sauerland gave to Kubrat Pulev Otto Ramin as a personal coach in Germany, but i am not sure if Kubrat has intentions to learn the language. He said in an interview that his girlfriend knows Deutsch and will be with him for the next fight. Valuev also do not know to speak well German and during pressconference he used translator (i was attending in just one, but think that he didn't improve a lot his language skills since last year).

Takov has big experience as professional coach. He worked as i said with Tontcho Tontchev during his enti career. Also was training with retired as unbeaten heavyweight Georgi Kandelaki. We may add that he spend a lot of time working in the Lennox Lewis college before it was closed in 98 or 99. During this time almost all of Panos Eliadies boxers trained thеre.

Ivo is right,ogii!
Pulev has to learn German in order to enhance his financial markebility and to collect big paychecks.
Valuev is a mutant-no need for him to pick up the language of his host nation.
Pulev is a smart fighter. I very much hope that he is also a smart businessman.
He has to learn either German or English to make some big bucks in the paid ranks.
I also agree with Ivo in as far as he has to move over to Germany at one point of his career.
The Germans have quite a handful of experienced pro trainer who k now the ropes and who can teach an old dog some new tricks.
As much as I like Bulgaria and the Bulgarians( I met some very likeable guys from Bulgaria when I was in Spain some weeks ago) your native soil is not the place to be in order to be successful in the paid ranks of pro boxing:-(

[ogii3]

Odo, nice words for our country :) You must come for sure some day. And you are right that Bulgaria is not the best place to develop yourself as a pro boxer, regarding lack of promotors and boxing shows.
But you missed some points. Kubrat Pulev is not the guy who will start to learn German language. I saw him, when he communicates very well with Doring in the hotel before and after the match just with some words in English.

Kubrat knows how to act in front of press and how to make noise around himself. I think his English and even with the help of translator he may present some positive mood during press conference and interviews. He also has amazing live story.

About coaches, i am still thinking that Bulgarian coaches are far better then Germans, not only in amateur. Yes, you are right that Wegner has great experience leading his guys, but in order of preparation, game plan etc, some of Bulgarian trainers are on very high level, just they do not have a chance to work, because we don't have promotions.

[Odo]

Odo, nice words for our country :) You must come for sure some day. And you are right that Bulgaria is not the best place to develop yourself as a pro boxer, regarding lack of promotors and boxing shows.
But you missed some points. Kubrat Pulev is not the guy who will start to learn German language. I saw him, when he communicates very well with Doring in the hotel before and after the match just with some words in English.

Kubrat knows how to act in front of press and how to make noise around himself. I think his English and even with the help of translator he may present some positive mood during press conference and interviews. He also has amazing live story.

About coaches, i am still thinking that Bulgarian coaches are far better then Germans, not only in amateur. Yes, you are right that Wegner has great experience leading his guys, but in order of preparation, game plan etc, some of Bulgarian trainers are on very high level, just they do not have a chance to work, because we don't have promotions.

I dont know,ogii!

Pro fighting and amateur fighting are close relative,but they are still two different pairs of shoes,so to speak.
A good example: Alexander Zimin. He was a highly decorated and heralded amateur coach back then in the old soviet union and later in Russia.
A great trainer-I am sorry to say this ,but there is no Bulgarian amateur coach who can hold a candle to Zimin nor are they that many coaches out there who can.
But......................did you watch him when he was in Valuev's corner during the Haye fight?
No plan B,no strategy.He advised his boy to use his jab when he was losing the fight and needed a ko to win that fight( okay,the official scorecards were close,but no way would any judge have scored that fight a draw outside Germany).
Instead of advising him to play it rough,corner Haye and wrestle him down putting his weight on the Brit's shoulder,Zimin continued telling his boy that he should use his jab more often.
Zimin's lack of experience in the pro circus was obvious.
The German or German based top trainers know the ropes,ogii!

As for Pulev's language skills he has to speak either German or English quite well to be able to earn big bucks in the German or western market,ogii.Thats the way it works here!
I am absolutely positive that Pulev will pick up German quite quickly if he knows that the command of that language can fill his pockets with decent sums of money:D

As for Bulgaria, I have already been there.Sorrowly,just a few days.
However,I ve met so many nice and likeable Bulgarians outside Bulgaria( and chicks,too:D)-especially in Spain,Germany,and the Czech Republic.

[dominic1234]

Kubrat Pulev is fighting American Journeymen Zack Page in a 6 rounder on the Marco Huck card.

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[Ivo]

This Zack Page chap is a small heavyweight apparently but he is very experienced and went the distance with many American prospects. It will be a good sign if Pulev manages to stop him.

[Odo]

Kubrat Pulev is fighting American Journeymen Zack Page in a 6 rounder on the Marco Huck card.

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Sauerland truly matches his young guns very toughly these days.
Helenius and Pulev are no protected fighters.Thats for sure!:good

[Brickhaus]

Zack Page isn't bad. Solid gatekeeper, and he's knocked off a few prospects on the way up (including knocking out Kasim Howard not too long ago, who some had touted as a possible big thing). He won a wide decision over Cisse Salif not too long ago if that gives people a decent idea of where he is. He likes to grab a lot, he doesn't have a great workrate, and he's on the small side, but he comes in to play the role of the spoiler and has a lot of tricks to disrupt a fighter's rhythm. I guess Sauerland must have really high hopes for this kid if they've put him in with someone like Page this early.

[kostya by ko]

Zack Page isn't bad. Solid gatekeeper, and he's knocked off a few prospects on the way up (including knocking out Kasim Howard not too long ago, who some had touted as a possible big thing). He won a wide decision over Cisse Salif not too long ago if that gives people a decent idea of where he is. He likes to grab a lot, he doesn't have a great workrate, and he's on the small side, but he comes in to play the role of the spoiler and has a lot of tricks to disrupt a fighter's rhythm. I guess Sauerland must have really high hopes for this kid if they've put him in with someone like Page this early.

:good cheers. good info.

[dominic1234]

Sweet lord have mercy, Kubrat Pulev is going to fight Oleg Platov in January on the Sebastian Sylvester undercard.

This guy is one serious badass.

[ishy]

Sweet lord have mercy, Kubrat Pulev is going to fight Oleg Platov in January on the Sebastian Sylvester undercard.

This guy is one serious badass.

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This is some crazy matchmaking from Sauerland for this guy.

[Alcaldemb]

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This is some crazy matchmaking from Sauerland for this guy.

They have a lot of confidence in him.

[ishy]

They have a lot of confidence in him.

Evidently so! I guess his age has a lot to do with it as well. At 28 they can't waste time padding his record out.

[Vysotsky]

Platov is a tough fight. He's limited but he can bang as good as anybody in the division. It'll certainly test Pulev's chin and heart. He should try to avoid slugging with Oleg and stick to his boxing.

[Cachibatches]

Sweet lord have mercy, Kubrat Pulev is going to fight Oleg Platov in January on the Sebastian Sylvester undercard.

