What Prime HW would you most want to see fight today

[box03]

Todays Heavywieghts in most peoples minds are not what they used to be, wether it be in toughness or skill level. Heres some fighters in there prime I would like to see comeback and dominate some of todays Heavywieghts. A prime Tyson, Foreman, Ali, Dempsey, and Louis.

[LennoxGOAT]

Tyson so they could see he was the greatest myth of all-time.

But probably Ali, as I would like to see if he would fight as a cruiser or as a heavy. If at heavy, I would like to see if his skills would be affected by being probably 230.

[jonesjrp4p1]

Tyson so they could see he was the greatest myth of all-time.

:lol: :lol: thanks for the laugh

[box03]

Tyson so they could see he was the greatest myth of all-time.

But probably Ali, as I would like to see if he would fight as a cruiser or as a heavy. If at heavy, I would like to see if his skills would be affected by being probably 230. At 6'3 I couldnt see Ali fighting at Cruiser, and I see a prime Tyson cleaning house against todays heavywieghts.

[El Bombasto]

Todays Heavywieghts in most peoples minds are not what they used to be, wether it be in toughness or skill level. Heres some fighters in there prime I would like to see comeback and dominate some of todays Heavywieghts. A prime Tyson, Foreman, Ali, Dempsey, and Louis.

if boxing hasn't advanced since those has-beens had their 15 minutes, what does that say about the sport?

[box03]

if boxing hasn't advanced since those has-beens had their 15 minutes, what does that say about the sport? Everyone I named would do well in todays era some better than others.

[bb251]

Frazier
Marciano
Dempsey
Foreman
Holmes

[Ambition_Def]

Ike Ibeabuchi. Just to see what never was.

[El Bombasto]

Frazier
Marciano
Dempsey
Foreman
Holmes

frazier is probably the most overrated heavyweight of all time (some tards have him in their top5 or top10) this guy is famous for losing 2/3 to ali. farzier would get murdered by any run of the mill heavyweight from 1980 on upwards.

[miamite]

if boxing hasn't advanced since those has-beens had their 15 minutes, what does that say about the sport? Ask yourself. One of those 'has-beens' came back during this generation while he was old and fat and won the lineal heavyweight championship.

[miamite]

frazier is probably the most overrated heavyweight of all time (some tards have him in their top5 or top10) this guy is famous for losing 2/3 to ali. farzier would get murdered by any run of the mill heavyweight from 1980 on upwards. I'm unsure whether you are serious or joking.

[The Whaler]

if boxing hasn't advanced since those has-beens had their 15 minutes, what does that say about the sport?
:huh

Your name fits you well.

[The Whaler]

Max Baer would be a cool choice.

[box03]

I'm unsure whether you are serious or joking. He has to be joking, Frazier was a tough fighter that threw some amazing hooks that would floor Wlad.

[El Bombasto]

I'm unsure whether you are serious or joking.

definitely serious, frazier stood right infront of you and threw wide, looping (and pretty slow and predictable) hooks. today's relatively massive heavyweights would destroy this guy ala george foreman (tko2, 1/22/1973; tko5 6/15/1976)

[miamite]

definitely serious, frazier stood right infront of you and threw wide, looping (and pretty slow and predictable) hooks. today's relatively massive heavyweights would destroy this guy ala george foreman (tko2, 1/22/1973; tko5 6/15/1976) Frazier didn't stand right in front of you to be hit. Frazier bobbed and weaved his way to get right up in your face, he swarmed on you and threw non stop punches both to the body and head. He was by no means slow. He was relentless in his attack, and beat you down through the course of a fight.

He didn't lose to Foreman because Foreman had 30 pounds of fat on him. He lost to him because Foreman was a guy who was not afraid to trade with Frazier, and was able to bomb him out because of his chin, strength, power, and willingness to trade hard and early.

It's pretty rediculous for you to use Fraziers two losses to Foreman as a means of reasoning that every heavyweight post 1980 would defeat him. It's because of their size? I comparing the top 10 heavyweights of the 1970's, and the top 10 of today and the difference in height was only 1 inch, and this included Valuev as an outlier for today's heavyweights.

Remember this, Frazier only ever lost to George Foreman and Muhammad Ali. He was an absolute beast, a relentless attacker who defeated many good heavyweights and the best version of Muhammad Ali(to be beaten).

This generation was littered with blown up middleweights defeating the top heavyweights, such as Roy Jones, James Toney and Chris Byrd. It's laughable to question Joe Frazier's ability to compete do to his size.

[El Bombasto]

Frazier didn't stand right in front of you to be hit. Frazier bobbed and weaved his way to get right up in your face, he swarmed on you and threw non stop punches both to the body and head. He was by no means slow. He was relentless in his attack, and beat you down through the course of a fight.

He didn't lose to Foreman because Foreman had 30 pounds of fat on him. He lost to him because Foreman was a guy who was not afraid to trade with Frazier, and was able to bomb him out because of his chin, strength, power, and willingness to trade hard and early.

It's pretty rediculous for you to use Fraziers two losses to Foreman as a means of reasoning that every heavyweight post 1980 would defeat him. It's because of their size? I comparing the top 10 heavyweights of the 1970's, and the top 10 of today and the difference in height was only 1 inch, and this included Valuev as an outlier for today's heavyweights.

Remember this, Frazier only ever lost to George Foreman and Muhammad Ali. He was an absolute beast, a relentless attacker who defeated many good heavyweights and the best version of Muhammad Ali(to be beaten).

