Haye/Valuev venue announced!

[alba]

Its in Germany ,and it's in Nuremburg!at some ice hockey arena,only holding bout ten thousand!obv haye iaint the big draw people would have you think

[Little Tyson]

He shouldnt pull out of fights every minute :lol:. Its alryt once hes knocked out Valuev and beats Klitschko (1) he can then fight the other at Wembley next year and sell it out.

[Dan684]

Haye is a very big draw :good He can only fill the stadium arena given to him.

[ishy]

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[stork]

A fight Vs Valuev in Germany.


Haye gonna need a knockout then.

[alba]

the thing is sauerland know there market quite well;there experienced propmoters and if they thought that if haye could sell more they would have picked a bigger venue ...and they have gone for a modest 10 thousand seater venue

[ishy]

Only the Klits can sell 30,000+ in Germany.

[The Kurgan]

Do they ever have motor racing in Nuremberg?

Anyone know?

[achillesthegreat]

LOL. 10,000 is now considered minor. In America, you sell out 10 to 15 thousand and you are quite big business.

[Losfer_Words]

Only the Klits can sell 30,000+ in Germany.

Metallica and Iron Maiden can sell 100,000 plus:deal:good. That's neither here or there on a boxing forum, though:lol:. This is a dissapointment, IMO. I'd much rather they went back to Finland and gave the fans what they missed out on before or set up the fight somewhere else in Europe. Now, if it goes to points (which I expect), Haye might be fucked:?.

[Fat Tony]

Do they ever have motor racing in Nuremberg?

Anyone know?

Formula1 races took or take place at the Nürburgring which doesn't have anything to do with Nürnberg.

The fight won't be sold out unless 3,000 or 4,000 Brits will fly to Germany.

[JonOli]

10 000 is a decent size in these economically hard times

I still can't picture these two in the ring together though; the odd couple.

[alba]

LOL. 10,000 is now considered minor. In America, you sell out 10 to 15 thousand and you are quite big business.

well when you consider his last fight,sold over sixty thousand and people were saying that it was due to haye,not to the fact that the klit's are quite popular in Germany ,its quite a comedown a wee bit imho.

but good luck to haye ...

[stork]

Metallica and Iron Maiden can sell 100,000 plus:deal:good. That's neither here or there on a boxing forum, though:lol:. This is a dissapointment, IMO. I'd much rather they went back to Finland and gave the fans what they missed out on before or set up the fight somewhere else in Europe. Now, if it goes to points (which I expect), Haye might be fucked:?.

Hell even david hasslehoff could sell that in germany.:lol:

[achillesthegreat]

well when you consider his last fight,sold over sixty thousand and people were saying that it was due to haye,not to the fact that the klit's are quite popular in Germany ,its quite a comedown a wee bit imho.

but good luck to haye ...

only a fool would think that either klit single handily did that. they are popular but they were fighting people that didn't interest the public. when haye whipped up a storm they started lining the streets to see the big mouth get shut up. haye was appearing on german tv saying he is gonna whoop them, he got in wlads face, he wore the t-shirt with the ripped head. if none of that made an effect then why the klits waste their time facing someone who isn't as heavyweight proven as alot of boxers. haye made business sense for them and that is the whole reason they BOTH wanted a piece of him.

[alba]

only a fool would think that either klit single handily did that. they are popular but they were fighting people that didn't interest the public. when haye whipped up a storm they started lining the streets to see the big mouth get shut up. haye was appearing on german tv saying he is gonna whoop them, he got in wlads face, he wore the t-shirt with the ripped head. if none of that made an effect then why the klits waste their time facing someone who isn't as heavyweight proven as alot of boxers. haye made business sense for them and that is the whole reason they BOTH wanted a piece of him.


you obv dont know your german "boxing market" .if Haye was that populer why did they not put this fight in a biger venue?surely if haye was a big star over there (due to his anticts) they could easily put this in avenue with 20/30 thousan even more.