This guy is one serious badass.
Wow. Sure hope he can pull it off. How many rounds is it?

[Odo]

This Zack Page chap is a small heavyweight apparently but he is very experienced and went the distance with many American prospects. It will be a good sign if Pulev manages to stop him.


One question,ivo!

Yesterday night we painted the town red and had a splendid evening with lots of drinks and a lot of fun.
We met a group of Bulgarian people(2 pretty girls from Sofia,and a manager from Varna). Neither of them has ever heard of Pulev.
He doesnt seem to be very known in Bulgaria,does he?

[dominic1234]

Wow. Sure hope he can pull it off. How many rounds is it?

8 rounds. Robert Helenius also faces Lamon Brewster on the same card in a 10 round bout. Should be a telling night for the prospects.

[ogii3]

Just watch finally Pulev's match against Page. Not so good performance by Bulgarian. He agreed with this and said that Page was very fast and used a lot to clinch with head down.

Kubrat won clearly just 6 round, lost 3rd by little and in the others he had small dominance. Seems he may have problems with fast boxers (Pulev is also very fast for his 107-109 kg).

THis fight must be a clear sign for him that every fighter is different and he must prepare himself for the style of his opponent. I am pretty sure he didn't train for such a fast boxer as Page.

I think Platov was the perfect match, because Ukrainian is slower then Pulev. In the last three years Platov had just 3 fights (i have a chance to diner with Oleg and the guys of his coaching team in Zurich last year, where he fought Jason Gavern and he said that have some injuries problems and this was the reason for not so much matches).

Interesting fact is that Platov's manager is Ivailo Gotzev, who wanted to have a Bulgarian fighter in his stable and wanted to sign Pulev, but Kubrat prefers Sauerland. Year ago there were comanagment between Ivailo and Sauerland. Don't know what is the current situation right now.

[BoxingFanBG]

He doesnt seem to be very known in Bulgaria,does he?
You should have asked them: Do you know the boyfriend of Andrea, he is a HW boxer?:nut

I don't like the matchmaking, he is thrown way too early. If he gets beaten in his first 10 fights, Pulevs career may be over. Also I hope that Pulev will scrap the Bulgarian boxing stance and keep his hands up against Platov.

[Ivo]

One question,ivo!

Yesterday night we painted the town red and had a splendid evening with lots of drinks and a lot of fun.
We met a group of Bulgarian people(2 pretty girls from Sofia,and a manager from Varna). Neither of them has ever heard of Pulev.
He doesnt seem to be very known in Bulgaria,does he?

I find it strange because Pulev's girlfriend is kind of Bulgarian celebrity. I would not be surprised if they did not know him only because of boxing. Boxing is not popular in Bulgaria. I guess in general Bulgarians know Pulev because he is part of the night life. The fact is that Pulev's last 2 fights were not shown on Bulgarian TV.

[wally]

Just hope it won't be Yoan Pablo Hernandez all over again for Sauerland and Pulev.

Still I love it. Much better than Universum and if he manages to pull it off, then the world is his :)

[Odo]

You should have asked them: Do you know the boyfriend of Andrea, he is a HW boxer?:nut

I don't like the matchmaking, he is thrown way too early. If he gets beaten in his first 10 fights, Pulevs career may be over. Also I hope that Pulev will scrap the Bulgarian boxing stance and keep his hands up against Platov.

You are probably right.I should have asked for Andrea's boyfriend:D

[Odo]

I find it strange because Pulev's girlfriend is kind of Bulgarian celebrity. I would not be surprised if they did not know him only because of boxing. Boxing is not popular in Bulgaria. I guess in general Bulgarians know Pulev because he is part of the night life. The fact is that Pulev's last 2 fights were not shown on Bulgarian TV.


I couldnt remember the name of Pulev's girlfriend,ivo.

I told them that Pulev's babe is a well known Bulgarian singer.Nevertheless,they didnt know Pulev nor were they able to guess who he was.

Well,if he keeps winning his fights and keeps fighting one well known and recognisable name after another he will soon become Bulgaria's best known sportsman:D

I will take off my hat to him if his fight with Platov comes off and Pulev is victorious!:good:good:good

PS: I still think that this kind of matchmaking is pure madness and quite stupid!

[Sakura]

Strong rumours say Helenius and Pulev sparred together last wednesday 6.rounds and sparring should be continue next friday, but Pulev never arrive..reason was his sides were so broken...
Helenius will TKO Brester by body punch..

[Aint no stoppin]

Strong rumours say Helenius and Pulev sparred together last wednesday 6.rounds and sparring should be continue next friday, but Pulev never arrive..reason was his sides were so broken...
Helenius will TKO Brester by body punch..

i really dont know how i rate helenius! But his right to the body is really good!

[Sakura]

i really dont know how i rate helenius! But his right to the body is really good!
Believe me - his next champ in some union. Probably David haye will give his grown away.

[Vysotsky]

Just watch finally Pulev's match against Page. Not so good performance by Bulgarian. He agreed with this and said that Page was very fast and used a lot to clinch with head down.

Kubrat won clearly just 6 round, lost 3rd by little and in the others he had small dominance. Seems he may have problems with fast boxers (Pulev is also very fast for his 107-109 kg).

THis fight must be a clear sign for him that every fighter is different and he must prepare himself for the style of his opponent. I am pretty sure he didn't train for such a fast boxer as Page.

I think Platov was the perfect match, because Ukrainian is slower then Pulev. In the last three years Platov had just 3 fights (i have a chance to diner with Oleg and the guys of his coaching team in Zurich last year, where he fought Jason Gavern and he said that have some injuries problems and this was the reason for not so much matches).

Interesting fact is that Platov's manager is Ivailo Gotzev, who wanted to have a Bulgarian fighter in his stable and wanted to sign Pulev, but Kubrat prefers Sauerland. Year ago there were comanagment between Ivailo and Sauerland. Don't know what is the current situation right now.

Do you have a copy of the Pulev Page fight? I haven't seen it anywhere

[ogii3]

Here is the link:
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I am not sure if you would be able to watch it outside Bulgaria. If not, try to find some Bulgarian proxy server, that will give you Bulgarian IP address.
Best regards

[Antsu]

Believe me - his next champ in some union. Probably David haye will give his grown away.

He is good but he has no change against Haye at this point

[Vysotsky]

Here is the link:
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I am not sure if you would be able to watch it outside Bulgaria. If not, try to find some Bulgarian proxy server, that will give you Bulgarian IP address.
Best regards

You are the fucking man sir! It plays fine, thank you thank you

[chauncy]

I have been sparring Pulev, and watching his sparring with the other guys. This guy is the real deal! He will go quite far.

[ogii3]

"Sauerland" has big problems connecting with Oleg Platov in last few weeks. He didn;t answer to his phone. So now we have new opponent for Kubrat Pulev - Matt Skelton :)

[BoxingFanBG]

Pulev by a wide UD.

