View Full Version : If Munroe fought the Thai last night
colinthfc
09-27-2009, 05:21 AM
How would have he done?
deebest
09-27-2009, 05:34 AM
The fact is Potswoon what ever his name is, is a just class above Dunne and Munroe , It would have been a similar result.
Irishrover91
09-27-2009, 06:07 AM
Exact the same, munroe in my view not better than Dunne or in some people they are on the same level but id would say again an early KO
Beeston Brawler
09-27-2009, 06:13 AM
It's too early to say.
Munroe has a better chin, and also his the ability to cover up better than Dunne. He would also have a size and reach advantage over the Thai man.
Let's see how he fares against Maludrottu first - I think he will win that one on points.
Will most likely be Nishioka after that.....
PatrickP
09-27-2009, 07:11 AM
Munroe would get knocked out. Dunne would still beat Munroe btw, Dunne's weakness is a big puncher which the binman aint.
GladiatoR
09-27-2009, 07:24 AM
You guys really think Dunne would beat Munroe?
neil hibbert
09-27-2009, 07:26 AM
dunne never beats munroe!!!!!
leighton
09-27-2009, 07:41 AM
Munroe has yet to be tested by the top class fighters yet. I think Dunne would have a little bit more than Munroe but those are opinions. We will never see the fight happening it would make both fighters a bit of money if it did happen but I dont think Munroe would be able to enough people to watch him fight Dunne in the UK compared to what Dunne would get in the o2.
GladiatoR
09-27-2009, 07:45 AM
Come on, Dunne was blown away by Martinez in 1 round.
SouthpawSlayer
09-27-2009, 07:48 AM
loss on points id say, the thai would be too busy and his shots would have more of an effect than munroes would on him, it would be a closer fight than last night due to styles and punch resistance but the thai would win imo, possbly 116 112 region
PatrickP
09-27-2009, 07:51 AM
You guys really think Dunne would beat Munroe?
Dunne has more skills, Dunne has more power, Munroe has no power, so yes Dunne beats Munroe.
Let's have a bit of perspective here, Dunne just lost to one of the best at the weight. Munroe is not even near Poonsawats level so let's not get carried away now thinking Munroe would beat Dunne. Styles make fights and Poonsawat's style was all wrong for Dunne.
icemax
09-27-2009, 07:53 AM
loss on points id say, the thai would be too busy and his shots would have more of an effect than munroes would on him, it would be a closer fight than last night due to styles and punch resistance but the thai would win imo, possbly 116 112 region
This is fair ^^^
micky
09-27-2009, 08:00 AM
I think you have to give Munroe a chance against Poon, Bernard was always going to have some problems if the power was there for the visitor as we thought it might be.
However, Munroe's chin is decent and he can execute a plan ala Martinez in fight 1, so you cannot rule him out.
Lest we forget Sidorenko outboxed this guy, yes it was closer than the cards but he won it well never the less.
Munroe would have a chance and to be fair a big chance especially with home advantage, he would be a lot bigger that Poon on the night, he has fast hands, he moves well and as with Martinez he will know this guy wants to take his head off and won't wait around for it.
I know Martinez is not on Poon's level before you all jump on that one but styles make fights and Munroe could just be all wrong for Poon.
:thumbsup
Dunne is a good fighter but blimey he is well overrated. Styles make fights but there is no way Munroe would get sparked out like that. Munroe actually has a quality chin whereas Dunne doesnt. To be truely world class you need a top chin. Need I say more. Dunne was smashed to pieces by Martinez where Munroe fought him twice and didnt go down once in 24 rounds?? Nedd I say anymore.
Bonavena25
09-27-2009, 08:09 AM
Styles make fights that's true but you can't get away from the fact that Martinez destroyed Dunne and Munroe twiced proved far too strong for Martinez. How anyone can say Dunne would beat Munroe is puzzling.
Munroe would just pressure him and pressure him and either stop him late or win on points.
