Muhammad Ali in 1966

[C. M. Clay II]

One of the greatest single-season performances in boxing history, IMO. If you understand exactly what he had to do and the rigorous schedule he had to endure, you would agree. Ali fought 5 times in this year, and had to go into hostile territory every-single time.

First he fights George Chuvalo in March, and he fights it on Canadian soil, where everyone will be pulling for Chuvalo. Not only that, but Ali only had 17 days to train! Despite that, Ali comes in in decent shape and puts on a boxing clinic, losing only one or two rounds and winning at least twelve of the fifteen. Then in May, he has a rematch with Henry Cooper, who decked him three years ago. Again, he fights him on his native soild of Britain, where Muhammad's only cheering section are his seconds. He comes in fantastic shape and demontrates how excellent he is in rematches, by completely neutralizing Cooper's left hook and doing more on the inside. He then ends the fight in the sixth, by cuttting up and wobbling the challenger, prompting a stoppage. August 6, and he's back in the ring against Brian London. Again, he only has about three weeks to train, and his opponent has home field advantage, but he still manages to destroy his challenger with relative ease. Six weeks later and it's off to Germany to face 3rd ranked Karl Mildenberger. Ali whips himself into phenominal shape, and has to find it in him to overcome a crowd booing against him. He also was brave enough to take on a southpaw, as many other champions in the past never wanted anypart of southpaws, as they are hard to fight because of their awkwardness. However, Ali still comes throught in the clutch. Then he comes back to the U.S. and fights Houston's Cleveland Willams, in Houston, Texas. In this last fight of the year, Ali puts on possibly the greatest performance by a pugilist of all-time, All the while hearing a crowd of boos.

For Ali to schedule fights at that pace and to travel to different countries fighting in hostile territory, each and every single time is remarkable to say the least. Five title fights in one year is an amazing feat. Truly 1966 was the year of Muhammad Ali!:good

[My dinner with Conteh]

1966 will always be known as something else to an Englishman, but besides that it was a great year for Ali.

[My dinner with Conteh]

England won World Cup but, even more importantly, Everton won the FA Cup. Here's some of our fans with some guy called Clay, summer of 66. :good

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[C. M. Clay II]

what happend in 1966? did england win the world cup or something?




Larry holmes KO 11 Peak ali

Yes. How dare Ali be 7 years older? He has more experience that way. Also Ali taking two years off and shedding over 50lbs quickly was not fair by Ali, as he would be more rested and refreshed from fighting. Ali had every advantage that night, and Holmes didn't.:yep

[My dinner with Conteh]

The Mallard TKO 11 The Drake.

[My dinner with Conteh]

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:good

[Nemesis]

England won World Cup but, even more importantly, Everton won the FA Cup. Here's some of our fans with some guy called Clay, summer of 66. :good

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Cracking pic :good

if only i could resize the picture for my avatar

[Nemesis]

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:good

you been to the Liverpool library?

[Dempsey1238]

Ali 1966 is way over rated.

Walker, Robinson, Armstrong, Canzi, Leonard, Gans, all had way better YEARLY runs than Ali ever did in 66 imo. plus other fighters that fought 40 times a year.

And one tiny invented made the travel possible, the Airplane.

If Ali went to thsos countrys by Train I be impress(As Greb and Dempsey were doing in the 20's)

[McGrain]

MDWC, those are some nice pics.

The following year of course, Scotland battered England and Celtic became the first British club to lift the European Cup.

[C. M. Clay II]

Ali 1966 is way over rated.

Walker, Robinson, Armstrong, Canzi, Leonard, Gans, all had way better YEARLY runs than Ali ever did in 66 imo. plus other fighters that fought 40 times a year.

And one tiny invented made the travel possible, the Airplane.

If Ali went to thsos countrys by Train I be impress(As Greb and Dempsey were doing in the 20's)

Were they all title fights?

[Dempsey1238]

Doesnt matter, when your traveling from one city to other city fighting the likes of Tiger Flowers, Mike Gibbions, and Walker in a few weeks time, train to train to reach the city. Ali had it easy in regards to travel.

[Street Lethal]

Hell of a lot easier traveling by train. You get to lay down and sleep. You have room to have meals around a table. Traveling by plane increases your changes of contracting respiratory ailments, and pressure causes balance problems.

Totally silly argument Dempsey is making. Obviously he's got a thing against Ali.

[Dempsey1238]

It may take a few days to reach were your going by Train. And most of these 1920's were not places of comfort.

Ali could get there in 14 hours time. Ali had it easy.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Ali 1966 is way over rated.

Walker, Robinson, Armstrong, Canzi, Leonard, Gans, all had way better YEARLY runs than Ali ever did in 66 imo. plus other fighters that fought 40 times a year.

And one tiny invented made the travel possible, the Airplane.

If Ali went to thsos countrys by Train I be impress(As Greb and Dempsey were doing in the 20's)



I see Demspey doesn't feature in your 'great years' list mind, just the fact that he took the train a lot. Wow!

[mcvey]

One of the greatest single-season performances in boxing history, IMO. If you understand exactly what he had to do and the rigorous schedule he had to endure, you would agree. Ali fought 5 times in this year, and had to go into hostile territory every-single time.

First he fights George Chuvalo in March, and he fights it on Canadian soil, where everyone will be pulling for Chuvalo. Not only that, but Ali only had 17 days to train! Despite that, Ali comes in in decent shape and puts on a boxing clinic, losing only one or two rounds and winning at least twelve of the fifteen. Then in May, he has a rematch with Henry Cooper, who decked him three years ago. Again, he fights him on his native soild of Britain, where Muhammad's only cheering section are his seconds. He comes in fantastic shape and demontrates how excellent he is in rematches, by completely neutralizing Cooper's left hook and doing more on the inside. He then ends the fight in the sixth, by cuttting up and wobbling the challenger, prompting a stoppage. August 6, and he's back in the ring against Brian London. Again, he only has about three weeks to train, and his opponent has home field advantage, but he still manages to destroy his challenger with relative ease. Six weeks later and it's off to Germany to face 3rd ranked Karl Mildenberger. Ali whips himself into phenominal shape, and has to find it in him to overcome a crowd booing against him. He also was brave enough to take on a southpaw, as many other champions in the past never wanted anypart of southpaws, as they are hard to fight because of their awkwardness. However, Ali still comes throught in the clutch. Then he comes back to the U.S. and fights Houston's Cleveland Willams, in Houston, Texas. In this last fight of the year, Ali puts on possibly the greatest performance by a pugilist of all-time, All the while hearing a crowd of boos.

For Ali to schedule fights at that pace and to travel to different countries fighting in hostile territory, each and every single time is remarkable to say the least. Five title fights in one year is an amazing feat. Truly 1966 was the year of Muhammad Ali!:good
To be fair to Chuvalo ,he also took the fight on short notice,[14 days],the original opponent match was with Terrell ,but that fell out because of some of the "faces "in Ernies managerial setup.

[Nemesis]

Not only the first British but also the first non-spanish and non-italian club. Hope they go far this year i somehow have a soft spot for Celtic since the UEFA cup final 2003.

all heart, commitment and endeavour but not much else

[Dempsey1238]

I see Demspey doesn't feature in your 'great years' list mind, just the fact that he took the train a lot. Wow!

Well Dempsey didnt take on the type of foes that Armstrong or Benny took. imo. Armstrong's best year was perhaps 1937. 27 wins, and most of em by ko. And most of thsos guys were world beaters. I relly have a hard time comparing say Armstrong's best year with Ali's 66 imo.

[Dempsey1238]

looking over Armstrong's record, his 1938 is impressive also.

Wins over Ross, Wright, Arizmendi, and Garcia are better than Ali's 66 lol.

[ron u.k.]

never the less if a modern day heavyweight champ did what ali did they would probably be in raptures over him.

[Sweet Science]

Yeah, England won the Football World Cup against Germany with a goal where people still argueing today if it was one or not :D

It wasn't a goal as the whole of the ball didn't cross the line.

[Sweet Science]

Depends who you ask, i know plenty who will argue that is was one.

This mistake was the turning point in the match. Had it been correctly disallowed, Germany wouldn't have been so disheartened and would possibly have gone on to win. Over 40 years on and my fellow Englishmen still hold on to that faded memory of England beating Germany and Bobby Moore holding aloft the World Cup, in the delusional and futile hope that it could possibly happen again. England will never win another world cup.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Yeah, England won the Football World Cup against Germany with a goal where people still argueing today if it was one or not :D


...and Germany won the world cup in 1974 with the help of a penalty that referee Jack Taylor later admitted that he shouldn't have given. :good

[My dinner with Conteh]

Not only the first British but also the first non-spanish and non-italian club. Hope they go far this year i somehow have a soft spot for Celtic since the UEFA cup final 2003.



