View Full Version : The PBF-Hatton fight will be a crap atmosphere..
Strike
09-18-2007, 04:49 AM
Of the 17,000 seats available, British fans have been allocated less than 4000. That means it will be packed with celebs and corporate people...a shit atmosphere is virtually guaranteed.
It is not that PBF fans would not make an atmosphere, but the low allocation to British fans shows that a lot of the seats are basically reserved for people who dont really give a shit about the sport.
Cerberus
09-18-2007, 04:51 AM
a lot of the seats are basically reserved for people who dont really give a shit about the sport.
Yes, as is the case with the Super Bowl, the NBA Finals, etc..
Strike
09-18-2007, 04:53 AM
Yes, as is the case with the Super Bowl, the NBA Finals, etc..
As I have never watched either of those, are you being sarcastic? If so then I don't think it is a good comparison. I have watched plenty of big Vegas fights and the atmosphere is almost always crap, because half the stadium is full of celebs and businessmen and not real fans.
Dr Gonzo
09-18-2007, 04:57 AM
As I have never watched either of those, are you being sarcastic? If so then I don't think it is a good comparison. I have watched plenty of big Vegas fights and the atmosphere is almost always crap, because half the stadium is full of celebs and businessmen and not real fans.
nah mate he is being serious - the NBA play offs have celebs, sponsors and business people for 10 rows; no real fans have decent seats and jerseys are few and far between
Cerberus
09-18-2007, 05:00 AM
I'm not being sarcastic. The big events simply cost too much for the regular Joe fan like you and I. With only 17,000 seats, they are sure to jack up the prices. Sometimes, the celebs are the only ones that can afford the good seats to these kind of events..
Sure, some of those Hatton fans are hardcore.. but how many can really afford a plane ticket to the States, hotel and spending money, and still pay top dollar for seats for the fight? Doubt there are many..
Dr Gonzo
09-18-2007, 05:01 AM
I'm not being sarcastic. The big events simply cost too much for the regular Joe fan like you and I. With only 17,000 seats, they are sure to jack up the prices. Sometimes, the celebs are the only ones that can afford the good seats to these kind of events..
Sure, some of those Hatton fans are hardcore.. but how many can really afford a plane ticket to the States, hotel and spending money, and still pay top dollar for seats for the fight? Doubt there are many..
i agree with all that but at a side note the pound stirling is very strong.... :D
Nemesis
09-18-2007, 05:27 AM
Of the 17,000 seats available, British fans have been allocated less than 4000. That means it will be packed with celebs and corporate people...a shit atmosphere is virtually guaranteed.
It is not that PBF fans would not make an atmosphere, but the low allocation to British fans shows that a lot of the seats are basically reserved for people who dont really give a shit about the sport.
the atmosphere in the closed circuit room's will be good though :-(
hitman_hatton1
09-18-2007, 05:43 AM
as long as they get the band in there it should sound good. :good
shame about only 4000 british fans.
but the demand was always gonna be huge.
33,000 british fans applied for tickets. :shock:
they should have done it somewhere massive like the alamo dome or new orleans superdome to meet the demand.
but vegas is where the real money is at. :roll:
GazOC
09-18-2007, 06:31 AM
Why would it be a crap atmosphere with 4,000 Hatton die-hards??
4,000 people is a lot of people...
Theres debate over on Hattons forum about how many 'die hards' acually have a ticket out of that 4000. A lot of that allocation seems to have gone to Punch Promotions package deals. Out of 8000 members (not all applied obviously, but a hel of a lot did), just over 100 got tickets in the ballot and nobody got any of the 'cheap seats' that were supposed to make up 45% of the British allocation. They just seem to have gone missing somewhere.....ie Punch Promotions package deals.
The whole thing Punch/ GBP/ Ticketmaster stinks to high hell IMHO.
PATSYS
09-18-2007, 06:36 AM
I do not know what a crap atmosphere is, nor do I care. I just want this fight to happen so badly so I can enjoy in my living room while they both kick the shit out of each other.:happy
duran83
09-18-2007, 07:47 AM
Of the 17,000 seats available, British fans have been allocated less than 4000. That means it will be packed with celebs and corporate people...a shit atmosphere is virtually guaranteed.
It is not that PBF fans would not make an atmosphere, but the low allocation to British fans shows that a lot of the seats are basically reserved for people who dont really give a shit about the sport.
Trust me mate there wil be at least 10000 brits in there, all the tickets have gone to brokers who will sell them to British fans.
David UK
09-18-2007, 07:53 AM
It's a disgrace that the so called mecca of boxing cannot find a larger arena than a pathetic 17000 which is less than most low level British football grounds. With the unprecedented demand for tickets this should have been held at Wembley Stadium or some American Football stadium/bowl
Ambition_Def
09-18-2007, 07:55 AM
the atmosphere in the closed circuit room's will be good though :-(
Pft.. The atmosphere in my living room will be enough. And it only needs one loudmouth (me).
Marnoff
09-18-2007, 07:59 AM
Yankee Stadium!
