View Full Version : Honestly, how do u think COTTO/MOSLEY is gonna pan out?
41fever
09-17-2007, 02:21 AM
I think Shane has all the tools, but cannot deal with a relentless power puncher in Cotto for a full twelve. I think Shane will get the better exchanges and may even score an early KD, but eventually the pressure from Miguel will ware Shane down and the Puerto Rican fighter will clinch the latter portion of the fight to retain his WBA strap.
Dr Gonzo
09-17-2007, 02:23 AM
Mosley UD - too much ring smarts and great speed; i think alot of people are wrongly doubting his ability to still throw great power punches as well
psychopath
09-17-2007, 02:27 AM
Honestly as I can . . . it's a 50/50 fight where I can't chose a winner. A single power punch can change the outcome of this fight.
WhataRock
09-17-2007, 02:28 AM
Cotto wears Shane down and sweeps the later rounds after a close start.
Gonna be a gruelling fight I think, Both are tough and both can punch but arent massive one punch ko artists. Both have that power that can grind you down, Cotto more for his concussive power and Shane more for his quickness and awkwardness.
Really if Shane doesnt have a whole lot left I think Cotto can stop him but if Mosley is ageing like fine wine and comes in pumped could be real close.
Doomas
09-17-2007, 02:30 AM
I think Shane has all the tools, but cannot deal with a relentless power puncher in Cotto for a full twelve. I think Shane will get the better exchanges and may even score an early KD, but eventually the pressure from Miguel will ware Shane down and the Puerto Rican fighter will clinch the latter portion of the fight to retain his WBA strap.
As Mosley himeslf said, cotto's style is better for him, he's used to guys who try to bully him, I think we'll see some big action in first 6 rounds, and then fight will turn to Mosley backing off to the ropes (becouse I doubt he can go all 12 toe to toe ) while still scoring big shots on Cotto's body and chin. UD for Mosley.
We might see one or few knockdowns but it wont be Mosley on the floor, I doubt Cotto can tag mosley harder than Forrest did in their first fight (and it was perfect upercut).
bb251
09-17-2007, 03:10 AM
Should be a war... I'll put my scratch on Mosley by split decision or late stoppage...
Robot16
09-17-2007, 03:15 AM
I think it is a very close fight 50-50 or give the edge to Mosley, i think mosley is the favourite, but the downside is his age.
But i would say mosley would have to be the favourite imo.
Should be a great fight.
GARCIA
09-17-2007, 03:19 AM
Bell rings.
Cotto and Mosley come to center ring.
Exchange punches.
Cotto goes down.
He stays down.
Round ends.
Mosley wins.
liljp361
09-17-2007, 03:19 AM
Cotto wears Shane down and sweeps the later rounds after a close start.
Gonna be a gruelling fight I think, Both are tough and both can punch but arent massive one punch ko artists. Both have that power that can grind you down, Cotto more for his concussive power and Shane more for his quickness and awkwardness.
Really if Shane doesnt have a whole lot left I think Cotto can stop him but if Mosley is ageing like fine wine and comes in pumped could be real close.
You dont think Mosleys overhand right can possibly batter Cotto...??
knockout
09-17-2007, 04:52 AM
Shane will start off fast winning the early rounds but Cotto will adjust to it in the mid rounds rockin Shane with some power punches and knocking him down,the relantless pressure from Cotto will overweam him,
Cotto by tko in the late rounds.
rendog67
09-17-2007, 04:54 AM
i think either way we could see a rematch after this one a very close fight and if i would have to pick Cotto close decision.
Ambition_Def
09-17-2007, 05:08 AM
Shane has really developed his boxing skills in absence of his strength (the balco thing). He spends alot of time now moving away and picking his shots. Which really isn't the way to get Cotto imo. I think to get Cotto you have to press him and put some hurt on him, just like Torres and Abdulaev tried to do.
Cotto is a smart guy. He's all business in there and doesn't get rattled. Unlike alot of other opponents he won't lose his cool trying to find Mosely. At least that is my personal opinion. I also don't believe Mosely has the type of power that would be required to discourage Cotto, as we've seen Cotto continue to come forward, bomb after bomb from Torres.
The way I see this playing out is a very tactical matchup with Cotto finding the mark more often as the fight goes on. Mosely will do what he does, moving away and picking shots but he will find Cotto getting closer and closer every round. This won't be a thinking man versus a dumb brawler. Cotto thinks in there just as much. Mosely is gonna find that out come fight night.