...apart from Benfica of course. :good

[My dinner with Conteh]

This mistake was the turning point in the match. Had it been correctly disallowed, Germany wouldn't have been so disheartened and would possibly have gone on to win. Over 40 years on and my fellow Englishmen still hold on to that faded memory of England beating Germany and Bobby Moore holding aloft the World Cup, in the delusional and futile hope that it could possibly happen again. England will never win another world cup.


Yeah, poor Germany. They've never had the rub of the green in big tournaments. :nut

[Sweet Science]

Yeah, poor Germany. They've never had the rub of the green in big tournaments. :nut

True, I'm not saying that England haven't been paid back in full.

My personal favourite was that glorious day in Mexico on 22nd June '86.
England being humbled by the great Diego Armando Maradona.

[My dinner with Conteh]

True, I'm not saying that England haven't been paid back in full.

My personal favourite was that glorious day in Mexico on 22nd June '86.
England being humbled by the great Diego Armando Maradona.


2-1 is hardly with one dodgy goal is hardly 'humbling'.

[My dinner with Conteh]

14th June 1982 is what I'd call 'humbling'. :hey

[Sweet Science]

2-1 is hardly with one dodgy goal is hardly 'humbling'.

:D One goal may have been dodgy, but the other where he managed to make a fool of the whole England defence, well that was just sublime. I say it was humbling because England (not a bad team at the time) were humbled by essentially a one man team.

In fact the 1st goal Mano De Dios was also an amazing sight to behold.

[My dinner with Conteh]

I say it was humbling because England (not a bad team at the time) were humbled by essentially a one man team.


So he played defence and in goal too? Wow. Some player he must have been.

[Sweet Science]

So he played defence and in goal too? Wow. Some player he must have been.

Yes, only he could make it seem that way. What a great man he was.

[ChrisPontius]

...and Germany won the world cup in 1974 with the help of a penalty that referee Jack Taylor later admitted that he shouldn't have given. :good

'1974' still hurts for many dutch people...

[My dinner with Conteh]

Yes, only he could make it seem that way. What a great man he was.


Mattheus marked him out the game in the final, pity he needed his team mates to get him out of trouble when it mattered most.

[My dinner with Conteh]

'1974' still hurts for many dutch people...


Holland were extremely unfortunate to play the hosts in both their world cup final appearances. They should have won for definite in 74, 5 or 6 teams could have won it in 1978.

[Sweet Science]

Mattheus marked him out the game in the final, pity he needed his team mates to get him out of trouble when it mattered most.

Mattheus was a great player too, but he couldn't contain Maradona himself, Germany had him double marked. Maradona, like all greats is entitled to an off day, but even on an off day he was able to set up the winning goal for Burruchaga.:yep

[My dinner with Conteh]

Mattheus was a great player too, but he couldn't contain Maradona himself, Germany had him double marked. Maradona, like all greats is entitled to an off day, but even on an off day he was able to set up Burruchaga for the winning goal.:yep


An off day in the biggest game of his life. Yeah, Burrachaga's goal was on a plate- he only had to tap it in. :good

[Sweet Science]

An off day in the biggest game of his life. :good

Yes exactly, thats the measure of the greatest most talented player ever to walk the earth. Maradona, having an off day in the biggest game of his life was still able to impose himself and lead his team to victory.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Yes exactly, thats the measure of the greatest most talented player ever to walk the earth. Maradona, having an off day in the biggest game of his life was still able to impose himself and lead his team to victory.


But a one-man team doesn't need 3 other players to score for him. :good

[C. M. Clay II]

To be fair to Chuvalo ,he also took the fight on short notice,[14 days],the original opponent match was with Terrell ,but that fell out because of some of the "faces "in Ernies managerial setup.

Yeah, but Chuvalo was already in good shape. Ali only trained for 17 days.

[ron u.k.]

True, I'm not saying that England haven't been paid back in full.

My personal favourite was that glorious day in Mexico on 22nd June '86.
England being humbled by the great Diego Armando Maradona.so your english and enjoyed that?

[My dinner with Conteh]

so your english and enjoyed that?


Probably an immigrant.

[Nemesis]

Probably an immigrant.

A muslim too :hey

[C. M. Clay II]

Will you all stop hijacking my thread?

[mcvey]

Yeah, but Chuvalo was already in good shape. Ali only trained for 17 days.
Well Chuvalo was the late substitute not Ali ,so one presumes he had done some training for the fight with Terrell ,thatdidnt come off.

[My dinner with Conteh]

A muslim too :hey


Some sad cunt anyway. I don't necessarily think there's anything wrong with not liking the England team if you hate some of the players/staff (I didn't really want Beckham or Erickson to lift the cup to be honest) but to have great joy at their losses, and get pissed off at one before he was probably born. :huh

[C. M. Clay II]

Well Chuvalo was the late substitute not Ali ,so one presumes he had done some training for the fight with Terrell ,thatdidnt come off.

He came into training camp weighing 226½lbs so he was not in shape, plus he had 17 days to work it off.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Is that something bad?


It's a joke, lighten up. :good

[C. M. Clay II]

no.

yes

[mcvey]

Probably an immigrant.
Classic Football is on another Forum,this is about the Noble Art Of Self Defence,kindly confine your posts to matters concerning Pugilism.eg not your favourite music track,not world cup Soccer but F*****G Boxing!

[Nemesis]

Will you all stop hijacking my thread?:D no

[My dinner with Conteh]

Well, i´m German, i just can´t. :D



But the Germans did like their Monty Python. :good

[My dinner with Conteh]

Classic Football is on another Forum,this is about the Noble Art Of Self Defence,kindly confine your posts to matters concerning Pugilism.eg not your favourite music track,not world cup Soccer but F*****G Boxing!


Sorry squire, it was just in relation to 1966, Ali and Everton fans. There was a link, originally.

[Nemesis]

Is that something bad?

no not really, it just seems the UK is being invaded by assylum seekers from the likes of Somalia and ****stan (who happen to be Muslims) and they all seem to have this anti-England agenda

There has been a few high profile murders in the UK from gangs from the two countries above

[Nemesis]

Some sad cunt anyway. I don't necessarily think there's anything wrong with not liking the England team if you hate some of the players/staff (I didn't really want Beckham or Erickson to lift the cup to be honest) but to have great joy at their losses, and get pissed off at one before he was probably born. :huh

nah he's definetly an immigrant he's always criticising the British fighters as well

[My dinner with Conteh]

nah he's definetly an immigrant he's always criticising the British fighters as well


Sad fucker. Why doesn't he fuck off out the country then? :huh

[redrooster]

^^ I can't stand this piece of sh*t

[prime]

One of the greatest single-season performances in boxing history, IMO. If you understand exactly what he had to do and the rigorous schedule he had to endure, you would agree. Ali fought 5 times in this year, and had to go into hostile territory every-single time.

First he fights George Chuvalo in March, and he fights it on Canadian soil, where everyone will be pulling for Chuvalo. Not only that, but Ali only had 17 days to train! Despite that, Ali comes in in decent shape and puts on a boxing clinic, losing only one or two rounds and winning at least twelve of the fifteen. Then in May, he has a rematch with Henry Cooper, who decked him three years ago. Again, he fights him on his native soild of Britain, where Muhammad's only cheering section are his seconds. He comes in fantastic shape and demontrates how excellent he is in rematches, by completely neutralizing Cooper's left hook and doing more on the inside. He then ends the fight in the sixth, by cuttting up and wobbling the challenger, prompting a stoppage. August 6, and he's back in the ring against Brian London. Again, he only has about three weeks to train, and his opponent has home field advantage, but he still manages to destroy his challenger with relative ease. Six weeks later and it's off to Germany to face 3rd ranked Karl Mildenberger. Ali whips himself into phenominal shape, and has to find it in him to overcome a crowd booing against him. He also was brave enough to take on a southpaw, as many other champions in the past never wanted anypart of southpaws, as they are hard to fight because of their awkwardness. However, Ali still comes throught in the clutch. Then he comes back to the U.S. and fights Houston's Cleveland Willams, in Houston, Texas. In this last fight of the year, Ali puts on possibly the greatest performance by a pugilist of all-time, All the while hearing a crowd of boos.

For Ali to schedule fights at that pace and to travel to different countries fighting in hostile territory, each and every single time is remarkable to say the least. Five title fights in one year is an amazing feat. Truly 1966 was the year of Muhammad Ali!:good

In 1966, Ali was reaching the peak of his powers as a fighter, but he had become person non grata in his own country for daring to speak his mind about a certain war.

