Describe De la Hoya in one word

[essexboy]

Cross-dresser.

[PbP Bacon]

Overrated :deal

[KOTF]

diva

[essexboy]

diva

I hope you dont mind me stealing your thread idea. For some reason I felt a compelling urge to take the piss out of the Oscar. :lol:

[Maxmomer]

Cheesesicle

[BENNY BLANCO]

Maricon.

[pugilist_boyd]

All time (great) who gets alot of disrespect

[Dempsey1238]

Handsome.

He is a great fighter in his hay day.

[Maxmomer]

All time (great) who gets alot of disrespect

That was, like, 14 words.

[The Wanderer]

Needy.

Oscar's emotional neediness and desperate desire for approval is what sets a lot of people, (including myself) against him.

[Chris Warren]

border hopper

[Hatesrats]

Classic

[Hatesrats]

Maricon.Who beat Trinidad.:good

[Gesta]

All time (great) who gets alot of disrespect

Oscar is one of the best of resent years, with a great resume.

His "win" over a prime Tito is better than any win Floyd has had.

SSM has what 5 losses, Lewis was ko'ed by the rock and McCall, Hopkins's best wins are over smaller men, Manny was almost ko'ed by Hussain, etc...

[WhataRock]

Oscar is one of the best of resent years, with a great resume.

His "win" over a prime Tito is better than any win Floyd has had.

SSM has what 5 losses, Lewis was ko'ed by the rock and McCall, Hopkins's best wins are over smaller men, Manny was almost ko'ed by Hussain, etc...


thats like 50 words.

[laxpdx]

Classy

[WhataRock]

Racist.

[Gesta]

Great.

[turpinr]

mosley

[Quick Cash]

Plastic.

[El Puma]

Legend

[BENNY BLANCO]

Who beat Trinidad.:good Who ran away for 4 rounds from Trinidad like a maricon.:deal

[duranimal]

Money:smoke

[Unforgiven]

businessman

[essexboy]

All time (great) who gets alot of disrespect

Correction: An all time great who gets who gets alot of disrespect who likes to cross-dress.

[jaffay]

Plastic.

:good same thing crossed my mind

Great fighter though

[la-califa]

Disloyal

Started by not signing with the Management he agreed upon turning pro.(Who paid for his Mother's funeral)!
Alienated Mexican fans by fighting Mexican fighters early on.
Then the ultimate betrayal by a Mexican fighter... Moved to Puerto Rico!!!! Mexican Boxing's most bitter rival!!! Oh, the horror!!

[Popkins]

Significant

To the history and development of boxing. Those who dislike Oscar would disagree, but I think he has been really important for the sport over the last 15 years. The amount of fan interest he created in the 90s, the admirable way he has always sought the best opponents, his graciousness and eloquence outside of the ring, his contribution to the marginalization of Don King, I just think the guy has been a major positive force.

[Popkins]

Racist.

Seriously? Why?

[Robbi]

Good.

[mrbassie]

Transvestite

[rekcutnevets]

spurious

[sweet_scientist]

Fake.

[essexboy]

Damn, Oscar's getting alot of hate.

[Robbi]

I like De La Hoya. Some people can't stand the money, fame, and looks. And because he beat Chavez and Whitaker, it doesn't help his popularity among some. Some people may dislike him for other reasons of course.

[round15]

Lucky.

He was lucky to get decision victories over Whitaker, Quartey and Felix Sturm, when they could have been losses.

[essexboy]

Lucky.

He was lucky to get decision victories over Whitaker, Quartey and Felix Sturm, when they could have been losses.

Was he lucky against Trinidad or in the second Mosley fight?

[Mantequilla]

Stiff.

[teeto]

Good.
Took the words right out of my post.

[Bill Butcher]

Arsehole

[PowerPuncher]

Telegraphed

[KTFO]

Golden.