Cotto UD.
lillarry
09-17-2007, 06:26 AM
If Mosley can stick and move and keep Cotto from cutting off the ring I think he has a chance on winning a SD of UD. But if he chooses to engage and try to fight on the inside, it will prime picking for Cotto to land those famous body shots and win via late TKO.
Ray_Robinson
09-17-2007, 07:39 AM
I am really unsure as to who will win this but either way I think Cotto will have his hardest fight yet. I'm guessing early rounds to Mosley, with Cotto taking the later rounds with his body punching.
achillesthegreat
09-17-2007, 07:42 AM
It isn't hard. Cotto as usual will show he can box a bit but ultimately he will be a brawler. He will methodically break Mosley down and by the championship rounds Mosley will face a rising tide he cannot contain. Same way Cotto faces every boxer. He plays a bit of a catch up and then puts them in a world of hurt.
Mosleys game will be to not allow Cotto to catch up - easier said than done.
MrMagic
09-17-2007, 07:51 AM
I see two possibilities in this fight. One is Cotto by SD/close UD and the other is Shane by convincing UD. Cotto will ofcourse go after Shane, try to back him up to the ropes and unleash some of the powerpunches, and he's obviously going to have Shane on the ropes at some point in the fight, hopefully for Shane it doesn't happend early, because Cotto feints better then anyone in boxing today, he would find the body some way.
Mosley is a boxer puncher with superb speed and ringsmarts, this is really going to be a classic fight.. Mosley have a perfect overhand right, a perfect short left hook that put Vargas on the canvas, his speed is next to unbelievable and he's more experienced than any of the guys out there today. Problem is, Shane will have to be on his back foot for most of the fight, he's going to have to move back and counter, potshot at Cotto all night long, ofcourse he can do this but he has to stay off the ropes, we saw Vargas getting uncomfortably close in their first encounter, now this is what we don't want to see happend against Cotto (IF We're Shane fans:yep).
Ofcourse Cotto is vulnerable when he's moving in, and if Shane can use his speed and power to tag Cotto coming in, he could get a quick knockout and upset the boxing world, but recently Cotto's chin has held up pretty good so I don't see it happening without a doubt. One thing is for sure, if Cotto stops Mosley, then I'm going to be fvcking surprised, because as I see it right now it only happends one out of 20-30 fights at best.
My money is on Shane by convincing victory, he is the only man out there that can put a beating on PBF.. so this is his destiny. :deal
Mosley has the stamina,chin,experience and strength to take anything cotto has all night,but can cotto take mosley's counter-punching and combinations all night.Nobody has ever broken down mosley and if u watch his fights u will see he get's stronger as the fight goe's on,if mosley could land punches on a great defensive fighter like collazo,Cotto's defense along with his bull rushing face first style will be his downfall.
Cotto wont break down mosley and i doubt he even wins a round,if a 37 year old urkal can give cotto problems,what in the hell do u think mosley can do,i like cotto,but right now he's not ready.
MacManJr.
09-17-2007, 08:55 AM
MOsley TKO Round 9. I'm sick of explaining it too.
Relentless
09-17-2007, 09:54 AM
Mosley has the stamina,chin,experience and strength to take anything cotto has all night,but can cotto take mosley's counter-punching and combinations all night.Nobody has ever broken down mosley and if u watch his fights u will see he get's stronger as the fight goe's on,if mosley could land punches on a great defensive fighter like collazo,Cotto's defense along with his bull rushing face first style will be his downfall.
Cotto wont break down mosley and i doubt he even wins a round,if a 37 year old urkal can give cotto problems,what in the hell do u think mosley can do,i like cotto,but right now he's not ready.
isn't that the same with cotto?
The time has come for new blood in the Welterweight, Middleweight and Super Middleweight Divisions. This fall, Mosley, Taylor and Calzaghe will fall, hard.
isn't that the same with cotto?Yea,but mosley's been in there with bigger guy's and better opposition,like homeboy said i'm sick of explaining about this fight,just wait until after the fight and u will see why cotto doesn't belong in the ring with mosley.
The time has come for new blood in the Welterweight, Middleweight and Super Middleweight Divisions. This fall, Mosley, Taylor and Calzaghe will fall, hard.I have it the opposite and i think mosley,taylor and calzaghe will all win there matches in impressive fashion,mosley tko,taylor ud and calzaghe 10 round tko
BITCH ASS
09-17-2007, 10:21 AM
I think Cotto is gonna take it.
I think he's the younger guy coming up with more to prove and more fire.