ThePlugInBabies
09-18-2007, 08:00 AM
you want an atmosphere? go watch some football!
no doubt i love a loud atmosphere (shame i miss out, considering my teams less than vocal home supporters, but you gotta sit in silence sometimes to admire the finer arts :yep ) but quite frankly i couldn't care less if it was deadly silent whilst watching boxing. if there's noise fair enough, if not then i'm not gonna miss it.
achillesthegreat
09-18-2007, 08:03 AM
4000 Hatton fans is more than enough to shake the very foundation Vegas is built on. Roll on Dec 8.
without wanting to sound rude, the yanks really screwed the pooch here...
hatton should fight at home, least fans would get to see him that way. MGM might be good forthe cash, but its crap for fans.
/Theo
4000 Hatton fans is more than enough to shake the very foundation Vegas is built on. Roll on Dec 8.
there might be only 4k in the venue mate, but i suspect youll see 10k of us in vegas ;)
/Theo
psychopath
09-18-2007, 08:11 AM
Of the 17,000 seats available, British fans have been allocated less than 4000. That means it will be packed with celebs and corporate people...a shit atmosphere is virtually guaranteed.
It is not that PBF fans would not make an atmosphere, but the low allocation to British fans shows that a lot of the seats are basically reserved for people who dont really give a shit about the sport.
What crap atmosphere are you talking about? :think
If they will allow more than 4,000 Hatton fans in there it's not gonna be crappy . . . it's gonna be shitty! :yep
These people are gonna be singing again . . . as if they are watching a goddam football game. :hey
Just fucki'n annoying. :bbb
Since that is the situation . . . the other fans can sing their hearts out in the parking lot. :rofl
pipe wrenched
09-18-2007, 08:12 AM
What crap atmosphere are you talking about? :think
If they will allow more than 4,000 Hatton fans in there it's not gonna be crappy . . . it's gonna be shitty! :yep
These people are gonna be singing again . . . as if they are watching a goddam football game. :hey :rofl Just fucki'n annoying. :bbb
:good
GazOC
09-18-2007, 08:20 AM
there might be only 4k in the venue mate, but i suspect youll see 10k of us in vegas ;)
/Theo
The CCTV at the MGM Ballroom had also just sold out....so theres another 6000 for starters.
GazOC
09-18-2007, 08:21 AM
What crap atmosphere are you talking about? :think
If they will allow more than 4,000 Hatton fans in there it's not gonna be crappy . . . it's gonna be shitty! :yep
These people are gonna be singing again . . . as if they are watching a goddam football game. :hey
Just fucki'n annoying. :bbb
Since that is the situation . . . the other fans can sing their hearts out in the parking lot. :rofl
What atmosphere would you like? One where the high rollers come in 5 mins before the main event, watch in silence and the fuck off to the gaming tables straight after the fight is finished?
psychopath
09-18-2007, 08:24 AM
What atmosphere would you like? One where the high rollers come in 5 mins before the main event, watch in silence and the fuck off to the gaming tables straight after the fight is finished?
The atmosphere where you can hear the punches' impact on the fighters.
Who the fuck cares about the high rollers? I'm there to watch the fight not the audience and get distracted. :yep
If these people wants to sing while watching let them watch football.
GazOC
09-18-2007, 08:34 AM
Who the fuck cares about the high rollers? I'm there to watch the fight not the audience and get distracted. :yep
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psychopath
09-18-2007, 08:43 AM
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Nah nah nah I just hate the fucki'n singing period. :yep If I want to hear singing . . . I'll be watching a concert dude. :D :rofl :good
China_hand_Joe
09-18-2007, 08:44 AM
the atmosphere in the closed circuit room's will be good though :-(
What is the point of those things?
China_hand_Joe
09-18-2007, 08:45 AM
Of the 17,000 seats available, British fans have been allocated less than 4000. That means it will be packed with celebs and corporate people...a shit atmosphere is virtually guaranteed.
It is not that PBF fans would not make an atmosphere, but the low allocation to British fans shows that a lot of the seats are basically reserved for people who dont really give a shit about the sport.
I agree entirely.
Americans have killed off the event. Maybe they fear European boxers becoming too big or something, I don't know.
GazOC
09-18-2007, 08:48 AM
Nah nah nah I just hate the fucki'n singing period. :yep If I want to hear singing . . . I'll be watching a concert dude. :D :rofl :good
:lol: When I went over to MSG to watch Lewis-Holy I could see some of the Americans just wide-eyed and shaking their heads at all the singing and noise....it really made me chuckle, at least you know the tactic is working on somebody!!:good
ThePlugInBabies
09-18-2007, 08:50 AM
Nah nah nah I just hate the fucki'n singing period. :yep If I want to hear singing . . . I'll be watching a concert dude. :D :rofl :good
yeah, you yanks really can't do sports atmosphere. you should go see a big football derby in person, the north london derby, old firm, city-united, liverpool-everton. can't beat it.
psychopath
09-18-2007, 09:00 AM
yeah, you yanks really can't do sports atmosphere. you should go see a big football derby in person, the north london derby, old firm, city-united, liverpool-everton. can't beat it.
Singing? Sports atmosphere? :think
Singing while two fighters try to break each other's faces?
