-ricky hatton-

[TheUzi]

Is this the most under rated fighter(not boxer) on these ESB boards.?

I mean,it just seems like slagging him off these days is now the popular thing to do. Given the career and fights he's had,to get NO credit,absolutely ZERO credit from most is simply out of order.

Yes,the P4P talk was ludicrous,gringeworthy...not only to his haters but to his knowledgable fans also but the fact he split from ******,fought the some of the top fighters in America and carved out a solid resume,he deserves some sort of credit,defo shouldn't be the laughing stock that most have him down as.

He should've fought Witter.....the fact he didn't IMO shouldn't take away from his career as much as it does.

The fight with Collazo was close....It was his debut at a new weight and the fact it was close,even if he did get beat,he fought a pretty decent fight.

Pacman....His trainer....nah,he got sparko'd ,not even Ray could summon an excuse for that one.

ANYWAY,NOT SAYING HE'S THE GREATEST,NOT EVEN SAYING HE'S ELITE BUT HE WAS A VERY GOOD FIGHTING CHAMPION.

Thats enough,im away to have a cup of tea in my Man City Ricky mug.

[Losfer_Words]

Well summed up, Uzi:good. I honestly don't get the hate of him either as a fighter. I can understand people saying that the constant referral to himself in the third person is annoying as hell but when talking about his legacy it should not even be mentioned. Hatton has been phenomenal for the sport in the UK, IMO, and he certainly can't be tarnished with the 'ducker' brush. He was the best in a competitive division for 4 years and only lost when challenging himself against the greats of his generation- in PBF's case, on his terms. He's been awesome, IMO. That said, it is only a very small, unsilent minority that fail to recognise this. Don't beat yourself up over it:good.

[Evil Rich]

The only problem I have with Ricky Hatton is that like the England team, he works me up to break my heart. I ignorantly thought he could beat Pac man and just desperately wanted him to beat PBF just because he brought attention to the sport, I think the guy had the right intentions of wanting to be the best even if it was never likely to happen and for that he kind of had the Tim Henman effect for me, wanted him to win but knew deep down he never would.

[JudgeDredd]

I never really thought he'd beat Mayweather, but the build up to the fight & the anticipation was amazing.

[pauliewalnuts]

He does get a lot of stick, probally due to his annoying personality and the whole "im just like you, honest" act that he puts on. As a fight fan in general, yeah I suppose I was happy to see him beaten by Pac, as im a bigger fan of Pac mans, but apart from that I cant say I ever really enjoyed a Hatton fight. His style wasnt very attractive to me, just my personal choice. I certainly dont hate the lad like some people do though. Just dont really care about him is all :)

[El Cepillo]

I think the perception of him now is about right.

A good champion, good career.

Not elite, not great.

A lot of people overrated him, for a long time. Me included.

[JudgeDredd]

I think the perception of him now is about right.

A good champion, good career.

Not elite, not great.

A lot of people overrated him, for a long time. Me included.

Yep spot on.

[Lee Mc]

I think the perception of him now is about right.

A good champion, good career.

Not elite, not great.

A lot of people overrated him, for a long time. Me included.

Totally agree with all of that. After the way he dismantled a very tricky Carlos Mausa and announced that he was going to move through the weights I honestly believed that he would capture significant titles at 147 and 154. However, any belief in that he was going to achieve anything like that ended sometime during the Collazo fight and never came back.

I know he looked good/very good against Mallignaggi but I still stand by my belief that Mallignaggi didn't turn up that night and, if he had done, the outcome would have been completely different.

Overall, he was a good fighter but will never trouble any ATG list. He will get into the HOF but only because they are committed to inducting fighters every year and will eventully run out of truely great fighters.

[Mazallan]

He is hilarious. Both of him.

[achillesthegreat]

Elite fighter but not A*, maybe A-. You don't beat Tszyu, Castillo, titlists if you are not a top fighter.

[Lee Mc]

Elite fighter but not A*, maybe A-. You don't beat Tszyu, Castillo, titlists if you are not a top fighter.

But would he have beaten a prime Tszyu or Castillo?

I don't think so and I honestly believe that it's not enough to have names on your record but when you get them on there.

[GazOC]

But would he have beaten a prime Tszyu or Castillo?

I don't think so and I honestly believe that it's not enough to have names on your record but when you get them on there.

Still, the versions of Urango, Maussa, Collazo and Malinaggi (Hatton beats any version of Paulie IMHO, "styles" and all that)that he did beat shows he was a decent champ/ fighter.

[AndrewFFC]

Overrated himself a fair bit, but what boxer doesnt?

One of the top British boxers in recent years and by most accounts a decent bloke with a good sense of humour.
He gets a lot of a irrational hate from some very bizarre people.

[Lee Mc]

Overrated himself a fair bit, but what boxer doesnt?

One of the top British boxers in recent years and by most accounts a decent bloke with a good sense of humour.
He gets a lot of a irrational hate from some very bizarre people.

