tonight is the night Pavlik gets decapitated

[Relentless]

pavlik better find a proctologist and a good one, he is going to need one when taylor sends his gumshield to his ass.

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[pipe wrenched]

:lol:

Go Pavlik!!!

[SteveO]

We all know by the way he fought Cory Spinks that he is a "knock his block off" type of fighter...or not.

[tpuz]

There is a much better chance of Pavlik winning by brutal KO. If Taylor wins, it will be by decision, but that won't happen. It will be over well before the final bell rings.

[Ray_Robinson]

This will be an interesting fight. Taylor isn't as bad as people are making out and he still hasnt lost a fight but his last two have been lucky wins and maybe his time is up. I haven't seen alot of Pavlik but it seems he has won over quite a few people with his last fight.

[brooklyn1550]

Other way around

[McGrain]

I just want this one to be over so everyone will shut the fuck up about it.

[lillarry]

pavlik better find a proctologist and a good one, he is going to need one when taylor sends his gumshield to his ass.

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I like your thinking young man:good

[BITCH ASS]

He might win a decision, but there won't be any decapitation.

[Sug3]

Since both guy's love to fight i think they both will get beat up,but i think pavlik's face will take the most punishment and i wouldn't be suprised if taylor got a late tko from pavlik's face being busted up.I think pavlik's style is perfect for taylor to showcase what stewards been teaching him all this time.

[BewareofDawg]

pavlik better find a proctologist and a good one, he is going to need one when taylor sends his gumshield to his ass.

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Stupid - yes
Immature - yes

I knew that already, I didn't know however that you were also delusional and 1/2 insane :deal

Pavlik KO8 Taylor :good

[jackiebrown]

Stupid - yes
Immature - yes

I knew that already, I didn't know however that you were also delusional and 1/2 insane :deal

Pavlik KO8 Taylor :good
you kidding? he isnt any more immature then someone thinking a hard punching club fighter could beat the undisputed middleweight champ of the world

[BewareofDawg]

you kidding? he isnt any more immature then someone thinking a hard punching club fighter could beat the undisputed middleweight champ of the world
Club Fighter? :patsch

Miranda gave Abraham a hell of a fight. Pavlik destroyed Miranda. That does not mean that Pavlik can beat Abraham, no. But it does mean that he is competing and fighting on the same level, if not a step up. So if you are calling Pavlik a 'club fighter', then what is Abraham or even Miranda???

[KhanB]

Time for HBO's pampered country boy Taylor to give those belts to somebody else.

[Relentless]

Stupid - yes
Immature - yes

I knew that already, I didn't know however that you were also delusional and 1/2 insane :deal

Pavlik KO8 Taylor :good

hey beware go jerkoff to wlad klitschko:good

[BewareofDawg]

hey beware go jerkoff to wlad klitschko:good
Again? :huh

[Relentless]

Pavlik is NOT a 'hard punching club fighter'! The guy has a great amateur background and solid fundamentals...

yeh? and so did marvis frazier.

[snoop]

The only shot Taylor has at winning is E. Stewart. Without him(or maybe even with him) he losses.
Taylor in 12

[jackiebrown]

abraham and miranda both made a name of beating an over rated old out dated howard eastman ... who since we're playing A vs B vs C .. got his ass whooped by old man hopkins ...

taylor beat hopkins...twice ...

i will put my word on it .. pavlik will not beat taylor .... no chance .. none

[jackiebrown]

this is gonna be much like the lacy vs cal fight... jermain is gonna stomp his tail .. then when its all over .. all the pavilik fans like the lacy fans will go on milk cartons with "have you seen me " on them ...

hard punchers do great .. but when there in there with a solid boxer with solid fundamentals .. they rarely win!!! .. ali beat foreman .. holmes beat cooney ... mayweather beat corrales... joe louis beat max baer... the boxers almost always beat the sluggers .....ALMOST ALWAYS!!!

so what is any fucking different with this fight? .. sure pav has a punchers chance.. but that is no reason to bet your pride on it .. god damn people learn your boxing history !

[Fab2333]

pavlik better find a proctologist and a good one, he is going to need one when taylor sends his gumshield to his ass.

