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ishy
09-22-2009, 02:00 PM
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WBA heavyweight champion Nikolai Valuev and David Haye today came face-to-face for the first time ahead of their title clash in Nuremberg on November 7. “I believe I can knock him out,” Haye told a packed press conference at the Arena Nurnberger Versicherung. “I will take the title home with me.” Haye admitted that the preparation for the biggest fight of his life will be a difficult one. “It is hard to find sparring partners that are as tall as him,” he said. “But we will find some. This will be a true David-versus-Goliath battle. I am much faster than him and I will win.”

The Russian Giant certainly holds a different view. “Even though I have not fought for quite a while, I did not sit back and relax,” he stated. “I only had to take this long break because Ruslan Chagaev could not fight me. I have started my preparations for the fight at the end of June. In the past weeks I have been preparing specially for David Haye. He is a strong challenger but he will not beat me.”

And the biggest and tallest champion of all time added: “I will go back to Russia for a couple of days before returning to Berlin for sparring. Haye will try to edge me with his speed but I am prepared for that. He will not get my belt.”

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ishy
09-22-2009, 02:03 PM
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2tall2slow2
09-22-2009, 02:13 PM
The size difference is astonishing in those pics

KERRZO
09-22-2009, 02:16 PM
That is 1 large dude with 1 massive head!!!

kosaros
09-22-2009, 02:18 PM
The top Valuev has on would look like a dress on Haye.

achillesthegreat
09-22-2009, 02:19 PM
This is hilarious. I might show these pics around work and see if I can get some bets in.

kosaros
09-22-2009, 02:23 PM
I thought it would be hard for Valuev to find some decent clothes because of his size, but he has surprised me - he is one trendy guy :good

JIM KELLY
09-22-2009, 02:27 PM
wtf...lol

doug.ie
09-22-2009, 02:28 PM
jesus...looking at those pics its hard to imagine haye beating him...he definetly wont knock him out...
if anyone thinks haye will knock valuev out..then i'll have a wee bet with them.

digregorio1.
09-22-2009, 02:34 PM
just seen them face to face on skysports news - quite amuzing, i can see a lot of casual fans being attracted to buy this fight. should be good cant wait.

UndisputedUK
09-22-2009, 02:39 PM
The size difference looks awesome! The actual fight could be really strange.
I'm wondering if Haye can reach Valuev. I'm more worried about what will happen to Haye when Valuev manages to land on him. (Which he should)

HeavyT
09-22-2009, 02:42 PM
Looks like the abominable snowman with his illegitamete son.

Betty Swollocks
09-22-2009, 03:15 PM
I reckon Valuev is gonna knock Haye out, unfortunately. :mad:

this will be possibly ugliest mothefucker in the sport against one of the pretty boys of the sport.

Strike
09-22-2009, 03:16 PM
jesus...looking at those pics its hard to imagine haye beating him...he definetly wont knock him out...
if anyone thinks haye will knock valuev out..then i'll have a wee bet with them.


TKO. Yeah I'll take that. I bet a lot of people didn't think Baer would KO Carnera or that Dempsey would savage Willard.
Haye wont be able to miss with his right hand, he will be able to throw it from over the shoulder, looping for maximum leverage and it will still be too fast for Valuev.

Betty Swollocks
09-22-2009, 03:19 PM
TKO. Yeah I'll take that. I bet a lot of people didn't think Baer would KO Carnera or that Dempsey would savage Willard.
Haye wont be able to miss with his right hand, he will be able to throw it from over the shoulder, looping for maximum leverage and it will still be too fast for Valuev.

that's a fair point..there could be some spectacular impacts with Haye's booming right hand on that massive 10 gallon head on Valuev.

I still worry about Haye's jaw, Valuev is not a big puncher but probably still enough to rock Haye.

doug.ie
09-22-2009, 03:32 PM
TKO. Yeah I'll take that. I bet a lot of people didn't think Baer would KO Carnera or that Dempsey would savage Willard.
Haye wont be able to miss with his right hand, he will be able to throw it from over the shoulder, looping for maximum leverage and it will still be too fast for Valuev.

ok strike old son...what could we have as a wee friendly bet on it then ?

rusticraver
09-22-2009, 04:00 PM
Jesus! do you think you can even reach the geezers liver? he must have some thick middle

DUNNERS_2009
09-22-2009, 04:07 PM
The size difference is something out of a movie!