[achillesthegreat]

you obv dont know your german "boxing market" .if Haye was that populer why did they not put this fight in a biger venue?surely if haye was a big star over there (due to his anticts) they could easily put this in avenue with 20/30 thousan even more.

i know the german market and i know the klits aren't attracting 70 thousand every time.

[alba]

i know the german market and i know the klits aren't attracting 70 thousand every time.

well if there not attracing that,then who is ?cos haye certainly aint attracting seventy thousand?

[2tall2slow2]

If it was a 10,000 seater venue in England with an English fighter challenging for a HW title then I'd be very disappointed, but this is Valuev in Germany.
There will probably still be more Brits than locals in attendance.

[slip&counter]

who's going over?

[Kid Lucky]

I went to Nuremburg years ago. Nice place to look around, totally rebuilt in it's old style after WW2. Went via Heathrow>Munich if I remember right.

[ross8503]

There was a bigger build up to the Klit fight with a bit of needle between the two of them. This seems more lowkey. Will it sell 10,000?

[achillesthegreat]

well if there not attracing that,then who is ?cos haye certainly aint attracting seventy thousand?

I don't know why they went for only a 10k stadium so you can't answer whether or not it would sell more.

Haye riled up the Klits fan. Haye got their fans to come out and watch them.

[mcguirpa]

I went to Nuremburg years ago. Nice place to look around, totally rebuilt in it's old style after WW2. Went via Heathrow>Munich if I remember right.


If anyones going from the North East you can get flights direct from Teeside airport.:good

[DamonD]

Looking forward to it. Atmosphere should be hot.

[djoc175]

Haye isn't a big draw which is quite odd really given his exciting style and personality.He certainly isn't as popular as you'd expect him to be.The fight vs Barrett proves it,it wasn't a sellout I don't think and they had an offer on tickets.If people want to put that down to the opponent(Barrett in this case)then look at Hatton/Lazcano.It might be slightly different with Hattons football fans but there are other examples

[2tall2slow2]

Haye isn't a big draw which is quite odd really given his exciting style and personality.He certainly isn't as popular as you'd expect him to be.The fight vs Barrett proves it,it wasn't a sellout I don't think and they had an offer on tickets.If people want to put that down to the opponent(Barrett in this case)then look at Hatton/Lazcano.It might be slightly different with Hattons football fans but there are other examples

Agreed. Just shows you the influence that Sky has on sports fans. Hattons been with them in some form since the beginning of his career hasn't he?
Hopefully Haye can achieve something similar but he'll never be perceived as a "man of the people"

[mcguirpa]

Haye isn't a big draw which is quite odd really given his exciting style and personality.He certainly isn't as popular as you'd expect him to be.The fight vs Barrett proves it,it wasn't a sellout I don't think and they had an offer on tickets.If people want to put that down to the opponent(Barrett in this case)then look at Hatton/Lazcano.It might be slightly different with Hattons football fans but there are other examples

Reason haye is not a draw is because he's not busy enough. 5 fights in 3 years ain't going to make anyone a star.

[TFFP]

It ain't shit to do with Haye. Haye has proven time and time again he can't sell out. He struggled to sell out the O2 and now they've got a 10k stadium. If the demand was high they would have had a football stadium again.

The Klitschko's have a crazy following.

[EastLondonDan]

I went to Nuremburg years ago. Nice place to look around, totally rebuilt in it's old style after WW2. Went via Heathrow>Munich if I remember right.

Yeah I went to Nuremburg during the football world cup 2006, we was based in Munich and got the train up there, if I remember rightly it was about 2 hours away from Munich on the train???

As it goes, Munich is a fantastic place for a weekend, so might be an idea for peole, although at a 10,000 venue they'll be plenty of beds in Nuremberg to cater for all, and German cities are generally good places to have a night out in.

