Terry Norris vs. Jake LaMotta

[laxpdx]

How much of a chance does Terry have at winning a decision through speed? Jake Lamotta was relentless, but didn't hit nearly as hard as Julian Jackson.

[JudgeDredd]

Norris by decision, far too quick for LaMotta, but might have to get off the floor to do it.

[Flea Man]

Oh my god you guys are witless. Lamotta would've slaughtered Norris.

[JudgeDredd]

Oh my god you guys are witless. Lamotta would've slaughtered Norris.

:lol: I wouldn't argue with your prediction, I just feel speed kills, & with Norris's hand & foot speed it gives him an edge

[KOTF]

I wanna hear what redrooster says before I make a prediction

[Mr Butt]

lamotta was not a great puncher that is obvious and yes norris was very fast but lamotta was a great pressure fighter and norris would be fighting at middle i presume in this match-up any way lamotta by stoppage .

[Flea Man]

I wanna hear what redrooster says before I make a prediction

Why? He knows jack shit about boxing.

[teeto]

LaMotta for me. Norris has a style that he could start well with, getting off the combos whilst moving in and out. But as this gruelling affair continues, i'll take a peak LaMotta to win. Strength would be key, and as the naturally lighter man is wore down, as he comes to get shots off he'd be countered by the shorter man to the body. LaMotta would kd him as well i think.

[Sweet Pea]

:lol: I wouldn't argue with your prediction, I just feel speed kills, & with Norris's hand & foot speed it gives him an edgeYes, because Terry Norris was clearly on the same level as Ray Robinson in those regards.

[cotto20]

Due to Lamotta not having a big punch, Terry would have a chance. But i'd still favour Lamotta

[TheGreatA]

LaMotta had a punch against fighters who were smaller than him. He would be all over Norris from round 1 and stop him.

He knocked Ray Robinson down twice.
KO'd George Costner (who called Jake a great puncher)
Stopped Jose Basora
KO'd Bob Satterfield
KO'd Walter Woods
TKO'd Joey DeJohn
KO'd Laurent Dauthuille
KO'd George Kochan

[cotto20]

LaMotta had a punch against fighters who were smaller than him. He would be all over Norris from round 1 and stop him.

Maybe. But Lamotta cound't KO or stop fighters who weren't known for there chin like Joe Taylor who was knocked out 6 times, and Joe Reddick who was knocked out 14 times. Both fighters went the distance with Lamotta.

[Sweet Pea]

Revisionist history seems to have pegged LaMotta as feather-fisted, based on the fact that he wasn't a true KO puncher. That's boxing forums for ya.

Norris wouldn't make it past the half way point.

[cotto20]

Revisionist history seems to have pegged LaMotta as feather-fisted, based on the fact that he wasn't a true KO puncher. That's boxing forums for ya.

Norris wouldn't make it past the half way point.

Actually the real reson Lamotta wasnt a KO puncher, was due ot him having real fragile hands. Thus having go to the body alot.

He says this in his book.

[Hatesrats]

Norris get's chin checked.
LaMotta would wear him out & finish him.

[TommyV]

How much of a chance does Terry have at winning a decision through speed?

Very little.

[TheGreatA]

Maybe. But Lamotta cound't KO or stop fighters who weren't known for there chin like Joe Taylor who was knocked out 6 times, and Joe Reddick who was knocked out 14 times. Both fighters went the distance with Lamotta.

Earnie Shavers couldn't stop Vicente Rondon, a light heavyweight who was KO'd 7 times.

Bob Foster went the distance with Ray Anderson who was KO'd 11 times.

Taylor wasn't a bad fighter and he was usually stopped due to the 3 knockdown rule. LaMotta did knock him down in the last round.

Reddick was a journeyman who fought many good fighters, going the distance with some, being stopped by some.

I'm not saying that LaMotta was a great puncher but many good punchers have also gone the distance with not-so-durable fighters. Most of the men who took LaMotta the limit were top fighters and he fought a lot of them.

[Flea Man]

Actually the real reson Lamotta wasnt a KO puncher, was due ot him having real fragile hands. Thus having go to the body alot.

He says this in his book.

Sweet Pea is saying he thinks Lamotta IS a puncher. Just saying he isn't a Jackson-esque one punch finisher, but there's no doubt he was seriously heavy handed, and would beat the crap out of Norris. Badly. He has moer than enough power to destroy him like Brown did. He'd clobber Norris within three IMO. And that's not fom going through Boxrec it's through watching footage of both fighters, regardless of whether I myself have had a pro fight or not.

