The Greatest Chin of All-Time?

[Superheavyweight]

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[boxingcar]

No. McCall's chin is a top 3 best...but not the "greatest ever".
the greatest chin ever is not participating in boxing.
He used to participate in muaythai , K1 and mma competitions...

Mark Hunt's chin is in a league of his own.

As far as boxing is concerned , one of the best ever is Marion Wilson's and Zeljko Mavrovic's chin.

[box03]

Mccall does have the best chin the man has been boxing since 85 and still hasnt even been knocked down, Lewis still couldnt knock him down when he had both hands down looking away from Lewis during his breakdown in the ring in 97. Mark Hunt has nothing on Mccall.

[Toopretty]

Whatever Zakman says..I agree with whatever he posts...He is the ESB chin expert....

[boxingcar]

Mccall does have the best chin the man has been boxing since 85 and still hasnt even been knocked down, Lewis still couldnt knock him down when he had both hands down looking away from Lewis during his breakdown in the ring in 97. Mark Hunt has nothing on Mccall.

No , Mark Hunt took flush knee impacts , highkicks from from + 270 lbs fighters...even illegal blows in the back of the head (illegal knee strikes from + 300 lbs fighters)

shin impacts on the jaw...
actually , nothing compares to what Mark Hunt had to deal with...

the most powerful puncher in history can't even compare.
It's a bit like the fucking morons who come here and try to tell you that a gorilla would get tooled by Tyson even though Gorillas are 10 times stronger than the biggest NFL player you can imagine.

same goes with kicks and knees...

It is common to see fighters go down for 8 to + 10 minutes , unconscious , or going straight to the hospital or leaving the ring on a stretcher after a single impact...

Ignashov's HK to McCall jaw = goodnight...

Forget Hunt...
McCall is not "the" chin even in his own sport.
he's close to being the best , but not "the" best.

[kg0208]

No , Mark Hunt took flush knee impacts , highkicks from from + 270 lbs fighters...even illegal blows in the back of the head (illegal knee strikes from + 300 lbs fighters)

shin impacts on the jaw...
actually , nothing compares to what Mark Hunt had to deal with...

the most powerful puncher in history can't even compare.
It's a bit like the fucking morons who come here and try to tell you that a gorilla would get tooled by Tyson even though Gorillas are 10 times stronger than the biggest NFL player you can imagine.

same goes with kicks and knees...

It is common to see fighters go down for 8 to + 10 minutes , unconscious , or going straight to the hospital or leaving the ring on a stretcher after a single impact...

Ignashov's HK to McCall jaw = goodnight...

Forget Hunt...
McCall is not "the" chin even in his own sport.
he's close to being the best , but not "the" best.
You cannot use the absence of proof or something that never happened and therefore you don't know the outcome to prove something.

Have you ever seen Ignashov kick McCall to the jaw? No...you haven't. You are only guessing at what would happen. You also know that his kick CAN be taken to the jaw as you have seen it done. So unless you have seen McCall take that kick, you cannot say he would go down from it.

McCall has never been shaken, hurt, dazed or anything else in his career. So he may have the best chin ever. You cannot prove otherwise.

[box03]

No , Mark Hunt took flush knee impacts , highkicks from from + 270 lbs fighters...even illegal blows in the back of the head (illegal knee strikes from + 300 lbs fighters)

shin impacts on the jaw...
actually , nothing compares to what Mark Hunt had to deal with...

the most powerful puncher in history can't even compare.
It's a bit like the fucking morons who come here and try to tell you that a gorilla would get tooled by Tyson even though Gorillas are 10 times stronger than the biggest NFL player you can imagine.

same goes with kicks and knees...

It is common to see fighters go down for 8 to + 10 minutes , unconscious , or going straight to the hospital or leaving the ring on a stretcher after a single impact...

Ignashov's HK to McCall jaw = goodnight...

Forget Hunt...
McCall is not "the" chin even in his own sport.
he's close to being the best , but not "the" best. Different sports, its hard to compare the two. I thought Hunt was knocked out before, Im pretty sure hes been down in his career.

[El Bombasto]

vjdBWiUOMPk

perhaps wlad should start smoking crack

[Toopretty]

Wasnt mccall in numerous heating sparring matches with a PRIME Mike Tyson..thats what I heard..

[kg0208]

Wasnt mccall in numerous heating sparring matches with a PRIME Mike Tyson..thats what I heard..

Yes, and according to both Tyson and McCall, McCall was never down or hurt.

[boxingcar]

You cannot use the absence of proof or something that never happened and therefore you don't know the outcome to prove something.

Have you ever seen Ignashov kick McCall to the jaw? No...you haven't. You are only guessing at what would happen. You also know that his kick CAN be taken to the jaw as you have seen it done. So unless you have seen McCall take that kick, you cannot say he would go down from it.

McCall has never been shaken, hurt, dazed or anything else in his career. So he may have the best chin ever. You cannot prove otherwise.

Actually , the same could bet said about gorillas...
i've never seen Tyson vs a gorilla , but logic tells me that a gorilla would rip this guy's arms and kill him...

same goes for a hk...logic tells me that a shin impact from a guy of ignashov's size = instantly koed.

actually , forget ignashov for a moment there.
ANY kicks are by logic more powerful than any human punches.

do the experience yourself ,
take a ball , punch it , and see how far it goes...
then to the experience with your legs...

another example...
if i decide to skydive without a parachute , chances are that i'll end up dead on arrival (during the landing). I don't need to do it to have any proofs, it's just logical.

same goes with McCall's jaw vs a shin impact.

actually , now that i think about it , Hunt was almost koed once against jlb after a shin impact on the neck area..a prime jlb was aprox 260 or 270 lbs...Hunt was saved by the bell in that one.

the only downside of the hk is that you can rarely land it properly.
some do though...Aerts for example , used to land lots of flush hks in his prime... and without even forcing...he'd just ko his opponents and would sometime force them to leave on a stretcher...

even a 180 lbs fighter can ko a super heavy if he can land a flush impact...Hks are an enormous advantage (if you're a shitty puncher)

[kg0208]

Actually , the same could bet said about gorillas...
i've never seen Tyson vs a gorilla , but logic tells me that a gorilla would rip this guy's arms and kill him...

same goes for a hk...logic tells me that a shin impact from a guy of ignashov's size = instantly koed.

actually , forget ignashov for a moment there.
ANY kicks are by logic more powerful than any human punches.

do the experience yourself ,
take a ball , punch it , and see how far it goes...
then to the experience with your legs...

another example...
if i decide to skydive without a parachute , chances are that i'll end up dead on arrival (during the landing). I don't need to do it to have any proofs, it's just logical.

same goes with McCall's jaw vs a shin impact.

actually , now that i think about it , Hunt was almost koed once against jlb after a shin impact on the neck area..a prime jlb was aprox 260 or 270 lbs...Hunt was saved by the bell in that one.

the only downside of the hk is that you can rarely landed it properly.
some do though...Aerts for example , used to land lots of flush hks in his prime... and without even forcing...he'd just ko his opponents and would sometime force them to leave on a stretcher...

even a 180 lbs fighter can ko a super heavy if he can land a flush impact...Hks are an enormous advantage (if you're a shitty puncher)
They are not the same, your analogy doesn't work at all.