JonOli
09-22-2009, 04:10 PM
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09-22-2009, 04:12 PM
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Rangersfan1982
09-22-2009, 04:15 PM
If Haye fights smart then I think he will win no problem.

anjawnaymiz
09-22-2009, 04:21 PM
hayes lookin at that massive pint as if to say wtf is this shit!

great fight to get the casual fans on board.

i hope haye can do it, theres no way he's putting valuev down unless he lands a good body shot but i do think haye can get valuev to quit on his stool mid rounds, lets just hope hayes chin an stamina hold up!

cotto20
09-22-2009, 04:22 PM
:yikes:yikes:yikes

Losfer_Words
09-22-2009, 05:12 PM
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:rofl:rofl:roflI did actually laugh out loud. That is so funny. Interestingly enough, Haye's foreamrm seems bigger but that is one big head! Be like punching a Wildebeast.

teessider
09-22-2009, 05:23 PM
Fucking hell. He's huge, his head is massive i can see Haye breaking his hands hitting him.

superfly98
09-22-2009, 05:27 PM
Fucking hell. He's huge, his head is massive i can see Haye breaking his hands hitting him.

I agree I thought the exact same thing :yikes

DDA365
09-22-2009, 06:21 PM
Why is David Haye dressed as disgraced R&B star R.Kelly?

The taff
09-22-2009, 06:43 PM
Fack :yikes

Man that is unreal. Considering David Haye is a pretty big guy himself, thats just freaky.

I think the midrift will be the main target, i just hope Haye's hands hold up to it. I think he would have been better to fight Wlad, at least he could reach his head.

Losfer_Words
09-22-2009, 06:56 PM
I won't ruin it but there's a classic line from Haye at the start of this vid:

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:rofl Hilarious.

Kid Lucky
09-22-2009, 07:10 PM
Chagaev beat him didn't he and ain't any taller or better then Haye.

I think if Haye goes in looking to take him out early he will be in troube, think he and Booth will work out how many punches Valuev can throw around circle away, circle around jump in with single shots and get out again and try not to run out of gas by conserving as much energy as possible

GazOC
09-22-2009, 07:13 PM
I think is Haye is stood behind Valuev in the first 2 pics but theres still a BIG difference.

doylexxx
09-22-2009, 07:35 PM
if the V that fought sergie shows up the haye gets KOed IMO

However if the valuev that fought Holyfield shows up then it goes 12 with haye looking like the winner then robbed

big V is worth a large wager here gents

faisal
09-22-2009, 08:23 PM
if haye can KO him he deserves to be put into the hall of fame

ross8503
09-22-2009, 08:44 PM
On the BBC website there are more pixs with them closer together, the size is massive.
I don't think Haye will hurt Valuev and as the fight progresses the giant will slowly grind Haye down, just the sheer size and weight pushing down on him will tire Haye out.
Late stoppage to Valuev.

doylexxx
09-22-2009, 09:14 PM
I agree if big V is as active as he WAS

the evander fite was awful and that was a long time ago now

Plus freaky giants like that dont live too long lol

hayes gotta try and KO him

cant beat that guy on decision even the germans/finalnd/switxerland boo him to death now

JonOli
09-22-2009, 11:57 PM
Has Valuev ever fought anyone as quick as Haye? I don't think he has.

Haye normally looks pretty quick, he's going to look phenominaly quick against the big man.

HeavyT
09-23-2009, 12:01 AM
god, my thoughts on this fight change every five minutes. The close it gets though, the more I'm leaning towards a win for Valuev.

Farmboxer
09-23-2009, 03:53 AM
Haye is off balance, wide punches, has no stamina and Valouev has a rock chin, granite!!! Valouev has great stamina, has lots of power whenever he decides to use it, great jab, strong as Hell, and is taller than 7 feet, by the way. If Valouev lands a punch on Haye it will be all over. If Haye lands a punch, nothing will happen.

The "only" way Haye can win this fight is if Don King tells Valouev to throw the fight. Haye would have made much more money if he had fought Vitali or Vlad, but will still get a big check.

icemax
09-23-2009, 04:49 AM
This is a complete freak show....fucking great stuff :deal I'm surprised with the facial bone structure that he's got that Big Val doesn't get cut to ribbons

SteelTownCobra
09-23-2009, 05:31 AM
The ultimate male versus... the ultimate meatball.

bdman
09-23-2009, 06:11 AM
have u lot forgot what holyfield did to this valuev tit? He's not going to knock out haye for shit! The guy cant move, he's scared to fight and as soon as haye lands the haymaker on him he's gna back off and show wat a massive, huge, gigantic pussy he is..

