PBF vs Williams; PBF avoided it

[yesihavearm]

PBF could have fought a real welterweight in Williams or even Mosely/Cotto. Instead he's done what he's always done and avoided the best competition possible instead to fight a light-welterweight who was clearly out of his depth when he moved up to 147!

Williams said he offered the fight to Fraud but Fraud turned it done, running scared as usual, like he does in most of his matches.

PBF's best wins are against a shot Gatti and a shot DLH.

Who's he gonna fight next, Ivan Calderon ?

[brooklyn1550]

Hatton is a real fight. He's undefeated and a world champion.

Should Mayweather beat him, then he will fight Cotto/Mosley or Williams

[dwilson]

Williams is the weakest of the guys PBF could face. I would even pick PBF t o stop him.

[Alo2006]

Hatton is a real fight. He's undefeated and a world champion.

Should Mayweather beat him, then he will fight Cotto/Mosley or Williams

Well said :yep

[Lostmykeys]

Williams isn't a big enough name.

That and Hatton was talking all kinds off shit after already ducking Floyd.

[41fever]

Hatton is a real fight. He's undefeated and a world champion.

Should Mayweather beat him, then he will fight Cotto/Mosley or WilliamsThat's true, but Hatton has to come up to 147, a weight he doesn't perform well, he and his father admitted.

[aliwasthegreatest]

you just did a thread about pbf avoiding people. does it ever get boring doing the same thing over and over again?

[JAM Killer]

I disagree that Mayweather should have fought Williams, Williams is no where near ready for that and he would lose every fucking round. Anyway, Mayweather should have fought Hatton at 140, at 147 Hatton does not stand a chance.

[Toopretty]

Mayweather only took the the fight at 147 is because he knows he will beat Hatton at that weight. Mayweather wouldn't fight Hatton at 140 because he knows he could possibly lose at the weight.

That is the dumbest shit I have ever heard..In the history of boxing guys who stepped up a half a weight class or even a whole never made these bullshit excuses...Floyd is not a real welter...hatton is a lifetime 140 guy..floyd started at 130............................................the fucking fight is even..Only in the world of nonboxing retards does the half of weight class and 7pounds mean anything..If he whoops him at 147..he whoops at 146-145--144-143-142-141-140-139 etc etc....If floyd was the bigger man....and he was draining A-LA every other welter that really weighs 160 on fight night then you have a point.............otherwise..STFU..So I guess after Hearns got demolished by Hagler..he said he would of took him out at 154.....just like duran made that same excuse for beating Sugar Ray the first fight..RIGHTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT. If you are a great fighter ..you are a great fighter at any fucking weight as true great fighters like Floyd have proven.
INGRATES ACT LIKE HATTON IS MOVING UP TO MIDDLE..IT IS A HALF OF A WEIGHT CLASS............................................................................................... ....:nut

[Toopretty]

Its really crazy to say Hatton would beat Mayweather at 140 because Mayweather used to knock people out at lower weights.Hatton will never beat Mayweather at any weight.Mayweather is a genius,he thinks and is very quick.Hatton fans can mourn and groan all they want but Mayweather is a superior fight
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I am stil waiting on the crowd to prove to me a great fighter that moved up a half of weight class and just was plain trash and if that same fighter moved down the half a weight class beats the guy that whooped his ass a half a weight class higher..Hatton was Hatton against Collazo........................that is the most pure utter bullshit ever spewed..Collazo was Collazo.........Hatton couldnt push him around....Hatton could not hurt him............Hatton got tired trying to muscle him around...but the point is....it was still him...everything else..NON BELIEVERS....the fight is on youtube finally. Proves my case that he was no different, just that Collazo boxed his ass up and was the stronger man.

[aliwasthegreatest]

i didnt see that fiight pon youtube i dont see it up

[Relentless]

Boxers fight for money,Mayweather fights for money because he has established himself.Williams is a good fighter but hasnt established himself,he is not a big PPV fight for Mayweather yet,when he wins against a few guys then he can come to PBF.
Hatton has been talking rubbish for years,he called Mayweather long back,even went to watch Mayweather against Gatti with the intention of challenging Mayweather,after watching how Mayweather did his job,Hatton said 'maybe in two years we can have a fight',because he knew he would be taken apart.He didnt really want to fight Mayweather at this time but he knew he might never have a chance if Mayweather retired,all he wants is a big paycheque,he knows he is gonna get whooped

when floyd gets big paycheques, does he share some of it with you?

[Mundo]

I cant BELIEVE all this BITCHING about Mayweather fighting HATTON.


im starting to believe the PBF fans that say he could be fighting ANYBODY and people would STILL bitch.


Hes fighting RICKY HATTON...

this isnt gatti, this isnt judah, this isnt mitchel, this isnt baldomir...

for fucks sakes get a grip.

wow.... he turned down a fight with the williams... who has JUST reached elite level, to fight RICKY HATTON.

it was barely before the judah fight where RING magazine had on their cover
'Forget Judah... give us Hatton vs Mayweather'

anyone who thinks that WILLIAMS is a better scalp, and opponent, for mayweather, at THIS POINT... is crazy. This is the perfect time to make this fight.

