Mayweather vs UFC 103 ppv

[demzor]

Just as i had suspected.. it seems like no bars are showing the Mayweather fight. And why should they? It costs them like half as much to show a UFC.

I think a lot of boxing fans will be surprised when the numbers come out.

[Popshots]

Just as i had suspected.. it seems like no bars are showing the Mayweather fight. And why should they? It costs them like half as much to show a UFC.

I think a lot of boxing fans will be surprised when the numbers come out.

Thats a lie, plenty of bars are showing the fight. It depends up the geographic. If its more urban then you will likely get the Mayweather fight. If there are more predominantley white males going to the bar you'll likely show UFC.

[Monoxide]

I honestly heard that no bars were showing the UFC. I really want to watch the boxing. Everyone here in the household is more interested in the UFC though. Therefore, I'll watch the UFC. Boxing seems to do a better job at hyping up their fights though.

[Jeff Young]

Thats a lie, plenty of bars are showing the fight. It depends up the geographic. If its more urban then you will likely get the Mayweather fight. If there are more predominantley white males going to the bar you'll likely show UFC.

yes its demographics that are important, where i live in austin, they are showing mayweather, but if you hit the burbs and rural areas they are showing ufc......

it shows that the audience for boxing is more diverse just like arum said...

[fatcity]

I can settle this matter guys.Go to [Only registered and activated users can see links] is Canada's premier closed circuit PPV company and broadcasts events to the bar network.
Facts don't lie.In Canada,at least,it shows approx 1500 bars showing UFC and about 50 bars showing Mayweather.I suspect the US will follow suit.In the US go to [Only registered and activated users can see links] for their bar network location list.
Read it and weep!:hi:

[Boyd]

in my town not one bar is showing the Floyd fight. i'm really surprised to be honest.

[AJAX]

My city hasn't shown a boxing ppv since Lewis-Tyson, but about 6-8 bars have been showing UFC and the number has been growing.

[demzor]

I can settle this matter guys.Go to [Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) is Canada's premier closed circuit PPV company and broadcasts events to the bar network.
Facts don't lie.In Canada,at least,it shows approx 1500 bars showing UFC and about 50 bars showing Mayweather.I suspect the US will follow suit.In the US go to [Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) for their bar network location list.
Read it and weep!:hi:

Thank you for the facts

[québecwarrior]

No one is talking about the Floyd fight, here in MTL lol.

[David Fanning]

Just as i had suspected.. it seems like no bars are showing the Mayweather fight. And why should they? It costs them like half as much to show a UFC.

I think a lot of boxing fans will be surprised when the numbers come out.

Well, the numbers are out. Boxing had twice as many PPV buys as UFC. I'm a boxing fan. I'm not surprised.

[darkaz619]

more bars showing UFC my ass Mayweather got 1 million buys.

[David Fanning]

more bars showing UFC my ass Mayweather got 1 million buys.

Yeah I wonder what the surprise was supposed to be.

[David Fanning]

I can settle this matter guys.Go to [Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) is Canada's premier closed circuit PPV company and broadcasts events to the bar network.
Facts don't lie.In Canada,at least,it shows approx 1500 bars showing UFC and about 50 bars showing Mayweather.I suspect the US will follow suit.In the US go to [Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) for their bar network location list.
Read it and weep!:hi:

So UFC fans celebrate the fact that more bars showed the UFC fight? What does that mean anyway? More UFC fans go to bars?

[Vengeance]

Just as i had suspected.. it seems like no bars are showing the Mayweather fight. And why should they? It costs them like half as much to show a UFC.

I think a lot of boxing fans will be surprised when the numbers come out.

Well.. the numbers are out...

Floyd vs JMM - 1 million
UFC 103 - 400 k

Have a nice day.

[jimmie]

Well.. the numbers are out...

Floyd vs JMM - 1 million
UFC 103 - 400 k

Have a nice day.

I dont know what your so exicted about ? You put boxings biggest star BY FAR agianst an average UFC card where the main event was featuring guys I love but a guy in Franklin who wasnt a top 5 fighter and Belfort who hadnt been in the UFC in 5 years. Its a no brainer for alot of people who are sucked into the hype you buy the bigger fight. Both cards sucked ass so I dont think anyone truely won.

[AJAX]

OK, UFC 104 vs ? next month, what's next for boxing?

[ufoalf]

I dont know what your so exicted about ? You put boxings biggest star BY FAR agianst an average UFC card where the main event was featuring guys I love but a guy in Franklin who wasnt a top 5 fighter and Belfort who hadnt been in the UFC in 5 years. Its a no brainer for alot of people who are sucked into the hype you buy the bigger fight. Both cards sucked ass so I dont think anyone truely won.

No kidding. This card was pretty shitty to be honest with no top fighters fighting(Belford is the only dude on the card who could be called top5 out of all fights :lol:). Not to mention there was no title up for grabs.

Listen I love boxing. They have to step up with making their boxers box the fights people are actually excited about. Believe me if you asked fans who would you like Mayweather to fight when he came out of retirement, very seldom would Marques's name come up.