[Aint no stoppin]

"Sauerland" has big problems connecting with Oleg Platov in last few weeks. He didn;t answer to his phone. So now we have new opponent for Kubrat Pulev - Matt Skelton :)

seriously fuck platov! everytime he has a good fight lined up he pulls out!
he sucks

[ChrisPontius]

"Sauerland" has big problems connecting with Oleg Platov in last few weeks. He didn;t answer to his phone. So now we have new opponent for Kubrat Pulev - Matt Skelton :)

That's great news! Wonder if it might be too early though, fighting a former title challenger in your 5th pro fight?

I have been sparring Pulev, and watching his sparring with the other guys. This guy is the real deal! He will go quite far.

You did? How would you compare his power to other heavyweights? He seems to be very, VERY good technically, and strong, but although he can whack, he doesn't appear to be a huge hitter. What do you think?

[ishy]

Skelton is his 5th fight!!! I am impressed

[kirilpp]

I guess Skelton isn't in a very good condition right now, because of his 3 losses in the last 4 matches. Maybe Platov is still a "big spoon for his mouth", and this is the right way for him to grow and to gather experience.

[chauncy]

That's great news! Wonder if it might be too early though, fighting a former title challenger in your 5th pro fight?



You did? How would you compare his power to other heavyweights? He seems to be very, VERY good technically, and strong, but although he can whack, he doesn't appear to be a huge hitter. What do you think?

Personally, I think his power is good. He sets up his shots nicely and is very accurate.
His right hand is sharp, and his left hook is very sneaky. His jab is awkward too. Kinda just keeps it out there in your face, then when you try to hit him here comes the hook right combo.
So altogether to answer your question, he isnt the biggest hitter but will knock some good fighters out.
I would put his power on par with Helenius.:thumbsup

[Ivo]

Skelton had his good fights in 2008 against Chagaev and Vidoz. However, the fight with Rogie in 2009 was the beginning of the end, I believe. Rogie broke his spirit. Skelton looked very disinterested in his last fight with Pianeta. He was there for the paycheck only.

So, I am disappointed with the last developments. I think that Platov would have been a better test for Pulev since he is still hungry contrary to Skelton. I do not expect much of Skelton even though he is very experienced. I guess Skelton will show up for another paycheck.

Pulev should stop Skelton if he wants to make a statement. People will compare his performance with the one Pianeta put a few months ago.

Welcome to the board, kirilpp!

[kirilpp]

Thanks Ivo, I'm happy to see that there are a lot of bulgarian boxing fans here. I think that the whole Pulev training strategy for the fight has changed. Does someone know how Pulev train, who is his sparring partner and so on?

[Ivo]

I guess our member Chauncy knows more about this because he said that he had been sparring with Pulev/watching him against other fighters. He posted this information on the previous page, kirilpp.

[Alcaldemb]

Skelton had his good fights in 2008 against Chagaev and Vidoz. However, the fight with Rogie in 2009 was the beginning of the end, I believe. Rogie broke his spirit. Skelton looked very disinterested in his last fight with Pianeta. He was there for the paycheck only.

So, I am disappointed with the last developments. I think that Platov would have been a better test for Pulev since he is still hungry contrary to Skelton. I do not expect much of Skelton even though he is very experienced. I guess Skelton will show up for another paycheck.

Pulev should stop Skelton if he wants to make a statement. People will compare his performance with the one Pianeta put a few months ago.

Welcome to the board, kirilpp!

Pulev should do much better than Pianeta, better technical base plus greater talent equals more impressive victory.

[Bummy Davis]

Tough fight for a young pro with 5 pro fights. If he wins it will be impressive. Pulev has talent and they must believe in him

[ogii3]

Pulev is favorit in the bookies - Bet-at-home gives him 1,23 for win, Skelton is 4.00 and the draw 25.00.
On the weight in Pulev 109,5 kg, Matt - 115. Their match will be third in the card and is not included in ARD live transmition. It's very possible to be showed on delay if the main event finished earlier. However we have also Helenius- Brewster and Murat's 12 rounder. The Germans (resp. ARD) will also have better interest in Gerber - Dettweiler local derby.

If everythink will be ok for Pulev, his next match will be on 13 March at "Max Schmeling hall" in Berlin with headliners there - Marco Huck defense and warm up fight for Povetkin

[boxeo#1]

Kubrat defeated Skelton by 4th round TKO.

I didn't even know the Platov fight was off. What happened??
Funny 'cause one poster here said the fight vs Platov won't happen 'cause Platov fights never happen:rofl.. damn was he right:yep

[Cachibatches]

Kubrat defeated Skelton by 4th round TKO.

I didn't even know the Platov fight was off. What happened??
Funny 'cause one poster here said the fight vs Platov won't happen 'cause Platov fights never happen:rofl.. damn was he right:yep
Fantastic!

Skelton ain't what he once was, but it is a fine feather in his cap for his fifth fight.

Kubrat is for real.

[kenmore]

Very, very impressive win for a guy who turned pro only four months ago. Pulev has begun his pro career in ausipcious fashion.

[Forensic Scene]

He knocked down Skelton, who barely beat the count, at which point the fight was waved off.

[ishy]

Good win for Pulev but Skelton should now retire.

[kirilpp]

I've posted a link with video from the fight in [Only registered and activated users can see links]

[Farmboxer]

He has a really good future...............

[Ivo]

It is a very good win for Pulev. He had some time in the first time. Afterwards, he was in complete control. Very nice left to the body. I guess some of my thoughts about Skelton's current condition were correct. Yet, it is very impressive.

I am looking forward to his next fight in March 13. It is good that Sauerland keeps him busy. Another 1-2 fights and he may be on Bulgarian TV.

[Mendoza]

Personally, I think his power is good. He sets up his shots nicely and is very accurate.
His right hand is sharp, and his left hook is very sneaky. His jab is awkward too. Kinda just keeps it out there in your face, then when you try to hit him here comes the hook right combo.
So altogether to answer your question, he isnt the biggest hitter but will knock some good fighters out.
I would put his power on par with Helenius.:thumbsup

Welcome to the board Mr. Welliver. The thing about Pulev, is he's a lot longer and taller than Chagaev's, Povetkin's, and Ibragimov's who made their mark. While I do not think Pulev hits as hard or takes as good as a punch as these three, I do think he is the hardest man to out point in a boxing sense of the bunch.

[kirilpp]

Another 1-2 fights and he may be on Bulgarian TV.

You are joking right ? :yep

[ogii3]

Next match will be on 20 February in Belgium. Opponent TBA, but will not be some strong name as previous three. Pulev, as he said in interviews in Bulgaria, will travel to Belgium just 2-3 days before the fight. He will stay in his homecountry to prepare until then.
Sauerland events has another big gala on 13 March and he probably will be there as well. That means 2 matches in 6 weeks for him.