This, plus the fact that he truly took to heart the title of Champion of the World lent itself to our seeing Ali in venues such as Canada, England and Germany in 1966.

It all came to a head at the Astrodome against the Big Cat, as Ali showed what the most talented heavyweight champion of all time could do when inspired by the inner fire of the good fight.

I sometimes think about Ali in '66. He knew he was the greatest fighter in the world, yet, instead of simply going the way of hedonism and conceit, he sided with the little and exploited. Whenever I envision him floating so marvelously and royally that night in Houston, I see a true champion in and out of the ring.

[chimba]

In 1966, Ali was reaching the peak of his powers as a fighter, but he had become person non grata in his own country for daring to speak his mind about a certain war.

This, plus the fact that he truly took to heart the title of Champion of the World lent itself to our seeing Ali in venues such as Canada, England and Germany in 1966.

It all came to a head at the Astrodome against the Big Cat, as Ali showed what the most talented heavyweight champion of all time could do when inspired by the inner fire of the good fight.

I sometimes think about Ali in '66. He knew he was the greatest fighter in the world, yet, instead of simply going the way of hedonism and conceit, he sided with the little and exploited. Whenever I envision him floating so marvelously and royally that night in Houston, I see a true champion in and out of the ring.

Well said, truly the greatest:good

[Sweet Science]

so your english and enjoyed that?

I'm just not blindly patriotic.

I always base my judgements on morals rather than nationalism.

[Sweet Science]

Probably an immigrant.

Afraid not, I was born in England, so I'm just as English as you.

Then again you probably subscribe to the late Bernard Mannings racist theory:

"If a dog is born in a barn doesn't make him a horse"

[Sweet Science]

A muslim too :hey

Yes I'm a muslim, what of it?

[Sweet Science]

no not really, it just seems the UK is being invaded by assylum seekers from the likes of Somalia and ****stan (who happen to be Muslims) and they all seem to have this anti-England agenda

There has been a few high profile murders in the UK from gangs from the two countries above

You are clearly a racist fuck. You need to be re-educated or shot.

I would go with the latter option as it is more economically viable and less time consuming.

[Sweet Science]

Sad fucker. Why doesn't he fuck off out the country then? :huh

You're the sad fucker and a prejudiced one at that.

If I criticise something about the country I live in (and was born in), this does not mean I should leave.

Dumb small minded scouse fuckers like you give all your fellow liverpudlians a bad name.

[Street Lethal]

^^ I can't stand this piece of sh*t
Some serious racism going down in this thread for sure.

[Street Lethal]

I'm just not blindly patriotic.

I always base my judgements on morals rather than nationalism.
Amen.

[young griffo]

It's funny how anything to do with the "World Game" seems to bring out the worst in people.

I watched a doco about English hooligans at the last World Cup and they seemed to equate their booze riddled racism and violence as showing patriotism towards their country.But all patriotism meant to them was denigrating or beating up someone who looked or spoke differently to them and happened to support another country.

And all this over a game.

It's very sad.

[Sweet Science]

It's funny how anything to do with the "World Game" seems to bring out the worst in people.

I watched a doco about English hooligans at the last World Cup and they seemed to equate their booze riddled racism and violence as showing patriotism towards their country.But all patriotism meant to them was denigrating or beating up someone who looked or spoke differently to them and happened to support another country.

And all this over a game.

It's very sad.

You are 100% correct. To be honest, the racist hooligans are the main reason I don't support England at football. It is embarressing to be associated with such a bunch of pathetic mindless animals.

[Sweet Science]

Amen.

Thank you for your support I appreciate it.

[Luigi1985]

I'm just not blindly patriotic.

I always base my judgements on morals rather than nationalism.


Good opinion. Otherwise you would be also wrong at a sport like boxing!

[Nemesis]

You are clearly a racist fuck. You need to be re-educated or shot.

I would go with the latter option as it is more economically viable and less time consuming.

Typical overreaction and you wonder why people are weary of your religion (if they dont conform, kill 'em)

explain why I'm racist, i dont even support the national team, but I'd never get a kick out of seeing them get beat.

[Sweet Science]

Good opinion. Otherwise you would be also wrong at a sport like boxing!

:good Exactly.

[Luigi1985]

:good Exactly.



:thumbsup

[Sweet Science]

Typical overreaction and you wonder why people are weary of your religion (if they dont conform, kill 'em)

explain why I'm racist, i dont even support the national team, but I'd never get a kick out of seeing them get beat.

I didn't say you deserve to be shot because you don't conform. I said you deserve to be shot because you are clearly a racist.

You are obviously a racist and your attitude is pathetic.

Just because I don't happen to support the English Football Team, you accuse me of being an assylum seeker or immigrant. Then you bring up the fact that I'm muslim, as if that has anything to do with it. You said Somalians and ****stani's come to the uk to cause problems and kill people etc.

Generally people aren't wary of my religion, because they don't believe the media bullshit and assume we are all terrorists. However, retarded fuckers like you don't know how to think for themselves. You probably think all black people are drug dealers and gangsters.

Like I said you are just plain pathetic. A fucking racist.

[Nemesis]

You are a racist and your attitude is pathetic.

Just because I don't happen to support the English Football Team, you accuse me of being an assylum seeker or immigrant. Then you bring up the fact that I'm muslim, as if that has anything to do with it. You said Somalians and ****stani's come to the uk to cause problems and kill people etc.

Generally people aren't wary of my religion, because they don't believe the media bullshit and assume we are all terrorists. However, retarded fuckers like you don't know how to think for themselves. You probably think all black people are drug dealers and gangsters.

Like I said you are just plain pathetic. A fucking racist.
If you can find any other of my 2000odd posts which would constitute a racist opinion, then you can call me a racist!

I'm done with you :good

[Sweet Science]

If you can find any other of my 2000odd posts which would constitute a racist opinion, then you can call me a racist!

I'm done with you :good

Why would I want to trawl through and read the retarded drivel in your other 2000+ posts?

I've just told you exactly why you are a racist in my previous post.

So Fuck Off.

[My dinner with Conteh]

I'm just not blindly patriotic.

I always base my judgements on morals rather than nationalism.


Hey, that's fine. I think it was Samuel Johnson that once said "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel". However, having an England defeat as your 'favourite ever moment' I think's a bit sad to be honest. I'm sure there's not too many Argies that have the world Cup 1990 defeat as their 'best ever moment'. Maybe a few didn't give a fuck if they won or lost, that's fine, they don't have to. Still...


So, June 22nd 1986 is your best moment, what's your 'second best': 1st July 1916, the first day of the Battle of the Somme?

[Sweet Science]

Hey, that's fine. I think it was Samuel Johnson that once said "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel". However, having an England defeat as your 'favourite ever moment' I think's a bit sad to be honest. I'm sure there's not too many Argies that have the world Cup 1990 defeat as their 'best ever moment'. Maybe a few didn't give a fuck if they won or lost, that's fine, they don't have to. Still...


So, June 22nd 1986 is your best moment, what's your 'second best': 1st July 1916, the first day of the Battle of the Somme?

I didn't say it was my best moment full stop did I?

We were speaking in the context of the '66 England V Germany disputed goal incident and I said in terms of England getting their cummupance, '86 was my favourite moment. You took offence to this and your hatred of me culminated in you calling me an immigrant. Followed by another distasteful comment when you said I should leave the country.

[Manassa]

Sweet Science isn't English at all. I remember talking to him via PM and he's actually from Eastern Europe.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Sweet Science isn't English at all. I remember talking to him via PM and he's actually from Eastern Europe.


Typical. He's probably just pretending he's English to antagonize people. :huh

[Sweet Science]

Sweet Science isn't English at all. I remember talking to him via PM and he's actually from Eastern Europe.

Why the fuck would I want to talk to you via PM?!!

[My dinner with Conteh]

You said this:

My personal favourite was that glorious day in Mexico on 22nd June '86.
England being humbled by the great Diego Armando Maradona. :hi:

[Sweet Science]

Typical. He's probably just pretending he's English to antagonize people. :huh

I live in Manchester, how does that make me eastern european?

[Manassa]

Why the fuck would I want to talk to you via PM?!!

I don't know, comrade, but you did.

[Sweet Science]

You said this:

:hi:

Yes in the context of Englands cumupance in football.

You fucking obnoxious retard.

[Sweet Science]

I don't know, comrade, but you did.

Ok brother keep smoking the crack:smoke

[My dinner with Conteh]

Yes in the context of Englands cumupance in football.

You fucking obnoxious retard.