GladiatoR
09-27-2009, 08:10 AM
Dunne has more skills, Dunne has more power, Munroe has no power, so yes Dunne beats Munroe.
Let's have a bit of perspective here, Dunne just lost to one of the best at the weight. Munroe is not even near Poonsawats level so let's not get carried away now thinking Munroe would beat Dunne. Styles make fights and Poonsawat's style was all wrong for Dunne.
Who cares how much power Dunne has when he's got a chin like that? Munroe can take a shot, he doesn't need a lot of power to drop Dunne.
Dunne also lost to Martinez in one round. Martinez is European level at best and was beat twice by Munroe.
Styles make fights that's true but you can't get away from the fact that Martinez destroyed Dunne and Munroe twiced proved far too strong for Martinez. How anyone can say Dunne would beat Munroe is puzzling.
Munroe would just pressure him and pressure him and either stop him late or win on points.
Exactly!
PatrickP
09-27-2009, 08:17 AM
Styles make fights that's true but you can't get away from the fact that Martinez destroyed Dunne and Munroe twiced proved far too strong for Martinez. How anyone can say Dunne would beat Munroe is puzzling.
Munroe would just pressure him and pressure him and either stop him late or win on points.
Munroe does not have the power to trouble Dunne, what is so hard to understand about that. Munroe wouldn't be able to back Dunne onto the ropes and lean on him, which is essentially all he does, cos Dunne has too much skill for him. Jesus, Dunne lost to a world class big punching guy with an amazing ko rate, Munroe is European level and has no power. It's not the same thing at all :patsch
GladiatoR
09-27-2009, 08:23 AM
Munroe does not have the power to trouble Dunne, what is so hard to understand about that. Munroe wouldn't be able to back Dunne onto the ropes and lean on him, which is essentially all he does, cos Dunne has too much skill for him. Jesus, Dunne lost to a world class big punching guy with an amazing ko rate, Munroe is European level and has no power. It's not the same thing at all :patsch
You don't need world class power when your jaw is made of paper. Even against Cordoba he was dropped twice.
Lets face it, who's Cordoba? He's hardly a top fighter in the division and when Dunne did fight a top fighter, who was destroyed in 3.
Can't believe that you're still trying to hype Dunne, even after he got his ass handed to him.
Martinez beat Dunne and Martinez is European level.
PatrickP
09-27-2009, 08:37 AM
You don't need world class power when your jaw is made of paper. Even against Cordoba he was dropped twice.
Lets face it, who's Cordoba? He's hardly a top fighter in the division and when Dunne did fight a top fighter, who was destroyed in 3.
Can't believe that you're still trying to hype Dunne, even after he got his ass handed to him.
Martinez beat Dunne and Martinez is European level.
I'm not hyping Dunne, I'm teling you that just because Dunne was ko'd by one of the best in the divison does not mean the featherfisted binman would beat him.
Steve Molitor was ko'd by Caballero, would Munroe beat Molitor? No he wouldn't.
Dunne may have poor punch resistence but Munroe just does not have the power to capitalise on that. I know it's real easy for all you Munroe fans to jump on Dunne's loss and predict a win for Munroe if they ever fought. The fact of the matter is Dunne was a world champ and became so by beating a prime world class operator, he stepped up to fight another world class boxer who unfortunately had too much power for him. Munroe on the other hand has been fed Euro and Afro bums for the past year and a half and has looked less than spectacular in victory. Let's see how binman get's on at world level before we start making any comparisons.
Jamie369
09-27-2009, 09:05 AM
Haha hilarious the way PatrickP keeps ignoring the point about Martinez.:lol:
Jacko
09-27-2009, 09:05 AM
Would probably favour Poon.
Munroe could out box him a bit from distance for awile but eventually Poon would close the gap and start pounding on Munroe inside. Munroe isn't to bad up close but i would have to favour the litler guy up close to get the upper hand.