Betty says hi :D

[GazOC]

I've said in other threads, Hattons career is a piece of piss to rank/ rate. He got comprehensively beaten by the the 2 prime 'elite' fighters he met, so its obvious he's not on that level but has beaten enough good world class fighters and world titists to make it just as obvious that he was a least a genuine world class fighter and a decent world champ.

You can split hairs on exactly where to rank him between those two extremes but the limits are pretty clearly defined IMHO. Either side of those and you're either nuthugging or hating.

[PaddyD1983]

I've said in other threads, Hattons career is a piece of piss to rank/ rate. He got comprehensively beaten by the the 2 prime 'elite' fighters he met, so its obvious he's not on that level but has beaten enough good world class fighters and world titists to make it just as obvious that he was a least a genuine world class fighter and a decent world champ.

You can split hairs on exactly where to rank him between those two extremes but the limits are pretty clearly defined IMHO. Either side of those and you're either nuthugging or hating.

Pretty much agree.

I'd put him as an A- fighter rather than a B+ but I can see the arguments.

Also, maybe this is my Hatton tinted glasses, but the version of Tzsyu he beat was waaaaaaaaay better than the version of Castillo he beat. Dont think he gets the recognition he should for the Tzsyu win. Career best win of his and one of the best wins for any British champ in my opinion.

[Lee Mc]

Pretty much agree.

I'd put him as an A- fighter rather than a B+ but I can see the arguments.

Also, maybe this is my Hatton tinted glasses, but the version of Tzsyu he beat was waaaaaaaaay better than the version of Castillo he beat. Dont think he gets the recognition he should for the Tzsyu win. Career best win of his and one of the best wins for any British champ in my opinion.

I can only speak for myself here but the reason why I don't give Hatton full credit for that fight is because I geniunly feel that Tzsyu simply tired. He, Tzsyu, people forget, was ahead, slightly, going into the 9th.

[GazOC]

What made Zoo tire? Having to try and keep Hatton off him for 3 minutes of every round, you have to give Hatton credit for that surely?

[achillesthegreat]

But would he have beaten a prime Tszyu or Castillo?

I don't think so and I honestly believe that it's not enough to have names on your record but when you get them on there.

I think he would. Tszyu right hand was neutralised because Hatton covered the distance and then he was mauled for 12 rounds.

Hatton is bigger, stronger, quicker and more agile than Castillo. He'll move around him and keep chipping away until he goes.

Same style as the real fights apply but they may do a touch better, if that.

Hatton must get respect for what he did.

[Lee Mc]

What made Zoo tire? Having to try and keep Hatton off him for 3 minutes of every round, you have to give Hatton credit for that surely?

Yes, you do. But, and there will always be a but here, Tzsyu was a beast in the ring and, I believe, would have been able to see them last 4 rounds out when he was in his prime.

[Utter1]

Yep spot on.


Exactly..........not underatted in the whatsoever. He had the ample chance to fight most of the other big name fighters around due to his popularity but chose to duck Jnr Witter which would have been a good fight. Only time he risked it was against Kosta, Mayweather and Pacman.....esentially had to risk it against kosta as people were starting to get fed up and im sure he wanted to test himself.......smart/ cherry picking for years untill a HUGE money fight with Mayweather where he did ok but got knocked out......Mayweather dosent normally knockout the best but he did with Hatton and got destroyed by pacman.

Solid champion........but in the league of a John Ruiz

[Betty Swollocks]

I think the perception of him now is about right.

A good champion, good career.

Not elite, not great.

A lot of people overrated him, for a long time. Me included.

I didn't, it was pretty obvious to me he had the general public fooled. I think a lot of the hate aimed at him now is from people who were duped until recently....by which time it was too late and they'd already been ripped off by the fraud.
His fighting style is sleep-inducing yet he always said he was up there with Duran, Chavez etc....basically all his chat is cringeworthy and he was oveerated as fuck as a boxer.

in pure boxing terms he was never any better than a David Diaz, John Ruiz or Vic Darchinyan.

[kurt2006]

I think he is vastly overated. Kirkland Laing beat Duran, Honeyghan beat Curry....you get the picture they also get very little credit. No big deal is it? At least Hatton made more money than these other boxers with not even half the talent they had.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Pretty much agree.

I'd put him as an A- fighter rather than a B+ but I can see the arguments.

Also, maybe this is my Hatton tinted glasses, but the version of Tzsyu he beat was waaaaaaaaay better than the version of Castillo he beat. Dont think he gets the recognition he should for the Tzsyu win. Career best win of his and one of the best wins for any British champ in my opinion.

I would say Hatton is B+ at worst, A- at best. I cant decide on overall rating.
Now that the dust has settled on his career, Im man enough to tell it like it is. I may have hated Hatton, but I can respect his ring achievements in the cold light of day & give him the credit he deserves.

Not that he needs me to do that, all anyone needs to do is look at his belt collection(minus WBU of course). & if he comes back, I still pick him to add another belt to his collection, hes not done yet IMO.