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[Fab2333]

:deal this is gonna be much like the lacy vs cal fight... jermain is gonna stomp his tail .. then when its all over .. all the pavilik fans like the lacy fans will go on milk cartons with "have you seen me " on them ...

hard punchers do great .. but when there in there with a solid boxer with solid fundamentals .. they rarely win!!! .. ali beat foreman .. holmes beat cooney ... mayweather beat corrales... joe louis beat max baer... the boxers almost always beat the sluggers .....ALMOST ALWAYS!!!

so what is any fucking different with this fight? .. sure pav has a punchers chance.. but that is no reason to bet your pride on it .. god damn people learn your boxing history !

[Alo2006]

Since both guy's love to fight i think they both will get beat up,but i think pavlik's face will take the most punishment and i wouldn't be suprised if taylor got a late tko from pavlik's face being busted up.I think pavlik's style is perfect for taylor to showcase what stewards been teaching him all this time.


Exactly, don't see why people don't see that. Idiots I guess :lol: :yep

[snoop]

this is gonna be much like the lacy vs cal fight... jermain is gonna stomp his tail .. then when its all over .. all the pavilik fans like the lacy fans will go on milk cartons with "have you seen me " on them ...

hard punchers do great .. but when there in there with a solid boxer with solid fundamentals .. they rarely win!!! .. ali beat foreman .. holmes beat cooney ... mayweather beat corrales... joe louis beat max baer... the boxers almost always beat the sluggers .....ALMOST ALWAYS!!!

so what is any fucking different with this fight? .. sure pav has a punchers chance.. but that is no reason to bet your pride on it .. god damn people learn your boxing history !

I dont know if I would call Taylor a solid boxer or that he has solid fundamentals either. Ive never seen a fight that Taylor showed solid funs. So I would like you to tell what fight you were watching

[tpuz]

this is gonna be much like the lacy vs cal fight... jermain is gonna stomp his tail .. then when its all over .. all the pavilik fans like the lacy fans will go on milk cartons with "have you seen me " on them ...

hard punchers do great .. but when there in there with a solid boxer with solid fundamentals .. they rarely win!!! .. ali beat foreman .. holmes beat cooney ... mayweather beat corrales... joe louis beat max baer... the boxers almost always beat the sluggers .....ALMOST ALWAYS!!!

so what is any fucking different with this fight? .. sure pav has a punchers chance.. but that is no reason to bet your pride on it .. god damn people learn your boxing history !I think you are underestimating Pavliks boxing skills. Maybe you only saw his last couple of fights, which were against brawlers. You will be suprised come Sept. 29th.. Pavlik by KO.

[Doomas]

Stupid - yes
Immature - yes

I knew that already, I didn't know however that you were also delusional and 1/2 insane :deal

Pavlik KO8 Taylor :good

Your not very good at picking winers :yep I think your last prediction was Wright by KO in Hopkins vs Wright :good

Taylor by KO, but most likely UD.

[BewareofDawg]

Your not very good at picking winers :yep I think your last prediction was Wright by KO in Hopkins vs Wright :good

Taylor by KO, but most likely UD.
I also picked Hoya by TKO, Judah by TKO and Morales to win the rubber match with Pac :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


But don't worry, I'm sure about this one :hey

[IntentionalButt]

pavlik better find a proctologist and a good one, he is going to need one when taylor sends his gumshield to his ass.

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That isn't how decapitation works, noob. :deal

[jackiebrown]

we'll see after the fights over...im not gonna sit around and argue with the next sluggers freight train of bandwagon fans ... we'll see when its all over with

when taylor wins .. i dont wanna hear about how hbo loves him .. or how what the comentator said in round 3 around the 2:30 mark made the difference in the fight that if taylor didnt hear that he woulda been pawned ktfo lmao rfolhaha that if the fight is held over agian in ohio with taylor on nyquil that it'll be different muahroflakaahahaha .. or whatever else you guys are prepaired to use as excuses ...

taylor is the real

[T.S.]

It is a huge advantage having Manny Steward in your corner.
I lean towards JT in this one by late TKO.
If Pavlik can cut off ring and somehow bacup JT like he did Miranda I give him a punchers chance but my money's on JT.