[chauncy]

Welcome to the board Mr. Welliver. The thing about Pulev, is he's a lot longer and taller than Chagaev's, Povetkin's, and Ibragimov's who made their mark. While I do not think Pulev hits as hard or takes as good as a punch as these three, I do think he is the hardest man to out point in a boxing sense of the bunch.

Agreed. Pulev is very smart, and I have also sparred Chugaev, and he is very good, but doesn't quite set up his combinations the same Pulev. Thats were Pulev will do great, setting his opponents up for the ko. Most guys just look for it. He set it up and plants everything and is very accurate.:D
I think this guy will go far.:thumbsup

[Ivo]

You are joking right ? :yep

Yes, I am joking but I am also pissed that Bulgarian TV channels do not broadcast Pulev fights (with a small exception of his debut and the second fight as far as I remember). I can easily watch his fights without our TV channels but it is hard and even impossible for the regular sports fan in Bulgaria. Thus boxing loses popularity in Bulgaria.

[Ivo]

Agreed. Pulev is very smart, and I have also sparred Chugaev, and he is very good, but doesn't quite set up his combinations the same Pulev. Thats were Pulev will do great, setting his opponents up for the ko. Most guys just look for it. He set it up and plants everything and is very accurate.:D
I think this guy will go far.:thumbsup

It is very interesting to read your thoughts on Pulev, chauncy! I really appreciate that you are sharing those things here. Thank you!

[kirilpp]

Yes, I am joking but I am also pissed that Bulgarian TV channels do not broadcast Pulev fights (with a small exception of his debut and the second fight as far as I remember). I can easily watch his fights without our TV channels but it is hard and even impossible for the regular sports fan in Bulgaria. Thus boxing loses popularity in Bulgaria.

I've probabbly missed the second fight ot Pulev against Serdar Uysal, on our Bulgarian tv channels, and can't find it nowhere. Does someone have a link? Because you speak about boxing popularity in Bulgaria, I'm happy surprised that RING.BG TV broadcast records of big boxing events, almost every night at 23:00 o'clock. They also broadcast live Valuev - Haye, but skipped Pulev-Oloukin :patsch

[chauncy]

It is very interesting to read your thoughts on Pulev, chauncy! I really appreciate that you are sharing those things here. Thank you!

Anytime:thumbsup

[dominic1234]

He's fighting Isossa Mondo(3-2) on the 20th of Feb and Danny Batchelder(25-7-1) on the 13th of March.

[Cachibatches]

He's fighting Isossa Mondo(3-2) on the 20th of Feb and Danny Batchelder(25-7-1) on the 13th of March.
Wow. I mean, these guys are a step down, but just the frequency with which he is fighting.

[kirilpp]

Wow. I mean, these guys are a step down, but just the frequency with which he is fighting.

Yesterday Pulev won against Isossa Mondo with RTD 3 [8]. Has someone watched that fight, to share any details?

[Ivo]

Maybe someone from Belgium watched it? Was that event broadcasted?

[ogii3]

:happy:happy:happy
Another classy win !!! Pretty Sure will enter in Top 25 of Boxrec's ranks and for sure must enter in Top 15 in some of the recognized ranks.

[Vysotsky]

Agreed. Pulev is very smart, and I have also sparred Chugaev, and he is very good, but doesn't quite set up his combinations the same Pulev. Thats were Pulev will do great, setting his opponents up for the ko. Most guys just look for it. He set it up and plants everything and is very accurate.:D
I think this guy will go far.:thumbsup

When Kubrat first went pro word was the he didn't have much power but he seems to have shown some good pop, Page (i believe) said he was shocked at how strong Pulev was and today the account i read said he landed a massive shot on Batcherfield and showed good power.

Does he have some decent power?

[ogii3]

I just saw the fight. Was a one punch - upercut to the chin. Batchelder's legs couldn't resist and went down. He stand up before 10, but didn't look in condititon to continue the fight. The American started in very fast tempo and was working well in the first, but seems to get respected after some of Kubrat's shots.
Pulev put up some weights to his body. During his amateur days he was 4-5 kg lighter.

[kirilpp]

I guess someone from boxpress is going to upload the fight somewhere in internet. Yes I think Kubrat put up around 2kg on every next fight :)

[Cachibatches]

I just saw the fight. Was a one punch - upercut to the chin. Batchelder's legs couldn't resist and went down. He stand up before 10, but didn't look in condititon to continue the fight. The American started in very fast tempo and was working well in the first, but seems to get respected after some of Kubrat's shots.
Pulev put up some weights to his body. During his amateur days he was 4-5 kg lighter.
If Pulev has one flaw, it seems that he always aeems to start slow.

Other than that, man, the guy is big, a master boxer, and is showing power.

[dominic1234]

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He probably would have been able to carry on, but the uppercut was a thing of beauty.

[Cachibatches]

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He probably would have been able to carry on, but the uppercut was a thing of beauty.
Thanks.

[Nosbor]

I have been getting cought up on him the past couple days. He has definitely exceeded my expectations. Liiks very promising.

The Bulgars have a solid amateur program, I am glad to see that they have a strong guy in the pros. hopefully others follow.

[Ivo]

Yes, it was a beautiful short uppercut. Yes, Danny could have continued but not for long. He was not stable on his feet. It seems to me that Kubrat has improved since his debut. I hope that Sauerland will keep him busy and we will see him in the next event.

[ogii3]

Next match 24 April in Denmark on Kessler-Froch gala :)
Stay in touch for the name of the opponent

[kirilpp]

Next match 24 April in Denmark on Kessler-Froch gala :)
Stay in touch for the name of the opponent

We are waiting for :hey

[luckylefty]

He definalety has great potential,just what the HW division needs.:happy

[desoe]

They're talking about Pulev vs. Platov again ...

[kirilpp]

Kubrat Pulev vs. Oleg Platov on Saturday 1th May

Now we have it officially announced in Box Rec:
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[Aint no stoppin]

Kubrat Pulev vs. Oleg Platov on Saturday 1th May

Now we have it officially announced in Box Rec:
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this is a fight i wanna see badly! Hopefully platov doesnt pull out like always!

[desoe]

.. and i guess the shitty bulgarian tv channels won't broadcast it again :mad:

[Brickhaus]

I've done a writeup comparing Pulev and Helenius and what I think their future prospects are. It's available at [Only registered and activated users can see links] Feel free to comment here, or to register for the site for free and post comments there. Hopefully these guys will start getting more exposure in the US soon.

[Alcaldemb]

Pulev has progressed very nicely. At 6'4.5" and 240lbs he has the height and size to contend with any heavyweight. He is very skilled with a great punch selection, and has better power than originally thought. I really hope he can move himself towards a title shot by 29 or 30, because he seems to have enormous potential.

[Ivo]

Any news in regard of his next fight?

Initially, it was reported that he would face Platov on May 1. Later news indicated that the fight had failed.