Also Monroe might let Poon in close and start trading with him as Monroe does have a tendancy to do this.
It would be close as Monroe is a decent fighter and as shown against Martinez he does raise his game for the big fights but i think Poon would win a close but decisive fight or even late round stoppage.
As for Dunne v Monroe im not to sure who wins that one. Ok, Dunnes chin is shaky, but, Monroe isn't a big puncher and styles make fights and i can't remember Monroe fighting anyone even remotely as slick and quick as Dunne.
If Monroe beats Maladrutto (which won't be easy) and can't land a title fight then i think a Dunne fight would be the best bet for him.
Jacko
09-27-2009, 09:11 AM
Haha hilarious the way PatrickP keeps ignoring the point about Martinez.:lol:
In fairness to Dunne i think if he was to fight Martinez again he could actually beat him if he uses his brain.
Dunne got carried away in their fight when he landed a decent shot and waded in like a fool and got caught by a big puncher.
If they were to fight again i think Dunne would be on his back foot countering the incredibly slow and predictable Martinez all night long for a wide UD.
Now im not saying Dunne is better than Monroe or vice versa. Just trying to say that the Martinez beat Dunne, Monroe beat Martinez so Monroe would beat Dunne argument isn't a very good one.
icemax
09-27-2009, 09:14 AM
Haha hilarious the way PatrickP keeps ignoring the point about Martinez.:lol:
Martinez is definately the elephant in the room :thumbsup
Jacko
09-27-2009, 09:15 AM
Speaking of Martinez, he got beat the other night in South Africa by Takalani Ndlovu. Did anyone see it by any chance? Would like to know if Martinez had tried to make any improvements to his game.
icemax
09-27-2009, 09:16 AM
Just trying to say that the Martinez beat Dunne, Monroe beat Martinez so Monroe would beat Dunne argument isn't a very good one.
Thats not really the argument people are using...Patrick is saying that Dunne would beat Munroe because Bernard has mixed it at world level and Ren hasn't whilst neglecting to mention the Martinez fiasco
Jamie369
09-27-2009, 09:17 AM
Now im not saying Dunne is better than Monroe or vice versa. Just trying to say that the Martinez beat Dunne, Monroe beat Martinez so Monroe would beat Dunne argument isn't a very good one.
Of course not,and that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying it must be taken into account,considering the vastly different fortunes of Dunne and Munroe against Martinez.
PatrickP
09-27-2009, 09:18 AM
Haha hilarious the way PatrickP keeps ignoring the point about Martinez.:lol:
Laugh it up chuckles, I have addressed the Martinez point numerous times before. Styles make fights, Munroe beat Martinez, Martinez beat Dunne, that dosen't mean Munroe would beat Dunne.
Here's an example for you, Dunne beat Cordoba, Cordoba beat Caballero, now would Dunne beat Caballero? Using your comparison he would.
Jamie369
09-27-2009, 09:19 AM
Read my last post. That's obviously not what I'm saying,but I don't see how you can ignore the Martinez fights when comparing the two fighters.
Jacko
09-27-2009, 09:24 AM
Thats not really the argument people are using...Patrick is saying that Dunne would beat Munroe because Bernard has mixed it at world level and Ren hasn't whilst neglecting to mention the Martinez fiasco
Ah right. Maybe i should read all the posts first before wading in with my ill-informed opinions.
I think i shall disgracefully bow out of this discussion then.
Jacko
09-27-2009, 09:26 AM
Of course not,and that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying it must be taken into account,considering the vastly different fortunes of Dunne and Munroe against Martinez.
Yeah, sorry mate. I didn't read all the posts and i got the wrong end of the stick. Icemax put me straight.
PatrickP
09-27-2009, 09:27 AM
Read my last post. That's obviously not what I'm saying,but I don't see how you can ignore the Martinez fights when comparing the two fighters.