[David Fanning]

OK, UFC 104 vs ? next month, what's next for boxing?

MMA wouldn't DARE go up against Pacquiao vs. Cotto.

[darkaz619]

UFC 104 is Free Pacquiao vs. Cotto is on PPV

[harry100]

Damm right the UFC may be shown more in bars as you gotta be drunk to watch their PPV's and think you got a good deal. I would be pissed at payin to watch guys falling over after minimal contact during the first flurry thrown. Rich Franklin went down faster than JENNA JAMESON!!

[David Fanning]

UFC 104 is Free Pacquiao vs. Cotto is on PPV

I wouldn't be surprised if more people pay $50 to watch Pacquiao-Cotto than people will watch UFC 104 for free.

[Beebs]

I wouldn't be surprised if more people pay $50 to watch Pacquiao-Cotto than people will watch UFC 104 for free.
:lol::lol:

You aren't even trying; the 75 did over 5.6 million viewers.

You are just terrible at being a troll, not even funny or actually possible of making people angry; you just suck at it

[untmike]

The UFC put 3 of their top stars on a ppv card on the same night and got 1.6 mil buys. Boxing put 2 of their top stars on the same card and got 2.4 mil buys. Nuff said.

[liger05]

I dont know what your so exicted about ? You put boxings biggest star BY FAR agianst an average UFC card where the main event was featuring guys I love but a guy in Franklin who wasnt a top 5 fighter and Belfort who hadnt been in the UFC in 5 years. Its a no brainer for alot of people who are sucked into the hype you buy the bigger fight. Both cards sucked ass so I dont think anyone truely won.

Before last weekend.

Dana White:

“He’s not a superstar. Floyd doesn’t sell. Floyd plus another great fighter sells. You need two good fighters that people really want to see. It’s not a fight people want to see.”

Once the numbers came out:

White said. “Bottom line, we did a good number and we still got our asses kicked. What they did was phenomenal and I’m happy for them.UFC Lost. Simple as that. I find it funny how UFC fans now try and claim boxing had its biggest star up against an average UFC card. Before last weekend PBF wasnt a star according to UFC fans and wouldnt draw a dime.

Oh and while you talk about an averge UFC card please tell me who UFC have on there cards who can draw 1 mil buys?

[Boyd]

well if you had 20,00 bars with 100 people each watching the ufc that's 2,000,000 people. you have to factor this in in the debate. truth is no one can say who watched more of what last weekend. but i wouldn't be surprised if more people actually watched the UFC.

[Boinko]

Before last weekend.
UFC Lost. Simple as that. I find it funny how UFC fans now try and claim boxing had its biggest star up against an average UFC card. Before last weekend PBF wasnt a star according to UFC fans and wouldnt draw a dime.

I highly doubt many UFC fans felt the Mayweather PPV was going to totally tank. But obviously very few felt that it would do as well as it did. Dana White certainly didn't as he had to know that his event wouldn't come close to a million buys. He talked trash based on the hunch that Mayweather isn't a great draw unless he's up against a superstar like De La Hoya.
He was wrong and he admitted it.

Oh and while you talk about an averge UFC card please tell me who UFC have on there cards who can draw 1 mil buys?

Well, Lesnar/Mir did well over 1 million buys. Like boxing, if you put your biggest stars up against each other the potential for 1 mill plus buys is there. It's happened 4 other times in UFC history and it'll almost certainly happen again.

[Boinko]

well if you had 20,00 bars with 100 people each watching the ufc that's 2,000,000 people. you have to factor this in in the debate. truth is no one can say who watched more of what last weekend. but i wouldn't be surprised if more people actually watched the UFC.

Good point. I was very surprised when I checked the canadastar boxing site before last weekend and noticed the unbelievably lopsided number of bars showing the UFC as opposed to the PBF fight.
It would interesting to see similar type of numbers for the US.

Of course, how many people bought the Mayweather PPV because there wasn't a bar in their area showing it? These are the kind of things that we can't really know, so it's hard to factor them into the final numbers.

The bottom line is that both sports are popular, and contrary to the proclamations of some, boxing is alive and well. If you put two fighters in the ring that people want to see fight, then people will buy it.
This goes for either sport.

[cdnboxing]

I dont know what your so exicted about ? You put boxings biggest star BY FAR agianst an average UFC card where the main event was featuring guys I love but a guy in Franklin who wasnt a top 5 fighter and Belfort who hadnt been in the UFC in 5 years. Its a no brainer for alot of people who are sucked into the hype you buy the bigger fight. Both cards sucked ass so I dont think anyone truely won.

Boxings star fought a Mexican featherweight who moved up 2 weight classes and what many considered an easy fight for Floyd which it was.

Not to mention, it was essentially a tune-up fight.

Whats also hilarious is Arum and Schaefer called out Dana about fabricating his PPV buys. And Dana had no response, he just got owned hard. They say UFC 100 did around 1m not 1.6m which Dana suggested earlier.

If this is true, which wouldnt be surprising that means this JMM/Mayweather tune-up fight did as many buys as the biggest card in UFC history.

[cdnboxing]

OK, UFC 104 vs ? next month, what's next for boxing?