[jackiebrown]

you know how hard it is to fight a man who wont engage ? .. ricardo mayorga is one of the biggest offenseive machines in the game .. and he couldnt get to spinks because he refused to engage

[SteveO]

I'm going on a limb and saying that Manny Steward becomes frustrated with Taylor and Ko's him between rounds 8 and 9.

[Thor]

I see Taylor winning this, but fans of whichever fighter suffers the loss are gonna get served.

[Pimp C]

pavlik better find a proctologist and a good one, he is going to need one when taylor sends his gumshield to his ass.

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I can't wait. Taylor will outclass Pavlik.

[T.S.]

How so? He almost lost to Spinks WITH Steward in his corner. I think Steward was about to KO Taylor due to his lack of interest he showed in that fight. Steward can't help someone out who doesn't do what they are told. Pavlik by KO.

If he doesn't listen to Steward I agree Pavlik by KO :deal

[semichin]

pavlik better find a proctologist and a good one, he is going to need one when taylor sends his gumshield to his ass.

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I think it will be close, don't you???:think

[semichin]

I just want this one to be over so everyone will shut the fuck up about it. When it's over, you think they will shut up?? LOL :-(

[MSTR]

If Taylor does manage to win this one, I have no doubt in my mind it will be eather a tedious decision victory where boxes for most of the fight, or a contraversial decision most like all his other fights. most probably we will see a combination of both.

[jecxbox]

taylor cannot ko pavlik

[jackiebrown]

when this fight is over it wont matter.. .taylor will still be a hyped hbo job to everyone .. and pavilk will just be a hard swinging slugger in the mold of rocky marciano who would have won had taylor not been hbos poster boy rfolamamamooo hahah .. or whatever the idiots say for excuses theses days

[MSTR]

I don't think there's any chance of this fight being tedious and boring, the hard swinging styles of both these fighters demand that it be a thriller. Though you might have something there with the contrversial decision prediction. I mean what Taylor decision isn't controversial these days? :-(
With Manny in the corner, don't be suprised to see jab jab tie him up, jab jab tie him up. Pavlik will be the one making the fight IMO. Wouldn't be suprised to hear criticism for Taylor even if he wins this one. Still, as you said, if he fights in the pockets like he did against Winky at times it will be a good one to watch.

[Zakman]

Pavlik is going to DESTROY the overrated Taylor. :nod

Can't get a gift decision when you're out cold on the canvas! :-(

[MSTR]

Pavlik is going to DESTROY the overrated Taylor. :nod

Can't get a gift decision when you're out cold on the canvas! :-(
What leads you to believe that Taylor has a suspect chin?

[He Hate Me]

pavlik better find a proctologist and a good one, he is going to need one when taylor sends his gumshield to his ass.

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[jackiebrown]

What leads you to believe that Taylor has a suspect chin?because all the times hes been down in his career .. :patsch


these people are suckers ..

we're even bigger suckers for arugeing with them...they aint gonna admit fault anyways.. those slugger bandwagon hoppers never do

[nezy37]

JT by UD

[tays001]

im goin for pavlik and for a long tim now the only scenario i saw was pavlik brutalizing taylor. but i now see this fight playing out 2 way either pavlik ko's taylor in brutal fashion or taylor speed kills pavlil. if taylor move and gives lateral move ments and uses his speed and keep his hands up then he can beat pavlik it might even look easy but im not sure he will do that i think he goes in ther and tries to slug it out not listening to MANNY .

[Zakman]

What leads you to believe that Taylor has a suspect chin?

He was rocked by Hopkins, who's hardly known for his crushing punching power, particularly late in his career. And since then, he's fought nothing but light-hitting fighters moving up from lower weight classes.:yep

I bet this hype job has been laid out cold in the gym on more than one occassion. I had the same sense about Fraudley before his glass jaw was exposed. I was right then, and I'm pretty darn confident I'll be right this time too.

I don't think this kid here takes a good punch, and that's why he's been fighting these lighter weight fighters. Pavlik's gonna show us why Taylor doesn't fight guys his own size!!

[brooklyn1550]

Here's a real good video if anybody hasn't seen it...

lGBo25mAJKE

[tays001]

He was rocked by Hopkins, who's hardly known for his crushing punching power, particularly late in his career. And since then, he's fought nothing but light-hitting fighters moving up from lower weight classes.:yep

I bet this hype job has been laid out cold in the gym on more than one occassion. I had the same sense about Fraudley before his glass jaw was exposed. I was right then, and I'm pretty darn confident I'll be right this time too.