These guys are 2/3 of the undefeated star champions from 140-147 that have forged this era... being Mayweather, Hatton, Cotto... and this fight is needed. Williams is going to have to wait in line, because the winner of mosley/cotto should get it next.

[The Kurgan]

Mayweather only took the the fight at 147 is because he knows he will beat Hatton at that weight. Mayweather wouldn't fight Hatton at 140 because he knows he could possibly lose at the weight.

If PBF knows he can beat Hatton at 147, then he will lose.

[The Kurgan]

I cant BELIEVE all this BITCHING about Mayweather fighting HATTON.


I think it's retarded, but I'm not surprised. If PBF had fought anyone else, people would say he was ducking Hatton. Because he's number 1 in the best weight category in boxing (140-154), there are endless people for him to face. Since PBF can only fight one guy at a time (though he could probably beaten Gatti and Baldomir at the same time), there's always going to be someone he's "ducking".

[Lance_Uppercut]

I think it's retarded, but I'm not surprised. If PBF had fought anyone else, people would say he was ducking Hatton. Because he's number 1 in the best weight category in boxing (140-154), there are endless people for him to face. Since PBF can only fight one guy at a time (though he could probably beaten Gatti and Baldomir at the same time), there's always going to be someone he's "ducking".

No, it's mainly because Hatton isn't a 147 pounder. If they fought at 140, it would be different.

[bigtime9]

No, it's mainly because Hatton isn't a 147 pounder. If they fought at 140, it would be different

and floyd is a 147lber you stupid fuck:deal :lol:

[Lance_Uppercut]

and floyd is a 147lber you stupid fuck:deal :lol:

He's the Ring champ @ 147. What does that tell you chicken? :lol:

[Lance_Uppercut]

Can Floyd fucking win with you chumps?

A few months ago "Oh, Floyd needs to fight Ricky Hatton, Hatton is relentless and would fucking murder Floyd" - the fight gets made "Oh, Floyd needs to fight a real welterweight"

Guess what chump, Floyd is the smaller man - he came from a smaller weight division, ain't his fault if he's skilled enough to fight at 154 - fight is at 147 - Hatton can feel free to come in at 141-142lbs if he really wants too, Floyd won't weigh more than 145ish.

Now fuck off with this shit - Williams beat Margarito, not even convincingly, he gets starched the moment he steps up to someone like Floyd.

Would you be praising Joe C is he was fighting a MW who didn't look too good at his only fight @ 168?

[GazOC]

Williams isn't a name and is stylistically is nightmare.

President of the 'Who needs him?' club at 147.

[Lance_Uppercut]

And Hatton recently moved to 147, took a major belt and went back down - what does that tell you, fuckwit?

Hatton has accomplishments at 147.

Not as many as Floyd - why? Because he's not the fighter that Floyd is.

Now, fuck off.

Fuckwit? Are you bitchtime's little girlfriend or something? Come to his rescue?

[Lance_Uppercut]

He did, fella - Evans Ashira - a MW that didn't look too good at 168.

7 lbs is fucking nothing, especially considering Floyd fought at 130 at one point, Hatton has constantly campaigned at 140.

And as for "not looking too good in his only fight at 147" - as mentioned above, Hatton took a title in that performance, which makes him a darn sight better than what you make him out to be.

Like said above - Fuck off.

What's up with the hostility? On your period? I asked you a simple question amd you respond like a bitch?

Sure, Hatton won a vacant belt off a guy who hasn't even done anything himself, and that makes him a top WW to you? Wow..you're real smart.

[Mundo]

Would you be praising Joe C is he was fighting a MW who didn't look too good at his only fight @ 168?

Well... maybe if joe had started BELOW this 160lber..... like mayweather did start below hatton.


thing is... come fight night... it wont matter if they fight at 140 or 147.

hatton already stated that he will not come in at 147... and mayweather barely weighs that come fight time anyways.

the fight doesnt change.

hatton looked bad because he came in heavy... and he was fighting a REAL 147lber... mayweather imo, is not a REAL 147lber the way collazo, margarito, cintron, williams (who is actually a 154 or 160lber imo),

imo you would usually have a point, but in this fight, its mute imo.

[PBF P4P #1]

Would you be praising Joe C is he was fighting a MW who didn't look too good at his only fight @ 168?

Jermain Taylor never looks good, but yeah if he moved up people would praise JC for taking it.

Floyd can't win.....No matter who he fights everyone then claims he is ducking 16 other people.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Well... maybe if joe had started BELOW this 160lber..... like mayweather did start below hatton.


thing is... come fight night... it wont matter if they fight at 140 or 147.

hatton already stated that he will not come in at 147... and mayweather barely weighs that come fight time anyways.

the fight doesnt change.

hatton looked bad because he came in heavy... and he was fighting a REAL 147lber... mayweather imo, is not a REAL 147lber the way collazo, margarito, cintron, williams (who is actually a 154 or 160lber imo),

imo you would usually have a point, but in this fight, its mute imo.