A gorilla and a man have never to your or my knowledge fought. We do know from science that a gorrilla is far stronger than a man.

You have seen Hunt take kick the the jaw. He didn't get KO'd. You have not seen McCall take a kick at all, much less a kick from the same man. So you have no evidence at all that McCall couldn't take the kick. You have more evidence that he could than that he could not.

In one case, you have no evidence of what would happen, but do have evidence that a gorilla is far stronger than a man.

In the other case you have evidence that a man CAN take the kick to the jaw, you just have decided that a particular individual couldn't take the kick without any evidence that he couldn't, and that one could because you have seen it. They are entirely different scenarios.

You cannot just decide that McCall couldn't take the kick....for all you know his jaw is as strong as the man you saw take the kick, as you have no evidence to the contrary. You CAN say Hunt has a more PROVEN jaw, in that he has taken stronger impact. But you cannot say that McCall couldn't take the kick. It is possible for a man to do it.

The gorilla thing is wholly impossible as we know that one blow from a gorilla is enough to end a mans life.

[SgrRyLeonard]

Marvelous Marvin Hagler could possibly have the best chin.

[Toopretty]

Actually , the same could bet said about gorillas...
i've never seen Tyson vs a gorilla , but logic tells me that a gorilla would rip this guy's arms and kill him...

same goes for a hk...logic tells me that a shin impact from a guy of ignashov's size = instantly koed.

actually , forget ignashov for a moment there.
ANY kicks are by logic more powerful than any human punches.

do the experience yourself ,
take a ball , punch it , and see how far it goes...
then to the experience with your legs...

another example...
if i decide to skydive without a parachute , chances are that i'll end up dead on arrival (during the landing). I don't need to do it to have any proofs, it's just logical.

same goes with McCall's jaw vs a shin impact.

actually , now that i think about it , Hunt was almost koed once against jlb after a shin impact on the neck area..a prime jlb was aprox 260 or 270 lbs...Hunt was saved by the bell in that one.

the only downside of the hk is that you can rarely land it properly.
some do though...Aerts for example , used to land lots of flush hks in his prime... and without even forcing...he'd just ko his opponents and would sometime force them to leave on a stretcher...

even a 180 lbs fighter can ko a super heavy if he can land a flush impact...Hks are an enormous advantage (if you're a shitty puncher)

Man this is a boxing site...take this UFC garbage rhetoric to a UFC site...clown..Fucking gay ass head kick.. who cares...faggots kick..this is fisticuffs..:bbb:bbb:bbb be gone.

[Marnoff]

Marvelous Marvin Hagler could possibly have the best chin.

Nope.

The only reason I can think of that people don't have George Chuvalo as number one chin of all time is that they don't know about him. His chin is undisputable as the best.

[dado]

Mark Hunt has the greatest chin of all time, he took a high kick from cro-cop, the greatest kicker ever and he went down for an 8 count in k1 then in pride he took another high kick from cro-cop and stayed on his feet,, hes taken knees to the head from wanderlei silva and didnt even get rocked, mccall couldnt take this its just logic, i know u say " how do u know when u never seen it happen" but its weird u will understand if u watchd more kickboxing or MMA its just not meant to happen, mark hunt is just an unatural animal and his chin shouldnt even be brought up in discussions like this coz its 5 leagues above anyone thats ever lived he puts his hands down and lets opponents hit him in the face with 4oz gloves, what a guy,,, as for mccall i still dont think he has the greatest chin in boxing maybe top 5, lets see if he fights wlad.

[andyZOR]

Mccall has a great chin indeed.

[dado]

i think marving hagler
goerge chuvalo
mavrovic ( u havent seen him fight enough)
and mike tyson ( took danny williams 26punches to drop him and he was still concious)

[kg0208]

Mark Hunt has the greatest chin of all time, he took a high kick from cro-cop, the greatest kicker ever and he went down for an 8 count in k1 then in pride he took another high kick from cro-cop and stayed on his feet,, hes taken knees to the head from wanderlei silva and didnt even get rocked, mccall couldnt take this its just logic, i know u say " how do u know when u never seen it happen" but its weird u will understand if u watchd more kickboxing or MMA its just not meant to happen, mark hunt is just an unatural animal and his chin shouldnt even be brought up in discussions like this coz its 5 leagues above anyone thats ever lived he puts his hands down and lets opponents hit him in the face with 4oz gloves, what a guy,,, as for mccall i still dont think he has the greatest chin in boxing maybe top 5, lets see if he fights wlad.

He fought Prime Lewis, sparred with Tyson, fought MANY punchers. He doesn't need a fight with Wlad to prove his chin.

For me, it's between McCall, Chuvalo, and p4p....McCullough.

[dado]

yes thats understandable enough, u have to put hagler in there too i think, he walked right into hearns

[Toopretty]

Look at all of us..lol talking about the best chins in a sport where you try not to get punched..lol WE ALL TURNED INTO LITTLE ZAKMAN

[they_killed_kenny]

mike tyson ( took danny williams 26punches to drop him and he was still concious)


If u base it just on that then why not having Ricardo Mayorge there instead of tyson..... Tito landed a shit ton of power pnches and the man took em,

[boxingcar]

They are not the same, your analogy doesn't work at all.

A gorilla and a man have never to your or my knowledge fought. We do know from science that a gorrilla is far stronger than a man.

You have seen Hunt take kick the the jaw. He didn't get KO'd. You have not seen McCall take a kick at all, much less a kick from the same man. So you have no evidence at all that McCall couldn't take the kick. You have more evidence that he could than that he could not.

In one case, you have no evidence of what would happen, but do have evidence that a gorilla is far stronger than a man.

In the other case you have evidence that a man CAN take the kick to the jaw, you just have decided that a particular individual couldn't take the kick without any evidence that he couldn't, and that one could because you have seen it. They are entirely different scenarios.

You cannot just decide that McCall couldn't take the kick....for all you know his jaw is as strong as the man you saw take the kick, as you have no evidence to the contrary. You CAN say Hunt has a more PROVEN jaw, in that he has taken stronger impact. But you cannot say that McCall couldn't take the kick. It is possible for a man to do it.

The gorilla thing is wholly impossible as we know that one blow from a gorilla is enough to end a mans life.

No my analogy works just fine.
but maybe not on eastsideboxing.com cause 99% of you people are a bit like creationists. They believe in their shit and dont care about facts and tested results.

Re-read my previous message.
remember when i talked about hunt's fight in which he was saved by the bell?...the only thing you can take away from Hunt is the fact that he rarely got hit with a deadly accurate and flush hk...

but , it's almost irrelevant because if it still lands...chances of being KOed are still very high.

