Vincente saldivar

[Boro chris]

How good was he? Just checking out his second fight against Winstone. Any opinions appreciated!:good

[TommyV]

Up there with the greatest southpaws of all-time, and the top featherweights aswell. Doesn't have the most stacked resume, but it's packed with quality with 3 wins over Howard Winstone, and further wins over the likes of Ismael Laguna, Jose Legra & Sugar Ramos. A really quality all-round southpaw, used the stance supremely well, and could box consistently for 15, aswell as bang. Really good body attack aswell, and a great left hand allround, great punch variety with it.

[Russell]

Considered on of Jofre's best wins, I know that.

One of the last times his name came up I think it was mentioned that a criminal lack of footage on him is one of the reasons he's almost forgotten today, despite him a potential ATG.

The first decade of his career he looked to be a absolute destroyed on paper, only losing one fight via DQ. Has multiple wins against ATG's as well.

[TheGreatA]

This full fight of his was recently uploaded on youtube by mhagler/west:

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[GPater11093]

ive got afew fights of his mostly highlights

good pressure fighter, good fundamentals and a solid body attack

a formiddable fighter ill have to wathc some more

[Sweet Pea]

Considered on of Jofre's best wins, I know that.He was shot to pieces when Jofre beat him.


One of the last times his name came up I think it was mentioned that a criminal lack of footage on him is one of the reasons he's almost forgotten today, despite him a potential ATG.There's actually a decent amount. All 3 of the Winstone fights, along the Seki fight are up on Youtube. There's also footage of his bout with Johnny Famechon among others.

I think his resume is actually quite stacked to be honest. Multiple wins over Winstone and Seki, along with wins over Famechon, Ramos, a young Laguna, Jose Legra, Dwight Hawkins, Baby Luis, Raul Rojas, Frankie Crawford, etc. Fantasic fighter all in all, with a very collected and patient style. Normally wouldn't really get into his groove until the mid to late rounds, when his swarming body/head attack would leave opponents overwhelmed regardless of what had taken place up until that point. The second Winstone fight is an all time classic and a great example of this. I had Winstone slightly ahead after 10 rounds, at which point Saldivar turned it into high gear and gave him a thorough beating throughout the final 5 to secure a lop-sided victory on the cards (that's how one-sided those last 5 rounds were). Winstone actually thought he was robbed on the grounds that he did enough during the early rounds to keep the lead. I guess the beating left his memory a little shoddy.

[GPater11093]

from my memory i have

Laguna, Seki, Famechon, and about 3 or 4 other HLs

i wouldnt say theres hardly any footage, theres definitly enough to gauge how good he is

[Flea Man]

Most definitely NOT one of Jofre's best wins. Though I would still like to see the fight, footage of Jofre/Saldivar is always appreciated, at whatever stage of their careers.

[My2Sense]

Saldivar was one of those fighters who didn't always look spectacular, but consistently managed to win, and against some very classy fighters - ie: Ramos, Laguna, Legra, Famechon, etc. He was an aggressive southpaw technician (not really a brawler), fairly good at picking off punches and countering with his straight left.

His most impressive performances were against Ramos, who he outclassed in a brutal war, and his blowout of Robertson. Ramos had been pretty red hot for a year or two prior to that, and Robertson was known as the "uncrowned champion" after losing a highly disputed decision to Ramos.

By the time of his 2nd defense against Winstone, it seemed (at least to me) that he might be slipping a bit, possibly from the effort to make weight. His "comeback" feat against Legra and Famechon a few years later was very impressive though.

I do believe the loss to Jofre is something of a mar against him, though. Even though Saldivar was definitely past his prime then, Jofre was by far the older and more faded of the two. Incidentally, that was a fight that in talks to happen several years earlier, when Jofre was the bantam champ, provided Jofre successfully defended against Harada - which of course didn't happen.

[My2Sense]

One of the last times his name came up I think it was mentioned that a criminal lack of footage on him is one of the reasons he's almost forgotten today, despite him a potential ATG.


Actually, almost all of his notable fights are on film - Ramos, Laguna, Famechon, Winstone (all three), Rojas, Seki, Legra, Robertson, Luis, Shibata, and a few others I think.

A number of them are on youtube, BTW.

[Russell]

Actually, almost all of his notable fights are on film - Ramos, Laguna, Famechon, Winstone (all three), Rojas, Seki, Legra, Robertson, Luis, Shibata, and a few others I think.

A number of them are on youtube, BTW.

News to me then.

How hard are they to find?

[WhataRock]

He has at least 15 fights on film, a lot of them almost complete..Shouldnt be to hard to find Russ.