:D :lol: :rofl
psychopath
09-18-2007, 09:02 AM
:lol: When I went over to MSG to watch Lewis-Holy I could see some of the Americans just wide-eyed and shaking their heads at all the singing and noise....it really made me chuckle, at least you know the tactic is working on somebody!!:good
Because these people came in there to watch a fight :D not to hear singing. :rofl
GazOC
09-18-2007, 09:03 AM
I guess its just a 'culture thing'. Brits sing at sporting events, thats just the way it is!!
GazOC
09-18-2007, 09:04 AM
Because these people came in there to watch a fight :D not to hear singing. :rofl
You can do both...its called multi-tasking....;)
psychopath
09-18-2007, 09:06 AM
I guess its just a 'culture thing'. Brits sing at sporting events, thats just the way it is!!
Yeah right unfortunately this fight is not in Brits territory . . . so it look and sounds stupid. :yep :good
pipe wrenched
09-18-2007, 09:10 AM
Yeah right unfortunately this fight is not in Brits territory . . . so it look and sounds stupid. :yep :good
Indeed.
GazOC
09-18-2007, 09:14 AM
Yeah right unfortunately this fight is not in Brits territory . . . so it look and sounds stupid. :yep :good
You buy enough tickets for a venue then it is your territory. The Castillo fight was a case in point, great atmosphere (unless you like watching your fights in a library).
Of the 17,000 seats available, British fans have been allocated less than 4000. That means it will be packed with celebs and corporate people...a shit atmosphere is virtually guaranteed.
It is not that PBF fans would not make an atmosphere, but the low allocation to British fans shows that a lot of the seats are basically reserved for people who dont really give a shit about the sport.
I think a lot more than 4,000 will get tickets. Mayweather has the same, right? He won't sell 4,000 too easily, so I think a few will end up goin to Brits. Then there are the ones the venue will be selling, and they are available to anyone, so I'd expect British fans to get a good 80% of those. De La Hoya has some tickets and they will go quickly, maybe to Hatton fans as well.
The ticket allocation says Hatton gets 4,000, but I'd be very surprised if there wasn't twice as many as that on the night.
Richel Hersisia
09-18-2007, 09:35 AM
yeah, you yanks really can't do sports atmosphere. you should go see a big football derby in person, the north london derby, old firm, city-united, liverpool-everton. can't beat it.
I would prefer Boca Juniors River plate, Panathinaikos Olympiakos or Galatasary Fenerbache.
marting
09-18-2007, 09:48 AM
The problem I guess is that when it comes to upfront guarantees Vegas is the king and I think it's bad for boxing because there are literally hundreds of venues in the United States that would be far better than Vegas.
And to make things worse this Vegas syndrome is fueled by the cable companies because they could give a shit about live gate numbers. They literally force the average working stiff to watch it on TV because a decent seat for a major boxing match is prohibitively priced. It's all descended into an exercise in elitism and to some degree I think it hurts boxing in developing a broader appeal. But I don't think the powers in boxing give a crap just so long as they get their money.
Thread Stealer
09-18-2007, 11:46 AM
Of the 17,000 seats available, British fans have been allocated less than 4000. That means it will be packed with celebs and corporate people...a shit atmosphere is virtually guaranteed.
It is not that PBF fans would not make an atmosphere, but the low allocation to British fans shows that a lot of the seats are basically reserved for people who dont really give a shit about the sport.
A lot of tickets are still probably unsold and in the hands of ticket agents.
I never quite understood the ticket allocation. Of the 15,000 tickets, about 5,000 were supposed to go to MGM Grand's preferred customers (high rollers who spend a lot). GBP was supposed to hold a little more than 2,000 for their preferred customers (sponsors/potential sponsors). 7,800 were supposed to be allocated equally among Mayweather and Hatton fans.
What exactly was sold to the public, on ticketmaster? Ticketmaster doesn't ask you "who are you rooting for?" The tickets sold out quickly, I'm thinking a small amount was actually sold to the public. Ticket agencies probably bought a large chunk of them. Then they can sell them to the public at high prices. The lowest on stubhub is $1200 and the other websites have them at about $900 at the lowest.
I think the British fans coming to Vegas are more likely to spend that type of money on a ticket.
Travel half-way across the world to see a fight on closed circuit?
I would prefer Boca Juniors River plate, Panathinaikos Olympiakos or Galatasary Fenerbache.
Lol like getting shot 4 looking in the wrong direction? ;)
but yher. they ARE awsome atmosphears.
JETSKI
09-18-2007, 12:08 PM
Of the 17,000 seats available, British fans have been allocated less than 4000. That means it will be packed with celebs and corporate people...a shit atmosphere is virtually guaranteed.
It is not that PBF fans would not make an atmosphere, but the low allocation to British fans shows that a lot of the seats are basically reserved for people who dont really give a shit about the sport.
I think 4000 UK fans could take out 13,000 homo celebs & corporate sluts with no problem & I'd love to see it happen.:yep
Fab2333
09-18-2007, 12:11 PM
Pft.. The atmosphere in my living room will be enough. And it only needs one loudmouth (me).:lol::lol::lol::lol::good
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