Your argument about evidences brings me back to my previous examples. And yes , my analogy works. here's another one. if i get a gun and shoot , point blank on my temple...chances are...i'll end up dead. (or if i'm extremely lucky...maybe i'll end up blind)...

I don't need to test it on myself to know what will happen.
know what i mean?

Same goes for a HK.
if you follow muay thai competitions and if you've seen those occasions in which fighter A gets koed by fighter B via flush HK...It is extremely brutal....

it's a proven fact.
Legs are more powerful than arms. and when a professional kickboxer has the ability and technic to land perfect hks...trust me , Lennox Lewis's punches ?

are nothing , compared to kicks.
this isn't a debate of "my sport" is better than yours here.
it's not even about being "wrong" or right... it's about logic.

Hunt eating illegal blows (knee impacts in the back of the head) from a +300 lbs fighter...

Hunt getting kneed and highkicked on the face...

can't be compared to anything in pro boxing.

And yet , even he was almost koed by an average hk once (like i told you before). So i'm not saying that Hunt is invincible either.
far from it.

but a "solid" chin in boxing. never gets to be tested with knees & shins.

So McCall , best chin ever? i'm not buying it.
forget Hunt , like i said in my other message , McCall is not "the" best chin in his own sport to begin with.

I'd say top 3 best chin. but there's better.

One last thing...
ever seen Bonjasky vs Ray Mercer?

that's another interesting example...
Hks are not only more powerful (even your kicks are probably more powerful than any top punchers btw unless you're a skinny , starving midget...i'm exagerating here but you get the point)...

anyway mercer vs bonjasky...
also shows how different kicks are from punches...even when a fighter is not putting any efforts behind his kicks..it still hurts like hell..it's a very different kinda pain...
there's nothing like it in pro boxing...Nothing.

Take a big puncher like Tua for example...
Tua had to combo Ruiz's face to finish him...
and keep in mind that Tua is one of the most powerful puncher in recent boxing history. (along with shavers).

even if a mw can land a proper , flush hk...chances are , he'll only need a single impact to ko even a super heavy. (that is , "if" he landed it).

Hunt was knocked down 4 times in his career.
once against a cruiserweight (via hk)...Hunt got knocked down but got back up before the 8 count...

another time against a hw (took another hk on the side of the head)...knocked down but got up before the 8 count.

once against jlb , (but because of the low kicks...he couldn't walk properly...)

another time...(where he shoulda been koed but saved by the bell and had time to recuperate , just like Ali vs Henry Cooper)...also against jlb...(because of a shin impact on his neck)...he got up but wasn't responding to the ref and was saved just in time before the ref took any decisions...

Anyway , mcCall? yes , amazing chin but not "the" best in history.
what he's been tested with can't be compared...

oh and i repeat...
Ignashov hk to mccall's jaw ? little chances of surviving...i'm talking about a single impact here...maybe he'd get knocked down and maybe he'd still get up...but he'd still get knocked down...logically though..a flush hk = ko. (btw Hunt has never been tested by Ignashov either).

Ignashov isn't the best ever or anything (had the potential but...ended up not living to the expectations) , but i'm picking him as an ideal example because he's an ex- muay thai fighter (thai clinch is his speciality though)

[kg0208]

No my analogy works just fine.
but maybe not on eastsideboxing.com cause 99% of you people are a bit like creationists. They believe in their shit and dont care about facts and tested results.

Re-read my previous message.
remember when i talked about hunt's fight in which he was saved by the bell?...the only thing you can take away from Hunt is the fact that he rarely got hit with a deadly accurate and flush hk...

but , it's almost irrelevant because if it still lands...chances of being KOed are still very high.

Your argument about evidences brings me back to my previous examples. And yes , my analogy works. here's another one. if i get a gun and shoot , point blank on my temple...chances are...i'll end up dead. (or if i'm extremely lucky...maybe i'll end up blind)...

I don't need to test it on myself to know what will happen.
know what i mean?

Same goes for a HK.
if you follow muay thai competitions and if you've seen those occasions in which fighter A gets koed by fighter B via flush HK...It is extremely brutal....

it's a proven fact.
Legs are more powerful than arms. and when a professional kickboxer has the ability and technic to land perfect hks...trust me , Lennox Lewis's punches ?

are nothing , compared to kicks.
this isn't a debate of "my sport" is better than yours here.
it's not even about being "wrong" or right... it's about logic.

Hunt eating illegal blows (knee impacts in the back of the head) from a +300 lbs fighter...

Hunt getting kneed and highkicked on the face...

can't be compared to anything in pro boxing.

And yet , even he was almost koed by an average hk once (like i told you before). So i'm not saying that Hunt is invincible either.
far from it.

but a "solid" chin in boxing. never gets to be tested with knees & shins.

So McCall , best chin ever? i'm not buying it.
forget Hunt , like i said in my other message , McCall is not "the" best chin in his own sport to begin with.

I'd say top 3 best chin. but there's better.

One last thing...
ever seen Bonjasky vs Ray Mercer?

that's another interesting example...
Hks are not only more powerful (even your kicks are probably more powerful than any top punchers btw unless you're a skinny , starving midget...i'm exagerating here but you get the point)...

anyway mercer vs bonjasky...
also shows how different kicks are from punches...even when a fighter is not putting any efforts behind his kicks..it still hurts like hell..it's a very different kinda pain...
there's nothing like it in pro boxing...Nothing.

Take a big puncher like Tua for example...
Tua had to combo Ruiz's face to finish him...
and keep in mind that Tua is one of the most powerful puncher in recent boxing history. (along with shavers).

even if a mw can land a proper , flush hk...chances are , he'll only need a single impact to ko even a super heavy. (that is , "if" he landed it).

Hunt was knocked down 4 times in his career.
once against a cruiserweight (via hk)...Hunt got knocked down but got back up before the 8 count...

another time against a hw (took another hk on the side of the head)...knocked down but got up before the 8 count.

once against jlb , (but because of the low kicks...he couldn't walk properly...)

another time...(where he shoulda been koed but saved by the bell and had time to recuperate , just like Ali vs Henry Cooper)...also against jlb...(because of a shin impact on his neck)...he got up but wasn't responding to the ref and was saved just in time before the ref took any decisions...

Anyway , mcCall? yes , amazing chin but not "the" best in history.
what he's been tested with can't be compared...

oh and i repeat...
Ignashov hk to mccall's jaw ? little chances of surviving...i'm talking about a single impact here...maybe he'd get knocked down and maybe he'd still get up...but he'd still get knocked down...logically though..a flush hk = ko. (btw Hunt has never been tested by Ignashov either).

Ignashov isn't the best ever or anything (had the potential but...ended up not living to the expectations) , but i'm picking him as an ideal example because he's an ex- muay thai fighter (thai clinch is his speciality though)

I don't need to read all of that.

Do you have evidence that McCall cannot take a shot that Hunt can? It's a yes or no question.