The thing is, it's only 'sport'. It's not politics or a corrupt government or anything. If people can't support their 'country' at sport, then when can they support them?

[Manassa]

I live in Manchester, how does that make me eastern european?

You live in Manchester now, but you were born in Ukraine or some other country where every man has a beard, a bottle of vodka and has a name that ends in 'ov'.

[Manassa]

There was/is another user called sweet_science, i hope you didn´t mix thm up ;)

Nah. He's from somewhere East of that scummy place they call Germany.

Oops :oops:

[McGrain]

You live in Manchester now, but you were born in Ukraine or some other country where every man has a beard, a bottle of vodka and has a name that ends in 'ov'.

I think you've made Eastern Europe sound cooler than you menat to.

[Manassa]

I think you've made Eastern Europe sound cooler than you menat to.

Probably :lol:

[My dinner with Conteh]

You live in Manchester now, but you were born in Ukraine or some other country where every man has a beard, a bottle of vodka and has a name that ends in 'ov'.



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"Come on Diego, stick it in with your hand, comrade".

[Manassa]

:lol:

Ah, I love playing the antagonist.

[Sweet Science]

You live in Manchester now, but you were born in Ukraine or some other country where every man has a beard, a bottle of vodka and has a name that ends in 'ov'.

You nearly got a laugh out of me then.
You should be a comedian mate, only that wouldn't really work either.

[Manassa]

You nearly got a laugh out of me then.
You should be a comedian mate, only that would really work either.

... And you should work on your sentence structure, mate :good

To be fair though, I suppose English isn't your first language.

[Sweet Science]

... And you should work on your sentence structure, mate :good

To be fair though, I suppose English isn't your first language.

I've told you before spelling and grammar etc isn't my strong point. However, English is my 1st language.

[Manassa]

I've told you before spelling and grammar etc isn't my strong point. However, English is my 1st language.

Oh yea, sorry. You did tell me that when we last spoke via PM.

[Sweet Science]

Oh yea, sorry. You did tell me that when we last spoke via PM.

Now you're getting the hang of it son.

Soon I'll be able to throw away all my Richard Pryor tapes and listen to you instead.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Oh yea, sorry. You did tell me that when we last spoke via PM.


:yep

[My dinner with Conteh]

Now you're getting the hang of it son.

Soon I'll be able to throw away all my Richard Pryor tapes and listen to you instead.


I'm surprised you've got time to watch tapes when you're mission is to serve Alan the eternal God.

[Sweet Science]

I'm surprised you've got time to watch tapes when you're mission is to serve Alan the eternal God.

Oh, I see you've been reading about my hobbies and interests on my profile. How very sad you are.

Praising Alan isn't really anything to do with me.

If you meant praising Allah though...

Well you know, theres nothing in Islam that prevents me from watching great comdians.

[McGrain]

Probably time to pack this up gents.

It's reading kind of ugly.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Praising Alan isn't really anything to do with me.

If you meant praising Allah though...


Sorry, always get those mixed up. I'll just use Al in the future, eh. ;)

[Sweet Science]

Sorry, always get those mixed up. I'll just use Al in the future, eh. ;)

Use what you want you offensive little cretin.

[Manassa]

Now you're getting the hang of it son.

Soon I'll be able to throw away all my Richard Pryor tapes and listen to you instead.

I bet you look like Ace Ventura.

[Manassa]

With a funny hat and glasses and stuff, maybe a peg leg as well.

[Sweet Science]

I bet you look like Ace Ventura.

It's funny you should say that..

Erm then again no it isn't.

Keep practicing mate, don't worry I won't give up on you that easily.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Use what you want you offensive little cretin.


I will. Thanks. :good

[Sweet Science]

You aren´t that peaceful now.

Well that's actually a reference to Ali not me.

[Sweet Science]

I will. Thanks. :good

Don't mention it.

[ron u.k.]

I'm just not blindly patriotic.

I always base my judgements on morals rather than nationalism.
so then how do you equate your obvious love and admiration of the "great diego maradona" and the greatest goal ever against england with his blatant and deliberate cheating for the first goal.where have your morals gone in this instance?

[Manassa]

It's funny you should say that..

Erm then again no it isn't.

Keep practicing mate, don't worry I won't give up on you that easily.

Wasn't trying to be funny actually, more of an observation. I know your kind.

[Sweet Science]

so then how do you equate your obvious love and admiration of the "great diego maradona" and the greatest goal ever against england with his blatant and deliberate cheating for the first goal.where have your morals gone in this instance?

The blatant & deliberate cheating of the 1st goal was there for all to see. It was an injustice yes, but the 2nd goal was a goal of such individual brilliance, wonder and beauty that (for me) it eclipsed every other goal scored in the history of the game.

The 1st goal (Mano De Dios) was lucky and Argentina were fortunate the ref allowed it to stand, in the same way as the ref/linesman allowed Englands controversial against Germany goal in '66.

I like Maradona's hand of god goal because it was ironic that he being the shortest player on the field was able to out jump the towering Shilton and get to the ball before him. Plus the fact that the the goal was 2 fingers up to all the patriotic English and their unfair taking of the Falkland Islands. I respected Maradona for what he achieved that day.

[Sweet Science]

Wasn't trying to be funny actually, more of an observation. I know your kind.


Would you care to expand on that son?

[Manassa]

The fact that the the goal was 2 fingers up to all the patriotic English and their unfair taking of the Falkland Islands.

Crikey, with a counter-attack like that, who will ever mess with the Argentines again? :lol:

[Manassa]

Would you care to expand on that son?

Dickheads :good

[ron u.k.]

The blatant & deliberate cheating of the 1st goal was there for all to see. It was an injustice yes, but the 2nd goal was a goal of such individual brilliance, wonder and beauty that (for me) it eclipsed every other goal scored in the history of the game.

The 1st goal (Mano De Dios) was lucky and Argentina were fortunate the ref allowed it to stand, in the same way as the ref/linesman allowed Englands controversial against Germany goal in '66.

I like Maradona's hand of god goal because it was ironic that he being the shortest player on the field was able to out jump the towering Shilton and get to the ball before him. Plus the fact that the the goal was 2 fingers up to all the patriotic English and their unfair taking of the Falkland Islands. I respected Maradona for what he achieved that day.ah,so now we're getting to the bottom of it..you really do have an axe to grind with the english.

[Sweet Science]

Crikey, with a counter-attack like that, who will ever mess with the Argentines again? :lol:

Well there are probably more Englishmen who would prefer to have been defeated by Argentina in the Falklands conflict than to lose that match in '86.

[Sweet Science]

ah,so now we're getting to the bottom of it..you really do have an axe to grind with the english.

No not at all. I have a problem with racist hooligans (albeit a small minority of English fans). I also have a problem with the foriegn policy of England and the history of it's ammassing of wealth from stealing and invading poorer countries. Having said that I have the same problem with the foriegn policy of the US at the moment. However, that does not make me want the US basketball team lose at the next olympics, as their fans generally know how to behave.

[ThePlugInBabies]

Plus the fact that the the goal was 2 fingers up to all the patriotic English and their unfair taking of the Falkland Islands.

why don't you go and ask the people of the falklands who they would rather be part of.

[Sweet Science]

why don't you go and ask the people of the falklands who they would rather be part of.

Well theres no need as I'm sure you have already conducted and commissioned a MORI approved survey.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Crikey, with a counter-attack like that, who will ever mess with the Argentines again? :lol:


:lol:

[My dinner with Conteh]

No not at all. I have a problem with racist hooligans (albeit a small minority of English fans). I also have a problem with the foriegn policy of England and the history of it's ammassing of wealth from stealing and invading poorer countries. Having said that I have the same problem with the foriegn policy of the US at the moment. However, that does not make me want the US basketball team lose at the next olympics, as their fans generally know how to behave.


English fans 'generally' know how to behave, but you choose to single out the 3% that don't (if it's even that, it's probably less) because you're a fucking cock. Look, just because you have no friends no need to take it out of your 'countrymen'. :yep

[My dinner with Conteh]

so then how do you equate your obvious love and admiration of the "great diego maradona" and the greatest goal ever against england with his blatant and deliberate cheating for the first goal.where have your morals gone in this instance?


Good point. He's a gobshite. Probably gets pissed off that white moves first in chess too.

[ron u.k.]

i think the kid basically just doesn't like the english.he's a pretty simple soul.

[My dinner with Conteh]

i think the kid basically just doesn't like the english.he's a pretty simple soul.


If he does, that's up to him. Which begs the question: why doesn't the cunt move away then? :huh

[My dinner with Conteh]

Well there are probably more Englishmen who would prefer to have been defeated by Argentina in the Falklands conflict than to lose that match in '86.