[Brickhaus]

No word on the opponent. According to this interview ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), he's still fighting in Germany on May 1 but doesn't know who he's fighting or where.

[desoe]

One of the bulgarian newspapers wrote yesterday that Pulev is going to fight Evgeny Orlov next.

They even found him for a comment, so I guess it's true.

[Cachibatches]

One of the bulgarian newspapers wrote yesterday that Pulev is going to fight Evgeny Orlov next.

They even found him for a comment, so I guess it's true.
A little dissapoining, but given the frequency with which he is fighting, he has to take what is available, I guess.

Besides, The Molecule from hell has been in there with other up and comers and is a good measuring stick.

[kirilpp]

One of the bulgarian newspapers wrote yesterday that Pulev is going to fight Evgeny Orlov next.

They even found him for a comment, so I guess it's true.

It's true.

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[ogii3]

New change, according to boxrec - Once again Platov is up for the fight. Hope the third time will be lucky and Ukrainian will not drop out.

[kirilpp]

:patsch I'm wondering if they planned for that....but doesn't matter because that fight will be much better than the previous listed vs. Orlov. :good

[dominic1234]

It's changed again and now he's back fighting Evgeny Orlov. :patsch

I think Oleg Platov now needs to fuck off and retire.

[sneg]

From Platov blogs:

Germans have offered 6-round fight with Kubrat Pulev for 1st May, explaining to those that on 10-raund fight it is not ready and will be ready only on June, 5th. Yesterday again talked with manager Ivajlo, fight is planned for June 5th though it for me not so favourable, in respect of money and reiting but as Germans of more favourable fight do not offer I will box with Pulev

[ogii3]

From Platov blogs:

Germans have offered 6-round fight with Kubrat Pulev for 1st May, explaining to those that on 10-raund fight it is not ready and will be ready only on June, 5th. Yesterday again talked with manager Ivajlo, fight is planned for June 5th though it for me not so favourable, in respect of money and reiting but as Germans of more favourable fight do not offer I will box with Pulev

Would you please share the link of Platov's blog?
Thanks

[sneg]

Would you please share the link of Platov's blog?
Thanks

Please

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[Ivo]

Who is that manager Ivaylo?

[ogii3]

Who is that manager Ivaylo?
Gotzev, there are together since the end of 2008

Thanks Sneg

[Fullhouse]

Weigh-In:

Orlov - 143,3 kg ~ 315,9 lbs
Pulev - 111,1 kg ~ 244,9 lbs

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[kirilpp]

Gotzev, there are together since the end of 2008

Thanks Sneg

We know that, but I am asking If Gotzev is his manager, then why Platov is in the Sauerland boxer list?
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[Nosbor]

I sure as heck like what I have been seeing out of Kubrat. It will be very impressive if he can KO/TKO Orlov. However, Gotsev is a poison apple.

[Боксёр]

Short interview with Kurbat's opponent , he wasn't very confident but I cant blame him . He said he did spar with Kubrat before in Berlin . Will fly to Poland after the bout with Kubrat to spar with Albert Sosnowski .

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[Fullhouse]

Good fight by Pulev. Orlov got DQ´d in round 7 for clinching, throwing an elbow and hitting at the back of Pulev´s head some times. Pulev got a cut from this elbow, but was clearly the better fighter.

[Боксёр]

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[desoe]

What a wanker.

[Ivo]

I’ve just finished watching the Kubrat Pulev vs. Evegeny Orlov fight. It was not a walk in the park for Pulev. He fought a very awkward opponent. Orlov is a tall fighter even though he is kind of soft. I have watched selected rounds of his fight with Pianeta. It went in a similar way.

[Ivo]

Gotzev, there are together since the end of 2008

Thanks Sneg


I thought that Ivaylo Gotzev worked with US based fighters only, ogii3. Besides, Wilfred Sauerland is not only a promoter but also a manager. He did not want to manage Pulev?

[ogii3]

I thought that Ivaylo Gotzev worked with US based fighters only, ogii3. Besides, Wilfred Sauerland is not only a promoter but also a manager. He did not want to manage Pulev?

Gotzev likes to work with some fighters from former Soviet Union. His first big sign was Vasily Jirov back in 96, he worked also with Steve Johnston during this time and Li'l but bad was the first world champ of Gotzev's stable.

Gotzev sign a managerial deal around mid 2008 with Oleg Platov. During this time Platov still had some months with his contract with Sauerland. Maybe the last mach of Oleg under managerial contract with Sauerland was on the undercard of Valuev-Holy in December 2008 in Zurich. After that i think his contract was over and he fought just once in Germani in the middle of 2009. Some injuries cost a lot to Platov and this is the reason that he didn;t went to USA, where Gotzev is based.

Right now Ivailo Gotzev moved from Los Angeles to Las Vegas, where he build entierly new gym. One of his coaches is Hasim Rahman's brother - Ibn. Among some of his fighters are Ismail Syllah, who made great impact in his last fight stopping impressivly Daniel Judah and challenging Bernard Hopkins right after.

His old guys Sam Peter and Vasily Jirov also are with him. Gotzev sign a contract with Shannon Briggs. I am not sure if Liakhovich's contract is still valid, but i think their cooperation is over.

About working only with USA bassed fighters, Gotzev as all the others boxing managers are always seraching for a class. One of his laters signs are great Kazah fighter and former amateur star Genady Golovkin, who developed himself under Universum as a pro fighter. I saw Golovkin month ago in Las Vegas and right now he is based there.

Considering Pulev, there were talks sinse last few years. Gotzev was in Milano for world championships to deal with Kubrat, but as all we know the Bulgarian choose another direction.

About Orlov's fight, the Russian is very tough to fight with. Knows to use his size very well. Pulev was far away from his best, but it's not easy to adjust every week your game plan to a different fighter with so much changes of the plan. The best think IMO from Orlov's fight is the first bloud that Pulev dropped in pro ranks. The cut is part of the game.

[kirilpp]

Kubrat started slow in the first couple of rounds as usual, but after the 4th when he was pushed down from Orlov, he started in different way, and in the 5th and 6th rounds he managed to threw some good combinations, but Orlov ruined his game with clinches and unallowded prioms.

[sasho]

Kubrat fought like amateur.He needs to change his trainer Mihail Takov immediately and to start with another trainer in Germnany.If he fights the same way with Platov , Platov will KO him for sure.This was his 8th fight and his style is absolutely the same as in his first fight.

[Mendoza]

Kubrat fought like amateur.He needs to change his trainer Mihail Takov immediately and to start with another trainer in Germnany.If he fights the same way with Platov , Platov will KO him for sure.This was his 8th fight and his style is absolutely the same as in his first fight.

Pulev basic style is fine. This is only his 8th pro fight. He will show some technical imporvement. I think Pulev better watch his weight. He would be better off in the mid 230's. At least I think so.