I don't think this kid here takes a good punch, and that's why he's been fighting these lighter weight fighters. Pavlik's gonna show us why Taylor doesn't fight guys his own size!!

that is true he had a chance to fight miranda after miranda beat green but opted to fight spinks cuz dibella didn't want that . duva did all he could to protect taylor from power punches im not saying taylor as a fighter ducke but his promter stop that fight from happening. so now he has to fight pavlik or run .dibella was forced to make this fight cuz taylor was tired of being called yellow . dibella has no intention of taylor fighting power punchers

[Ambition_Def]

Pavlik has a punchers chance and that's it!

Please. You make it out like Taylor is some technician. He's a brawler just the same. That man has learned absolutely nothing being with Stewart. IMO Stewart only stays with him because he's on top and he likes him.

I wouldn't even be surprised to see Pavlik outbox Taylor. If all Taylor has is an excellent jab, he's gonna have issues landing on a longer opponent.

The real question here is whose dick is Jim Lampley going to suck this time.

[sues2nd]

Here's a real good video if anybody hasn't seen it...

lGBo25mAJKE

Good vid...tho I think when showing Taylor's shortcomings vs Wright and Hopkins, ya have to keep in mind who those shortcomings were coming against.

Does Pavlik have the nessecary fundamentals to get Taylor trapped on the ropes the way Wright OBVIOUSLY does? Or does he have the defense to make Jermaine loop his right the way he had to vs Hopkins?

I say no.

And looking at Pavlik's weaknesses (on the video), ya have to almost think that if Taylor attempts to employ those strategies, he will do it better and easier. I mean, even the biggest Taylor hater (cough Amsterdam cough) will tell you his jab and right hand are LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than Zertuche's and Miranda's (more powerful...no! but better, more compact and stronger....yes!).

Again, good video.....just didnt fully agree with it.

Taylor UD.

[jackiebrown]

people are judgeing what pavilk will do based on how taylor fought agianst winky and hopkins ... and they are judgeing how good pavilk will do judgeing on how he fought agianst a guy even more one dimentioned then felix trinidad ..... in miranda...

how else would they beable to justify picking someone like pavilik over taylor ...

[tays001]

people are judgeing what pavilk will do based on how taylor fought agianst winky and hopkins ... and they are judgeing how good pavilk will do judgeing on how he fought agianst a guy even more one dimentioned then felix trinidad ..... in miranda...

how else would they beable to justify picking someone like pavilik over taylor ...

im not but taylor aint unbeatable and although it's 50/50 i go with pavlik as to i dbt think he got the wisker. plus Kassime ouma baccked him up and spinks hit him pretty good aswell

[Ambition_Def]

Pavlik has also stated that he will not fight Taylor like he fought Miranda. Miranda is a puncher who loops his shots, so Pavlik had it easy just going right down the middle and staying inside of Miranda's power.

He'll use more head and foot movement against Taylor.

[jackiebrown]

How bout the fact that Taylor keeps fighting light-middleweights who have no knockout power? Pavlik is the first real knockout threat he's faced in years.taylor fought hopkins x2 , wright , omau , spinks all within 2 years .. i dare you to find a resume like that now adays...

[jackiebrown]

not only that .. you can say this resume in just the last couple years is better then anyone pav has fought period ..

[sues2nd]

Pavlik has also stated that he will not fight Taylor like he fought Miranda. Miranda is a puncher who loops his shots, so Pavlik had it easy just going right down the middle and staying inside of Miranda's power.

He'll use more head and foot movement against Taylor.

There is a problem with that tho....Pavlik has shown he has sloppy footwork and terrible head movement.

If he plans on fighting like that (which are FAR from his strengths), this fight is going to be more one sided then I expected.

[Fab2333]

Good vid...tho I think when showing Taylor's shortcomings vs Wright and Hopkins, ya have to keep in mind who those shortcomings were coming against.

Does Pavlik have the nessecary fundamentals to get Taylor trapped on the ropes the way Wright OBVIOUSLY does? Or does he have the defense to make Jermaine loop his right the way he had to vs Hopkins?

I say no.