Guess I can't argue with this.:thumbsup

[Lance_Uppercut]

The only way an idiot like you learns is through hostility. When you state absolutely stupid fucking shit, I'm forced to respond with hostility because I know any pure, logical thought won't get through to you - otherwise you wouldn't have the admittedly fucking stupid opinions you have now.

Hatton won a title at 147 against Collazo - it wasn't a vacancy fight like your idiotic ass tries to pervert, it was the WBA title that he had won AND defended before the fight against Hatton

If not doing shit at WW means gaining the WBA title and defending it once - then fuck me, you're an idiot.

*yawn*

go change your tampon already.... I didn't state anything stupid, I stated the truth. Fine, it wasn't vacant, my bad. Doesn't make Collazo anything special twat.

[Illmatic]

No, it's mainly because Hatton isn't a 147 pounder. If they fought at 140, it would be different.

how ridiculous.....

if they fought at any weight the result will be the same

[Lance_Uppercut]

You stated the truth? Fuck off - you stated stupidity such as "They fought for a Vacant title"

Oh and holding a title at Welterweight, considered one of the most competitive divisions in the sport at the moment means nothing? What next..? What next stupid fucking thing will come out of your mouth?

I admitted my mistake little girl. The truth was he didn't look very good @ 147 bitch. And I hate to tell you this, maybe it's news to you, I don't know. But not all 147 champs are equal just because they hold a belt @ 147, which you seme to be insinuating. Then again, maybe you think Judah or Balodmir vs. SRL would be a great dream matchup.:patsch

[Lance_Uppercut]

how ridiculous.....

if they fought at any weight the result will be the same

I would pick floyd @ either weight vs. Hatton. When I say different, I am not saying the outcome. I don't know about you, but I prefer to see fighters fight where both will be at their best. Maybe you like different types of fights. Who cares right?

[bigtime9]

He's the Ring champ @ 147. What does that tell you chicken?

it tells me you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. floyd has fought 70% of his fights at 130 hatton has fought 90% of his fights at 140. and you say floyd is the bigger man.

why don't you do us all a favor and shut the fuck up and post your pictures. because you obviously have nothing to add to this discussion but your glaring stupidity:scaredas:

[Lance_Uppercut]

it tells me you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. floyd has fought 70% of his fights at 130 hatton has fought 90% of his fights at 140. and you say floyd is the bigger man.

why don't you do us all a favor and shut the fuck up and post your pictures. because you obviously have nothing to add to this discussion but your glaring stupidity:scaredas:

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[bigtime9]

Then again, maybe you think Judah or Balodmir vs. SRL would be a great dream matchup.:patsch

stay on topic fuck wad:lol: :deal

[bigtime9]

I would pick floyd @ either weight vs. Hatton. When I say different, I am not saying the outcome. I don't know about you, but I prefer to see fighters fight where both will be at their best. Maybe you like different types of fights. Who cares right?


and 147 is floyds natural weight class. this is his fourth division:deal how stupid can anyone be:rofl :nut

[Lance_Uppercut]

You only admitted it because you were called out on it shitwit.

Floyd Mayweather Jr didn't look very good at 147 either - he got beat in the first three to four rounds vs Zab Judah and had an unofficial knock down.

He had to potshot and run from Baldomir in a fight that was considered boring by many fans.

And what? Hatton has a close fight at Welterweight and manages to KNOCK DOWN his opponent - which Floyd couldn't do in either of his fights at Welterweight and suddenly Hatton is bad at welterweight?

You're a fucking dope.

So what? I made a simple mistake. Is that all you have to go with? Wow...you busted me. You're GREAT!!!:patsch

YEah, I'm a dope...you're trying to compare Hatton looking very average against a decent WW to Floyd looking much better against better foes? OK blocky.... :nut

[Lance_Uppercut]

If he wants Floyd to be at his best, why not fight at 135lb instead.

I'm sure Floyd could make it - Could Ricky Fatton? Doubtful.

Floyd has looked great at other weight classes, yes? Ask that question w/ Hatton girl.

[Lance_Uppercut]

and 147 is floyds natural weight class. this is his fourth division:deal how stupid can anyone be:rofl :nut

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[bigtime9]

you're trying to compare Hatton looking very average against a decent WW to Floyd looking much better against better foes? OK blocky.... :nut

what a fucking idiot you are. are you trying to imply that floyd ia a natural 147lber or that he has a weight advantage over a natural 140lber:nut :rofl

[psychopath]

PBF could have fought a real welterweight in Williams or even Mosely/Cotto. Instead he's done what he's always done and avoided the best competition possible instead to fight a light-welterweight who was clearly out of his depth when he moved up to 147!