OK I will put this as simple as I can. Dunne struggles with big punchers like Martinez, Dunne does not struggle with light hitting boxers with less skill and speed than him like Munroe. Ergo, Dunne beats Munroe. How is Martinez relevant in that equation?
Like I said let's wait to see how Munroe fares when the buffet of African farmers and Italian road sweepers he has been feasting on is replaced with a dose of Toshiaki Nishioka. Let's see how smug you high visibility jacket wearing mo fos are then.:D
lucatoni08
09-27-2009, 09:35 AM
I agree with Patrick P to a certain extent. I think if munroe fought Poonswat he would probably lose on points. But I still think Dunne outboxes munroe as munroe has no real power threat to Dunne despite the chin. Dunne in my opinion is a better boxer than munroe and would probably win it on points....
Jamie369
09-27-2009, 10:00 AM
OK I will put this as simple as I can. Dunne struggles with big punchers like Martinez, Dunne does not struggle with light hitting boxers with less skill and speed than him like Munroe. Ergo, Dunne beats Munroe. How is Martinez relevant in that equation?
Like I said let's wait to see how Munroe fares when the buffet of African farmers and Italian road sweepers he has been feasting on is replaced with a dose of Toshiaki Nishioka. Let's see how smug you high visibility jacket wearing mo fos are then.:D
You seem to be underrating Munroe quite a bit.Plus if Dunne can be got out of there in 1 by Martinez and 3 by Poonsawat,then how can you be so sure he can last 12,even against the relatively light hitting Munroe?
You say he doesn't struggle with light hitting boxers,but when has he ever been up against a good boxer who doesn't have great power? Cordoba is the only one,and while that was a great win,Dunne did stuggle and if I remember correctly was down on points if he had got the TKO.
I'm not saying Dunne can't or won't beat Munroe,and I'm no hater,I support most British and Irish fighters,but there's no way it's as much a foregone conclusion as you are predicting.
DOM5153
09-27-2009, 10:12 AM
Dunne has more skills, Dunne has more power, Munroe has no power, so yes Dunne beats Munroe.
Let's have a bit of perspective here, Dunne just lost to one of the best at the weight. Munroe is not even near Poonsawats level so let's not get carried away now thinking Munroe would beat Dunne. Styles make fights and Poonsawat's style was all wrong for Dunne.
im sorry but he does not have better skills than munroe, dunne wouldnt be able to dent munroe but munroe would certainly be able to dent dunne, even if dunne does have more power, rendall certainly aint no slouch
i suppose martinez was all wrong for him as well, munroe seemed to deal with him easily enough, please enough with the excuses, i find it funny how rendalls name is always pulled through the shit when someone describes dunne
rant over
ps munroe beats dunne in a close fight
PatrickP
09-27-2009, 10:12 AM
You seem to be underrating Munroe quite a bit.Plus if Dunne can be got out of there in 1 by Martinez and 3 by Poonsawat,then how can you be so sure he can last 12,even against the relatively light hitting Munroe?
You say he doesn't struggle with light hitting boxers,but when has he ever been up against a good boxer who doesn't have great power? Cordoba is the only one,and while that was a great win,Dunne did stuggle and if I remember correctly was down on points if he had got the TKO.
I'm not saying Dunne can't or won't beat Munroe,and I'm no hater,I support most British and Irish fighters,but there's no way it's as much a foregone conclusion as you are predicting.
The 2006 Esham Pickering is about as close in level to Munroe as anyone Dunne has ever faced. Comparing Munroe to Cordoba is utter bullshit. Cordoba hits way harder than Munroe and is on a totally different level skillwise. Listen I am not saying it is a foregone conclusion but he still has all the atributes needed to beat the binman unless the war with Cordoba and last nights loss has taking it all out of him. That's the only way Munroe beats Dunne imo, if Dunne is shot after his recent fights.
lucatoni08
09-27-2009, 10:20 AM
You seem to be underrating Munroe quite a bit.Plus if Dunne can be got out of there in 1 by Martinez and 3 by Poonsawat,then how can you be so sure he can last 12,even against the relatively light hitting Munroe?
