Latin Welterweight Tourney: Final: Luis Rodriguez .Vs. Jose Napoles

[la-califa]

This is it the Main event! A True Cuban Classic! Luis Rodriguez facing off against Jose"Montequilla" Napoles. Rodriguez made it the hard way defeating Roberto Duran in the first round. Then went on to defeat Carlos Ortiz and Calos Palomino to reach the finals. Jose "Montaquilla" Napoles had a tough road also defeating Benny "Kid" Paret in the first round. Then going into a tough fight with Kid Gavilan. Finally a hard semi finals round fight with Wilfred Benitez.

LUIS RODRIGUEZ .VS. JOSE NAPOLES . 15 ROUNDS.

[Wu-Gambino]

Rodriguez UD

Has the footwork, speed, and jab to offset Napoles and the strength and toughness to exchange with him on occasion as well (although he can't get carried away here). Decision is something like 9-6 or 8-7.

[Sweet Pea]

I agree with the Wu. Much as I love Mantequilla, Rodriguez is just all wrong for him. He'd be a handful for any Welterweight that's ever fought.

[la-califa]

Emile Griffith gave Rodriguez a tough time. Would it be fair to say Napoles would be even tougher?

[Raging B(_)LL]

[QUOTE]Emile Griffith gave Rodriguez a tough time.

Not really imo. I`ve got all four of their bouts and for my money Luis beat him in each encounter, with the last one being the most decisive win for Luis unfortunately for him the judges robbed him, I mean it was a highway robbery.

Would it be fair to say Napoles would be even tougher?

Again, not really imo. Napoles and Griffith had different styles altogether and in fact Jose` style would be easier for Luis to deal with due to his being slow footed and not as quick as Emile of both hand and foot. Luis would have outboxed Jose from a distance behind his fine and accurate jab while mixing it up in close in spurts and going to the body when he does so, few men were as dedicated to body punching as Luis was and he turned the tide of many a fight in the later rounds due to having invested heavily into the body in the early to mid rounds.

Jose goes the distance barring a cuts stoppage, but he loses this one fairly convincingly to LMR. On a sidenote I am happy to see Rodriguez finally getting some recognition for just how good and multifaceted a fighter he was, the man is an absolute legend and his record and abilitys speak for themselves. He would rule the welterweights with an iron fist had he been around today, and would have easily grabbed a belt at both jr.middle and middleweight today as well.

[teeto]

Purely in terms of the styles match up i don't think this is too bad for Napoles, i've always thought the type of guy too use superior strength (and i mean someone who uses their strength) like a Basilio might be bad for him. But i still find it hard to pick Napoles, simply because i don't think he'd hurt his man, which means more of a chess match type bout would likely ensue. Napoles has a great sense of judgement and distance in the ring and i don't think that should be underestimated here, he is one of the best at slipping jabs and landing his own, regardless of reach disadvantages etc. However, i think Rodriguez might get by on his workrate and i think his strength would play a part when Napoles gets close and unloads, he can take it is what i mean. But then again Napoles might do the scoring and i feel he's being written off here.

This can go either way, i'm picking Rodriguez to offset his man's stuff just enough to get the decision, as the bout wears on the middle rounds get decisively close and whoever you think nicks them takes it.

[WhataRock]

LMR by 8th round cuts...He had a knack for cutting up guys..He was accurate, had a high level of technical ability, he was quite busy and he could bang a bit aswell.

I think he is the perfect example of the kind of fighter that would very likely expose Napoles only real glaring weakness...his skin.

I also think he has the ability to edge out Napoles aswell without the cuts coming into play..But given his tendency to get robbed, Im not sure he can win decisively enough to overcome this.
In an ideal world though I reckon LMR gets this one more often then not.

[cotto20]

[quote]Not really imo. I`ve got all four of their bouts and for my money Luis beat him in each encounter, with the last one being the most decisive win for Luis unfortunately for him the judges robbed him, I mean it was a highway robbery.




Again, not really imo. Napoles and Griffith had different styles altogether and in fact Jose` style would be easier for Luis to deal with due to his being slow footed and not as quick as Emile of both hand and foot. Luis would have outboxed Jose from a distance behind his fine and accurate jab while mixing it up in close in spurts and going to the body when he does so, few men were as dedicated to body punching as Luis was and he turned the tide of many a fight in the later rounds due to having invested heavily into the body in the early to mid rounds.

Jose goes the distance barring a cuts stoppage, but he loses this one fairly convincingly to LMR. On a sidenote I am happy to see Rodriguez finally getting some recognition for just how good and multifaceted a fighter he was, the man is an absolute legend and his record and abilitys speak for themselves. He would rule the welterweights with an iron fist had he been around today, and would have easily grabbed a belt at both jr.middle and middleweight today as well.

wow, so you feel luis beat him all four times? which one was the closest?

[WhataRock]

Ive seen the 2nd and 4th I think BG...and they werent even really close. The last one was an awful robbery

Part of the 2nd is on youtube (or was)...Thats the one LMR actually had scored for him. The judges only had him by a couple of points but I dont remember it being close...I thought Rodriguez won all but a couple of rounds Im pretty sure.

Rodriguez distinguished himself as the better welter than Griffith without a doubt.

[Raging B(_)LL]

[quote=Raging B(_)LL;4992614]

wow, so you feel luis beat him all four times? which one was the closest?