Williams said he offered the fight to Fraud but Fraud turned it done, running scared as usual, like he does in most of his matches.

PBF's best wins are against a shot Gatti and a shot DLH.

Who's he gonna fight next, Ivan Calderon ?

Yeah he avoided it . . . just for the meantime. :yep A fight with Hatton is not that bad comparing with a fight with Mosley or Cotto, in fact a Hatton fight is the biggest money fight for PBF at present.

And Williams? His name is not even worth mentioning here buddy. Williams is a "no money . . . no glory" fight for PBF at this point.

[Lance_Uppercut]

what a fucking idiot you are. are you trying to imply that floyd ia a natural 147lber or that he has a weight advantage over a natural 140lber:nut :rofl

I found you!!

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[Lance_Uppercut]

and 147 is floyds natural weight class. this is his fourth division:deal how stupid can anyone be:rofl :nut
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[bigtime9]

Floyd has looked great at other weight classes, yes? Ask that question w/ Hatton girl.

just because he looks good at other weight classes doesn't mean he is natural for that weight:rofl did you ever stop to ask yourself if there was another reason hatton didn't look good at 147 besides weight.

being a hater I am sure you thought it prudent to discuss the first lame idea that popped into your infantile mind.

next time close your fucking mouth when grown folks are talking.:deal

[Lance_Uppercut]

So lets penalise the absolute shit out of Floyd for fighting so well that he dominates his fight? That makes absolute perfect fucking sense.

Face it, shitwit - you've been bitchslapped.

A: You told a lie
B: You have a stupid opinion
C: You see no logic

You're too much of a stubborn little fuck to just leave the thread and hope it blows over, after you've been repeatedly owned on A: your lies, b: Hatton's lack of accomplishment at 147, C: Floyd Mayweather's prime weight, D: Their start weights.

What next? you're going to say that Floyd is a pussy for not facing Wlad? It's probably less stupid than your assertion that 147 is a natural weight for Floyd to be at... Floyd ain't the guy who walks around at 200lbs outside of fights fella, Hatton is.

I didn't tell a lie little lady, I made a mistake. One you seem to dwell on for some reason.

Yes, I am going to say Floyd is a pussy for not facing Wlad. :roll: Great rebuttel block. And great logic as well.

Nothing you post and cry about changes the FACT that Hatton has not looked good @ 147. but please, give me another reply that is pretty pointless.

[bigtime9]

So lets penalise the absolute shit out of Floyd for fighting so well that he dominates his fight? That makes absolute perfect fucking sense.

Face it, shitwit - you've been bitchslapped.

A: You told a lie
B: You have a stupid opinion
C: You see no logic

You're too much of a stubborn little fuck to just leave the thread and hope it blows over, after you've been repeatedly owned on A: your lies, b: Hatton's lack of accomplishment at 147, C: Floyd Mayweather's prime weight, D: Their start weights.

What next? you're going to say that Floyd is a pussy for not facing Wlad? It's probably less stupid than your assertion that 147 is a natural weight for Floyd to be at... Floyd ain't the guy who walks around at 200lbs outside of fights fella, Hatton is.


hey Less_uppercut you just got knocked the fuck out:lol: :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[Lance_Uppercut]

just because he looks good at other weight classes doesn't mean he is natural for that weight:rofl did you ever stop to ask yourself if there was another reason hatton didn't look good at 147 besides weight.

being a hater I am sure you thought it prudent to discuss the first lame idea that popped into your infantile mind.

next time close your fucking mouth when grown folks are talking.:deal

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[Lance_Uppercut]

So lets penalise the absolute shit out of Floyd for fighting so well that he dominates his fight? That makes absolute perfect fucking sense.




hey Less_uppercut you just got knocked the fuck out:lol: :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

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[Lance_Uppercut]

Funny, this is probably the same type of lame fuck that thought Floyd should've tried to dominate Oscar at 154 and walk through his punches, rather than fight a defensive minded fight.

Hatton is the bigger man, period. He'll be bigger on fight night than Floyd is, period. Floyd will still win, period.

:lol: This is what you're resorting to?

I stated before the fight was signed it wouldn't be an action packled fight, as neither Mayweather or DLH fight that way little girl. Now go back to your barbies.

[bigtime9]

Funny, this is probably the same type of lame fuck that thought Floyd should've tried to dominate Oscar at 154 and walk through his punches, rather than fight a defensive minded fight.

Hatton is the bigger man, period. He'll be bigger on fight night than Floyd is, period. Floyd will still win, period.


lance calls himself the president of the floyd mayweather haters club, so any bullshit argument he can rummage up in that 2 cent mind of his gets layed out for us here at esb. as you can see he doesn't think very well:deal

[bigtime9]

This is what you're resorting to?