El Cepillo
09-23-2009, 06:57 AM
If Valuev could actually box, as well as just being freakishly large, he'd be one of the greatest ever.

El Cepillo
09-23-2009, 06:58 AM
The ultimate male versus... the ultimate meatball.

:yep:good

Another quality post, Steeltown.

ramalinga
09-23-2009, 07:05 AM
Has Valuev ever fought anyone as quick as Haye? I don't think he has.

Haye normally looks pretty quick, he's going to look phenominaly quick against the big man.


Haye usually was the bigger guy at cruiser. The type of speed needed to fight a bigger, physically stronger opponent is a different animal. Haye has never developed a style of getting in and out fast, like shorter HW's who fought bigger guys from the beginning of their career. It remains to be seen if Haye can use his speed effectively against the giant.

SteelTownCobra
09-23-2009, 07:17 AM
:yep:good

Another quality post, Steeltown.
Thank you, kind sir.

icemax
09-23-2009, 07:27 AM
When Dempsey beat Willard to an absolute pulp there were rumours that Dempsey had a canvas bolt in his glove, as so much physical damage had been done to Willard...Haye and Booth must be panicing like fuck about how they are going to secrete one of these fuckers on Davids person when he climbs in against the Man Beast

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BURNLEYBLUE
09-23-2009, 07:55 AM
Fuck thats one big ugly fuckin unit. But the difference with this fight, I believe,will be Haye's speed,footwork and power.Forget the chin, Valuev is to slow and ponderous to land anything on Haye and if he does,his downward punching generates no power. Haye's quick but he will be made to look like lightening against this plodding freak.
Valuev is by far the worst heavyweight champion I have ever seen.They say your only as good as your last fight,well after the Holyfield debacle this guys on a serious decline and he was shite before that. Really cant see past Haye here. To much speed-to much skill-and to much power. Thats my opinion anyway.:good

Power
09-23-2009, 07:55 AM
This look like the pints that valuev should actually drink lol

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BURNLEYBLUE
09-23-2009, 08:02 AM
This look like the pints that valuev should actually drink lol

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:roflThe size difference is fuckin mental though.:scaredas:Haye really should of grown a massive fro:yep

icemax
09-23-2009, 08:04 AM
:roflThe size difference is fuckin mental though.:scaredas:Haye really should of grown a massive fro:yep

:rofl:lol::rofl

BURNLEYBLUE
09-23-2009, 08:09 AM
I reckon longcount could fix it

icemax
09-23-2009, 08:15 AM
I reckon longcount could fix it

Me too. I've had a look at doing it, but its beyond my skills

Losfer_Words
09-23-2009, 08:16 AM
:roflThe size difference is fuckin mental though.:scaredas:Haye really should of grown a massive fro:yep

:lol::lol::goodHe used to so he missed out this time round!:lol:

I reckon longcount could fix it

:lol:

There's a H2H (if you can call it that) at the very end of this gallery:

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The people bitching about Haye fail to recognise that they are talking about the HW division again.

Ilesey
09-23-2009, 09:13 AM
I've got a horrible feeling that Valuev will stop Haye. I will be rooting for Haye to end Valuev's reign and then mount an assault on the Klitschko sisters. We'll see just how Haye will overcome that size difference in November.

icemax
09-23-2009, 09:24 AM
If the shorter Chagaev can beat him, the taller and longer reached Haye certainly can

duranimal
09-23-2009, 09:30 AM
You gotta be fuckin kiddin me:lol: dear o dear just wait till that fuckin yeti leans down on Haye, it'll be like sqeezing juice from a grapefruit:smoke

Unforgiven
09-23-2009, 09:33 AM
If Haye is any good at all he should beat Valuev quite severely, probably KO him.

Valuev isn't even good. He was outboxed by a 900-year-old, banned-in-NY-for-being-crap Evander Holyfield in an absolute stinker last time out. Old man Holyfield's no bigger than Haye.
Haye should find Valuev ridiculously easy to hit.