That's not far off....but still, you think it's good to laugh in their faces, even the ones that have never even thrown a punch at their shadows. You must have had some fucking good hidings in your time I'll bet.

[Sweet Science]

English fans 'generally' know how to behave, but you choose to single out the 3% that don't (if it's even that, it's probably less) because you're a fucking cock. Look, just because you have no friends no need to take it out of your 'countrymen'. :yep

You're the cock. The english have a woeful record when it comes to Hooliganism. Anyone remotely impartial will attest to that fact.

I don't have any friends??? I don't need to make friends online unlike a sad retard like you. I have real friends.

[Sweet Science]

i think the kid basically just doesn't like the english.he's a pretty simple soul.

Actually I'm quite a complex fella.

[Sweet Science]

If he does, that's up to him. Which begs the question: why doesn't the cunt move away then? :huh

Perhaps it's cunts like you that should move away.

[My dinner with Conteh]

You're the cock. The english have a woeful record when it comes to Hooliganism. Anyone remotely impartial will attest to that fact.

I don't have any friends??? I don't need to make friends online unlike a sad retard like you. I have real friends.


Which friends do I have online? You're the guy PMing people.

In answer to your first sentence. Of course, that's true, but it's 30 or 40 people going on a riot, when they only come to tournaments to fight. Most of them haven't got tickets for the games. Are you saying there's no crowd trouble in the Argentine League?

[My dinner with Conteh]

Perhaps it's cunts like you that should move away.


I would if I hated this place. I don't. So what's your excuse?

[ron u.k.]

"i always base my judgements on morals rather than nationalism" when you came out with that pompous,smug, arrogant drivel you basically became discredited.i'd give it up bonny lad your going nowhere with this.

[Sweet Science]

That's not far off....but still, you think it's good to laugh in their faces, even the ones that have never even thrown a punch at their shadows. You must have had some fucking good hidings in your time I'll bet.

Nope, I'm quite vocal about my views. When in the past racists like you have attempted to make their argument with me physical I will duly oblige. I have yet to be given a 'good hiding' by anyone. Perhaps you are offeriing to teach me a lesson. That I would love to see.

[Sweet Science]

Which friends do I have online? You're the guy PMing people.


I don't even know how to PM you prick.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Nope, I'm quite vocal about my views. When in the past racists like you have attempted to make their argument with me physical I will duly oblige. I have yet to be given a 'good hiding' by anyone. Perhaps you are offeriing to teach me a lesson. That I would love to see.


You're the one that's sprouting the racist shit dickhead. And maybe I will teach you a lesson. :good

[Sweet Science]

I would if I hated this place. I don't. So what's your excuse?

I don't hate the place. I only dispise arseholes like you. Fortunately, you are in the minority.

[Sweet Science]

You're the one that's sprouting the racist shit dickhead. And maybe I will teach you a lesson. :good

The only lesson you could teach me is how to best fall on your arse. I've never really needed to master that particular skill.

[My dinner with Conteh]

I don't hate the place. I only dispise arseholes like you. Fortunately, you are in the minority.


What i was an arsehole for questioning your 'favourite ever moment'. Gobshite. Fuck off out the country to your real home (wherever that is).

[Sweet Science]

"i always base my judgements on morals rather than nationalism" when you came out with that pompous,smug, arrogant drivel you basically became discredited.i'd give it up bonny lad your going nowhere with this.

Oh I like a good challenge.

[My dinner with Conteh]

The only lesson you could teach me is how to best fall on your arse. I've never really needed to master that particular skill.


You gonna pretend you've done a bit of boxing now are you? Somehow I doubt it.

[Sweet Science]

Fuck off out the country to your real home (wherever that is).

Oh ok, I'm back off to London.

[Manassa]

I don't even know how to PM you prick.

Actually I'm quite a complex fella.

:oops:

[My dinner with Conteh]

Oh I like a good challenge.


Is this you?



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[Sweet Science]

You gonna pretend you've done a bit of boxing now are you? Somehow I doubt it.

Never done any boxing.

But I have plenty of experience in handing out beatings to over confident racist cunts like you.

[Sweet Science]

Is this you?



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No, thats your daddy.

[My dinner with Conteh]

No, thats your daddy.


Great comeback. :oops:

[Sweet Science]

Great comeback. :oops:

Why thank you. You're very easily impressed.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Never done any boxing.

But I have plenty of experience in handing out beatings to over confident racist cunts like you.


Why were they overconfident?

[My dinner with Conteh]

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[Sweet Science]

Why were they overconfident?

Aren't they always?

You should know.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Why thank you. You're very easily impressed.



Must be all those Richard Pryor tapes you've watched.

[Manassa]

Is this you?



[Only registered and activated users can see links]

That first bloke shit himself :lol:

[Sweet Science]

Must be all those Richard Pryor tapes you've watched.

Hmm yes. You could be right there.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Aren't they always?

You should know.


There's not many black people where I live to be racist with even if I was. The few I know are decent chaps without an agenda and with friends of all colours. But they're probably Uncle Tom's, eh?

[Sweet Science]

There's not many black people where I live to be racist with even if I was. The few I know are decent chaps without an agenda and with friends of all colours. But they're probably Uncle Tom's, eh?

Nope, they sound like decent guys. Unlike you, but then I would imagine it must be difficult for a racist cock like you to display even an ounce of decency.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Nope, they sound like decent guys. Unlike you, but then I would imagine it must be difficult for a racist cock like you to display even an ounce of decency.


I just don't like YOU. You're a tit- in any colour.

[Sweet Science]

I just don't like YOU. You're a tit- in any colour.

:lol: It's funny you should say that because I feel the exact same way about you.

You would be a cock in any pigmentation.

[Manassa]

Cock, tit... I'll be the arse. Now all we need to complete the set is someone to come in and call themselves a fanny.

[My dinner with Conteh]

:lol: It's funny you should say that because I feel the exact same way about you.

You would be a cock in any pigmentation.


Good. I'll enjoy debating with you over the coming months...and generally handing you your 'ass'. :good

[Sweet Science]

Cock, tit... I'll be the arse. Now all we need to complete the set is someone to come in and call themselves a fanny.

Well I wouldn't worry about that as Conteh the cunt has the unique ability to adapt to a variety of roles.

[Sweet Science]

Good. I'll enjoy debating with you over the coming months...and generally handing you your 'ass'. :good

Oh yes of course you will. I mean theres no law against you being delusional is there?

[Manassa]

Well I wouldn't worry about that as Conteh the cunt has the unique ability to adapt to a variety of roles.

Actually, being such a complicated person, I would have thought you'd be able to play a convincing arse, tit, cock or fanny with no trouble at all. One might go as far as to say that you are so talented and effortless that you don't even have to try, and could, if so inclined, become all four at the same time.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Oh yes of course you will. I mean theres no law against you being delusional is there?



Don't worry, you'll likely get some help from the forums' two most deluded Quinquagenarians*: Red Rooster, Street Lethal, Revolver, Megaman & Pepping It. :yep




* That's people in their 50s to you. :good

[Sweet Science]

Actually, being such a complicated person, I would have thought you'd be able to play a convincing arse, tit, cock or fanny with no trouble at all. One might go as far as to say that you are so talented and effortless that you don't even have to try, and could, if so inclined, become all four at the same time.

No, I'm afraid not. Alas, I have never been able to achieve this. However, Conteh and yourself, being the versatile buttock jockeys that you are would have no problem shape shifting/morphing into these various roles without even breaking into a sweat. You have both proven to be grand masters or even Guru's at this.

[Sweet Science]

Don't worry, you'll likely get some help from the forums' two most deluded Quinquagenarians*: Red Rooster, Street Lethal, Revolver, Megaman & Pepping It. :yep




* That's people in their 50s to you. :good


Oh thats not necessary, as kind as their offers may be, I don't need any help in dealing with racist scum like you.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Oh thats not necessary, as kind as their offers may be, I don't need any help in dealing with racist scum like you.


You've been outed as the racist, gobshite. I just figured you were from another country, which you are. :good

[Sweet Science]

You've been outed as the racist, gobshite. I just figured you were from another country, which you are. :good

Nope, you're being a delusional cock again aren't you.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Probably time to pack this up gents.

It's reading kind of ugly.



Yeah, you're right. We'll have to allow the Muslim to have the last word, I suppose. It's a bit like the chess game in Star Wars where C3P0 tells R2 D2 to "Let the wookie win". :yep

[Sweet Science]

You've been outed as the racist, gobshite. I just figured you were from another country, which you are. :good

Your case of verbal diarhoea is becoming very serious. I would suggest you stick to your medication and this does not involve puffing on the herb. Perhaps you should see a doctor, only chances are he would probably be Indian and you wouldn't want to be seen by a foreigner would you? You racist prick.