I will not insult you by trying to group you in with people and insulting the group as a whole, indirectly insulting you. That was petty.

Talking about things that NO ONE can survive, is not a proper analogy to prove something that we know CAN happen. It's illogical to compare them.

[box03]

No my analogy works just fine.
but maybe not on eastsideboxing.com cause 99% of you people are a bit like creationists. They believe in their shit and dont care about facts and tested results.

Re-read my previous message.
remember when i talked about hunt's fight in which he was saved by the bell?...the only thing you can take away from Hunt is the fact that he rarely got hit with a deadly accurate and flush hk...

but , it's almost irrelevant because if it still lands...chances of being KOed are still very high.

Your argument about evidences brings me back to my previous examples. And yes , my analogy works. here's another one. if i get a gun and shoot , point blank on my temple...chances are...i'll end up dead. (or if i'm extremely lucky...maybe i'll end up blind)...

I don't need to test it on myself to know what will happen.
know what i mean?

Same goes for a HK.
if you follow muay thai competitions and if you've seen those occasions in which fighter A gets koed by fighter B via flush HK...It is extremely brutal....

it's a proven fact.
Legs are more powerful than arms. and when a professional kickboxer has the ability and technic to land perfect hks...trust me , Lennox Lewis's punches ?

are nothing , compared to kicks.
this isn't a debate of "my sport" is better than yours here.
it's not even about being "wrong" or right... it's about logic.

Hunt eating illegal blows (knee impacts in the back of the head) from a +300 lbs fighter...

Hunt getting kneed and highkicked on the face...

can't be compared to anything in pro boxing.

And yet , even he was almost koed by an average hk once (like i told you before). So i'm not saying that Hunt is invincible either.
far from it.

but a "solid" chin in boxing. never gets to be tested with knees & shins.

So McCall , best chin ever? i'm not buying it.
forget Hunt , like i said in my other message , McCall is not "the" best chin in his own sport to begin with.

I'd say top 3 best chin. but there's better.

One last thing...
ever seen Bonjasky vs Ray Mercer?

that's another interesting example...
Hks are not only more powerful (even your kicks are probably more powerful than any top punchers btw unless you're a skinny , starving midget...i'm exagerating here but you get the point)...

anyway mercer vs bonjasky...
also shows how different kicks are from punches...even when a fighter is not putting any efforts behind his kicks..it still hurts like hell..it's a very different kinda pain...
there's nothing like it in pro boxing...Nothing.

Take a big puncher like Tua for example...
Tua had to combo Ruiz's face to finish him...
and keep in mind that Tua is one of the most powerful puncher in recent boxing history. (along with shavers).

even if a mw can land a proper , flush hk...chances are , he'll only need a single impact to ko even a super heavy. (that is , "if" he landed it).

Hunt was knocked down 4 times in his career.
once against a cruiserweight (via hk)...Hunt got knocked down but got back up before the 8 count...

another time against a hw (took another hk on the side of the head)...knocked down but got up before the 8 count.

once against jlb , (but because of the low kicks...he couldn't walk properly...)

another time...(where he shoulda been koed but saved by the bell and had time to recuperate , just like Ali vs Henry Cooper)...also against jlb...(because of a shin impact on his neck)...he got up but wasn't responding to the ref and was saved just in time before the ref took any decisions...

Anyway , mcCall? yes , amazing chin but not "the" best in history.
what he's been tested with can't be compared...

oh and i repeat...
Ignashov hk to mccall's jaw ? little chances of surviving...i'm talking about a single impact here...maybe he'd get knocked down and maybe he'd still get up...but he'd still get knocked down...logically though..a flush hk = ko. (btw Hunt has never been tested by Ignashov either).

Ignashov isn't the best ever or anything (had the potential but...ended up not living to the expectations) , but i'm picking him as an ideal example because he's an ex- muay thai fighter (thai clinch is his speciality though) While you might be right in saying that Mccall couldnt eat an HK but thats put Hunt in a boxing ring with Lennox and see if he could eat a straight right, I will put money down that he cant because he never took a punch as hard as Lewis'. While Mccall never took a HK, Hunt never took a right like Lewis'. You cant say either one has a better chin than the other because both never felt what the other one felt.

[kg0208]

While you might be right in saying that Mccall couldnt eat an HK but thats put Hunt in a boxing ring with Lennox and see if he could eat a straight right, I will put money down that he cant because he never took a punch as hard as Lewis'. While Mccall never took a HK, Hunt never took a right like Lewis'. You cant say either one has a better chin than the other because both never felt what the other one felt.
Which is what I am saying. And you cannot use the analogy of something that can't be done to compare to something that CAN be done.

[brooklyn1550]

I'd go with George Chuvalo, Marvin Hagler, or Jake LaMotta

[El Bombasto]

can i ask why mccall wasn't interested in exchanging punches with lewis in the rematch???

because he's nuts

[Robbi]

I'd go with George Chuvalo, Marvin Hagler, or Jake LaMotta

Oliver McCall and Wayne McCullough.

[brooklyn1550]

Oliver McCall and Wayne McCullough.

Two good choices....McCullough's chin doesn't always get recognized and I tend to forget about him when discussing the best chins, but he had one made of titanium

[AJAX]

While you might be right in saying that Mccall couldnt eat an HK but thats put Hunt in a boxing ring with Lennox and see if he could eat a straight right, I will put money down that he cant because he never took a punch as hard as Lewis'. While Mccall never took a HK, Hunt never took a right like Lewis'. You cant say either one has a better chin than the other because both never felt what the other one felt.

could be 1 of the dumbest things I've ever read on ESB, I want you to really think about what you wrote and how stupid it really sounds.Your comparing a head kick from one of the hardest kickers in the sport of MMA which part of his shine landed against the side of his head against a punch with a boxing glove on.:-(

[Dempsey1238]

Barney Ross, Micky Walker, Harry Greb. All top chins.

[box03]

could be 1 of the dumbest things I've ever read on ESB, I want you to really think about what you wrote and how stupid it really sounds.Your comparing a head kick from one of the hardest kickers in the sport of MMA which part of his shine landed against the side of his head against a punch with a boxing glove on.:-( I would bet you a thousand dollars Hunt couldnt take a Lewis right hand flush, its retarded to think Hunts got the best chin compared to Mccall. Your comparing too different type of blows, just because you can take one doesnt mean you could take another.

[Jack]

could be 1 of the dumbest things I've ever read on ESB, I want you to really think about what you wrote and how stupid it really sounds.Your comparing a head kick from one of the hardest kickers in the sport of MMA which part of his shine landed against the side of his head against a punch with a boxing glove on.:-(It's nothing to do with that. It's preparation. A kick isn't nessecarily harder than a punch, for obvious reasons, but it gets a high knockout ratio because of it's unexpectancy. In MMA it's a lot harder to see a kick coming than it is for a punch in boxing.