Utter1
09-23-2009, 09:46 AM
I reckon Valuev is gonna knock Haye out, unfortunately. :mad:

this will be possibly ugliest mothefucker in the sport against one of the pretty boys of the sport.


Dont know about that........fighting isnt about looks.

Going by Valuev recent displays......whilst big is just to slow in speed and possibly most important reaction time. Durable, decent skills set and very very strong yes.......but his flaws are glaring. He is there to be hit.

The only reason this fight has a slight possibilty of Valuev winning is becuase Haye abilty to absorb shots and his starting/static strength are not there ( barret moved him around easily).

I pick Haye via tkor8

Power
09-23-2009, 09:47 AM
If Haye is any good at all he should beat Valuev quite severely, probably KO him.

Valuev isn't even good. He was outboxed by a 900-year-old, banned-in-NY-for-being-crap Evander Holyfield in an absolute stinker last time out. Old man Holyfield's no bigger than Haye.
Haye should find Valuev ridiculously easy to hit.


:deal i agree completely, just watching sky sports news then and people on the same dinner was asking me why there allowed to fight each other because of the size difference lol.
i told them i think the "little guy" will win lol they were shocked to hear haye's over 6ft3

tman17tm
09-23-2009, 09:55 AM
they said on sky its the equivalent weight distance of Haye fighting Ricky Hatton!!

Haye will KO him inside 6, he is too fast

Losfer_Words
09-23-2009, 10:01 AM
Found a decent pic of the venue:

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Nice little arena.

Govanmauler
09-23-2009, 10:03 AM
The ultimate male versus... the ultimate meatball.


ha ha ha ha ha shit it took me a minute to remember where that was from , Nice one !

I dunno if Haye will get away with using a choke hold mind you !

ramalinga
09-23-2009, 10:09 AM
If the shorter Chagaev can beat him, the taller and longer reached Haye certainly can


Chagaev always fought bigger men than himself. Haye moves up from CW where he always was the bigger guy to the biggest HW out there...he needs to fight smart to win, his athletic talent alone won't do the trick.

Strike
09-23-2009, 10:28 AM
ok strike old son...what could we have as a wee friendly bet on it then ?

Avatar bet, or sig bet etc...you decide.

DamonD
09-23-2009, 10:41 AM
Great pics. Hilarious size difference.

But those worrying about the fight due to this, just remember the problems Valuev had with the pretty similarly sized guys like Ruiz, Holyfield, Donald and Chagaev.

He's a damn big dude...but speed kills.

A Haye win would be tremendous for the division.

icemax
09-23-2009, 11:05 AM
A Haye win would be tremendous for the division.

Haye KO'ing Valuev would be even better, it would send shockwaves around the sport

Govanmauler
09-23-2009, 11:30 AM
Haye KO'ing Valuev would be even better, it would send shockwaves around the sport


That'll send shockwaves throught the earths crust


( you make the bullets, I'll fire them ;) )

achillesthegreat
09-23-2009, 12:30 PM
Good little avatar

stork
09-23-2009, 01:04 PM
Found a decent pic of the venue:

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Nice little arena.

That looks like a brilliant place to watch a fight

doug.ie
09-23-2009, 01:08 PM
Avatar bet, or sig bet etc...you decide.

ok..avatar bet for fun then..

so, i am saying haye will definetly NOT stop valuev...

haye wins on points - i win

ok ?

icemax
09-23-2009, 02:25 PM
That'll send shockwaves throught the earths crust


( you make the bullets, I'll fire them ;) )

:yep:thumbsup

doylexxx
09-23-2009, 09:03 PM
valuev was at his worst against evander, HAYE beats that guy no doubt.

However the V against barrett , especially sergie and a few others haye cant beat , hell even if haye wins he wont win he wont KO V


V to win is a good bet when u include the points robbery factor

bet the farm, wake up sunday

have 2 farms

lol

doylexxx
09-23-2009, 09:06 PM
:roflThe size difference is fuckin mental though.:scaredas:Haye really should of grown a massive fro:yep

he alrready has one, he just needs to unleash it:lol:

Dunky McCafferty
09-23-2009, 09:24 PM
Im backing the scotsman to win:good

doylexxx
09-23-2009, 10:20 PM
good pick

Farmboxer
09-24-2009, 03:05 AM
Valouev should just step on Haye and squash him like a roach.

kosaros
09-24-2009, 04:03 AM
Valouev should just step on Haye and squash him like a roach.