You say he doesn't struggle with light hitting boxers,but when has he ever been up against a good boxer who doesn't have great power? Cordoba is the only one,and while that was a great win,Dunne did stuggle and if I remember correctly was down on points if he had got the TKO.
I'm not saying Dunne can't or won't beat Munroe,and I'm no hater,I support most British and Irish fighters,but there's no way it's as much a foregone conclusion as you are predicting.
Cos he's gone 12 rounds before..... He has had 30 fights, not just 3..
UndisputedUK
09-27-2009, 01:11 PM
Dunne was "done" starched last night wasn't he?
PatrickP
09-27-2009, 01:16 PM
Dunne was "done" starched last night wasn't he?
You're a sharp lad aint you :lol: Knocked out by the no 1 contender for the title and a much avoided boxer at that.
Remind me again, who did Munroe fight last? :think
Enough with all this smug bullshit from you binman fans, the shoe will soon be on the other foot, trust me.
Dunne vs munroe threads are useless
almsn
09-27-2009, 03:07 PM
Don't know tbh .Munroe should step up I think .Don't think he's got the hunger.Think about it how many world champions do you know with day jobs.No offence he seems like a decent lad but he needs to do something .Remember he said when Dunne was fighting Cordoba he got offered but says when he fights for a world title he wants to win one not just fight for one .Think that day job could be time studying boxing and the world champions of his division
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mryeags
09-27-2009, 03:28 PM
Munroes way to smart for Dunne .... ringcraft is a great skill and Rendall knows how to read and pace a fight ! ...Lets face it Dunne is second rate - just the paddys are too blind too see it ! .....
Jamie369
09-27-2009, 06:45 PM
Cos he's gone 12 rounds before..... He has had 30 fights, not just 3..
Obviously I know he's gone 12 before,what I'm saying is that with 2 early losses, I wouldn't be that confident of Dunne lasting 12 against any good fighter,especially if the Poonsawat and Cordoba fights have taken something from him.
paddymickey
09-27-2009, 07:15 PM
I think the Dunne V Munroe debate is quite silly in terms of the analogies and references I've seen here.
1> "Dunne is more powerful then Munroe" - On what basis?
2> "Munroe is more powerful then Dunne" - On what basis?
3> "Munroe beat kiko twice so he would beat Dunne" - Invalid point, you think if Dunne beat Andy Morris the the same logic would apply. No.
4> "Munroe has a better chin then Dunne" - the Kiko punch that landed on Dunne did not land on Munroe. Not to mention Munroe has not been in with the likes of Cordoba or Poonsawt.
5> "Dunne has more skill then munroe" - There are 2 types of skill. Munroe has defensive skill and Dunne has attacking skill. Overall skill is the combination of both but at world class level we have not seen this enough to make that call. I think their both skillfull.
6> "Munroe is in a much higher class then Dunne" His team turned down Cordoba which they felt he wasn't ready for. I think they know best. I emphasise the word ready by the way.
7> "Dunne is in a much higher class then Munroe" - Munroe has not had the same amount of fights and has not stepped up to the next level yet so too soon to say.
Over all I think it is somewhat of an unkown quantity if they meet but I really can't see it ever happening. I think their both good having seen them both plenty of times. Munroe is untested at world level but is certainly tested at European level. Cut him some slack. Dunne has had a fine run and only has 2 losses. He won a European belt and a World title. He can't be that bad. Maybe you should just enjoy both of them like I do!
Healy
09-27-2009, 07:19 PM
Agree with the above post, brilliant
Munroe would have lasted and probably lost on points, i personally think Dunne is a better fighter than Munroe, bar his chin, so id give Dunne a great chance to beat Munroe..