Go look at the KO ratio for kicks in K-1 and you will see a big difference.

The fact kicks usually score KO's every time they land in MMA, doesn't mean they are harder than a punch. It's why you get knockdowns/knockouts of relatively weak looking punches. The chances are, if a boxer/fighter does not see a strike and it hits him clean, he will go down.

Hunt does have an excellent chin, I don't want to forget that. However, him taking a kick doesn't nessecarily prove it, because most people go down from them.

If he was in with Lewis, he would be out of his depth and would get caught with all kinds of shots he wouldn't see comng. Despite his chin, i'd expect him to go down several times.

[kg0208]

It's nothing to do with that. It's preparation. A kick isn't nessecarily harder than a punch, for obvious reasons, but it gets a high knockout ratio because of it's unexpectancy. In MMA it's a lot harder to see a kick coming than it is for a punch in boxing.

Go look at the KO ratio for kicks in K-1 and you will see a big difference.

The fact kicks usually score KO's every time they land in MMA, doesn't mean they are harder than a punch. It's why you get knockdowns/knockouts of relatively weak looking punches. The chances are, if a boxer/fighter does not see a strike and it hits him clean, he will go down.

Hunt does have an excellent chin, I don't want to forget that. However, him taking a kick doesn't nessecarily prove it, because most people go down from them.

If he was in with Lewis, he would be out of his depth and would get caught with all kinds of shots he wouldn't see comng. Despite his chin, i'd expect him to go down several times.

Have not looked at it that way. Fresh perspective on an old saying really. Its always the ones you don't see coming. I guess that would apply to kicks as well as punches.

[Jack]

I would bet you a thousand dollars Hunt couldnt take a Lewis right hand flush, its retarded to think Hunts got the best chin compared to Mccall. Your comparing too different type of blows, just because you can take one doesnt mean you could take another.
Exactly. Someone mentinoed Mercer earlier, but he was destroyed because he had no idea how to track a kick and he was caught blind. In boxing, that would happen with Hunt.

You can't take something you can't see. Simple as that.

[Ray_Robinson]

Lamotta had a great chin.

[AJAX]

I would bet you a thousand dollars Hunt couldnt take a Lewis right hand flush, its retarded to think Hunts got the best chin compared to Mccall. Your comparing too different type of blows, just because you can take one doesnt mean you could take another.

that's like saying he could take a blast from a shotgun but couldn't take one from a 9mm. If boxing car would show that highlight you would understand.

[Jack]

Have not looked at it that way. Fresh perspective on an old saying really. Its always the ones you don't see coming. I guess that would apply to kicks as well as punches.
I think so. I put this down to a granite chinned fighter like Ali taking huge shots from Frazier, but almost going down when caught with an arm punch in the corner. Same with Ali getting floored by Henry Cooper and Lewis against McCall.

If a boxer can see a punch coming, he can react to it before it hits him, softening the blow. If he has no idea it's coming, he's going to get floored.

[Jack]

that's like saying he could take a blast from a shotgun but couldn't take one from a 9mm. If boxing car would show that highlight you would understand.
A kick in MMA - Especially a high kick - Is not more powerful than a haymaker. And I'm guessing you can't factually prove it is.

[box03]

that's like saying he could take a blast from a shotgun but couldn't take one from a 9mm. If boxing car would show that highlight you would understand. Like Jack just said its the punch or the kick you dont see coming hurts you the most, Im not going to argue with you which ones harder a kick or punch because we both have our own opinions. But a shotgun compared to a 9mm thats a little bit of a stretch dont you think?

[2smart4u]

George Chuvalo. Next question.:rofl Incredable chin but why do you think it was better then the BULLS ? OLIVER hasnt even been hurt !

[AJAX]

A kick in MMA - Especially a high kick - Is not more powerful than a haymaker. And I'm guessing you can't factually prove it is.

no, and I don't have factual proof that a shootgun is more powerfull than a 9mm either, but if you watched cro cop highlights what his headkicks have done to people over the years you would understand, it's not the same getting punched with a boxing glove on even if it is form a guy like Lennox Lewis.

[AJAX]

Like Jack just said its the punch or the kick you dont see coming hurts you the most, Im not going to argue with you which ones harder a kick or punch because we both have our own opinions. But a shotgun compared to a 9mm thats a little bit of a stretch dont you think?

that not see it comin line is reminds me of polititions who can answer any question with a form of bs to give the response they want.

[kg0208]

no, and I don't have factual proof that a shootgun is more powerfull than a 9mm either, but if you watched cro cop highlights what his headkicks have done to people over the years you would understand, it's not the same getting punched with a boxing glove on even if it is form a guy like Lennox Lewis.

There is proof of the shotgun having a stronger impact than a 9mm, as the speed and impact and the mutilation it causes are documented.

[AJAX]

There is proof of the shotgun having a stronger impact than a 9mm, as the speed and impact and the mutilation it causes are documented.

I was being sarcastic, but I didn't have the documents to proove it.

[Jack]

no, and I don't have factual proof that a shootgun is more powerfull than a 9mm either, but if you watched cro cop highlights what his headkicks have done to people over the years you would understand, it's not the same getting punched with a boxing glove on even if it is form a guy like Lennox Lewis.
If you watch other MMA shows, you will see constant head kicks that do little damage. Like I said, in K-1, guys take head shots with ease. the reason Crocrop is so good is a combination of his actual power in the kick, and his ability to feint and time the kicks so the opponnt has a hard time reacting before it lands.

Whilst Hunt take that infamous kick is very impressive, he reacts to it before it lands. Other people Crocrop sent down to the mat for 5 minutes didn't.

Again, I'm not saying Hunt doesn't have a grade-A chin, but that kick isn't definitive proof of that.

[jecxbox]

Shit how about James Toney? The guy came from middleweight and took some of the hardest blows a boxer could ever take at heavyweight. And did it twice!

[Bikerjet]

randall "tex" cobb gets my vote. that dude took it as an insult if you didn't hit him flush 40 times a round. sorry if my typing sucks but I shattered my left wrist a couple of weeks back.

[kg0208]

Shit how about James Toney? The guy came from middleweight and took some of the hardest blows a boxer could ever take at heavyweight. And did it twice!

Well in general, but not specifically, I think fighters who have never been down take precedence over ones who have.

[hmi]

George Foreman

[box03]

Shit how about James Toney? The guy came from middleweight and took some of the hardest blows a boxer could ever take at heavyweight. And did it twice! He is certainly up there, its hard to tell when hes really hurt or not because he likes to play possum alot. The 2 times I seen him down were both balance issues, not him being hurt by an actual punch.

[kg0208]

He is certainly up there, its hard to tell when hes really hurt or not because he likes to play possum alot. The 2 times I seen him down were both balance issues, not him being hurt by an actual punch.
Johnson wasn't a balance issue though. He simply dropped him.

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

He wasn't hurt, but Toney could be dropped. Jones also stunned him at least once IMO. I know he did with a body shot, but thats not chin.