Like he did with Chagaev? :nut

nickythekid
09-24-2009, 08:10 AM
i think its definately winable for haye, but i do worry about the stamina, like someone said haye is going to be fighting against alot of weight, and having to do the majority of the work. i dont think valuev has great stamina just that his style and size allow him to conserve alot of energy. how sweet would it be though for haye to take him out with a huge overhand right...........................you never know

alfi balboa
09-24-2009, 10:31 AM
Ive never seen any1 have such a big head lol he is 1 big guy still think haye will win tho...does any1 know where to buy a hayemaker t-shirt from?

rusticraver
09-24-2009, 11:56 AM
tko 4 for Haye

:deal

brown bomber
09-24-2009, 11:58 AM
Lol... that guy is fucking huge. He will crush you like verm.

JIM KELLY
09-24-2009, 01:25 PM
if holyfied can take him on and nearly beating him, haye shouold have no problem.

2tall2slow2
09-24-2009, 01:49 PM
Ive never seen any1 have such a big head lol he is 1 big guy still think haye will win tho...does any1 know where to buy a hayemaker t-shirt from?


His myspace page

antcull
09-24-2009, 09:26 PM
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:lol: cant wait for this.

Wilox
09-25-2009, 05:35 AM
have u lot forgot what holyfield did to this valuev tit? He's not going to knock out haye for shit! The guy cant move, he's scared to fight and as soon as haye lands the haymaker on him he's gna back off and show wat a massive, huge, gigantic pussy he is..

:good

teessider
09-25-2009, 05:57 AM
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:lol: cant wait for this.

:lol: where did you find this? Can i stal it as my Avy?

SeasideSlugger
09-25-2009, 06:45 AM
Has Valuev ever been shaken at all?

The pic of them shaking hands seems to level things up a bit, did they stick Haye on a box?

God I shudder to think what Mrs Valuev thinks of that big hairy sweat coffin lying on top of her.......

threethirteen
09-25-2009, 06:50 AM
Valuev looked distressed when Ruiz got through with a few shots, I don't think he's as sturdy as he appears.

Darni187
09-25-2009, 07:18 AM
Fuck as Haye is down there he should just target the monster's body and bring the tree down once he is done chopping, watch out when he falls Haye he might crush you. :yep

Strike
09-26-2009, 08:44 AM
ok..avatar bet for fun then..

so, i am saying haye will definetly NOT stop valuev...

haye wins on points - i win

ok ?

Yeah.

JonOli
09-27-2009, 02:39 PM
David Haye must use his speed "and dance" according to Lewis.

“If he uses his speed he can dance around Valuev. I actually thought Holyfield beat Valuev and he's going to have trouble catching up to David. But if Valuev puts his weight on him, it's a lot to have to push off. David will be trying to hit these guys and knock them out, but these guys don't move easily."

Pretty much echoes what most people are saying really. Personally I don't think Holyfield beat Valuev though, they were both as unimpressive as each other.

'Ben'
09-27-2009, 03:42 PM
They should really have a super heavyweight division for today.

G.A.V.
09-27-2009, 03:45 PM
They should really have a super heavyweight division for today.
Too much gap between Cruiserweights and Heavyweights as it is to throw a third pedestal in there.

'Ben'
09-27-2009, 03:59 PM
Too much gap between Cruiserweights and Heavyweights as it is to throw a third pedestal in there.


I think light heavy onwards should be completely changed altogether.

madballster
09-28-2009, 05:09 PM
Has Valuev ever fought anyone as quick as Haye? I don't think he has.He fought Donald and I think Donald won that fight. He was robbed.

Acually that Donald fight would be the blueprint for Haye, just Haye fights NOTHING like Donald. Completely different style, Haye is much more offensive, taking bigger risks and trying to land bombs from all angles. More exciting, but also exposing his chin more.

JonOli
09-28-2009, 05:21 PM
He fought Donald and I think Donald won that fight. He was robbed.

Acually that Donald fight would be the blueprint for Haye, just Haye fights NOTHING like Donald. Completely different style, Haye is much more offensive, taking bigger risks and trying to land bombs from all angles. More exciting, but also exposing his chin more.


I know it was a close fight, but Valuev looks a bit better there than he has done recently.

Donald does manage to get inside to land at times though, which is perhaps a good sign for Haye (as you say though, Donald is a different fighter).


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