I stated before the fight was signed it wouldn't be an action packled fight, as neither Mayweather or DLH fight that way little girl. Now go back to your barbies.

coming from a guy who posts chicken pictures when he gets owned:lol: once again you get owned by your own words:deal

[Lance_Uppercut]

You told a lie, shitwit - you tried to show up Collazo as nothing more than bum of the month when in fact he had won a title at a very competitive division and defended the title.

Hatton won a belt at 147 - how the fuck is that not looking good to you? Because he didn't absolutely wipe his opponent out? Well fuck me, Floyd hasn't looked good since 140lbs when he dominated Gatti then!

Fuck, we better change the fight to 140 - Oh wait, Floyd TRIED to fight Hatton at 140 but Hatton said no, he needed a couple more years.

You're a fucking moron, too stupid to realise how repeatedly owned you've been so far.

:lol:

I made a simple mistake. I'm sure YOU'VE never made on right? But hey, go tell your boyfriends you OWNED me if that'll make you're day. Yea!! YOU FINALLY WON!!

[bigtime9]

You told a lie, shitwit - you tried to show up Collazo as nothing more than bum of the month when in fact he had won a title at a very competitive division and defended the title.

Hatton won a belt at 147 - how the fuck is that not looking good to you? Because he didn't absolutely wipe his opponent out? Well fuck me, Floyd hasn't looked good since 140lbs when he dominated Gatti then!

Fuck, we better change the fight to 140 - Oh wait, Floyd TRIED to fight Hatton at 140 but Hatton said no, he needed a couple more years.

You're a fucking moron, too stupid to realise how repeatedly owned you've been so far.


you're using common sense and logic blocky less_uppercut won't understand:rofl :nut

[Lance_Uppercut]

coming from a guy who posts chicken pictures when he gets owned:lol: once again you get owned by your own words:deal

"PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!
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[Lance_Uppercut]

you're using common sense and logic blocky less_uppercut won't understand:rofl :nut

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[Lance_Uppercut]

lance calls himself the president of the floyd mayweather haters club, so any bullshit argument he can rummage up in that 2 cent mind of his gets layed out for us here at esb. as you can see he doesn't think very well:deal

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[Lance_Uppercut]

And the dickhead asks why we're hostile towards him.

I think his mother dropped him on his head while Floyd Mayweather Sr and Roger Mayweather were fucking her.

That's the only reason he can be this retarded and this hateful.
:lol: You ever notice how little children invent situations or scenarios and pretend they are real to make themselves feel better? Probably not barbie.

And how hateful have I been? I said Hatton hasn't looked good @ 147, and I'm being SO HATEFUL? Says the little girl who started shit with me.

[bigtime9]

:lol: And the dickhead asks why we're hostile towards him.

I think his mother dropped him on his head while Floyd Mayweather Sr and Roger Mayweather were fucking her.

That's the only reason he can be this retarded and this hateful.



that could explain his dracula like attraction to anything negative said about floyd. I think he just a hateful scum sucker who is stuck living a miserable life in his mothers basement. I can't expalin his stupidity can you:rofl :lol:

[bigtime9]

You ever notice how little children invent situations or scenarios and pretend they are real to make themselves feel better? Probably not barbie.


coming from the one and only chicken man himself:rofl :nut do you feel better after posting your chicken pics:deal

[Lance_Uppercut]

coming from the one and only chicken man himself:rofl :nut do you feel better after posting your chicken pics:deal
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[Lance_Uppercut]

:lol:


that could explain his dracula like attraction to anything negative said about floyd. I think he just a hateful scum sucker who is stuck living a miserable life in his mothers basement. I can't expalin his stupidity can you:rofl :lol:

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[Lance_Uppercut]

It's always enjoyable to watch a pack of posters getting owned by a single poster.

My pleasure.:good

[Toopretty]

Lance has never owned anybody.The guy has a million posts but as usual its floyd hating about 50%..this guy is a pure hater. I never seen a positive post.....Floyd is still ducking the BELTLESS ONE marganobody huh...Time tells all things and fakers are exposed as they were.

[bigtime9]

My pleasure.:good

you actually think he was referring to you chicken boy:lol: :rofl :nut

[Lance_Uppercut]

Lance has never owned anybody.The guy has a million posts but as usual its floyd hating about 50%..this guy is a pure hater. I never seen a positive post.....Floyd is still ducking the BELTLESS ONE marganobody huh...Time tells all things and fakers are exposed as they were.

I don't claim to own anyone. I leave that for you children to do, so you can feel better.

But since you know so much about me, please tell me exactly, or even a little, about what I think of Floyd. Yoiu nuthuggers like to paint anyone you disagree with as some mindless hater. But since you brought it up, back it up.:deal

[Lance_Uppercut]

you actually think he was referring to you chicken boy:lol: :rofl :nut
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[bigtime9]

Lance has never owned anybody.The guy has a million posts but as usual its floyd hating about 50%..this guy is a pure hater. I never seen a positive post.....Floyd is still ducking the BELTLESS ONE marganobody huh...Time tells all things and fakers are exposed as they were.


too pretty black is one of lance's aliases:rofl :nut

[bigtime9]

I leave that for you children to do,

coming from a guy who posts chicken pictures in a boxing forum:lol: :rofl

[El Bombasto]

although a fight with williams would be much more challenging imo, you have to admit that the risk/reward is not there for floyd. casual fans have no idea who williams is and fighting such an active guy is too big a risk for a relatively small payday for floyd. although i think the guy is a prick, and has ducked people in the past, if i were in his shoes today, hatton would be my top priority fight.