[box03]

Johnson wasn't a balance issue though. He simply dropped him. you might be right, havnt seen that fight in a while.

[kg0208]

you might be right, havnt seen that fight in a while.

I edited and gave you a link. Toney doesn't look hurt though.

[box03]

I edited and gave you a link. Toney doesn't look hurt though. His balance has always been an issue, rarely hurt though. I watched both fights with him and Peter many times and still cant tell if he was genuinelly hurt or not, very hard to tell.

[Keihule]

Jake LaMotta anybody?

[The Kurgan]

:rofl Incredable chin but why do you think it was better then the BULLS ? OLIVER hasnt even been hurt !

Actually, Bruce Seldon had him hurt, but couldn't knock him down.

[kg0208]

Actually, Bruce Seldon had him hurt, but couldn't knock him down.

Really? Never saw that....will see if I can find some footage. I have never seen McCall blink at a punch.

[Raggamuffin]

[quote=dado]Mark Hunt has the greatest chin of all time, he took a high kick from cro-cop, the greatest kicker ever and he went down for an 8 count in k1 then in pride he took another high kick from cro-cop and stayed on his feet,, hes taken knees to the head from wanderlei silva and didnt even get rocked, mccall couldnt take this its just logic, i know u say " how do u know when u never seen it happen" but its weird u will understand if u watchd more kickboxing or MMA its just not meant to happen, mark hunt is just an unatural animal and his chin shouldnt even be brought up in discussions like this coz its 5 leagues above anyone thats ever lived he puts his hands down and lets opponents hit him in the face with 4oz gloves, what a guy,,, as for mccall i still dont think he has the greatest chin in boxing maybe top 5, lets see if he fights wlad.

I disagree that Cro-cop is the best kicker ever.
Aerts throws it technically better ans in the history of muay thai there were a few thais that were much better(Put Pat Noi - Dieselnoi)

[mad_takamura]

erik morales.
haven't he have a granite chin after facing the likes of zaragoza,mccullough, espadas, junior jones,prime kelley,chi,ayala,and mab until he faced pac.
if he had'nt he would have the greatest chin of all time.:good

[T.S.]

Honorable mention for Nicolai Valuev.

[bigjake]

I'd go with George Chuvalo, Marvin Hagler, or Jake LaMotta

nobody took a flush heavyweight shot like george chuvalo
i've seen them all since 1958

[kg0208]

erik morales.
haven't he have a granite chin after facing the likes of zaragoza,mccullough, espadas, junior jones,prime kelley,chi,ayala,and mab until he faced pac.
if he had'nt he would have the greatest chin of all time.:good

No, because Morales was wobbled plenty of times. He would always just fight back. Morales chin isn't nearly as good as McCullough.

[ChrisPontius]

Valuev doesn't seem to bothered in the slightest sense by taking flush combinations on his giant head. But his chin hasn't been tested to the degree that Chuvalo's and McCall's have been. But i can't see Valuev getting stopped by a punch.

[razor]

McCall fought much bigger fighters than Chuvalo.

Marion Wilson.
Ross Puritty.

[Tettsuo]

A kick in MMA - Especially a high kick - Is not more powerful than a haymaker. And I'm guessing you can't factually prove it is.
I'd say a highkick can be more powerful than a haymaker. It all depends on the person using the technique.

It's very provable that a kick is more powerful than a punch based on the amount of weight and force behind each strike. I've trained in Muay Thai for a few years, and I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt that a well thrown kick from the same fighter will always be more powerful than a well thrown punch. That is a fact.

But in this discussion, you really can't compare a trained boxer's punches to a MMA fighter's kicks. MMA fighters tend not to master anything, but have good enough skills in alot of different areas to compete. That's why a MMA will never do as well in a boxing ring using boxing rules against a trained boxer. Nor will they do as well in a Judo ring against a pure Judo practitioner using Judo rules.

A boxer's punches will generally be far more powerful than a MMA's punches. The MMA fighter's kicks may or may not be stronger than a boxer's punch because they tend to throw their kicks with poor technique (again, they tend know enough to use that technique, but not enough to master it). That's why their leg kicks aren't that great to me. If a Muay Thai fighter kicks you in the leg, and you're not trained to take it, you're going down or walking with a serious limp. As for taking a head kick and keep going... that's insanely rare in Muay Thai. And these are fighters who are trained in the art form. A solid kick to the head will put anyone down for the count. The fact that this guy can take it head kick in MMA, isn't not really a testament to his chin, but a testament to the poor technique MMA's use sometimes. This also applies to knee strikes.

So I'd say comparing chins between these artforms isn't a good comparison at all.

[mario]

oliver mccall
mitch blood green
and marion wilson

they are chisled out of rock

[ChampionsForever]

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Lewis landed way harder shots on Tyson before he KO'd him and Tyson didnt wobble.

[cardstars]

My avatar was pretty tough

[SteveO]

McCall
Toney
Tua
Ali (down, but never KO'ed).

[kukoy]

Greatest chin?

My vote has to go to Jay Leno. :lol:

[Darthmage]

That's one of the most overrated sequences in boxing history. Not that impressive. You guys act and say sometimes that he just let his hands down and let Lewis unload on his face, which is not even close to true. He walked away with his hands down, and put his guard up when Lewis would let a two piece combo go. He landed maybe 3 or 4 flush shots the whole time, and none were KO punches. Not that impressive at all. Stop overrating the hell out of this sequence. Though McCall did have a great chin.

They WERE KO shots. Even though McCall was letting his hands down he was actually trying not to get caught by them and he was frustrated as hell. Imagine how he felt. His opponent was putting on a clinic and he didn't have the skills to do anything at all. Thats why he broke down. He got nailed with some nasty shots.

[mightyd40]

i have always given the chin award to jake lamotta though i see a bunch on here whom have excellent ones.

[ChampionsForever]

At heavyweight Ali had the greatest bar none, nobody could have taken that punch Frazier floored him with in the 15th and got up like nothing happened, both Fraziers feet were off the floor when it landed! that was a brutal left hook!.

[ChrisPontius]

Someone with the "greatest chin bar none" does not get floored by a 180lb Henry Cooper, and not only floored, but badly hurt. He even sat up from his stool between rounds, which was right after the KD. Ali had an excellent chin but not the greatest chin. It was his excellent chin coupled with excellent survival instinct, heart, etc, which made him hard to stop. But his chin was not impregnable like Chuvalo's or McCall's were.

[T.S.]

Valuev doesn't seem to bothered in the slightest sense by taking flush combinations on his giant head. But his chin hasn't been tested to the degree that Chuvalo's and McCall's have been. But i can't see Valuev getting stopped by a punch.