I really hope thats a joke.

[cdnboxing]

“I am willing to hire one of the top three accounting firms, at my expense, and do an audit of his pay-per-view results. They are nowhere near what is put into the public. There is talk that UFC 100 did 1.6 million, but it barely broke a million. I am willing to pay to have the audits done to prove this.”

LOL, poor Dana.

[Boinko]

“I am willing to hire one of the top three accounting firms, at my expense, and do an audit of his pay-per-view results. They are nowhere near what is put into the public. There is talk that UFC 100 did 1.6 million, but it barely broke a million. I am willing to pay to have the audits done to prove this.”

LOL, poor Dana.

Who is that quote from? I'm looking in this thread and can't find it.

If the bottom line is that we can't ever know the true PPV numbers for UFC events because they can't be independently verified, then this debate is pretty pointless.
If it's left to Dana and his crew to tell us the numbers, there's always going to be suspicion that he's inflated the totals.

[Beebs]

“I am willing to hire one of the top three accounting firms, at my expense, and do an audit of his pay-per-view results. They are nowhere near what is put into the public. There is talk that UFC 100 did 1.6 million, but it barely broke a million. I am willing to pay to have the audits done to prove this.”

LOL, poor Dana.

Well he has the money and the mouth, time to put them together.

Rather than talking about what he's going to do, do it.

The UFC puts on more shows with less viewers for each show, boxing puts on fewer big shows and gets more viewers for their biggest PPVs.

Who cares? Is there a trophy in the balance here? Does how many people bought which PPV effect anybody here in any way?

Right now MMA is getting less buys per show, but puts on a hell of a lot more shows and has a hell of a lot more non PPV shows that get millions more than any PPV.

If boxing and MMA were both stocks for sale on a public exchange, I would be willing to bet that MMA would sell at a higher price; but who the fuck cares?

It's a bunch of large egos who can't play nice together talking shit, it has nothing to do with the sports.

Why anybody here gives a shit is beyond me, its not like either sport is going to stop putting on fights in the near future or even the long future, both sports are great.

Stupid fucking arguments like this should just be thrown out on sight, it does nothing for the forum and is a trolls playground.

[Primenal]

Well he has the money and the mouth, time to put them together.

Rather than talking about what he's going to do, do it.

The UFC puts on more shows with less viewers for each show, boxing puts on fewer big shows and gets more viewers for their biggest PPVs.

Who cares? Is there a trophy in the balance here? Does how many people bought which PPV effect anybody here in any way?

Right now MMA is getting less buys per show, but puts on a hell of a lot more shows and has a hell of a lot more non PPV shows that get millions more than any PPV.

If boxing and MMA were both stocks for sale on a public exchange, I would be willing to bet that MMA would sell at a higher price; but who the fuck cares?

It's a bunch of large egos who can't play nice together talking shit, it has nothing to do with the sports.

Why anybody here gives a shit is beyond me, its not like either sport is going to stop putting on fights in the near future or even the long future, both sports are great.

Stupid fucking arguments like this should just be thrown out on sight, it does nothing for the forum and is a trolls playground.

I think the people who are happy that Boxing out did the UFC are people who cannot stand Dana White. He's going to run his mouth about everything, put things like boxing down, and just plainly says stuff he shouldn't have. People here are just happy to see him eat crow.
Of course some UFC fans are annoying saying UFC is better, blah, blah (you have boxing fans like this as well), and of course there going to be excited to see them eat crow as well.
I'm not really biased against either...I just like to watch good athletes put on good fights. I'm more of a boxing fan, but will watch a GOOD MMA fight. If somebody likes MMA better then that's there business, but don't talk smack about boxing and expect people not to brag when something like this happens.
Competition is a good thing, and forces eachother to put on better products anyways.....

[achillesthegreat]

“I am willing to hire one of the top three accounting firms, at my expense, and do an audit of his pay-per-view results. They are nowhere near what is put into the public. There is talk that UFC 100 did 1.6 million, but it barely broke a million. I am willing to pay to have the audits done to prove this.”

LOL, poor Dana.

Who said that?

[achillesthegreat]

Arum is a fool. White is a fool. They should be getting people into combat sports but they are in competition. Get people into combat sports and get boxers and MMA crossing over. Belfort in boxing would work, Vitali in K1 would work, Cintron in MMA would work. It would be a new challenge and interesting.

This boxing MMA divide is doing my head in.

It's combat baby. You got to appreciate it in all its forms.

[liger05]

Who said that?

Richard Schaefer

[cdnboxing]

Who said that?

Richard Shaefer from Golden Boy.

It was in the Kevin Iole article a few days ago.

[BewareofDawg]

well if you had 20,00 bars with 100 people each watching the ufc that's 2,000,000 people. you have to factor this in in the debate. truth is no one can say who watched more of what last weekend. but i wouldn't be surprised if more people actually watched the UFC.
When a bar gets an event, they pay more then an individual and I'm sure it factors into the numbers in the end. Not an exact. But you also have to take into account that those 100 people seeing it at the bar, aren't all there to see it and don't all give a shit about it.