[Manassa]

Your case of verbal diarhoea is becoming very serious. I would suggest you stick to your medication and this does not involve puffing on the herb. Perhaps you should see a doctor, only chances are he would probably be Indian and you wouldn't want to be seen by a foreigner would you? You racist prick.

Ah, fuck off you minority.

[Sweet Science]

Ah, fuck off you minority.

Great retort. :good You should be proud of that.

[Luigi1985]

"The cleverer give in!"

That´s what teachers and others always said to me... :lol:



... and I was only getting angrier and angrier...

[Manassa]

Great retort. :good You should be proud of that.

I'm proud of being British too, something you aren't.

[Sweet Science]

I'm proud of being British too, something you aren't.

:good Correct, I'm not proud of being British. But then, I wouldn't be proud of being, German, Chinese, Dutch, Iranian, Iraqi, French or any other nationality you would care to mention. This is simply because nationalism and patriotism if of absolutely no importance to me at all.
Its no coincidence that these are often traits which racists like Conteh have in abundance.

To me it matters not one iota where you are from.

[Luigi1985]

Oh, i know that feeling and the most time it resulted in not beeing the cleverer. :D



:yep

Me too!

[Manassa]

:good Correct, I'm not proud of being British. But then, I wouldn't be proud of being, German, Chinese, Dutch, Iranian, Iraqi, French or any other nationality you would care to mention. This is simply because nationalism and patriotism if of absolutely no importance to me at all.
Its no coincidence that these are often traits which racists like Conteh have in abundance.

To me it matters not one iota where you are from.

It is one thing to not be nationalistic and patriotic - it is another thing to actually be against your own country. I don't have anything against any nationality (except most Yanks), but I'm still proud of my country.

Why? Have you done anything to be British? It is an achievement to be British? I never got that "beeing proud of my country" thing.

It's my birthplace. I'm proud to have been born here; I wouldn't live anywhere else. That's enough for me. My country is something that represents me, it's symbolic to me.

[Manassa]

Your country represents you? I don´t agree. You know i´m thinking similar but i would change proud with glad. I can´t be proud of something i have done nothing for.

No - I'm proud to be British. Leave it at that.

[Sweet Science]

It is one thing to not be nationalistic and patriotic - it is another thing to actually be against your own country. I don't have anything against any nationality (except most Yanks), but I'm still proud of my country.

I'm not against my own country. I just happpen to recognise the mistakes of my country.

But as soon as I do this you see me as a traitor or sell out. Was Ali a sell out for saying his country was wrong over Vietnam?


That's enough for me. My country is something that represents me, it's symbolic to me


You mustn't like your country very much then, as you are a cock and Britain symbolises this for you.

If you need a country to define you and make you what you are then you don't have much substance or character in the 1st place. You're just a piece of clay thats been molded in to the silly twat you are today.

[Sweet Science]

Your homecountry is part of your identity and so it defines you in some way, you can´t argue that.

Lets say one of you fellow Germans let it be known that he thought Holland deserved to beat Germany in '74. Would you vilify them, call them an immigrant, traitor and ask them to fuck off out of the country?

This is the sad mentality of Conteh and Manassa.

[Manassa]

I'm not against my own country. I just happpen to recognise the mistakes of my country.

But as soon as I do this you see me as a traitor or sell out. Was Ali a sell out for saying his country was wrong over Vietnam?



You mustn't like your country very much then, as you are a cock and Britain symbolises this for you.

If you need a country to define you and make you what you are then you don't have much substance or character in the 1st place. You're just a piece of clay thats been molded in to the silly twat you are today.

You're such an idiot and you don't even know it.

[Sweet Science]

You're such an idiot and you don't even know it.

I'm relieved you feel that way. It is almost reassuring that a blind patriotic retard like you thinks I'm an idiot.

[Manassa]

I'm relieved you feel that way. It is almost reassuring that a blind patriotic retard like you thinks I'm an idiot.

Can you clarify again why being patriotic - if I'm patriotic - is a bad thing?

[Sweet Science]

Can you clarify again why being patriotic - if I'm patriotic - is a bad thing?

No, because I'm not a psychaitrist, rather, I'm afraid I don't specialise in explaining things to the mentally challenged.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Lets say one of you fellow Germans let it be known that he thought Holland deserved to beat Germany in '74.


So, you're strarting to lie now it seems. What you said is that the England-Argentina game in 1986 was your 'personal favourite', which is the equivalent of a German called the 1988 Euro defeat by Holland his 'personal favourite' (although yours a bit worse as the World Cup is the bigger tournament, of course). I can't imagine too many do, especially as it re-ignited some os the supressed hatred that many of the Dutch held over from the war*. I've always thought Hurst's shot wasn't over the line, but you know that was never the issue. :good





* The streets of Amsterdam were full of people running saying "We've got our bikes back" while holding them in the air.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Can you clarify again why being patriotic - if I'm patriotic - is a bad thing?


Maybe all the Welsh fans should boo Calzaghe when he fights Kessler in November. That would be refreshing. :tired

[Manassa]

No, because I'm not a psychaitrist, rather, I'm afraid I don't specialise in explaining things to the mentally challenged.

No, I'd really like to know why you think being mildly patriotic is a bad thing.

[Sweet Science]

So, you're strarting to lie now it seems. What you said is that the England-Argentina game in 1986 was your 'personal favourite', which is the equivalent of a German called the 1988 Euro defeat by Holland his 'personal favourite' (although a bit worse as the World Cup is the bigger tournament, of course). I can't imagine too many do, especially as it re-ignited some os the supressed hatred that many of the Dutch held over from the war*. I've always thought Hurst's shot wasn't over the line, but you know that was never the issue. :good .

Yes I did say it was my 'personal favourite'. However, my analogy is still a valid one. Either way I am glad England got beat that day in '86 it was the correct result. If you remember, I initially made the comment in reference to the cumupance I felt England deserved in being awarded a goal against Germany in '66.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Yes I did say it was my 'personal favourite'. However, my analogy is still a valid one. Either way I am glad England got beat that day in '86 it was the correct result. If you remember, I initially made the comment in reference to the cumupance I felt England deserved in being awarded a goal against Germany in '66.


Your quesion to Tobkhan was based on him not being patriotic if he said Holland deserved to win a game against Germany...I think I still have the 1986 game on tape by the way- and Argentina played by far the best. Again, that's not the issue.

[Sweet Science]

No, I'd really like to know why you think being mildly patriotic is a bad thing.

OK if you insist. People are indoctrinated with the ideas of patriotism for one reason because it serves the interests of the wealthy upper class and corrupt leaders. They are not concerned at all about their country, nor any country in particular, they are above the law and above borders. The only thing they serve, honour and respect is wealth. Their greed and selfishness are their virues while they cultivate indifference and passivity among their slaves (you being one of them). George Bush for example thinks he has a herd of 300 million American sheep.

[My dinner with Conteh]

OK if you insist. People are indoctrinated with the ideas of patriotism for one reason because it serves the interests of the wealthy upper class and corrupt leaders. They are not concerned at all about their country, nor any country in particular, they are above the law and above borders. The only thing they serve, honour and respect is wealth. Their greed and selfishness are their virues while they cultivate indifference and passivity among their slaves (you being one of them). George Bush for example thinks he has a herd of 300 million American sheep.


Yet you want the all-star US basktball team to win at the Olympics, apparently. Make your mind up. :huh

[Sweet Science]

Your quesion to Tobkhan was based on him not being patriotic if he said Holland deserved to win a game against Germany...I think I still have the 1986 game on tape by the way- and Argentina played by far the best. Again, that's not the issue.

What exactly is the issue then?

Other than you being offended by my support of Argentina and my joy at seeing them win.

Why did this make you so angry and resort to using racist statements?

[ThePlugInBabies]

OK if you insist. People are indoctrinated with the ideas of patriotism for one reason because it serves the interests of the wealthy upper class and corrupt leaders. They are not concerned at all about their country, nor any country in particular, they are above the law and above borders. The only thing they serve, honour and respect is wealth. Their greed and selfishness are their virues while they cultivate indifference and passivity among their slaves (you being one of them). George Bush for example thinks he has a herd of 300 million American sheep.

you know, if you replaced the word patriotism with the word religion, a lot of that would still make perfect sense.

[Sweet Science]

Yet you want the all-star US basktball team to win at the Olympics, apparently. Make your mind up. :huh

The US basketball team do not have a significant number of racist drunken fans that bring shame to their country.