Their first bout was the closest, Emila actually hurt Luis in the 3rd round of that fight with a sneaky right hand that had Luis wobbling, but he re-grouped rather quickly and actually finished the round strongly and gave Emile a real going over to the body in the last thirty seconds of the round. I had LMR winning the bout by 3 points.

Their last bout Luis won going away, it wasn`t even close in any way, shape or form as I had him winning no less than 11 rounds clearly with one even yet those crooked judges robbed him. It is one of the worst decisions I have ever seen, even Emile`s mother couldn`t have scored that one for him it was so one-sided yet somehow they gave the fight to Emile, absolutely disgusting decision.

[Raging B(_)LL]

Ive seen the 2nd and 4th I think BG...and they werent even really close. The last one was an awful robbery

Part of the 2nd is on youtube (or was)...Thats the one LMR actually had scored for him. The judges only had him by a couple of points but I dont remember it being close...I thought Rodriguez won all but a couple of rounds Im pretty sure.

Rodriguez distinguished himself as the better welter than Griffith without a doubt.

Your probably thinking of the their 3rd bout at MSG, and yes Luis got shafted by the judges in that one too.

[GPater11093]

wow i speak to Emile on Facebook regulary and hes a top top guy and is not cocky in anyway he tells me he won 3 of them LMR fights and told me to watch them as he fights real good in them. I dont want to doubt the guy as i respect him loads but his memory must have slipped abit

[Sweet Pea]

wow i speak to Emile on Facebook regulary and hes a top top guy and is not cocky in anyway he tells me he won 3 of them LMR fights and told me to watch them as he fights real good in them. I dont want to doubt the guy as i respect him loads but his memory must have slipped abit
And you believe that is the real Emile Griffith?

[teeto]

And you believe that is the real Emile Griffith?
I asked the same thing to smoochp, and he told me to read the conversation between him and 'emile'. It looked pretty convincing and i'm not one to be gullable, i'm guessing GPater is talking of the same 'emile', who knows.

[Minotauro]

wow i speak to Emile on Facebook regulary and hes a top top guy and is not cocky in anyway he tells me he won 3 of them LMR fights and told me to watch them as he fights real good in them. I dont want to doubt the guy as i respect him loads but his memory must have slipped abit

Are you sure thats the real Emile Griffith and not some pedo? Isn't Emile meant to have dementia pugilistica and be under full time care? Doubt he goes on Facebook to often.

[sweet_scientist]

In any case, you should always take a fighter's opinion on a fight he had with a grain of salt.

[Sweet Pea]

Are you sure thats the real Emile Griffith and not some pedo? Isn't Emile meant to have dementia pugilistica and be under full time care? Doubt he goes on Facebook to often.:lol:This.

[teeto]

:lol:This.
I know, and there's me 'not being gullable'

:patsch:lol:

[Flea Man]

I have heard someone else say that Griffith's Son interprets what his Father replies with after reading him some of the questions. The Facebook page is a promotional thing for his book (that's the first thing you get upon 'befriending' him; an ad for his book) but I see him talking to Pater; said he had a good knowledge of his career. There are also family photos etc etc and Griffith goes wild at people if they claim they took the photo. It has to be seen to be believed but he seems very polite in all.

[GPater11093]

And you believe that is the real Emile Griffith?

i do indeed and i have good reason too, look below

Are you sure thats the real Emile Griffith and not some pedo? Isn't Emile meant to have dementia pugilistica and be under full time care? Doubt he goes on Facebook to often.

ditto

In any case, you should always take a fighter's opinion on a fight he had with a grain of salt.

yeh maybe i should, some of the stuff he tells me about his ifghts is very interesting.

I have heard someone else say that Griffith's Son interprets what his Father replies with after reading him some of the questions. The Facebook page is a promotional thing for his book (that's the first thing you get upon 'befriending' him; an ad for his book) but I see him talking to Pater; said he had a good knowledge of his career. There are also family photos etc etc and Griffith goes wild at people if they claim they took the photo. It has to be seen to be believed but he seems very polite in all.

Its definitly him. I read an article on the Boxingnews website and it was saying how he and his son interacted with the fans on it by his son typing for him and how Emile really enjoyed it and the final bit of proof i needed swas in the interview he mentioned me and talked about how he helps me out with boxing tips. And there was a photo with Emile and the author of the article

its definitly the real guy

[Flea Man]

i do indeed and i have good reason too, look below



ditto



yeh maybe i should, some of the stuff he tells me about his ifghts is very interesting.



Its definitly him. I read an article on the Boxingnews website and it was saying how he and his son interacted with the fans on it by his son typing for him and how Emile really enjoyed it and the final bit of proof i needed swas in the interview he mentioned me and talked about how he helps me out with boxing tips. And there was a photo with Emile and the author of the article

its definitly the real guy

Any chance you could post that article? Be interesting to see what he said about you? :good

[GPater11093]

Any chance you could post that article? Be interesting to see what he said about you? :good

If i can find it

He just says my First name but told me onFacebook he was speaking about me

also the article has a link to his FB

here it is lads

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[la-califa]

I would have to say Napoles would give Rodriguez a very tough fight. Tooth and nail all the way. With perhaps Luis' strength & jab being the key difference. Napoles will have his moments, he could hurt Rodriguez. But Luis most likely will pull this one out on points. Close decision.