There is going to be a lot of exchanges in this fight and probably a knockdown or two, but I'm going with Cotto.
I think Cotto will break Mosley down.
brooklyn1550
09-17-2007, 10:23 AM
Cotto by decision
He will have trouble early, but adjust, settle in, and start to really pressure and rip to the body. I think he will take the championship rounds to secure a decision in a great fight.
Morrissey
09-17-2007, 10:27 AM
This won't be close.
Shane will use his smart, boxing skills and what is left of his KO power to upset Cotto.
Either a TKO or UD for Shane. Cotto will be hardpressed to find his rhythm against the veteran.
BITCH ASS
09-17-2007, 10:28 AM
This won't be close.
Shane will use his smart, boxing skills and what is left of his KO power to upset Cotto.
Either a TKO or UD for Shane. Cotto will be hardpressed to find his rhythm against the veteran.
You honestly believe that this won't be close?
Morrissey
09-17-2007, 10:47 AM
You honestly believe that this won't be close?
It won't be as close as some people think it would. Shane will show his boxing skills, and no, he won't do a Judah here, he is mentally thougher than him, and he can certainly hurt Cotto.
There won't be any SD here. Either a TKO or UD. And I feel Mosley, even at this age, is still just better.
I believe Mosley will win a very tough fight.
This is a career defining fight for Cotto, if he wins he goes up a level in stardom but if he loses then it's my opinion he will never be and just top contender/name for a long time.
mad_schultz
09-17-2007, 12:39 PM
i'm kind of tired of hearing that "Cotto will break him down" bullshit. maybe the likes of Judah, Quintana and Corley was broken down, but they're nothing compared to Sugar Man, mentally and physically. and Torres is pretty chinless.
Mosley TKO11
the_what
09-17-2007, 12:39 PM
The fight will be pretty easy for Cotto. Much easier than the Judah fight do to styles. A few things about Mosley, he doesnt take body punches well (ie. DLH fights and Forrest making him scream like a bitch in round 10). And, if the fight isnt going his way, he quits mentally. So it is best for Cotto to take the fight to Mosley early on.
Either way, Papa Jack will save his son from an ass whooping.
I've always thought that Mosley is going to utterly brutalize Cotto, but these past few days I have been in deep thought and am reconsidering. This is 50/50 now in my eyes.
mad_schultz
09-17-2007, 12:50 PM
DLH hits harder than Cotto, and Forrest posed VERY serious stylistical problems.
besides, it's possible to point out - Cotto was badly hurt vs Torres, hurt vs Judah and all over the fucking place vs Corley.
they have not finished him. Mosley will.
ripcity
09-17-2007, 12:54 PM
I think Mosley is going to out box Cotto wining by a wide margan on the cards. I could see Cotto landing a big left hook and puting an end to the fight early. What ever hapens I don't think it will be a close fight. This has blow-out written all over it the question is who is going to win.
jackiebrown
09-17-2007, 12:55 PM
yes and DLH fought a prime mosley and forrest fought a prime mosley ..
this is not a prime mosley ... cotto was younger vs torres .. judah fans are still crying about the ass whoopin cotto gave him .. and corley fans "crickets chirping"... ... are still saying if the ref hadnt done his job and let corley get knocked around for 3 more rounds corley surely would have won ...
cotto is gonna beat mosley bad .. real bad .. and it wont matter because everybody has that good ol "he's shot" card up there sleve
PR Boxing Lore
09-17-2007, 12:56 PM
Shane has really developed his boxing skills in absence of his strength (the balco thing). He spends alot of time now moving away and picking his shots. Which really isn't the way to get Cotto imo. I think to get Cotto you have to press him and put some hurt on him, just like Torres and Abdulaev tried to do.
Cotto is a smart guy. He's all business in there and doesn't get rattled. Unlike alot of other opponents he won't lose his cool trying to find Mosely. At least that is my personal opinion. I also don't believe Mosely has the type of power that would be required to discourage Cotto, as we've seen Cotto continue to come forward, bomb after bomb from Torres.
The way I see this playing out is a very tactical matchup with Cotto finding the mark more often as the fight goes on. Mosely will do what he does, moving away and picking shots but he will find Cotto getting closer and closer every round. This won't be a thinking man versus a dumb brawler. Cotto thinks in there just as much. Mosely is gonna find that out come fight night.
Cotto UD.
Good call!
BITCH ASS
09-17-2007, 12:57 PM
DLH hits harder than Cotto, and Forrest posed VERY serious stylistical problems.
besides, it's possible to point out - Cotto was badly hurt vs Torres, hurt vs Judah and all over the fucking place vs Corley.
they have not finished him. Mosley will.