[SuzieQ49]

God I hope this guy sends Vitali Klitschko back into retirement. Only a couple more years, and he will pick vitali apart.

[kirilpp]

Pulev vs. Platov is listed in BoxRec again

[Fullhouse]

Pulev vs. Platov is listed in BoxRec again

Yes, they´ll definitely fight on the Sylvester-Karmazin/Cunningham-Ross undercard. Hernandez will fight, too.

The main-events should be live on ARD. Pulev-Platov and Hernandez-tba probably on delay. Great card!

[bodhi]

Yes, they´ll definitely fight on the Sylvester-Karmazin/Cunningham-Ross undercard. Hernandez will fight, too.

The main-events should be live on ARD. Pulev-Platov and Hernandez-tba probably on delay. Great card!

Great card!! I really look forward for this.

[sasho]

It is too early for him to fight Platov.I hope that he can outbox him.

[Ivo]

Yes, they´ll definitely fight on the Sylvester-Karmazin/Cunningham-Ross undercard. Hernandez will fight, too.

The main-events should be live on ARD. Pulev-Platov and Hernandez-tba probably on delay. Great card!


:happy:happy:happy

[boxeo#1]

Why the hell is he still on the AIBA ranking?! :huh:nut

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[ogii3]

Why the hell is he still on the AIBA ranking?! :huh:nut

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Cos he's current European amateur super heavyweight champion :)

[boxeo#1]

Cos he's current European amateur super heavyweight champion :)

He is a pro since months. Very odd imo:nut

[SuzieQ49]

How many more years before this guy will be ready to give Vitali a spanking? Two?

[Armo_Ruski]

How many more years before this guy will be ready to give Vitali a spanking? Two?


as far as vitali, 2 years sounds bout right, but im not so sure david haye could beat this guy right now. :deal:bbb:thumbsup:hey

[ogii3]

The match with Platov is once again off ! Oleg will fight with Gbenga Olukun. Kubrat Pulev will take some rest and according to some sources close to him will fight once again in September!

[luckylefty]

i think the future lies between he and boystov.the other heavies are beyond their prime.:p

[Brickhaus]

i think the future lies between he and boystov.the other heavies are beyond their prime.:p

What about Helenius?

[marciano1952]

Any new news on Pulev?....Anyword on when he might be back in the ring? Who it might be against?

[Ivo]

Any new news on Pulev?....Anyword on when he might be back in the ring? Who it might be against?

The word is that Pulev is looking for a September return. Nothing on his opponent. He attended an MMA card in Bulgaria a few days ago.

[Zacker]

The Platov fight is scheduled again, on the undercard of Froch - Abraham.

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[Aint no stoppin]

The Platov fight is scheduled again, on the undercard of Froch - Abraham.

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man is this fight finally happen? dont get your hopes high!

[Alcaldemb]

man is this fight finally happen? dont get your hopes high!

I hope it happens. I expect a solid showing and great 9th win for Pulev.

[Sakura]

i think the future lies between he and boystov.the other heavies are beyond their prime.:p
Helenius is the best candidate to become the world champion.What I've heard, so at least sparring Pulev had Receiving party and again boystov is too small to become real threat to Helenius

[badr_hari]

Helenius is the best candidate to become the world champion.What I've heard, so at least sparring Pulev had Receiving party and again boystov is too small to become real threat to Helenius

Helenius is TOO slow, he will never be top10 material, let alone champion.
Pulev and Boytsov are good, but NOT great, i just don't see them as champions one day.

[Aint no stoppin]

In my book helenius beats pulev clearly!
Boytsov vs helenius would be interesting!
but they wont fight i guess!

[Sakura]

Helenius is TOO slow, he will never be top10 material, let alone champion.
Pulev and Boytsov are good, but NOT great, i just don't see them as champions one day.

Helenius is not really slow, but he seems to slow down the pace of between perhaps due to stamina. Pulev is actually rumored to have been lose sparring to Helenius

[Mendoza]

Helenius is TOO slow, he will never be top10 material, let alone champion.
Pulev and Boytsov are good, but NOT great, i just don't see them as champions one day.

Helenius is not that slow. He is faster than say Valuev who was in the top ten, and in my opinion hits much harder than Valuev does.

I have yet to see fighters easily move out of the way of Helnius punches. With his size, accuracy, and power, Helenius is a top level prospect.

While neither Pulev, Boystov or Helenius is as good as say Klitschko, somebody has to be champ when they eventually retire.

I would also add Glaskov in the conversation as one to watch.

[Goodhill]

Who´s Glaskov? Never heard of him.

[Ivo]

Who´s Glaskov? Never heard of him.


Vyacheslav Glazkov. It is funny but I cannot find him on boxrec.

[Ivo]

I got it.

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[Goodhill]

Thanks

Is German Titov using Hlaskov (Olympic bronze etc in amateur boxing) as a journeyman?

First fight against 15-5-1 -list opponent for example?
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Guy appears to be fast and promising.

Thanks for the tip IVO

[Cachibatches]

Helenius is TOO slow, he will never be top10 material, let alone champion.
Pulev and Boytsov are good, but NOT great, i just don't see them as champions one day.
With his wins over Gammer, Bidenko, Brewster, Olukun and Greg Tony, he is on the cup of being on the top ten already.

AS for his speed, he is certainly no slower than Valuev or Peter, and a great deal more talented and powerul than either.

[Mendoza]

Thanks

Is German Titov using Hlaskov (Olympic bronze etc in amateur boxing) as a journeyman?

First fight against 15-5-1 -list opponent for example?
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Guy appears to be fast and promising.

Thanks for the tip IVO


Yes, that was who I was referring too. Glazkov was the #2 super heavyweight in the world, capable of giving Cammarelle a good fight.

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[Sakura]

With his wins over Gammer, Bidenko, Brewster, Olukun and Greg Tony, he is on the cup of being on the top ten already.

AS for his speed, he is certainly no slower than Valuev or Peter, and a great deal more talented and powerul than either.