[Sweet Science]

you know, if you replaced the word patriotism with the word religion, a lot of that would still make perfect sense.

To a certain extent you are correct.

[My dinner with Conteh]

What exactly is the issue then?

Other than you being offended by my support of Argentina and my joy at seeing them win.

Why did this make you so angry and resort to using racist statements?


I wasn't angry. I just figured your views were similar to the 'minority' of immigrants who come here and hate the place. How old are you by the way?

[ron u.k.]

OK if you insist. People are indoctrinated with the ideas of patriotism for one reason because it serves the interests of the wealthy upper class and corrupt leaders. They are not concerned at all about their country, nor any country in particular, they are above the law and above borders. The only thing they serve, honour and respect is wealth. Their greed and selfishness are their virues while they cultivate indifference and passivity among their slaves (you being one of them). George Bush for example thinks he has a herd of 300 million American sheep.and so ends a party political broadcast from the right honourable osama bin laden.

[Manassa]

OK if you insist. People are indoctrinated with the ideas of patriotism for one reason because it serves the interests of the wealthy upper class and corrupt leaders. They are not concerned at all about their country, nor any country in particular, they are above the law and above borders. The only thing they serve, honour and respect is wealth. Their greed and selfishness are their virues while they cultivate indifference and passivity among their slaves (you being one of them). George Bush for example thinks he has a herd of 300 million American sheep.

What? :lol:

[My dinner with Conteh]

...and, for the record, I usually find people that mix politics and sport mind-numbingly boring. *




* I mean the fans here, not the participants.

[My dinner with Conteh]

The US basketball team do not have a significant number of racist drunken fans that bring shame to their country.


So, again, because of the minority you hate the England football team. My two best mates support Liverpool. Shall I hate them because of the Heysel disaster?

[Sweet Science]

What? :lol:

Like I said I'm not a psychiatrist. Explaining things to the mentally challenged is not my forte.

[Manassa]

Like I said I'm not a psychiatrist. Explaining things to the mentally challenged is not my forte.

Oh, I understand what you're saying. But what you're saying happens to be a load of bollocks.

[Sweet Science]

Oh, I understand what you're saying. But what you're saying happens to be a load of bollocks.

Fair enough thats your opinion.

[Sweet Science]

So, again, because of the minority you hate the England football team. My two best mates support Liverpool. Shall I hate them because of the Heysel disaster?

No, I don't hate the England football team, I just don't happen to support them.

[Sweet Science]

and so ends a party political broadcast from the right honourable osama bin laden.
:lol:

Osama would have ended with his obligatory "Death to America!"

[My dinner with Conteh]

No, I don't hate the England football team, I just don't happen to support them.


Again, there's nothing wrong with that. But there is something dumb with mocking people who are so 'misguided' that they actually support their country.

[Sweet Science]

Again, there's nothing wrong with that. But there is something dumb with mocking people who are so 'misguided' that they actually support their country.

What I find dumb are people who make overtly racist and xenophobic comments.

[My dinner with Conteh]

What I find dumb are people who make overtly racist and xenophobic comments.



Dear oh dear what a boring man.

[Sweet Science]

I wasn't angry. I just figured your views were similar to the 'minority' of immigrants who come here and hate the place. How old are you by the way?

29 and no I wasn't born when England played Germany '66 and yes I was only 8 years old when Argentina beat England in '86.

[Sweet Science]

Dear oh dear what a boring man.

A lot of people find the truth boring.

There is no denying what you said.

[ron u.k.]

did you say that was your age or your IQ ?

[Sweet Science]

did you say that was your age or your IQ ?

It was the number of times I said no to your mum.

[My dinner with Conteh]

A lot of people find the truth boring.

There is no denying what you said.



No, a lot of people find YOU boring. That's obviously what you've encountered most of your life. It's hard to shake off, never mind. Good luck with trying in the future. I see you only seem to be posting exclusively in this thread too. What a crashing bore. :good

[ron u.k.]

It was the number of times I said no to your mum.said like a good muslim

[My dinner with Conteh]

It was the number of times I said no to your mum.


Ha ha. Wow. I'm astounded by the hilarity.

[Sweet Science]

said like a good muslim

Well if you make silly comments I am forced to reply in kind.

[Manassa]

It was the number of times I said no to your mum.

If you had any credibility left (unlikely), this comment just bazookered it into no man's land :lol:

[Sweet Science]

Ha ha. Wow. I'm astounded by the hilarity.

Well you've obviously led a very sheltered life. That was barley funny at all, I'll have to lend you one of my Richard Pryor tapes.

[Sweet Science]

If you had any credibility left (unlikely), this comment just bazookered it into no man's land :lol:


Oh yes and Ron UK's stock has just rocketed with his "is that your age or your IQ" comment. Like I said I reply in kind.

[My dinner with Conteh]

If you had any credibility left (unlikely), this comment just bazookered it into no man's land :lol:


No Man's Land? What are you saying? Are you now laughing at our poor soldiers that fell during the Great War?



Sorry, just doing a quite parody of someone. :good

[ron u.k.]

Well if you make silly comments I am forced to reply in kind.those lines are thrown around on here willy nilly mainly by the ignorant.i basically wish you were here in my company at this particular moment in time

[My dinner with Conteh]

I'll have to lend you one of my Richard Pryor tapes.


Was he the bloke out The Good Life? :huh

[Sweet Science]

those lines are thrown around on here willy nilly mainly by the ignorant.i basically wish you were here in my company at this particular moment in time

Well yes that would be interesting seeing what you would look like begging for me to stop hitting you.

[ron u.k.]

Well yes that would be interesting seeing what you would look like begging for me to stop hitting you.i think i was a tad generous with your IQ rating.it's going down by the post.

[Manassa]

No Man's Land? What are you saying? Are you now laughing at our poor soldiers that fell during the Great War?



Sorry, just doing a quite parody of someone. :good

Thought you were serious at first :yep

[ron u.k.]

Well yes that would be interesting seeing what you would look like begging for me to stop hitting you.well we've had the mighty rocky marciano now we've got the mighty rocky marshmallow:bbb

[My dinner with Conteh]

well we've had the mighty rocky marciano now we've got the mighty rocky marshmallow:bbb




More like Amir Khan't.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Right, I have to go home now. Back later...I've a feeling Stokely Carmichael will have an ally in Street Lethal later because he's obviously dying for the thread to go on and on. :good

[ChrisPontius]

Great comeback. :oops:


:lol::lol::lol:

It's always a great laughter when a muslim starts talking about living to high moral standards, to serve the Great Almighty Allah.....


..... and then 5 minutes later comes with lines as "you should be shot", "more often than i did your mum", "like i did your dad".

[ron u.k.]

time to go...i think we've seen the muslim marshmallow off....OWNED:hi:

[ChrisPontius]

And it is. I used to have a girlfriend who was quite a religious christian to the point that she was not allowed to have anyone who gets paid to do anything for her on sundays. I told her to fuck off when she asked me to get cigarretes for her on a sunday. The no sex before marriage thing went out of the window pretty quickly, too.

I don't have anything against religious people, just that a lot of people are fucking hypocrites about their perceived "high moral standards". And that includes Sweet Science.


On the other hand, can't really blame him. Allah was a homosexual pedophile after all. And i'm not trying to insult him or Muslims here, this is actually literally in the Holy Ko'ran, Allah doing his deed with 9 year old boys.

[Sweet Science]

i think i was a tad generous with your IQ rating.it's going down by the post.

Really please explain?

[Sweet Science]

well we've had the mighty rocky marciano now we've got the mighty rocky marshmallow:bbb

Hmm, strange comment.

Does that make you the mighty prick?

[Sweet Science]

Right, I have to go home now. Back later...I've a feeling Stokely Carmichael will have an ally in Street Lethal later because he's obviously dying for the thread to go on and on. :good

Nope I'm bored getting too. I'm just humouring you.

[Sweet Science]

time to go...i think we've seen the muslim marshmallow off....OWNED:hi:

Afraid not cunty bollocks.

You own me?:lol:

[Sweet Science]

And it is. I used to have a girlfriend who was quite a religious christian to the point that she was not allowed to have anyone who gets paid to do anything for her on sundays. I told her to fuck off when she asked me to get cigarretes for her on a sunday. The no sex before marriage thing went out of the window pretty quickly, too.

I don't have anything against religious people, just that a lot of people are fucking hypocrites about their perceived "high moral standards". And that includes Sweet Science.