Torres is underrated.
the_what
09-17-2007, 01:01 PM
I still cant get the image out of my head of Mosley screaming after Forrest got him with a body shot in round 10. It wasnt a manly scream either. Cotto will have him singing in tongues when its all over. :yep
TroubleLurks
09-17-2007, 01:08 PM
After 8+ rounds of completely dominating Cotto, Shane KO's him in the 9th which will be a welcomed sight for his corner and all his fans.:deal
PR Boxing Lore
09-17-2007, 01:10 PM
After 8+ rounds of completely dominating Cotto, Shane KO's him in the 9th which will be a welcomed sight for his corner and all his fans.:deal
:patsch
TroubleLurks
09-17-2007, 01:11 PM
:patschI know the truth hurts. It will all be over soon.:yep
I still cant get the image out of my head of Mosley screaming after Forrest got him with a body shot in round 10. It wasnt a manly scream either. Cotto will have him singing in tongues when its all over. :yep
That forrest low blow shot was good,but did u see that punch where mosley hit forrest with that left hook that almost knocked forrest's cornrolls right off his head,i think it was like round 11.
the_what
09-17-2007, 05:16 PM
Cotto is no prime Forrest bro so you can stop fantasizing about Cotto making Mosley scream like a women. It won't happen.
Cotto is no Forrest.
You are correct. Cotto is better than Forrest. :yep
Chileno606
09-17-2007, 05:20 PM
Mosley is gonna get fucked up.
ChampionsForever
09-17-2007, 06:06 PM
They both start with alot of respect for each other Mosely edges the first round and the seconds, then Cotto scores some big shots and takes the next few, by the 6th its even but by this time Cotto is still fresh but the body shots are hurting the sugar man, over the rest of the fight Cotto brings on the pain and starts to land harder shots and wins a 116-112 decision in a decent ruck.
Toopretty
09-17-2007, 08:48 PM
I got Cotto winning...Shane will hurt him early maybe put him down once. But Cotto will suffocate Mosley and expose Shanes lack of defense. If there is one thing you must have fighting Cotto is good defense to fall back on. You cant just think you are going to put him down and keep him down..He gets up with full strength.
Antwuan Maxx
09-17-2007, 08:58 PM
You are correct. Cotto is better than Forrest. :yep
:lol: Dude talking like prime Forrest was unbeatable or some shit.
Toopretty
09-17-2007, 09:02 PM
Cotto is a beast..I mean only assholes that dont know shit about boxing dont see that he is not some skill-less power puncher..The guy got a game plan that you cant run away from. AND COTTO would of demolished HATTON at 140..lol Imagine Hatton trying to come forward and pressure Cotto and hold him..lol COTTO would knock his liver out of his asshole.
BigReg
09-17-2007, 09:12 PM
Cotto is a beast..I mean only assholes that dont know shit about boxing dont see that he is not some skill-less power puncher..The guy got a game plan that you cant run away from. AND COTTO would of demolished HATTON at 140..lol Imagine Hatton trying to come forward and pressure Cotto and hold him..lol COTTO would knock his liver out of his asshole.
Funny you should say this. I read a recent interview where he said he never goes into the ring with a gameplan. Overall, I think he's very talented. He needs to tighten up that defense though, and stop depending so much on the left
Mind Reader
09-17-2007, 09:17 PM
Gotta go with Sugar Shane... I think this will be a great fight though, I can't see Mosley getting stopped by Cotto, would be very suprised if it happened.
TroubleLurks
09-17-2007, 09:19 PM
I got Cotto winning...Shane will hurt him early maybe put him down once. But Cotto will suffocate Mosley and expose Shanes lack of defense. If there is one thing you must have fighting Cotto is good defense to fall back on. You cant just think you are going to put him down and keep him down..He gets up with full strength.
I see many posts like this and it's comical. When was the last time you saw Mosley hurt a fighter, drop him and not finish the job? If Mosley hurts Cotto it's over. Neither one of them have a great defense and they both get hit too much but who's got the better chin? Mosley, that's who.
Mosley KO9 :yep
standing 8
09-17-2007, 09:20 PM
I have Mosley winning by UD in an highly competitive and entertaining fight.
J_Roth
09-17-2007, 09:26 PM
Tough to call. The closest thing I have to a gut feeling is SSM ud 12. I can see Cotto getting knocked down. I can also see Cotto by SD. Should be a fine match.
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