Helenius would now take almost all the scalps top10 fighters

[Goodhill]

Sakura let´s be real about this (you must be finnish too)

How do you think that Helenius coud beat at this moment (next fight) from these top ten fighters (source-boxrec):

Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
David Haye
T. Adamek
Ruslan Chagaev
Alexander Povetkin
Nikolay Valuev
Tony Thompson
Eddie Chambers

[IntentionalButt]

The only people on that list as slow as Helenius are Valuev and maybe Thompson - so maybe either of them. :yep

(I know, the question wasn't directed at me :oops:)

[Sakura]

Sakura let´s be real about this (you must be finnish too)

How do you think that Helenius coud beat at this moment (next fight) from these top ten fighters (source-boxrec):

Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
David Haye
T. Adamek
Ruslan Chagaev
Alexander Povetkin
Nikolay Valuev
Tony Thompson
Eddie Chambers


Very beatle
Thomas adamek
Ruslan Chagaev
Alexander Povetkin
Nikolay Valuev
Tony Thompson
Eddie Chambers[/quote]



Harder fights:
Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
David Haye

[Sakura]

Very beatle
Thomas adamek Too small
Ruslan Chagaev too small
Alexander Povetkin Too small
Nikolay Valuev Too slow
Tony Thompson Maybe hardest fight because of similar size
Eddie ChambersToo small



Harder fights:
Wladimir Klitschko wlad chin will be seriously teste
Vitali Klitschko Vitali is coming too old
David Haye China chin and size edge to helenius

[Sakura]

very beatable
Thomas adamek Too small
Ruslan Chagaev too small
Alexander Povetkin Too small
Nikolay Valuev Too slow
Tony Thompson Maybe hardest fight because of similar size
Eddie Chambers


Harder fights:
Wladimir Klitschko wlad chin will be seriously teste
Vitali Klitschko Vitali is coming too old
David Haye China chin and size edge to helenius[/quote]

[hungover]

I like Helenius as a prospect and all, but I think Adamek, Chambers and Povetkin outbox him currently

[Cachibatches]

Pulev-Platov, October 2. We just have to get Platov to the arena this time.

[Escopeta]

Pulev-Platov, October 2. We just have to get Platov to the arena this time.

Pulev was the one who wasnt in the last time.. :lol:
Is the card still on after Froch vs Abraham felt apart?

[ogii3]

The card is off. Will be rescheduled for the second part of November.

[Ivo]

Damn, that's very frustrating. This Platov v Pulev fight has been discussed for about an year already.

[ogii3]

There are talks that Pulev-Platov will be rescheduled for 30 October Sylvester-Oral card. It's very possible also that Pulev will get a warm up fight with some weaker opponent on the same date just to be keep active. And then at the end of November or earlier December to be on the ring against Platov once again in Monte Carlo on Froch-Abraham card

[Goodhill]

There are talks that Pulev-Platov will be rescheduled for 30 October Sylvester-Oral card. It's very possible also that Pulev will get a warm up fight with some weaker opponent on the same date just to be keep active. And then at the end of November or earlier December to be on the ring against Platov once again in Monte Carlo on Froch-Abraham card

Monte Carlo is off for AA-Froch fight but we´d love to see Pulev-Platov here in Helsinki (Finland) on 27.11.2010 (see ***********).

[ogii3]

There are talks that Pulev-Platov will be rescheduled for 30 October Sylvester-Oral card. It's very possible also that Pulev will get a warm up fight with some weaker opponent on the same date just to be keep active. And then at the end of November or earlier December to be on the ring against Platov once again in Monte Carlo on Froch-Abraham card
Now it's confirm for 30 October Pulev vs Platov. But as we know this fight went so much on and off, so i am starting to think that it will never happends :bbb

[smbsmd]

Now it's confirm for 30 October Pulev vs Platov. But as we know this fight went so much on and off, so i am starting to think that it will never happends :bbb
that fight has been confirmed plenty of times, dont believe it, till it happens.:-(

[ludwig]

Oct 30 vrs. Dominick Guinn.

This should be a great fight. Sauerland must think very highly of Pulev to be putting him in with Guinn on such short notice.

[ishy]

Platov-Pulev must be jinxed :lol:

Guinn is a good fight, Guinn is on a bit of a run atm. Should be a good test.

[Cachibatches]

Oct 30 vrs. Dominick Guinn.

This should be a great fight. Sauerland must think very highly of Pulev to be putting him in with Guinn on such short notice.
Good enouhg. Guinn is a former contender and on a roll. Pulev should win handily.

[Ivo]

Wow, this is even a harder fight for Pulev. Guinn has tons of expirience at highest level.

Is it official? I mean nothing about this in Bulgarian media.

[kirilpp]

Yes, it's official in box rec.
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Ivo don't expect to learn what is going on from our media. Platov still doesn't have a new opponent, so I'm wondering what caused the change?

[Alcaldemb]

Yes, it's official in box rec.
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Ivo don't expect to learn what is going on from our media. Platov still doesn't have a new opponent, so I'm wondering what caused the change?

Solid fight. Guinn is a tough guy, he has fought better opposition than Platov, and though he has lost a fair number of times but has also blasted out some quality opponents. Solid chin, solid power, and a good skill set, this is a great test for Pulev.

[Ivo]

Yes, it's official in box rec.
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Ivo don't expect to learn what is going on from our media. Platov still doesn't have a new opponent, so I'm wondering what caused the change?

It is kind of funny that I get the news from this wonderful community while people who get paid for bringing the news in our country provide nothing basically.

I am worried about the lack of interest in general public in Bulgaria about Pulev's career. He needs a fan base.

What caused the change? It is a reasonable question. I want to know that too.

Anyways, I am looking forward to watching this fight. It is a real test for Pulev.

[Ivo]

According to Bulgarian media the fight with Platov is off because it is scheduled for 8 rounds but Platov's people insisted on 10 rounds.

[ludwig]

Wow that's kinda weak.

I see Povetkin is scheduled to be on the OCt 30 bill. I'm sure he'd be willing to go 10 rounds with Platov!

Or maybe Teddy would object...

[Aint no stoppin]

Wow that's kinda weak.

I see Povetkin is scheduled to be on the OCt 30 bill. I'm sure he'd be willing to go 10 rounds with Platov!

Or maybe Teddy would object...

no way in hell! paltov vs povetkin never gonna happen

[desoe]

I am worried about the lack of interest in general public in Bulgaria about Pulev's career. He needs a fan base. .

Well, he has 2000+ fans in Facebook already .. it's a good start :D

[Bigcat]

Dominick is very up for this fight, Pulev's people may try to pull some funny stuff over in Germany though like Povetkin did when we were imported for him in 2005. I told Dominick to keep an eye open for the crazy shit and not to stand for it.. round changin from 8 to 6.. and times etc being changed at last minute.. just Germany's way of making overseas feel a little un nerved... We signed for a 8 rounder against Sasha Povetkin and we were forced against the wall at last minute by HBO to box 6 because Povetkin only wanted 6 originally.. Pulev doesn't like pressure and when things dont go well in his favour he may crumble against Guinn. Dominick has only lost to decent fighters.. we (Friday Ahunanya) got a draw back a few years ago in Vegas..

[IntentionalButt]

The thread title can probably be edited by now...:yep

[Cachibatches]

Dominick is very up for this fight, Pulev's people may try to pull some funny stuff over in Germany though like Povetkin did when we were imported for him in 2005. I told Dominick to keep an eye open for the crazy shit and not to stand for it.. round changin from 8 to 6.. and times etc being changed at last minute.. just Germany's way of making overseas feel a little un nerved... We signed for a 8 rounder against Sasha Povetkin and we were forced against the wall at last minute by HBO to box 6 because Povetkin only wanted 6 originally.. Pulev doesn't like pressure and when things dont go well in his favour he may crumble against Guinn. Dominick has only lost to decent fighters.. we (Friday Ahunanya) got a draw back a few years ago in Vegas..
Probelm is Guinn has skills, but he often forgets to throw punches. He's got the power, but the pressure ain't always there.