:yep

[sweet_scientist]

I like De La Hoya. Some people can't stand the money, fame, and looks. And because he beat Chavez and Whitaker, it doesn't help his popularity among some. Some people may dislike him for other reasons of course.

The clean cut, squeaky clean persona he fakes in the public eye for instance.

[teeto]

The clean cut, squeaky clean persona he fakes in the public eye for instance.
Or how he has consistently tried to trick the world into believing he is of the smae ilk as the very finest fighters ever.

[Xplosive]

Oppertunist

[mcvey]

Rich

[lefthook31]

Disloyal

Started by not signing with the Management he agreed upon turning pro.(Who paid for his Mother's funeral)!
Alienated Mexican fans by fighting Mexican fighters early on.
Then the ultimate betrayal by a Mexican fighter... Moved to Puerto Rico!!!! Mexican Boxing's most bitter rival!!! Oh, the horror!!
LOL, You act like there is some hatred between Puerto Ricans and Mexicans? You forgot to add he married a Puerto Rican too. :lol: THere is a strong competitive angle, but I dont see the hatred. If anything its more the Mexicans who try to spin everything out of proportion. They didnt like ODLH not because he fought Mexicans early on, but because of his clean Golden Boy (not 100% Mexican) image, and the fact he was one of the first marquee Mexican fighters that wasnt a blood and guts warrior and was open about fighting smarter which angered many Mexicans.
Regardless of who he fought, and he noone can say he was a ducker, it was never enough for a certain group of Mexicans, who wanted to see him in a bloody brawl every fight.

[fists of fury]

Intelligent.

[BENNY BLANCO]

I may make some sly remarks about Oscar but the man was one hell of a fighter who faced and beat some very good to great fighters.

[la-califa]

LOL, You act like there is some hatred between Puerto Ricans and Mexicans? You forgot to add he married a Puerto Rican too. :lol: THere is a strong competitive angle, but I dont see the hatred. If anything its more the Mexicans who try to spin everything out of proportion. They didnt like ODLH not because he fought Mexicans early on, but because of his clean Golden Boy (not 100% Mexican) image, and the fact he was one of the first marquee Mexican fighters that wasnt a blood and guts warrior and was open about fighting smarter which angered many Mexicans.
Regardless of who he fought, and he noone can say he was a ducker, it was never enough for a certain group of Mexicans, who wanted to see him in a bloody brawl every fight. No not hatred, Boxing rivals. Puerto Rican & Mexican fans have earned more than eachothers respect. Miguel Canto & Salvador Sanchez changed the Mexican stereotypical Left Hooking basher, long before Oscar came around.

[round15]

Was he lucky against Trinidad or in the second Mosley fight?

In the Trinidad fight, not to be harsh, but I'll say Oscar was dumb, just like Ken Norton in the third Ali fight for coasting in the last round. He should have closed out the show in proper fashion, but he let Felix tee-off on him, but I will admit that Delahoya should have been given the decision victory in that fight. He was robbed there.

Against Mosley in the second fight, what people fail to realize is the body shots that Shane landed in the clinches when both fighters flurried. This is one of the main reasons Oscar clearly lost to Mayweather. A lot of the shots that you don't see are the crisp body shots that both Shane and Floyd threw, especially when Delahoya was coming in. Another reason, moreso in the Mayweather fight is that the judges actually paid attention to the action inside the ring, rather than paying attention to the crowd noise and hooplah for every punch Delahoya threw which was blocked by Floyd.

Believe what you'll believe, but I know I'm not alone when talking about Oscar's gift decisions. Regardless of what happened in the last round against Quartey of which Mitch Halpern did a fantastic job paying attention to the action, I couldn't count enough rounds that Delahoya won. The right hand shot that Quartey landed in round 9 was one of the hardest punches that Delahoya absorbed. Jim Lampley in the commentary validated Delahoya being behind in the scorecards when he said "going into the last three rounds, Oscar Delahoya is in trouble." Oscar even shook his head in frustration and doubt after the 9th round.