But i dont really care at this stage, Dunnes chin is too shaky
PatrickP
09-27-2009, 08:03 PM
I think the Dunne V Munroe debate is quite silly in terms of the analogies and references I've seen here.
1> "Dunne is more powerful then Munroe" - On what basis?
2> "Munroe is more powerful then Dunne" - On what basis?
3> "Munroe beat kiko twice so he would beat Dunne" - Invalid point, you think if Dunne beat Andy Morris the the same logic would apply. No.
4> "Munroe has a better chin then Dunne" - the Kiko punch that landed on Dunne did not land on Munroe. Not to mention Munroe has not been in with the likes of Cordoba or Poonsawt.
5> "Dunne has more skill then munroe" - There are 2 types of skill. Munroe has defensive skill and Dunne has attacking skill. Overall skill is the combination of both but at world class level we have not seen this enough to make that call. I think their both skillfull.
6> "Munroe is in a much higher class then Dunne" His team turned down Cordoba which they felt he wasn't ready for. I think they know best. I emphasise the word ready by the way.
7> "Dunne is in a much higher class then Munroe" - Munroe has not had the same amount of fights and has not stepped up to the next level yet so too soon to say.
Over all I think it is somewhat of an unkown quantity if they meet but I really can't see it ever happening. I think their both good having seen them both plenty of times. Munroe is untested at world level but is certainly tested at European level. Cut him some slack. Dunne has had a fine run and only has 2 losses. He won a European belt and a World title. He can't be that bad. Maybe you should just enjoy both of them like I do!
Dunne has a higher ko rate than Munroe against a higher level of opposition, Munroe is known for being light puncher, this equals Dunne having more power.
Anyone who watches both fighters and judges on pure skill will tell you that Dunne is the more technically gifted fighter if they are being totally honest.
Munroe has better punch resistence that's obvious.
What riles me about this kind of thread is how quick Munroe fans are to jump on Dunne when he loses. If Munroe loses to Nishioka, which is very likely, I don't think we will see any such threads from Dunne's fans trying to rub it in. The funny thing is Dunne was willing to test himself at world level and fight whoever was put in front of him whereas Munroe has to date turned down every decent challenge offered to him since becoming Euro champ, yet Dunne is the one being ridiculed :patsch
paddymickey
09-27-2009, 09:23 PM
Dunne has a higher ko rate than Munroe against a higher level of opposition, Munroe is known for being light puncher, this equals Dunne having more power.
Anyone who watches both fighters and judges on pure skill will tell you that Dunne is the more technically gifted fighter if they are being totally honest.
Munroe has better punch resistence that's obvious.
What riles me about this kind of thread is how quick Munroe fans are to jump on Dunne when he loses. If Munroe loses to Nishioka, which is very likely, I don't think we will see any such threads from Dunne's fans trying to rub it in. The funny thing is Dunne was willing to test himself at world level and fight whoever was put in front of him whereas Munroe has to date turned down every decent challenge offered to him since becoming Euro champ, yet Dunne is the one being ridiculed :patsch
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I have to say from what I saw of Munroe he had good defensive skills?
I think you have just been roped into a my mother vs your mother arguement by the sound of it.
A lot better. Munroe hasn't got shakey whiskers, and overall he's very strong at the weight, whereas Dunne just looks frail. Whether thats because of weight draining or just a lack of natural strength compared to Munroe I don't know, but the difference when facing a strong pressure fighter is evident. Munroe dealt with Martinez, Dunne simply didn't and I wouldn't put my house on him doing much better in a rematch.
Having a good chin and being strong are unlikely to win the fight for Munroe mind, he'd need a lot more than that. The Thai had some nice speed and movement, not bad overall skills, whereas Munroe is a bit of a plodder and lacks accuracy. Poon either stops him late or I'd go for a clear decision for Poon.