Has Valuev ever been backed up by a punch? I don't think he's ever been wobbled, pinned against the ropes or even fazed that I know of.
Chagaev tactically out boxed him but I don't think Valuev has ever really been hurt so far...
Jury still out but maybe good flush over hand right by Wlad and TIMBER
Ref better run for his life :lol:

[elindiomonzon]

its weird that nobody said baldomir

[My dinner with Conteh]

At heavyweight Ali had the greatest bar none



The best 'bar none' doesn't get saved by the bell and smelling salts to help revive him in one of his fights.

[T.S.]

The best 'bar none' doesn't get saved by the bell and smelling salts to help revive him in one of his fights.

Cooper knocked the shit out of Ali and had him out. Ali given lots of time to recover got damn lucky that night. Not saying Cooper is better fighter but he had Ali KO'd .

Frazier gave Ali good decking and Norton broke Ali's jaw.

[Darthmage]

Cooper knocked the shit out of Ali and had him out. Ali given lots of time to recover got damn lucky that night. Not saying Cooper is better fighter but he had Ali KO'd .

Frazier gave Ali good decking and Norton broke Ali's jaw.

This post is full of fail and I will not go as far as to explain why. Please go watch the Ali-Cooper fight and count how many extra seconds Ali had to recover.

[fightfanatic1]

the greatest chin of all time is hands down Joe Grim. Check him out in Boxing Rec if you need proof. *don't know if that is allowed, to post the link*

but he didn't win very many fights but until late in his career the guy was almost never KO'd. and he even fought the fabled Jack Johnson

[My dinner with Conteh]

This post is full of fail and I will not go as far as to explain why. Please go watch the Ali-Cooper fight and count how many extra seconds Ali had to recover.


70, an extra 10 seconds.

[hellblazer]

Marvin Hagler

[box03]

LMAO!!! You really don't seem to know much about the situation. He was acting like that because he was a huge drug addict and had just coked up before the match, right before. He shouldn't have even been fighting, it had nothing to do with the way Lennox was performing. Still top chin in the game, never been down in the amateurs or in his career from 85-07. Only Heavywieght champ in history that could say hes never been down in over 20 years of boxing.

[Robbi]

Two good choices....McCullough's chin doesn't always get recognized and I tend to forget about him when discussing the best chins, but he had one made of titanium

He never had trouble taking Hamed punches, who was arguably the hardest hitting featherweight over the last 10 years. McCullough had no business fighting at that weight 9 years ago, never mind sharing it with the worlds best at the time.

Morales' chilling power was at its most potent at super-bantamweight. Again McCullough goes the distance. He even had the cheek to do the Ali shuffle seconds after Morales bounced a combination off his chin.

Harrison maybe never quite had the chilling power that Hamed possessed, but he was a huge featherweight. He dwarfed McCullough physically, which is an understatement actually. McCullough took a serious pounding over the 12 rounds, but again never really looked like going down.

[natedog]

How come Mills had to stop it? No way in hell was Oliver hurt, or even in trouble. Lewis landed nothing but glancing shots, and Oliver was never hurt at all. Mcall was making a statement that nothing Lewis had in his arsenal could hurt him. It was like saying "didnt hurt", every time Lewis landed something. Not a bad idea. ... :bbb Mcall was just looking to uncork a big shot right when Lewis got complacent. This was the turning point in Olivers career, and if the fight would've continued as it should, he could've won! Bad stoppage, IMO.

[MSTR]

No. McCall's chin is a top 3 best...but not the "greatest ever".
the greatest chin ever is not participating in boxing.
He used to participate in muaythai , K1 and mma competitions...

Mark Hunt's chin is in a league of his own.

As far as boxing is concerned , one of the best ever is Marion Wilson's and Zeljko Mavrovic's chin.
Mark Hunts is phenomanel. WHat about Tex Cobb?

[box03]

How come Mills had to stop it? No way in hell was Oliver hurt, or even in trouble. Lewis landed nothing but glancing shots, and Oliver was never hurt at all. Mcall was making a statement that nothing Lewis had in his arsenal could hurt him. It was like saying "didnt hurt", every time Lewis landed something. Not a bad idea. ... :bbb Mcall was just looking to uncork a big shot right when Lewis got complacent. This was the turning point in Olivers career, and if the fight would've continued as it should, he could've won! Bad stoppage, IMO. I like Oliver Mccall myself but the man had a breakdown in the ring, he was obviously not in the right state of mind in that fight. If you watch the fight you will see Mills Lane asking Mccall if he wants to continue, he shook his yes and then no what did you want mills to do in that position.

[Zakman]

Whatever Zakman says..I agree with whatever he posts...He is the ESB chin expert....

McCall certainly belongs in the discussion when you're talking about the greatest chins of all time - along with Chuvalo, Hagler if you're talking P4P. Like others have said, journeyman Marion Wilson is another.

[sues2nd]

Whatever Zakman says..I agree with whatever he posts...He is the ESB chin expert....

:lol: :lol: :lol:

:good

(I do think its Mccall, tho there are a few that can lay claim...)

[kg0208]

He never had trouble taking Hamed punches, who was arguably the hardest hitting featherweight over the last 10 years. McCullough had no business fighting at that weight 9 years ago, never mind sharing it with the worlds best at the time.

Morales' chilling power was at its most potent at super-bantamweight. Again McCullough goes the distance. He even had the cheek to do the Ali shuffle seconds after Morales bounced a combination off his chin.

Harrison maybe never quite had the chilling power that Hamed possessed, but he was a huge featherweight. He dwarfed McCullough physically, which is an understatement actually. McCullough took a serious pounding over the 12 rounds, but again never really looked like going down.

I am not even sure it's arguable that Hamed was the hardest hitting FW in the past 10 years.

[SugarShane_24]

I think George Chuvalo takes it. He may have been stopped but he sure isn't knocked down in any fight. And he had nearly ninety of them.


He's been in front of anyone who can dish out punishment, two of which were named Joe Frazier and George Foreman.


Lamotta also takes a spot here.

[samita]

i agree, mccall greatest chin of all time.

chuvalo wasn't bad either, he was catching bombs from the hardest puncher in heavyweight history (IMO) in Foreman and it didn't seem to bother him that much
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[DanePugilist]

No. McCall's chin is a top 3 best...but not the "greatest ever".
the greatest chin ever is not participating in boxing.
He used to participate in muaythai , K1 and mma competitions...

Mark Hunt's chin is in a league of his own.

As far as boxing is concerned , one of the best ever is Marion Wilson's and Zeljko Mavrovic's chin.Is that the guy with the mohawk? If yes, then his chin was incredible.

McCalls display vs Lewis in the clip was a farce. Lewis could have clipped him at will, but didn't.

BTW - McCullough has probably learned Andrade how to deflect blows to take off the power of the punches.

[JAM Killer]

Bowe and McCall and Ali stand out to me right now.

[Holmes' Jab]

From a HW point of view definitely George Chuvalo and then Oliver McCall.

