If Lennox Lewis came out of retirement.....

[compukiller]

...would that make all the belts meaningless?? Would he automatically be considered "THE Undisputed" champ at heavy???

Remember, he never lost his title in the ring......

[Mistadobalina]

no. that by far is the dumbest logic I've heard on these boards.


dumb...like a fox?

[compukiller]

I'm just askin'....

[C Money]

No he doesnt make the current belts meaningless, due to inactivity.


Yet the only really relevant fight? Would be a Vitaly rematch:good

Lennox proved all he needed to prove during his day.

Anyone who talks about Ruiz or Byrd as unfulfilled challnges??
Talks out their ass:good

I'd still to this very day favor Lennox in such matchups though theyARE TOTALLY IRRELEVANT TO PRIME LEWIS.

If they were all that?? They would have won their respective bouts and challenged when it was relevant:yep

[TBooze]

...would that make all the belts meaningless?? Would he automatically be considered "THE Undisputed" champ at heavy???

Remember, he never lost his title in the ring......

At the moment Lewis would be world champion, but at 43, he would not be around for long.

To a degree Lewis is the reason boxing is in a mess. He failed as retiring champion to do his job and anoint a fight to find his successor.

[barneyrub]

At the moment Lewis would be world champion, but at 43, he would not be around for long.

To a degree Lewis is the reason boxing is in a mess. He failed as retiring champion to do his job and anoint a fight to find his successor.
Everone annointed Vitali as THE MAN but when he retired to avoid Rahman chaos ensued.

[kg0208]

At the moment Lewis would be world champion, but at 43, he would not be around for long.

To a degree Lewis is the reason boxing is in a mess. He failed as retiring champion to do his job and anoint a fight to find his successor.

How was he supposed to do this? He retired after beating the #1 contender. Can't ask for much more.

[TBooze]

How was he supposed to do this? He retired after beating the #1 contender. Can't ask for much more.

He says:

"I think fighter A and fighter B fight each other, then I would consider the winner my successor..."

[TBooze]

How was he supposed to do this? He retired after beating the #1 contender. Can't ask for much more.

Marciano beat Moore and retired, but Moore still had enough credability to legitmately deserve shot at the vacant championship with Patterson.

Vitali was a still a big factor in the division despite the Lewis defeat...

[kg0208]

He says:

"I think fighter A and fighter B fight each other, then I would consider the winner my successor..."

They don't need him to do that....they could do that on their own right?

Didn't they when Vitali fought Sanders? How does this fall on Lewis?

[kg0208]

Marciano beat Moore and retired, but Moore still had enough credability to legitmately deserve shot at the vacant championship with Patterson.

Vitali was a still a big factor in the division despite the Lewis defeat...

Marciano had nothing to do with Moore's credibility. That was done on his own merit.

[TBooze]

They don't need him to do that....they could do that on their own right?

Didn't they when Vitali fought Sanders? How does this fall on Lewis?

Who is they? It was Lewis' championship no one has in this day and age more credability than him in deciding his successor.

[kg0208]

Who is they? It was Lewis' championship no one has in this day and age more credability than him in deciding his successor.
They as in the people who grant the championship matches. They as in those who rank the contenders.

I don't get where you are coming from. Lewis couldn't make a title match. That's someone else's job. Lewis isn't supposed to name a successor, someone is supposed to step up and take that mantle. That's not on Lewis, thats on the HW of this generation.

[TBooze]

Marciano had nothing to do with Moore's credibility. That was done on his own merit.

Moore's effort against Marciano was a plank of evidence to show he could possibly be the Heavyweight Champion of the World in an era without the Brockton Blockbuster.

[kg0208]

Moore's effort against Marciano was a plank of evidence to show he could possibly be the Heavyweight Champion of the World in an era without the Brockton Blockbuster.

And that was on Moore. Not Marciano. Marciano had nothing to do with Moore's effort.

Lewis gave Vitali his shot. What Vitali did after it is on him, not Lewis.

[TBooze]

And that was on Moore. Not Marciano. Marciano had nothing to do with Moore's effort.

Lewis gave Vitali his shot. What Vitali did after it is on him, not Lewis.

What?:huh

[kg0208]

What?:huh
Lewis cannot name his successor. Anyones success after Lewis' retirement is on them.

This mess isn't Lewis'.

[TBooze]

Lewis cannot name his successor. Anyones success after Lewis' retirement is on them.

This mess isn't Lewis'.

Lewis has the most credability when it comes to naming his successor. The president has been set with Jeffries, Lewis could of and can still clear this mess up by endorsing a fight of succession.

[kg0208]

Lewis has the most credability when it comes to naming his successor. The president has been set with Jeffries, Lewis could of and can still clear this mess up by endorsing a fight of succession.

So what if Lewis says his successor is the winner of Maskaev-Peter? That fine by you?

[TBooze]

So what if Lewis says his successor is the winner of Maskaev-Peter? That fine by you?

Yep, if that is what he wants. It would be better than Jeffries! He named Jack Root and Marvin Hart to fight each other:scaredas:. It does not have be the two best fighters, boxing sadly very often does not work like that.

[C Money]

Look, I had mad resoect for Lennox, but that means shit NOW!!!!!


Wlad is the leading candidate and all others are forming a line:good

[kg0208]

Yep, if that is what he wants. It would be better than Jeffries! He named Jack Root and Marvin Hart to fight each other:scaredas:

So then the recognized #1 HW in the world would be pushed aside, and you're in favor of that? Simply cuz the old retired champion thinks someone else should be his successor?

[TBooze]

So then the recognized #1 HW in the world would be pushed aside, and you're in favor of that? Simply cuz the old retired champion thinks someone else should be his successor?

Yes; Jack Johnson was the #1 Heavyweight in 1905, but he did not get a shot.

If the #1 contender (I presume you mean Wlad) can get the public sympathy, the hypothetical champion would look at the financial reward of a such fight and decide weather he wants it... Public pressure may put the fight together anyway.

[kg0208]

Yes; Jack Johnson was the #1 Heavyweight in 1905, but he did not get a shot.

If the #1 contender (I presume you mean Wlad) can get the public sympathy, the hypothetical champion would look the financial reward of a such fight and decide weather he wants it... public pressure may put the fight together anyway.

It hasn't yet. It was WRONG that Johnson didn't get a shot. Why would you want that to happen again?

[TBooze]

It hasn't yet. It was WRONG that Johnson didn't get a shot. Why would you want that to happen again?

Because we would have a Champion, an icon, again in boxings most important division, something we have been lacking for three years now.

[kg0208]

Because we would have a Champion, an icon, again in boxings most important division, something we have been lacking for three years now.
Public opinion is that Wlad is the best HW. If Lewis declared someone else his successor, no one would care. They wouldn't change there opinion. An old retired champion cannot in this era, declare someone his successor and everyone go along with it.

[PeterNielsen70]

he would be too fat, old and lacy to possess the weapons to become a champ. again. :bbb

[TBooze]

Public opinion is that Wlad is the best HW. If Lewis declared someone else his successor, no one would care. They wouldn't change there opinion. An old retired champion cannot in this era, declare someone his successor and everyone go along with it.

I think he can. And although Wlad is probably considered the best fighter at Heavyweight, I suspect it is as the largest minority, thus as the last claimant, Lewis is the most credible source to declare a new champion in this era.

Lewis is not stupid, I suspect he would have Wlad as one of his choosen fighters...

[jisi]

Lennox Lewis was a great Champion and has nothing to proof. He is a very intelligent man and will stay retired and enjoy his life.