The other side of the coin is I'm not sure Munroe fairs well against Cordoba. If you give Dunne space to work he can be very good, he's a textbook boxer. Cordoba did that as an outboxer. Munroe on the other hand I think is going to struggle with good boxers with speed because he's not too good on his feet and his punches are 'pushed'. He punches a lot but he doesn't hit a lot.
icemax
09-28-2009, 06:27 AM
You're a sharp lad aint you :lol: Knocked out by the no 1 contender for the title and a much avoided boxer at that.
Even in humiliating defeat Dunne is being bigged up, its hilarious, keep it up boys :thumbsup
Mazallan
09-28-2009, 06:57 AM
Not sure if Munroe could do any better but it is a shame Dunne never became world champion. I can not see where he can go now. Hopefully Munroe will throw him a life line and fight him or Dunne may be back fighting euro bums and domestic fighters.
PatrickP
09-28-2009, 10:30 AM
Even in humiliating defeat Dunne is being bigged up, its hilarious, keep it up boys :thumbsup
Simply stating a fact Icemax, there is nothing humiliating about getting knocked out by someone of Poonsawats calibre. I suppose you think we should all be ridiculing him because he lost. There is a difference between hyping up a fighter and supporting him in defeat but I guess that concept is lost on you.
icemax
09-28-2009, 10:37 AM
Simply stating a fact Icemax, there is nothing humiliating about getting knocked out by someone of Poonsawats calibre. I suppose you think we should all be ridiculing him because he lost. There is a difference between hyping up a fighter and supporting him in defeat but I guess that concept is lost on you.
:-(
lucatoni08
09-28-2009, 10:49 AM
:-(
I agree with Patrick here, its definitely a british thing...You cant be seen to support a sportstar who has been beaten, you'd rather turn on them. Obviously a massive genralisation, but it is evident in British sport time and time again....
I mean what you quoted wasn't even a 'bigging up statement' as you put it.
Mandanda
09-28-2009, 10:52 AM
If Munroe fought the Thai last night??.....he would be contemplating where he goes after a knock out loss.
moorser
09-29-2009, 09:19 AM
poon beats munroe easily probably on points as munroe is a monster for the weight
munroe will be found out once he fights the jap lad
i still think dunne beats munroe hands down
benrard just cant beat big punchers and munroe hasnt got a big punch at all his punch technique is all wrong
Cornerman
09-29-2009, 09:50 AM
Munroe would have done better but Dunne would beat Munroe. Munroe's chin and defence is much better than dunne's. However Munroe would still lose convincingly to poonsawat.
icemax
09-29-2009, 11:20 AM
I agree with Patrick here, its definitely a british thing...You cant be seen to support a sportstar who has been beaten, you'd rather turn on them. Obviously a massive genralisation, but it is evident in British sport time and time again....
I mean what you quoted wasn't even a 'bigging up statement' as you put it.
You are missing the point. My comments have got jack shit to do with Dunne who I think is a decent pro operating at a decent level, but everything to do with his rabid fans who will not have one jot said against him. The reaction to Dunnes win over Cordoba was amazing...go back over the threads and see what a mauling Munroes name took for no other reason than someone suggesting that him and Dunne might be a decent match-up.
It seems that rational and balanced debate about any Irish fighter is completely off limits
lucatoni08
09-29-2009, 11:33 AM
You are missing the point. My comments have got jack shit to do with Dunne who I think is a decent pro operating at a decent level, but everything to do with his rabid fans who will not have one jot said against him. The reaction to Dunnes win over Cordoba was amazing...go back over the threads and see what a mauling Munroes name took for no other reason than someone suggesting that him and Dunne might be a decent match-up.
It seems that rational and balanced debate about any Irish fighter is completely off limits
You get that everywhere, i've been on these forums where you couldnt say a bad word about Hatton or Calzaghe or Pacman or Maywether at certain times without getting abuse from his rabid fans. If your going to criticise a fighter of course his fans will jump to his defence.