[Ivo]

Dominick is very up for this fight, Pulev's people may try to pull some funny stuff over in Germany though like Povetkin did when we were imported for him in 2005. I told Dominick to keep an eye open for the crazy shit and not to stand for it.. round changin from 8 to 6.. and times etc being changed at last minute.. just Germany's way of making overseas feel a little un nerved... We signed for a 8 rounder against Sasha Povetkin and we were forced against the wall at last minute by HBO to box 6 because Povetkin only wanted 6 originally.. Pulev doesn't like pressure and when things dont go well in his favour he may crumble against Guinn. Dominick has only lost to decent fighters.. we (Friday Ahunanya) got a draw back a few years ago in Vegas..

You said that HBO forced you to box a 6 rounder. It has nothing to do with Germany.

[desoe]

Pulev wins. Decision.

[Cachibatches]

Pulev wins. Decision.
Nice. Did you see it? What was the character of the fight?

[desoe]

Sadly I did not :(

I just read a short article about it. It was saying that Guinn had a good start, but it seems he slowed down after the first two rounds. Pulev been more active till the end, so it's 80-72, 80-72, 79-73 for him.

[IntentionalButt]

Nice. Did you see it? What was the character of the fight?

Guinn threw pitifully few punches. Pulev spanked him with his jab but didn't show any good finishing instinct.

If he'd wanted it, Kubrat could have had the stoppage.

[Cachibatches]

Guinn threw pitifully few punches. Pulev spanked him with his jab but didn't show any good finishing instinct.

If he'd wanted it, Kubrat could have had the stoppage.
No worries. Pulev is a boxer first.

As for Guinn, I predicted this in post 219- though its no great accomplishment. Hell, I think we all knew it.

[Goodhill]

Dull fight. Maybe fight isn´t the right word to describe it - more like a sparring session in which Guinn was practicing his guard and how to get away from opponents shots. Pulev wasn´t trying to finish the fight.
Guinn was a disappointment - if don´t try to win a fight why fight at all.

[ogii3]

Dull fight. Maybe fight isn´t the right word to describe it - more like a sparring session in which Guinn was practicing his guard and how to get away from opponents shots. Pulev wasn´t trying to finish the fight.
Guinn was a disappointment - if don´t try to win a fight why fight at all.
Agree with you,
Guinn came just to take the money, Pulev don't needs such opponents, cos they do not give noting for the development of the Bulgarian. Kubrat played smartly, initiated some attacks, but found no sense in throwing all out for a stoppage.

[Escopeta]

That guy blasted out Bergeron not too long ago and then put on such a no show performance. I thought he´d be a decent test for Pulev but he only came to add his name to Pulevs record after some public sparring session. Very disappointing. Pulev looked like hes quite open for counterpunching but since he took it easy it doesnt necessarily mean much. Hes still one of the better HW prospects in my book well if 30 year old goes through as a prospect..

[lefe]

Today heavyweights are at their peak in 30s so he is HW prospect.He is already 21 on boxrec ratings in only 9 fights and 1 year.

[Ivo]

I was surprised that Guinn was so shy in his output. Every win adds something in my opinion. Guinn dismantled so easily Bergeron so it is like he suddenly lost his skills. Pulev just did not give him the chance to open up. He controlled the fight. Yet, I am worried about his weight because 112 kg is too high for him.

[Cachibatches]

I was surprised that Guinn was so shy in his output. Every win adds something in my opinion. Guinn dismantled so easily Bergeron so it is like he suddenly lost his skills. Pulev just did not give him the chance to open up. He controlled the fight. Yet, I am worried about his weight because 112 kg is too high for him.
Its typical Guinn. He just forgets to throw punches.

[Ivo]

According to a today's interview with Kubrat Pulev, his next opponent will be Oleg Platov. He confirms that the last time his people did not want a 10 rounder. He says he does not mind a 10 rounder now so it could be done. He thinks that his brother Tervel will sign with Sauerland sooner or later. He regrets that he did not turn pro earlier.

[IntentionalButt]

Attn: dominic1234

Please go into forum view, double-click on the space to the right of the thread title, and EDIT THE DAMN TITLE. :lol:

Pulev is 9-0 and you're still announcing his pro debut!! :patsch

[ogii3]

Next for Pulev will be 18 December against Oleg Platov (Once again:), this time 10 rounder!

[Cachibatches]

Next for Pulev will be 18 December against Oleg Platov (Once again:), this time 10 rounder!
I simply do not believe that this fight will ever take place.

[kirilpp]

I simply do not believe that this fight will ever take place.

They announced it on the national TV. I really believe it's going to happen this time :roll:

[ogii3]

18 Dec against Paolo Vidoz!

[Cachibatches]

18 Dec against Paolo Vidoz!
Sweet.

Would have been sweeter if it was Platov, which apprently got cancelled a fourth or fifth time (I've lost count).

Viidoz's best days are far behind him, but its still a cut above the last opponents of Povetikn, Dimintrenko, and Boystsov.

[ishy]

Vidoz is done and has being for a while. Not bad for a 10th fight though.

Platov-Pulev is jinxed :lol:

Anyone know what Pulev's handlers have planned for him in 2011? Hopefully a Euro title towards the end of the year.

[Armo_Ruski]

Vidoz is done and has being for a while. Not bad for a 10th fight though.

Platov-Pulev is jinxed :lol:

Anyone know what Pulev's handlers have planned for him in 2011? Hopefully a Euro title towards the end of the year.

i heard its pulev - platov sometime in 2011. :lol:

[Claus Holmen]

:lol:

Either he´s got big hands or she´s got small tits !

[desoe]

Either he´s got big hands or she´s got small tits !

Who, she? :hey

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[Cachibatches]

Love this guy.

After Vidoz this month, he's already got a TBA lined up for January!

And my compliments to his lovely girlfriend.

[desoe]

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[ludwig]

Pulev appears at Sauerland events, but is he a Sauerland fighter?

Looking forward to seeing Pulev in action again tomorrow.

[desoe]

He is under contract with Sauerland, yes. Until 2014, if I'm not wrong

[ogii3]

UD for Pulev, total domination!

[Goodhill]

Pulev looked a bit lazy and un-passionate in his 10th pro debut fight last night.

Pulev is fighting like in amateurs - just doing what needs to be done in order to get the points. This isn't too entertaining. I'd like to see him take on Chisora for example.

[Farmboxer]

Pulev has a good career ahead of him.

[ogii3]

The next opponent
22 January on Cunningam/Licina card
Yaroslav Zavorotnyy 14(12)-5(2)
Seems Sauerland wants to keep Pulev active in order to find some quality opponent to fight with for some title. Why not for EBU title in March/April if Dimitrenko got stripted