[spitbucket]

best of luck 2 haye

[carlos1000]

Have got it booked already. Stansted to Munich on the Sat morning, 40 quid return on Easyjet. Express train to Nuremburg, only takes one hour. Night in the Hilton near the Arena, 65 Euros. Just waiting for the fight tickets to go on sale now. Heard from a boxing friend that Nuremburg is a great place to visit. I'm travelling alone, so if there are any other Haye fans going over, drop me a line. Could do with some drinking buddies. Cheers, Son of Bonters.

[BigEars]

If anyones going from the North East you can get flights direct from Teeside airport.:good

and my chances of going just shot way up.
Fuckers can't fly me to Dublin anymore but they can fly to Nuremburg ?.........

There's the obvious argument going on her between people saying what Haye, the Klitschko's etc can sell.

The truth is Haye doesn't generate a huge sell himself when he's the draw, but he's a great guy to be the home fighter against if you want to sell.

For those thinking the Klitschko's would sell 60,000 for a normal fight(or even a relatively big fight like Chagaev) get real, Haye was a major reason for the choice of such a large venue and they knew he could deliver great PR for the fight.

However Valuev is nowhere near the draw of the Klitschko's, so without the interest of one of them it doesn't matter that Haye is involved. He doesn't interest the German market on his own, only when he's against one of the big names there.

Valuev is an average name there, he's not big news(otherwise he'd have never been scheduled to fight in Finland) but he's not a no one either.
The 10,000 is about right I'd say, but it will be reliant on quite a good few Haye fans travelling over.

[mcguirpa]

and my chances of going just shot way up.
Fuckers can't fly me to Dublin anymore but they can fly to Nuremburg ?.........

Actually, it's not direct it's via Amsterdam. I don't know why I didn't say that in the first place, it's a route I do at least once a month.

[brown bomber]

My dad lives in Munich..... hmmm only an hour on train?

[brown bomber]

Have got it booked already. Stansted to Munich on the Sat morning, 40 quid return on Easyjet. Express train to Nuremburg, only takes one hour. Night in the Hilton near the Arena, 65 Euros. Just waiting for the fight tickets to go on sale now. Heard from a boxing friend that Nuremburg is a great place to visit. I'm travelling alone, so if there are any other Haye fans going over, drop me a line. Could do with some drinking buddies. Cheers, Son of Bonters.You could be a mentalist or a rapist... you only have two posts. :deal

[carlos1000]

Indeed I do only have two posts here. Not sure what that has to do with my potential for being a violent criminal though? :-) Just to clarify, I'm not a rapist, a mentalist, or anything of that sort. I also post on BoxRec and LiveFight. Anyone familiar with those forums will be aware of Bonters, and hence also be aware of me, Son of Bonters. I'm a big Haye fan, determined to support the big man over in Germany. I went over to Gelsenkirchen in June when he was supposed to fight Wlad. Met up with quite a few fellas from LiveFight.

[carlos1000]

Indeed I do only have two posts here. Not sure what that has to do with my potential for being a violent criminal though? :-) Just to clarify, I'm not a rapist, a mentalist, or anything of that sort. I also post on BoxRec and LiveFight. Anyone familiar with those forums will be aware of Bonters, and hence also be aware of me, Son of Bonters. I'm a big Haye fan, determined to support the big man over in Germany. I went over to Gelsenkirchen in June when he was supposed to fight Wlad. Met up with quite a few fellas from LiveFight.

[BigEars]

My dad lives in Munich..... hmmm only an hour on train?

lol, what a multicultural family Jeff, you clog wearing hippy you.

[Mazallan]

Haye will probably bring about 300 fans with him.

[Mazallan]

Indeed I do only have two posts here. Not sure what that has to do with my potential for being a violent criminal though? :-) Just to clarify, I'm not a rapist, a mentalist, or anything of that sort.


Not a convicted rapist or not a rapist at all?

[carlos1000]

Ha ha, you guys are too funny :-) But seriously guys, who's going over for this? We need to drum up as much support as possible for the Hayemaker!