Andrade-Mack

[IntentionalButt]

Wow, I missed this memo. Along with the transplanted Bojado-Forbes fight, this makes the Barrera-Pacquiao card very attractive.

[Amsterdam]

Andrade KO 2. Good fight for him against a minor name TV fighter in Mack.

[Amsterdam]

Andrade needs to learn how to fucking box. He could still be very good, he has great power and the best chin in bxoing right now bar none

He's better than given credit for. He pressures well, uses his reach well and has endless stamina to go along with an unbreakable chin. A lot of guys will simply fold to this and get KOed.

[Axe]

Andrade needs to learn how to fucking box. He could still be very good, he has great power and the best chin in bxoing right now bar none

No kidding, but it appears he's a lost cause, he lost about 90% of his amateur fights, showing a complete inability to adapt or learn, and still only plods forward throwing one punch at a time.

[WhataRock]

Andrade has done so well in the pros doing what he does best. Just hunting guys down.

I dont think he can learn much now but a decent jab and some better tactics, even simple ones, could definitely help.

[Harry]

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I don't doubt it, Bumdrade doesn't look like he ever learnt how to box, just interested to see what his amateur career is like.

kessler make hes opponents look like bums you will see the 3 nov :yep . angry litle boy:roll:.

[sean]

good crossroads fight.

mack fell apart from the power of berrio and andrade is definatley in the berrio catergory.

mack cannot make a mistake all night.

mack is quite talented though so it is possible he will be able to stay away all fight.

i still go wity andrade to catch him and finish him at some point though for an andrade win.

good matchmaking though.

[IntentionalButt]

I like Librado by late stoppage.

[jopez707]

Andrade was made to look foolish against Kessler, but Kessler impressed me very much that fight. Still depiste losing maybe every round (i think I gave him one round), he kept constant pressure on Kessler and did land some good punches, but then Kessler would fire back rapid combinations swinging the round back in his favor (Kessler).

[DanePugilist]

Andrade deserves my deepest respect... I wish him all the best... Go-go Andrade..

[bigeddie27]

i like andrade great chin and resolve. he needs to work on his speed and timing so he can trade at the right moments. I doubt his defense can get any better at this point. he knows he aint going down so he can eat that shot from his oppenet. might as well use that advantage the most he can by taking that shot flush, but punching his oppenent at that vulnerable moment.

[IntentionalButt]

i like andrade great chin and resolve. he needs to work on his speed and timing so he can trade at the right moments. I doubt his defense can get any better at this point. he knows he aint going down so he can eat that shot from his oppenet. might as well use that advantage the most he can by taking that shot flush, but punching his oppenent at that vulnerable moment.

Anyone can always improve their head movement.

[DanePugilist]

Anyone can always improve their head movement.I don't know, if it's the kind of head movement you had in mind, but his head movement saved his ass from going down on dozen occations vs Kessler, diminishing or nullifying Kesslers power.

[IntentionalButt]

I don't know, if it's the kind of head movement you had in mind, but his head movement saved his ass from going down on dozen occations vs Kessler, diminishing or nullifying Kesslers power.

I should amend that to head and upper body movement. He could have been hit a lot less (maybe...Kessler was a cyborg that night)

[Amsterdam]

They underrate him from the Kessler loss. They assume that because Kessler did not fold to the constant pressure that jokes like Jermain Taylor would not either. They also assume that he cannot get his power punches in, because they miss that Kessler displayed a top of the line defence and counter punching ability.

I'd take Andrade over Bute for example, Bute would fold.

[IntentionalButt]

They underrate him from the Kessler loss. They assume that because Kessler did not fold to the constant pressure that jokes like Jermain Taylor would not either. They also assume that he cannot get his power punches in, because they miss that Kessler displayed a top of the line defence and counter punching ability.

I'd take Andrade over Bute for example, Bute would fold.

And he'll make origami out of Mack. :good

[Amsterdam]

And he'll make origami out of Mack. :good

Yes and early. He's also not slow and he never tires.

He's not fast, but he's not a turtle, Kessler is very fast for his style.

[bigeddie27]

Anyone can always improve their head movement.

no doubt intentionalbutt, i am pretty much saying if he works on that it might distract him on what he really needs to do which is land something clean even if he takes 3. He could work on it but if he starts thinking defense more and offense less, that could cost him a fight. His chin is an assett, he needs to capitalize on it. Even though it is dangerous to his health and I would prefer he did not choose that style, he could win one with it.

[DanePugilist]

I should amend that to head and upper body movement. He could have been hit a lot less (maybe...Kessler was a cyborg that night)Yeah, you could be right there. However, Andrade does throw alot, while moving forward.

Offence seems to be his key pivoting point, so I think thats why he gets tagged more, by an accurate counter-puncher like ie Kessler. Having said that, he does fight very unorthodoxly to me; at times he seems a bit stiff, while in others he shows alot of body movement. In both patterns he is moving forward, putting pressure...

Kessler did fight good that night; to me it was the pinnacle of him thus far.

[Axe]

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I don't doubt it, Bumdrade doesn't look like he ever learnt how to box, just interested to see what his amateur career is like.

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"Before making his pro debut at the Los Alamitos racetrack -- more known for quarter horses than fighters -- Andrade had 16 amateur fights, of which he lost 14."

[DanePugilist]

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"Before making his pro debut at the Los Alamitos racetrack -- more known for quarter horses than fighters -- Andrade had 16 amateur fights, of which he lost 14."Doesn't really matter much - since he is kicking ass, as a pro.

[boxfan99]

Doesn't really matter much - since he is kicking ass, as a pro.

But it does tell you something useful about the guy in my opinion.;) For instance it was mainly after I heard about Oganovs amateur record that I knew he was nothing special despite his impressing looking pro rec. That combined with seeing him getting a boxing lesson in the first round against Richard Grant.

[DanePugilist]

But it does tell you something useful about the guy in my opinion.;) For instance it was mainly after I heard about Oganovs amateur record that I knew he was nothing special despite his impressing looking pro rec. That combined with seeing him getting a boxing lesson in the first round against Richard Grant.:lol: - some guys come into the sport very late, and learn the trade through hard work - others by being lifted upon shoulders - others again through talent.

Personally I am glad I placed vcash on a Oganov loss, as well as in the prediction thread.