This generation was littered with blown up middleweights defeating the top heavyweights, such as Roy Jones, James Toney and Chris Byrd. It's laughable to question Joe Frazier's ability to compete do to his size.

frazier's record against fighters 220+ is 0-2, he lost 100% of the time. the george foreman of that era was a rock-and-sock-robot with massive power. people only give frazier credit inorder to justify placing ali at no. 1 atg but the truth is that frazier was only an above average heavyweight in a mediocre era....prove me wrong biatch!:hi: :hi: :hi: :bbb :bbb :bbb

[kg0208]

I would want to see Joe Louis and Foreman. Perhaps Shavers for excitment value.

[brooklyn1550]

Larry Holmes, Joe Frazier, or Mike Tyson

[Lacyace]

Jimmy Young, George Chuvalo, and Earnie Shavers.

[Lacyace]

frazier's record against fighters 220+ is 0-2, he lost 100% of the time. the george foreman of that era was a rock-and-sock-robot with massive power. people only give frazier credit inorder to justify placing ali at no. 1 atg but the truth is that frazier was only an above average heavyweight in a mediocre era....prove me wrong biatch!:hi: :hi: :hi: :bbb :bbb :bbb

Never have I seen a post with so many inaccuracies. It's truly mindboggling. I have to find it funny that you probably think you made a good point. You probably typed this and smiled to yourself thinking, "Wow! I sure got him!" :verysad
Not at all.

[miamite]

frazier's record against fighters 220+ is 0-2, he lost 100% of the time. the george foreman of that era was a rock-and-sock-robot with massive power. people only give frazier credit inorder to justify placing ali at no. 1 atg but the truth is that frazier was only an above average heavyweight in a mediocre era....prove me wrong biatch!:hi: :hi: :hi: :bbb :bbb :bbb He fought and beat a number of fighters who fought above 220 such as Joe Bugner, Ron Sander, and Buster Mathis, and of course Muhammad Ali.

Again, i'm still waiting for your response to my previous point that questions your ranking of the Ali's era so low. If an old, fat George Foreman came back during this generation to become the lineal heavyweight championship of the world, then what does that say about this and his era?

[El Bombasto]

He fought and beat a number of fighters who fought above 220 such as Joe Bugner, Ron Sander, and Buster Mathis, and of course Muhammad Ali.

Again, i'm still waiting for your response to my previous point that questions your ranking of the Ali's era so low. If an old, fat George Foreman came back during this generation to become the lineal heavyweight championship of the world, then what does that say about this and his era?

ali weighed 215 when frazier beat his ass...do some research before you, and that biatch that posted before you, respond to my posts. and, if you have an issue with what i have stated, provide some evidence to back-up your point...

[miamite]

ali weighed 215 when frazier beat his ass...do some research before you, and that biatch that posted before you, respond to my posts. and, if you have an issue with what i have stated, provide some evidence to back-up your point... I never resort to name-calling during arguements, but simply put, you are truly a dumb cunt. Fraziers defeat of the best version of Ali, while they were both in their primes is irrevelant simply because in the third fight(while they were both, and especially Joe, were washed up) Ali weighed above 220! Brilliant.

[miamite]

Frazier defeated a 221 pound Bugner. Is that good enough? Of course though, the level of competition doesn't matter, but simply because of the fact that the opponent was above 220 it is a great win for Frazier.

[El Bombasto]

I never resort to name-calling during arguements, but simply put, you are truly a dumb cunt. Fraziers defeat of the best version of Ali, while they were both in their primes is irrevelant simply because in the third fight(while they were both, and especially Joe, were washed up) Ali weighed above 220! Brilliant.

and yet, you still did.....

[miamite]

Many of the belt holders of this period were fighters of Fraziers size in Chris Byrd, James Toney, and Roy Jones. In fact all those were blown up lighter weights. So Joe Frazier's weight is not an size.... prove me wrong biatch!:hi::hi::hi::bbb:bbb:bbb


I can do it too.

[miamite]

and yet, you still did..... *rarely

[El Bombasto]

Frazier defeated a 221 pound Bugner. Is that good enough? Of course though, the level of competition doesn't matter, but simply because of the fact that the opponent was above 220 it is a great win for Frazier.

beating joe bugner is a great win?....well, i guess so, if you're a major scrub...but, you're correct smok'n joe was 3-2 angainst fighters weighing 220+...boy, do i feel embarassed.....

[Sakura]

He fought and beat a number of fighters who fought above 220 such as Joe Bugner, Ron Sander, and Buster Mathis, and of course Muhammad Ali.

Again, i'm still waiting for your response to my previous point that questions your ranking of the Ali's era so low. If an old, fat George Foreman came back during this generation to become the lineal heavyweight championship of the world, then what does that say about this and his era?

Mel Turnbow 6'3 231lb 6-3-0
Don Smith 6'3 237lb 8-4-1
Buster Mathis 6'3 245lb 23-0-0
Joe Bugner 6'4 221lb 43-5-1
Muhammed Ali 6'3 224lb 48-2-0
George Foreman 6'31/2 224lb 41-1-0
Floyd Cummings 6'2 223lb 15-1-0

wlads is fight 38 times bigger than 220 lb

[hmi]

I want to see Ali fight Tyson in both their primes. I think Ali will sleep in this fight.

[Claypole]

I want to see Ali fight Tyson in both their primes. I think Ali will sleep in this fight.If Buster Douglas could beat Mike Tyson, then I'm sure Ali would be able find a way to win. Tyson was only considered great because of the way he dealt with 2nd raters.
All the top guys from the past would clean up in todays screwed up heavyweight division.

[McGrain]

Charles "Sonny" Liston.