On the other hand, can't really blame him. Allah was a homosexual pedophile after all. And i'm not trying to insult him or Muslims here, this is actually literally in the Holy Ko'ran, Allah doing his deed with 9 year old boys.

Your ignorance and stupidity has no bounds.

Aww, did a muslim steal your girlfriend?

[Nemesis]

So lets get this straight...

I am a racist (first time i have ever been called that :patsch )

as is MDWC

Ron is a cunty bollock (?)

Chris Pontius has boundless levels of stupidy and ignorance

Manassa is a dickhead

have i missed anyone out

[Sweet Science]

So lets get this straight...

I am a racist (first time i have ever been called that :patsch )

as is MDWC

Ron is a cunty bollock (?)

Chris Pontius has boundless levels of stupidy and ignorance

Manassa is a dickhead

have i missed anyone out

Nope thats about it so far.:good

I shall of course let you know if there are any additions to the list of shame.

Manassa (dickhead) I will of course PM you updates.

[Manassa]

Ron is a cunty bollock (?)


That was the best of the lot :lol:

[Luigi1985]

So lets get this straight...

I am a racist (first time i have ever been called that :patsch )

as is MDWC

Ron is a cunty bollock (?)

Chris Pontius has boundless levels of stupidy and ignorance

Manassa is a dickhead

have i missed anyone out


But MDWC seems really racist to me, look at his nickname...



:lol:

[buddynabuick]

One of the greatest single-season performances in boxing history, IMO. If you understand exactly what he had to do and the rigorous schedule he had to endure, you would agree. Ali fought 5 times in this year, and had to go into hostile territory every-single time. BTW, that little transistor radio was bigger than Arrans tvlol

First he fights George Chuvalo in March, and he fights it on Canadian soil, where everyone will be pulling for Chuvalo. Not only that, but Ali only had 17 days to train! Despite that, Ali comes in in decent shape and puts on a boxing clinic, losing only one or two rounds and winning at least twelve of the fifteen. Then in May, he has a rematch with Henry Cooper, who decked him three years ago. Again, he fights him on his native soild of Britain, where Muhammad's only cheering section are his seconds. He comes in fantastic shape and demontrates how excellent he is in rematches, by completely neutralizing Cooper's left hook and doing more on the inside. He then ends the fight in the sixth, by cuttting up and wobbling the challenger, prompting a stoppage. August 6, and he's back in the ring against Brian London. Again, he only has about three weeks to train, and his opponent has home field advantage, but he still manages to destroy his challenger with relative ease. Six weeks later and it's off to Germany to face 3rd ranked Karl Mildenberger. Ali whips himself into phenominal shape, and has to find it in him to overcome a crowd booing against him. He also was brave enough to take on a southpaw, as many other champions in the past never wanted anypart of southpaws, as they are hard to fight because of their awkwardness. However, Ali still comes throught in the clutch. Then he comes back to the U.S. and fights Houston's Cleveland Willams, in Houston, Texas. In this last fight of the year, Ali puts on possibly the greatest performance by a pugilist of all-time, All the while hearing a crowd of boos.

For Ali to schedule fights at that pace and to travel to different countries fighting in hostile territory, each and every single time is remarkable to say the least. Five title fights in one year is an amazing feat. Truly 1966 was the year of Muhammad Ali!:good

i was 15 at the time and had been following boxing for a couple years. i listened to most of those fights on my little transistor radio. Good post, which brings back a lot of fond memories. BTW, that little transistor radio was bigger than Arrans tvlol. That was for you Icemann

[ron u.k.]

my word,i'd forgotten this was a thread about ali.

[Sweet Science]

One of the greatest single-season performances in boxing history, IMO. If you understand exactly what he had to do and the rigorous schedule he had to endure, you would agree. Ali fought 5 times in this year, and had to go into hostile territory every-single time.

First he fights George Chuvalo in March, and he fights it on Canadian soil, where everyone will be pulling for Chuvalo. Not only that, but Ali only had 17 days to train! Despite that, Ali comes in in decent shape and puts on a boxing clinic, losing only one or two rounds and winning at least twelve of the fifteen. Then in May, he has a rematch with Henry Cooper, who decked him three years ago. Again, he fights him on his native soild of Britain, where Muhammad's only cheering section are his seconds. He comes in fantastic shape and demontrates how excellent he is in rematches, by completely neutralizing Cooper's left hook and doing more on the inside. He then ends the fight in the sixth, by cuttting up and wobbling the challenger, prompting a stoppage. August 6, and he's back in the ring against Brian London. Again, he only has about three weeks to train, and his opponent has home field advantage, but he still manages to destroy his challenger with relative ease. Six weeks later and it's off to Germany to face 3rd ranked Karl Mildenberger. Ali whips himself into phenominal shape, and has to find it in him to overcome a crowd booing against him. He also was brave enough to take on a southpaw, as many other champions in the past never wanted anypart of southpaws, as they are hard to fight because of their awkwardness. However, Ali still comes throught in the clutch. Then he comes back to the U.S. and fights Houston's Cleveland Willams, in Houston, Texas. In this last fight of the year, Ali puts on possibly the greatest performance by a pugilist of all-time, All the while hearing a crowd of boos.

For Ali to schedule fights at that pace and to travel to different countries fighting in hostile territory, each and every single time is remarkable to say the least. Five title fights in one year is an amazing feat. Truly 1966 was the year of Muhammad Ali!:good

Yes '66 was one hell of an impressive year for Ali. I hadn't really thought about how much travelling he had done in that single year and the hostile territory factor.

[My dinner with Conteh]

So lets get this straight...

I am a racist (first time i have ever been called that :patsch )

as is MDWC

Ron is a cunty bollock (?)

Chris Pontius has boundless levels of stupidy and ignorance

Manassa is a dickhead

have i missed anyone out


It's Ramadan..the fucker's starving so he's taking it out on everyone. Either that or he's secretly eaten a bacon butty and feels guilty. :D



ps. Great years: Henry Armstrong. 1938. 14 fights, undefeated, two world titles. :bbb

[C. M. Clay II]

Finally this thread is out of the hands of the hijackers.:bbb

[Nemesis]

Finally this thread is out of the hands of the hijackers.:bbb

256 posts later :D

[janitor]

One of the greatest single-season performances in boxing history, IMO. If you understand exactly what he had to do and the rigorous schedule he had to endure, you would agree. Ali fought 5 times in this year, and had to go into hostile territory every-single time.

First he fights George Chuvalo in March, and he fights it on Canadian soil, where everyone will be pulling for Chuvalo. Not only that, but Ali only had 17 days to train! Despite that, Ali comes in in decent shape and puts on a boxing clinic, losing only one or two rounds and winning at least twelve of the fifteen. Then in May, he has a rematch with Henry Cooper, who decked him three years ago. Again, he fights him on his native soild of Britain, where Muhammad's only cheering section are his seconds. He comes in fantastic shape and demontrates how excellent he is in rematches, by completely neutralizing Cooper's left hook and doing more on the inside. He then ends the fight in the sixth, by cuttting up and wobbling the challenger, prompting a stoppage. August 6, and he's back in the ring against Brian London. Again, he only has about three weeks to train, and his opponent has home field advantage, but he still manages to destroy his challenger with relative ease. Six weeks later and it's off to Germany to face 3rd ranked Karl Mildenberger. Ali whips himself into phenominal shape, and has to find it in him to overcome a crowd booing against him. He also was brave enough to take on a southpaw, as many other champions in the past never wanted anypart of southpaws, as they are hard to fight because of their awkwardness. However, Ali still comes throught in the clutch. Then he comes back to the U.S. and fights Houston's Cleveland Willams, in Houston, Texas. In this last fight of the year, Ali puts on possibly the greatest performance by a pugilist of all-time, All the while hearing a crowd of boos.

For Ali to schedule fights at that pace and to travel to different countries fighting in hostile territory, each and every single time is remarkable to say the least. Five title fights in one year is an amazing feat. Truly 1966 was the year of Muhammad Ali!:good

It was a remarkable run.

Like with Joe Louis in the so called bum of the month phase he had a B grade division but did everything he could with it. People are often too slow to give credit to champions who raise the bar in terms of frequency and quality of title defences.

[C. M. Clay II]

It was a remarkable run.

Like with Joe Louis in the so called bum of the month phase he had a B grade division but did everything he could with it.

I agree.:good

[RoccoMarciano]

Larry holmes KO 11 Peak ali

I think that is a possibility. I don't know that Ali would have ever had an easy time against Holmes - prime vs prime of course.

[McGrain]

ps. Great years: Henry Armstrong. 1938. 14 fights, undefeated, two world titles. :bbb

Yeah.

[Jack]

Ali was good.


























































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