[Bummy Davis]

Lamotta,

[The taff]

Wayne McCullough is up there
Hagler
McCall


And i think Baldimor has a great chin

[RonnieHornschuh]

mccall surely has one of the best chins along with marion wilson, but nobody is un-ko-able. he just wasn't hit with the right shot yet. that last round from mccall, like mentioned before, is impressing, but not that much like some say. he didn't get hit the whole round hands down by lewis powershots, he avoided lennox and got hit by 3 or 4 solid shots, but none of them were in the rahman-lewis II or klitschko-brock league.
about high kicks: a high kick is said to be four times harder than a punch, maybe two times harder than the shots of the hardest punchers who throw around 1000 psi. when mccall gets such a 2000 psi high or spinning back kick off guard, it's ovah!

[Marnoff]

McCall
Toney
Tua
Ali (down, but never KO'ed).

How can so many people not even MENTION George Chuvalo? This is ludicrous.

[Marnoff]

At heavyweight Ali had the greatest bar none, nobody could have taken that punch Frazier floored him with in the 15th and got up like nothing happened, both Fraziers feet were off the floor when it landed! that was a brutal left hook!.

Chuvalo would have taken it and not even have gone down.

[Marnoff]

Still top chin in the game, never been down in the amateurs or in his career from 85-07. Only Heavywieght champ in history that could say hes never been down in over 20 years of boxing.

So then you're at least admitting to never having heard the name, "George Chuvalo"?

[rodney]

Nope.

The only reason I can think of that people don't have George Chuvalo as number one chin of all time is that they don't know about him. His chin is undisputable as the best.

Absolutely.
The best chin.
The toughest.
The most balls.
Class of his own.

[Rise Above]

Jake LaMotta anybody?

Thats what I was thinking.

[Bill1234]

Nope.

The only reason I can think of that people don't have George Chuvalo as number one chin of all time is that they don't know about him. His chin is undisputable as the best.

THANK YOU. Its about time someone here knows who Chuvalo is. Then again, what should I expect from the gerneral section, no offence to the people who acctually know about boxing's history, but this section is made fun of regulary in the history section. But anyways, Chuvalo's chin is definately #1. He fought Foreman, Frazier, Baker, Ali, Bonavena, Terrel, Quarry, and Ellis.

[Boxfanman]

There are many fighters with good chins. The ones that get knocked down and get up represent a fighter with a good chin. When you talk about Shavers hitting Ali or Holmes, or Smokin Joe hitting Ali, you're talking about demonmstration of a good chin.

[Bill1234]

No, thats heart. Chin is being able to take the shots with out going down, hurt or not. Heart is getting up.

[Boxfanman]

Fighters that can get knocked down and get back up represent good chins. Ali and Holmes demonstrated this clearly in their fights with the likes of Enie Shavers. What also comes to mind is the Holmes/Snipes fight.
How to determine the "grestest" chin is another story. But, I am sure good points can be made to justify fighters that truly stand out in this section of the game.

Hang tight guys.

[Lacyace]

Yeah, it's Chuvalo. The thing about Chuvalo is he was struck by some great punchers and still never went to the floor. That was one granite chin.

[T.S.]

This post is full of fail and I will not go as far as to explain why. Please go watch the Ali-Cooper fight and count how many extra seconds Ali had to recover.

Ali was down and out thru the ropes saved by the bell and given smelling salt to recover. Cooper lost due to nasty cut in next rnd.

[T.S.]

70, an extra 10 seconds.

Sounds about right. Ali was given smelling salt too.

[PH|LLA]

what a travesty of a fight

[Bill1234]

Fighters that can get knocked down and get back up represent good chins. Ali and Holmes demonstrated this clearly in their fights with the likes of Enie Shavers. What also comes to mind is the Holmes/Snipes fight.
How to determine the "grestest" chin is another story. But, I am sure good points can be made to justify fighters that truly stand out in this section of the game.

Hang tight guys.

Nope, chin is not going down. Louis had a bad chin, Patterson had a bad chin. They both went down a lot. BUT they had heart, and they got up a lot too. Holmes is mainly known for his iron chin, reccuperative powers, savvy, guille, jab, and heart. If chin was getting up too, then almost everyone has an iron chin.

[Blacc Jesus]

perhaps wlad should start smoking crack
:rofl:rofl

I gotta say Chuvalo.

[bill poster]

Hagler p4p best chin

[Ted Stickles]

Nope.

The only reason I can think of that people don't have George Chuvalo as number one chin of all time is that they don't know about him. His chin is undisputable as the best.

Chuvalos chin iwas like granite

[EpsilonAxis]

Chuvalo never so much as flinched from a shot.

[Grinder]

Mark Hunt has the greatest chin of all time, he took a high kick from cro-cop, the greatest kicker ever and he went down for an 8 count in k1 then in pride he took another high kick from cro-cop and stayed on his feet,, hes taken knees to the head from wanderlei silva and didnt even get rocked, mccall couldnt take this its just logic, i know u say " how do u know when u never seen it happen" but its weird u will understand if u watchd more kickboxing or MMA its just not meant to happen, mark hunt is just an unatural animal and his chin shouldnt even be brought up in discussions like this coz its 5 leagues above anyone thats ever lived he puts his hands down and lets opponents hit him in the face with 4oz gloves, what a guy,,, as for mccall i still dont think he has the greatest chin in boxing maybe top 5, lets see if he fights wlad.

Did you take too many high kicks to the head? It is not logic, it is your perception. If Hunt can take it, why can't McCall?

McCall has never been hurt, the logic is that it is very difficult to tell how great his chin really is based on that fact.

[Grinder]

Marciano was off his feet for a short time. A very good chin.

[Daruf]

Looking at the video i wonder why the ref stopped the Foreman - Chuvalo fight.
Sure he got hit by a good shot but the follow up barrage was mostly missing or blocked..... for sure he did not look hurt in the least.
What i am a little surprised about and admittedly because i have not seen that much about Chuvalo is that he did alot of good bodywork that seemed to bother George.... i wonder what would happen if the fight had continued.

[knockout]

Jason Lizau

[Marnoff]

Looking at the video i wonder why the ref stopped the Foreman - Chuvalo fight.
Sure he got hit by a good shot but the follow up barrage was mostly missing or blocked..... for sure he did not look hurt in the least.
What i am a little surprised about and admittedly because i have not seen that much about Chuvalo is that he did alot of good bodywork that seemed to bother George.... i wonder what would happen if the fight had continued.

If Chuvalo had been able to weather the storm that Foreman brought to him, he likely could have won in the end. He is a strong fighter who works the body and has a phenomenol chin, and Foreman is known to tire.

[Blacc Jesus]

Right after the ref stopped the fight Chuvalo said something to the effect of 'What are you, kidding?' :lol:
That's a tough mofo.

[Boyd]

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[Marnoff]

Right after the ref stopped the fight Chuvalo said something to the effect of 'What are you, kidding?' :lol:
That's a tough mofo.

Yep, Chuvalo was kind of shelling up to avoid being hit cleanly when it was stopped. Things may have been very different if the referee had let this go and Foreman tired out as expected after putting everything into a knockout.