[Lance_Uppercut]

coming from a guy who posts chicken pictures in a boxing forum:lol: :rofl

You won the..
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[Thom]

And the dickhead asks why we're hostile towards him.

I think his mother dropped him on his head while Floyd Mayweather Sr and Roger Mayweather were fucking her.

That's the only reason he can be this retarded and this hateful.

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[Toopretty]

I don't claim to own anyone. I leave that for you children to do, so you can feel better.

But since you know so much about me, please tell me exactly, or even a little, about what I think of Floyd. Yoiu nuthuggers like to paint anyone you disagree with as some mindless hater. But since you brought it up, back it up.:deal

For one thing, I just think you are too negative when it comes to Floyd. I dont think you are an extremist but you jump in on the fun when a anti-floyd campaign is on. You think Floyd ducked fighters, I dont think so. As we all can see Floyd and Camp are about the money. THERE IS NOBODY ON EARTH THAT COULD CONVINCE ME THAT ARUM WAS GOING TO SHELL OUT 8 MILL TO FLOYD FOR A NON PPV MARGARITO FIGHT THAT WOULD NOT DRAW FLIES TO SHIT. Arum is a promoter. His sole job is to start hype and talk shit to generate interest. I think, I am not sure, but I think that is when the Mayweather hater extremist gained momentum. I think Hatton is a joke fight along with most Mayweather haters. But, Hatton is tough and physical so he pretty much can hold his own with a guy like Floyd. This is a fight I wanted back at 140 as well as everybody to shut up the pro-Hatton huggers that were on high-octane after the Tsyu win. So this fight HADDDDDD TO HAPPPPEEEEENNN no matter what. This was destiny. Margo was a here today gone tomorrow fighter that I said he would be. He will be gone and stay gone. You can quote me on this. Anyway, Floyd is not scared to step in the ring with any fighter. If that was so he would of been scared shitless of a knock out crazed ODH on May 5. Through that whole fight a lot of people forget that ODH was trying to take Floyds head off for 12 rounds. I admit I was nervous as a fan, but Floyd was not. Scared my ass.

[Lance_Uppercut]

For one thing, I just think you are too negative when it comes to Floyd. I dont think you are an extremist but you jump in on the fun when a anti-floyd campaign is on. You think Floyd ducked fighters, I dont think so. As we all can see Floyd and Camp are about the money. THERE IS NOBODY ON EARTH THAT COULD CONVINCE ME THAT ARUM WAS GOING TO SHELL OUT 8 MILL TO FLOYD FOR A NON PPV MARGARITO FIGHT THAT WOULD NOT DRAW FLIES TO SHIT. Arum is a promoter. His sole job is to start hype and talk shit to generate interest. I think, I am not sure, but I think that is when the Mayweather hater extremist gained momentum. I think Hatton is a joke fight along with most Mayweather haters. But, Hatton is tough and physical so he pretty much can hold his own with a guy like Floyd. This is a fight I wanted back at 140 as well as everybody to shut up the pro-Hatton huggers that were on high-octane after the Tsyu win. So this fight HADDDDDD TO HAPPPPEEEEENNN no matter what. This was destiny. Margo was a here today gone tomorrow fighter that I said he would be. He will be gone and stay gone. You can quote me on this. Anyway, Floyd is not scared to step in the ring with any fighter. If that was so he would of been scared shitless of a knock out crazed ODH on May 5. Through that whole fight a lot of people forget that ODH was trying to take Floyds head off for 12 rounds. I admit I was nervous as a fan, but Floyd was not. Scared my ass.
I take it to the Floyd nuthuggers because they deserve it. Other then that, I don't even talk shit about Floyd.

I have NEVER said any fighter is scared of another fighter, and that includes Floyd.

Dude, I don't have to convince you of anything. Arum flat out made the offer to Floyd when he, at the time, had nothing on the table. That's not worth debating. Also not worth debating is the sincerity of it. And I cannot think of another fighter who would turn down so much money because they think, "there not worth it", especially when they say, "if it makes money, it makes sense." That's just plain ridiculous.

Anyway, I wanted them to fight at 140 too. But if Hatton and their team didn't think they were ready, then I can't blame then for saying no to the best fighter. Only a fool would take a fight they weren't ready for. At least they were honest and not making bullshit excuses.

[Toopretty]

I take it to the Floyd nuthuggers because they deserve it. Other then that, I don't even talk shit about Floyd.

I have NEVER said any fighter is scared of another fighter, and that includes Floyd.

