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snakerattle79
09-23-2009, 01:30 PM
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LB3000
09-23-2009, 02:47 PM
Undecided about this. At the very least it will give experience to the fighters who have never fought in a cage. Nice video though.

Beebs
09-23-2009, 03:14 PM
Thank god, finally realizing that a thousand little Japanese men slapping the fighters hands, refs stopping the action every 5 seconds, fighters falling out of the ring onto the floor, and fighters cheating by ducking under the ropes is not the best way to put on an MMA fight.

achillesthegreat
09-23-2009, 05:17 PM
A ring doesn't work for MMA.

liger05
09-24-2009, 02:26 AM
They want to test the cage in this event and if this will be welcomed by the fans they are planning to hold one show per year in a cage. That's it. It's not a permanent switch.

Great video though. The Japanese always go great Promo videos.

scurlaruntings
09-24-2009, 03:32 PM
A ring doesn't work for MMA.Yes it does. Not a fan of the cage. Its an unfair advantage. Iv seen many a beautiful war in the ring. Thats men from the boys right there! :D

Beebs
09-24-2009, 03:52 PM
Yes it does. Not a fan of the cage. Its an unfair advantage. Iv seen many a beautiful war in the ring. Thats men from the boys right there! :D

Just watch the Jim York Antonio Silva fight from this week.

It is just flat out inferior in everyway.

achillesthegreat
09-25-2009, 03:33 AM
The ropes don't do the job of keeping a guy in the ring.

MMA could be in a pig pen, doesn't mean that's the best place for it.

Polymath
09-25-2009, 06:34 AM
Dogs fight in a cage :(

Beebs
09-25-2009, 08:25 AM
Dogs fight in a cage :(

Because it works better for them as well.

MaliSlamusrex
09-26-2009, 04:18 PM
I dont like the cage, wrestlers can get lazy and rest against the cage. I prefer the ring.

achillesthegreat
09-26-2009, 04:22 PM
The cage is also much bigger allowing for much more movement and crazy moves like running flying elbows and knees etc.

Beebs
09-26-2009, 05:21 PM
It's just nonsensical; the only reason for a ring is nostaliga and irrational hatred for orgs that use the cage.

If the cage was used from the start, nobody would ever think it was anything by the height of stupidity to change to a ring.

"Hey guys, let's change the arena fights are in; instead of being able to keep fighters inside and safe from falling onto concrete, let's put huge gaps in the side and make it out of a flexible material that allows fighters to become entangled in it.

Wait, even better idea, let's not only replace the retaining material with air, let's lower the height of it so that it's possible to fall OVER the top, not just through the middle. Whew, almost missd a huge opportunity to screw up our system even more.

After that we can change it from a logical shape that's more or less round and the same from all positions, we should add corners to make the arena less consistent and equal.

Then we can give fighters multiple opportunities to cheat, changing the fight in a way that can never be rectified; first we need to give guys the best possible opportunity to change takedowns, first we need them to be able to get a firm steady grip on something to avoid the takedown, then we need to make sure they are bouncy so that if a fighter happens to get thrown into them he can rebound off then and land on top.

Then, if a fighter manages to keep his opponent from cheating and actually gets the takedown we need to make sure that the while grappling a fighter in danger can simply duck under or between these huge gaps and have the ref stop a live fight cold, move them 10 ft (and delay the restart for long enough for the guy in danger to recover, assuming it's the crowd favorite) and break all the momentum and eliminate the advantages the guy doing the damage has earned.

Then for even more stupidity we can have a bunch of fat middle aged Asian men slap the fighters if they touh the ropes; because we all know fighters would never be willing to trade a literal slap on the wrist to change the tide of the fight.

Then for the grand finale we will make take the single most important and basic job of the side of the arena, to keep the fighters in the arena, and completly impair their ability to do it.

Personally I can't think of anything better for our sport than to have the greatest fighter in history in the biggest HW fight ever at the time, fall through the side of the arena, whose sold purpose in the world is to prevent just such a thing from happening. Let's make sure that our sport can have it's greatest ever in danger of not breing able to finish the fight; better yet let's make sure that's possible for fighters to seriously injur themselves, possibly ending their careers, all because we took a solid enclosure, took away 90% of the retaining material and replaced them with huge gaps, and of course lowered it from head level to just above waist level. What good is a retaining system they doesn't allow at least 2 ways to seriously injur fighters."

Seriously, it's unsafe, unfair, and unreasonable. The only reason it exists is because it was thought of first. It worked slightly better for spectaters than the typical ring I. The dirt during the bare knuckr boxing days, by even then it was inferior from a sporting perspective.