[Vantage_West]

if norris for some reason was able to get lamotta to 154 in a 12 rounder. i dunno might be different.
lamotta was slow and not a massive knockout puncher but was able to punish and deconstruct his opponants.

norris also was only koed by counterpunchers when he was leading in. so i dont see a higlight reel ko. also robinson fought lamotta badly the first time out and clearly rectified it when he almost killed him so comparing norris to ray robinson is a shrewed move.


i see norris winning almost all the early rounds up until round 7 where his feet are a bit slower and starts to fatigue and gets dropped around round 10 but makes it out the round. goes the distance, Norris MD, with norris looking worse for wear.

[Boro chris]

Lamotta in about 8-9 rounds. Norris would be overwhelmed and outworked and ultimately beaten up.

[Rock0052]

I think LaMotta would grind him down like a tooth that had a dental drill on it for a minute straight.

[TheGreatA]

if norris for some reason was able to get lamotta to 154 in a 12 rounder. i dunno might be different.
lamotta was slow and not a massive knockout puncher but was able to punish and deconstruct his opponants.

norris also was only koed by counterpunchers when he was leading in. so i dont see a higlight reel ko. also robinson fought lamotta badly the first time out and clearly rectified it when he almost killed him so comparing norris to ray robinson is a shrewed move.


i see norris winning almost all the early rounds up until round 7 where his feet are a bit slower and starts to fatigue and gets dropped around round 10 but makes it out the round. goes the distance, Norris MD, with norris looking worse for wear.

What do you mean about Robinson fighting badly the first time out? He actually won the first fight, a close decision, lost the second and had three more close and hard fights with LaMotta. Their sixth fight was when Robinson battered LaMotta badly but that was a weight-drained, older LaMotta and even then Robinson was having his hands full until the late rounds.

[JudgeDredd]

Yes, because Terry Norris was clearly on the same level as Ray Robinson in those regards.

Fair point

[Raging B(_)LL]

Norris by decision, far too quick for LaMotta, but might have to get off the floor to do it.

If Jake floors Terry he ain`t gonna get back up, Jake didn`t have an impressive KO% but that doesn`t mean the man couldn`t punch, far from it. Terrys mobility would keep him out of harm`s way for a while but Jake would get to him eventually and would wail away on those thin ribs of his and break him in half.

Either that or Terrys chin will fail him at some point and see him get knocked out, any way you look at it I do not fancy Norris` chances against any bonafide middleweight with some skills of their own, especially against bruising pressure fighters such as Jake or fighters of the same mould.

[cotto20]

Norris's best chance in this fight would be if the fight took place at 154 and Lamotta come in extremely weight drained, and even then I'd still favour Lamotta.

Lamotta may have had fragile hands, but to say he had no power at all is pretty stupid. He scored two knockdowns over Ray Robinson and his knockouts of tough fighters like Bob Satterfield and Laurent Dauthuille are pretty impressive.

Norris may use his skills and movement for a brief period of success, but it would be only a matter of time before Lamotta would wear him out or Norris's chin would fail him and Lamotta would score a KO victory.

[mcvey]

Yes, because Terry Norris was clearly on the same level as Ray Robinson in those regards.
Robinson had a chin.

[JudgeDredd]

Robinson had a chin.

Not one of my best :patsch

[redrooster]

Terry would come in the kind of shape he was for his big fights. comparing physical attributes, Norris seems to have the edge. a big edge in speed. Both men have top notch stamina but Lamotta takes too much pubishment and Lamotta is no Julian Jackson.

With short arms, how can he hope to box TN?

I see Terry with his edge in speed building up a huge lead before Lamotta gets into a groove only for Norris to double and redouble his resolve and take the lead once again.

lamotta is hopelessly behind and tries to the knockout but Terry's corner has warned Tn to look out for late round heroics and stays away by boxing smartly as he did in the Leonard fight.

Norris wins 12 rounds to 3 in yet another astounding boxing exhibition

[OBCboxer]

LaMotta abuses Norris on the inside. No way Norris can keep Jake away from him. LaMotta UD. Norris was a skilled fighter and I am a fan of his, but let's not overrate him.