Dude, I don't have to convince you of anything. Arum flat out made the offer to Floyd when he, at the time, had nothing on the table. That's not worth debating. Also not worth debating is the sincerity of it. And I cannot think of another fighter who would turn down so much money because they think, "there not worth it", especially when they say, "if it makes money, it makes sense." That's just plain ridiculous.

Anyway, I wanted them to fight at 140 too. But if Hatton and their team didn't think they were ready, then I can't blame then for saying no to the best fighter. Only a fool would take a fight they weren't ready for. At least they were honest and not making bullshit excuses.


He flat out made a statement. You can say anything out of your mouth. I guarantee there was no contract in front of Floyd for 8 mill. It was hype and propaganda. I dont need anybody to convince me that ARUM is full of shit. Always has been always will be. And has been proven. A WIN OVER MARANOBODY DONT MEAN SHIT TO ANYBODY. IF SO WILLIAMS WOULD BE RIDING KIND OF HIGH NOW. But I doubt he even gets a ppv fight anytime soon. Let alone a live body opponent. Oh yeah, floyd fought the champion in Baldomir for 8 mill. That fight did 300k ppv so that makes dollars and sense. So that argument of the Floyd haters has been destroyed utterly. And now MOFOs made up the fact Floyd had to pay Goosen from the ODH fight ..lol ..even when it was not even sure to come off as ODH was not impressed with Floyd after Baldomir.

[Lance_Uppercut]

He flat out made a statement. You can say anything out of your mouth. I guarantee there was no contract in front of Floyd for 8 mill. It was hype and propaganda. I dont need anybody to convince me that ARUM is full of shit. Always has been always will be. And has been proven. A WIN OVER MARANOBODY DONT MEAN SHIT TO ANYBODY. IF SO WILLIAMS WOULD BE RIDING KIND OF HIGH NOW. But I doubt he even gets a ppv fight anytime soon. Let alone a live body opponent. Oh yeah, floyd fought the champion in Baldomir for 8 mill. That fight did 300k ppv so that makes dollars and sense. So that argument of the Floyd haters has been destroyed utterly. And now MOFOs made up the fact Floyd had to pay Goosen from the ODH fight ..lol ..even when it was not even sure to come off as ODH was not impressed with Floyd after Baldomir.

Dude...you can't guarantee anything. Well, you can, but there's really no basis to your guarantee. Either way, all Floyd had to do was accept, and call Arum's bluff right?

Anyway, you're losing the point. It doesn't matter what you or any Floyd fan thinks of Margarito. He was a highly ranked WW and a long reigning titleholder and seen as a threat. At least seen as one by people who don't just post on message boards. You cannot say a win over him means nothing just because it means nothing to you.

Answer me this, do you HONESTY think Floyd would get 8 mill from Goosen for fighting Baldomir if he wasn't offered 8mill to fight Margarito from Arum?

[Toopretty]

Dude...you can't guarantee anything. Well, you can, but there's really no basis to your guarantee. Either way, all Floyd had to do was accept, and call Arum's bluff right?

Anyway, you're losing the point. It doesn't matter what you or any Floyd fan thinks of Margarito. He was a highly ranked WW and a long reigning titleholder and seen as a threat. At least seen as one by people who don't just post on message boards. You cannot say a win over him means nothing just because it means nothing to you.

Answer me this, do you HONESTY think Floyd would get 8 mill from Goosen for fighting Baldomir if he wasn't offered 8mill to fight Margarito from Arum?

As I said...FLOYD BALDOMIR MADE MONEY..IT was near sell out and made 300k ppv which compensates a joint purse of about 9 mill. Baldi only got 1. The point is Floyd made big money regardless. A win over Margarito means nothing to anybody hardly. AS I SAID, WILLIAMS STOCK WOULD OF FLEW SKY HIGH BUT HE IS STILL ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN. The WBO strap dont mean shit. Margarito is a threat to fighters that cant box or cant handle pressure. Two things that mayweather is not. Fighting Margarito who is a flat out nobody in boxing would of been a step back for floyd from OBTAINING HIS GOAL OF A FIGHT WITH ODH. Floyd is notorious for only going after the WBC belt as he always carried in every weight class. The others are alphabet soup belts to him. He fought the WBC champ in every weight. That is no damned coincidence. Why fight a nobody for the same money as fighting a more lucrative nobody who is the REAL welter champ by lineage. Boxing is by lineage not from some made up crappy WBO belt defended 9 times against contenders and pretenders. FLOYD DID THAT YEARS AGO.