I highly doubt the majority of Dunne fans attacked you for 'merely suggesting it would be a decent fight', I think you just felt agrieved that most people agreed that Dunne would win, and besides, at the time Dunne was operating at a different level and some of Munroes fans took offence to Dunne fans suggesting that a world title fight would be a better option than a fight against Munroe in a leisure centre in Wigan for a european belt.....
PatrickP
09-29-2009, 11:43 AM
You are missing the point. My comments have got jack shit to do with Dunne who I think is a decent pro operating at a decent level, but everything to do with his rabid fans who will not have one jot said against him. The reaction to Dunnes win over Cordoba was amazing...go back over the threads and see what a mauling Munroes name took for no other reason than someone suggesting that him and Dunne might be a decent match-up.
It seems that rational and balanced debate about any Irish fighter is completely off limits
You are being very hypocritical Icemax. If you want to see blind faith in a boxer by his fellow countryman just go onto the General forum whenever David Haye is discussed. Anyone who dares to bring up his flaws and the likelyhood that he would be in over his head against the Klits or Valuev are quickly shot down. I'm not criticising this, I understand it, he is a Brit so you guys want to support him whatever the circumstances. It's the same situation with Dunne and his Irish fans.
Mazallan
09-29-2009, 12:01 PM
You are being very hypocritical Icemax. If you want to see blind faith in a boxer by his fellow countryman just go onto the General forum whenever David Haye is discussed. Anyone who dares to bring up his flaws and the likelyhood that he would be in over his head against the Klits or Valuev are quickly shot down. I'm not criticising this, I understand it, he is a Brit so you guys want to support him whatever the circumstances. It's the same situation with Dunne and his Irish fans.
The GM forum is for idiots. If you talk Haye in the Brit forum you will find alot of people are not sure he camn cut it against the elite heavies but carry on in your blind hatred.
PatrickP
09-29-2009, 12:03 PM
The GM forum is for idiots. If you talk Haye in the Brit forum you will find alot of people are not sure he camn cut it against the elite heavies but carry on in your blind hatred.
Huh??
DOM5153
09-29-2009, 12:32 PM
seriously though if munroe loses his next fight i WONT just suddenly stop liking him... despite being british lol
PatrickP
09-29-2009, 12:53 PM
seriously though if munroe loses his next fight i WONT just suddenly stop liking him... despite being british lol
:lol: That's good, I can't see Maludrottu beating him anyway so I think you're good for a while anyway.
DOM5153
09-29-2009, 02:49 PM
:lol: That's good, I can't see Maludrottu beating him anyway so I think you're good for a while anyway.
i sure hope rendall gives up the day job:smoke
i hope you know i have nothing personal against dunne:bbb
PatrickP
09-29-2009, 03:10 PM
i sure hope rendall gives up the day job:smoke
i hope you know i have nothing personal against dunne:bbb
Same here man, I've nothing against Rendall, he seems like a good lad in and out of the ring.
You're right, he really should give up the day job, at least that way he will know that he gave his world title bid his best shot, win or lose.
icemax
09-29-2009, 06:03 PM
You are being very hypocritical Icemax. If you want to see blind faith in a boxer by his fellow countryman just go onto the General forum whenever David Haye is discussed. Anyone who dares to bring up his flaws and the likelyhood that he would be in over his head against the Klits or Valuev are quickly shot down. I'm not criticising this, I understand it, he is a Brit so you guys want to support him whatever the circumstances. It's the same situation with Dunne and his Irish fans.
:nono Hypocritical?...you are making an assumption that I am some sort of fanboy. I appreciate any boxer, at whatever level, who plies his trade to the best of his ability-I certainly don't go in for this following a fighter like a football supporter malarky. The only boxer who I am slightly blind to is Junior Witter (and maybe Rhodes and Duran), but I do recognise their failings and admit to such in debate
king s
09-29-2009, 06:08 PM
How would have he done?
Alot better than dunne thats for sure.:hammertime
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