And looking at Pavlik's weaknesses (on the video), ya have to almost think that if Taylor attempts to employ those strategies, he will do it better and easier. I mean, even the biggest Taylor hater (cough Amsterdam cough) will tell you his jab and right hand are LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than Zertuche's and Miranda's (more powerful...no! but better, more compact and stronger....yes!).

Again, good video.....just didnt fully agree with it.

Taylor UD.:deal :thumbsup

[Ambition_Def]

There is a problem with that tho....Pavlik has shown he has sloppy footwork and terrible head movement.

If he plans on fighting like that (which are FAR from his strengths), this fight is going to be more one sided then I expected.

What are you basing this statement off of? Which fights exactly?

The way he fought Zartuche and Miranda are not the ways he fought everyone. Both of those guys have wide punching power and it's typically better to go down the middle and stay close.

If you can name a fight or two where this is evident I'd like to see.

[SugarShane_24]

Well, I saw Pavlik against Miranda, and i was impressed with his power, grit, determination and pressure. But Taylor is a completely different story altogether.


Taylor has the experience and skill. You can't fight head-to-head with Hopkins if your not properly equipped. Taylor did, and had two more wins in the process.


I think Taylor is more patient while Pavlik will gun for a KO.


I can't say who clearly has the advantage. but i have a very, very slight lean on Pavlik.

[lillarry]

:verysad :-(( I see Taylor winning this, but fans of whichever fighter suffers the loss are gonna get served.


Yep I thinking its going to be a lot people eating crow come sept.29

[sean]

looking forward to the fight.
i am picking pavlik to get the job done.

up to now pavlik is a natural fighter, willing to grit his teeth to get the job done,

taylor an on top fighter , but not a fighter willing to win at all costs.

technical fight taylor wins

goes to the trenches pavlik wins.

i think taylor will have no plab B if pavlik getting countered from the outside by taylor in a chess match desides to walk through taylor and just let rip, and am picking pavlik on the basis he will do just that.

[tpuz]

looking forward to the fight.
i am picking pavlik to get the job done.

up to now pavlik is a natural fighter, willing to grit his teeth to get the job done,

goes to the trenches pavlik wins.

i think taylor will have no plab B if pavlik getting countered from the outside by taylor in a chess match desides to walk through taylor and just let rip, and am picking pavlik on the basis he will do just that.Great post, I think that is exactly what will happen, Pavlik will walk through Taylor's counter-punches to get in punches of his own. Pavlik will win on pure toughness. He will take shots in order to land shots, but Pavlik hits harder.

[Sinew]

We all know by the way he fought Cory Spinks that he is a "knock his block off" type of fighter...or not. How many times have you seen Spinks' block knocked off?

[IntentionalButt]

:lol: c'mon now.. does Pavlik's body looks like it's on steroid?

PAvlik is not roided.

Agree, that's silly. :lol:

[tays001]

How many times have you seen Spinks' block knocked off?

ZAB judah ring a bell

[Relentless]

ZAB judah ring a bell

once?

[Relentless]

only 6 more days till pavlik has to eat through a straw.

[Pimp C]

I can't wait!

[Zakman]

You can't get a gift decision when you're OUT COLD on the canvas!

Pavlik is gonna destroy this HBO hype job, and earlier than people expect, too! :nod

[brooklyn1550]

..."and NEW undisputed middleweight champion of the world..."

[cardstars]

I seriously am going to have trouble sleeping while the 29th gets closer....is that weird?

[Sug3]

only 6 more days till pavlik has to eat through a straw.I agree.

[AmazingHook]

This is going to be one hellava fight. I'm just looking forward to this fight and may the best man win. This fight can go either way.

[Relentless]

tonight is the night!

[booradley]

This thread is hilarious, especially if you read it and then watch this video!

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

[cangryman]

is it tonight

[pipe wrenched]

Fun shit right there....thanks for diggin' up this one Boo.

Strange, once I opened it, I remembered most of it like yesterday.

[IntentionalButt]

Fun shit right there....thanks for diggin' up this one Boo.

Strange, once I opened it, I remembered most of it like yesterday.

Two years ain't much. It's been a long, strange trip for Mr. Kelly Pavlik, though. :yep

[Lacyace]

is it tonight

:lol:

[tays001]

Lol

[booradley]

:nono