View Full Version : Ike Williams vs. Carlos Ortiz
Luigi1985
09-18-2007, 03:32 AM
Who wins at 135 lbs and why?
Street Lethal
09-18-2007, 03:42 AM
Ortiz. He's a lot better. Williams could punch, but against a fighter of Ortiz's calibre, he would fold.
mcvey
09-18-2007, 06:34 AM
Who wins at 135 lbs and why?
Ike for me,but it would be a classic,both complete fighters.
Sonny Carson
09-18-2007, 01:51 PM
I would say Ike he was the Shane Mosley of his time with speed and power.
C. M. Clay II
09-18-2007, 02:22 PM
Ike by late stoppage.
Street Lethal
09-19-2007, 01:30 AM
:patsch
It's clear you haven't studied either the record or the tape. Ortiz was in a different class than Williams.
Luigi1985
09-19-2007, 05:13 AM
I wouldn´t call Street Lethal indirectly stupid, only because he says that Ortiz was in another class. Ortiz was very consistent and beat the better fighters, and he had no real weaknesses...
robert ungurean
09-19-2007, 06:35 PM
:huh Ortiz. He's a lot better. Williams could punch, but against a fighter of Ortiz's calibre, he would fold.
Ike Williams all the way.
Street Lethal
09-19-2007, 07:43 PM
I wouldn´t call Street Lethal indirectly stupid, only because he says that Ortiz was in another class. Ortiz was very consistent and beat the better fighters, and he had no real weaknesses...
And Williams had lots of weakness and had the shit beat out of him several times on account of them. He couldn't take to the head or the body. Ortiz would have administered a severe beating to Williams. People are way overestimating Williams' chances here, to the point of absurity, to be honest about things.
brownpimp88
09-19-2007, 08:11 PM
Ortiz beat the better fighters and he was more consistent, ortiz ud.
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