[Lance_Uppercut]

As I said...FLOYD BALDOMIR MADE MONEY..IT was near sell out and made 300k ppv which compensates a joint purse of about 9 mill. Baldi only got 1. The point is Floyd made big money regardless. A win over Margarito means nothing to anybody hardly. AS I SAID, WILLIAMS STOCK WOULD OF FLEW SKY HIGH BUT HE IS STILL ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN. The WBO strap dont mean shit. Margarito is a threat to fighters that cant box or cant handle pressure. Two things that mayweather is not. Fighting Margarito who is a flat out nobody in boxing would of been a step back for floyd from OBTAINING HIS GOAL OF A FIGHT WITH ODH. Floyd is notorious for only going after the WBC belt as he always carried in every weight class. The others are alphabet soup belts to him. He fought the WBC champ in every weight. That is no damned coincidence. Why fight a nobody for the same money as fighting a more lucrative nobody who is the REAL welter champ by lineage. Boxing is by lineage not from some made up crappy WBO belt defended 9 times against contenders and pretenders. FLOYD DID THAT YEARS AGO.

No, a win over Margarito would've meant nothing to just you others who think alike.

[Toopretty]

No, a win over Margarito would've meant nothing to just you others who think alike.

Williams would be a headline attraction for beating the CHAMP..oh the fight was on showtime....my bad.

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Williams would be a headline attraction for beating the CHAMP..oh the fight was on showtime....my bad.
This really has nothing to do with anything you know. Now you;re just being pissy. Fighters do not become headliners or draws because of one win. Look at Sugar Shane. He beat the most popular fighter in the world in exciting fashion, and it did nothing. Does that mean it was a waste?

[Toopretty]

This really has nothing to do with anything you know. Now you;re just being pissy. Fighters do not become headliners or draws because of one win. Look at Sugar Shane. He beat the most popular fighter in the world in exciting fashion, and it did nothing.

Well it did make him the p4p best fighter. And Shane was household for a while but lost his next real big fight to Forrest.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Well it did make him the p4p best fighter. And Shane was household for a while but lost his next real big fight to Forrest.

Shane was never a household name. Maybe to people who are diehards already and already heard of him.

Look at it this way. Why did DLH and Shane fight anyway? What good would it have had for DLH had he won? Would it have been a meaningful win? Beating a guy who came up from 135 and hadn't defeated anyone worth mentioning @ 147 before that?

[bigtime9]

Look at it this way. Why did DLH and Shane fight anyway? What good would it have had for DLH had he won? Would it have been a meaningful win? Beating a guy who came up from 135 and hadn't defeated anyone worth mentioning @ 147 before that?

did duran beat anyone meaningful before he fought leonard at 147..logic is definitely not your strong point:lol:

[Lance_Uppercut]

did duran beat anyone meaningful before he fought leonard at 147..logic is definitely not your strong point:lol:
And who did Sal Sanchez beat to make him one of the best 130er ever? Answer that if you're not a CHICKEN!! :yep

[Toopretty]

Shane was never a household name. Maybe to people who are diehards already and already heard of him.

Look at it this way. Why did DLH and Shane fight anyway? What good would it have had for DLH had he won? Would it have been a meaningful win? Beating a guy who came up from 135 and hadn't defeated anyone worth mentioning @ 147 before that?

Shane was household after ODH..At least in my area I had to go at it verbally with the SHANIANS. Shane had a hardcore fan base. I never was a fan, I remember battling endlessly in the barbershop that Shane was not this phenom that was unbeatable. You are understating that time period. He was the man at the time. You didnt have to follow boxing to know who he was at all. He fell from grace after the Forrest beating.

[Toopretty]

I mean to take a poll. You can put a thread of who was more household Shane pre ODH or Shane post ODH. Or even better with the argument at hand. PW before Margarito or PW after Margarito. I'd say Shanes popularity increased 3-4 fold. While Williams is a king without a country still.

[bigtime9]

And who did Sal Sanchez beat to make him one of the best 130er ever? Answer that if you're not a CHICKEN!!

stick to the topic:deal

[El Bombasto]

I think Williams would beat Mayweather. The guy throws non-stop punches and is a lenthy southpaw.

me too, so the fight will never happen

[PATSYS]

PBF could have fought a real welterweight in Williams or even Mosely/Cotto. Instead he's done what he's always done and avoided the best competition possible instead to fight a light-welterweight who was clearly out of his depth when he moved up to 147!

Williams said he offered the fight to Fraud but Fraud turned it done, running scared as usual, like he does in most of his matches.

PBF's best wins are against a shot Gatti and a shot DLH.

Who's he gonna fight next, Ivan Calderon ?

Hatton is the best fight for PBF at this point and I, despte not a big fan of PBF, give it to him for fighting Hatton.

Williams is almost a nobody. He need to beat 2 or 3 named opponents before he can be given a shot at PBF.

[Loggo]

That's true, but Hatton has to come up to 147, a weight he doesn't perform well, he and his father admitted.Apparently what`s going to happen is that Hatton won`t quite tip the scales at 147,he`ll weigh slightly less to help keep his speed and manourvrability

[lillarry]

Williams is the weakest of the guys PBF could face. I would even pick PBF t o stop him.


You dont think a linky southpaw who throws constantly wont give Floyd trouble? Floyd will have to be more active than he has been lately against a guy like Williams.