Pernell beat up Oscar worse than Floyd did, and the Felix Sturm decision is still one of the biggest black eyes that the sport has had to absorb on the basis of Delahoya's popularity.

[essexboy]

In the Trinidad fight, not to be harsh, but I'll say Oscar was dumb, just like Ken Norton in the third Ali fight for coasting in the last round. He should have closed out the show in proper fashion, but he let Felix tee-off on him, but I will admit that Delahoya should have been given the decision victory in that fight. He was robbed there.

Against Mosley in the second fight, what people fail to realize is the body shots that Shane landed in the clinches when both fighters flurried. This is one of the main reasons Oscar clearly lost to Mayweather. A lot of the shots that you don't see are the crisp body shots that both Shane and Floyd threw, especially when Delahoya was coming in. Another reason, moreso in the Mayweather fight is that the judges actually paid attention to the action inside the ring, rather than paying attention to the crowd noise and hooplah for every punch Delahoya threw which was blocked by Floyd.

Believe what you'll believe, but I know I'm not alone when talking about Oscar's gift decisions. Regardless of what happened in the last round against Quartey of which Mitch Halpern did a fantastic job paying attention to the action, I couldn't count enough rounds that Delahoya won. The right hand shot that Quartey landed in round 9 was one of the hardest punches that Delahoya absorbed. Jim Lampley in the commentary validated Delahoya being behind in the scorecards when he said "going into the last three rounds, Oscar Delahoya is in trouble." Oscar even shook his head in frustration and doubt after the 9th round.

Pernell beat up Oscar worse than Floyd did, and the Felix Sturm decision is still one of the biggest black eyes that the sport has had to absorb on the basis of Delahoya's popularity.

My scorecards in Oscar fights:
vs Whitaker 113-113 Even
vs Quartey 114-113 Quartey
vs Trinidad 116-112 DLH
vs Mosley I 115-113 Mosley
vs Mosley II 117-111 DLH
vs Sturm 116-112 Sturm
vs Mayweather Jr 115-113 PBF

Anyone disagree with those?

[WhataRock]

Seriously? Why?


Said blacks cant take it the body...but in response to some racially toned comments from Whitaker.

Called Arum one of the "biggest Jews from Harvard" or something like that.

He really doesnt sound anymore racist then me though..just stirring shit.

[teeto]

My scorecards in Oscar fights:
vs Whitaker 113-113 Even
vs Quartey 114-113 Quartey
vs Trinidad 116-112 DLH
vs Mosley I 115-113 Mosley
vs Mosley II 117-111 DLH
vs Sturm 116-112 Sturm
vs Mayweather Jr 115-113 PBF

Anyone disagree with those?
Agree on the result of every single one.

[he grant]

Loaded.

[essexboy]

Agree on the result of every single one.

Great minds think alike. :good

[teeto]

Great minds think alike. :good

:DMost definitely. Funny that though, there's some really controversial ones in there and i had exactly the same as you, even the draw.

[PbP Bacon]

Significant

To the history and development of boxing. Those who dislike Oscar would disagree, but I think he has been really important for the sport over the last 15 years. The amount of fan interest he created in the 90s, the admirable way he has always sought the best opponents, his graciousness and eloquence outside of the ring, his contribution to the marginalization of Don King, I just think the guy has been a major positive force.


The weird thing is : I don't disagree with your post, but for me ODLH is still overrated as a fighter.

Sure, from a business and marketing point of view, ODLH is probably second to none.

Considering how many sad cases we have seen of fighters who left the ring ruined in every possible sense , ODLH is refreshing contrast. An extremely smart, responsible, and business-savy guy who made the most of his career.

And sure, he is a very good fighter, one of the best of his generation... but he is not that good.

He is still overrrated in my book :deal


And those were exactly 100 words :D

[essexboy]

The weird thing is : I don't disagree with your post, but for me ODLH is still overrated as a fighter.

Sure, from a business and marketing point of view, ODLH is probably second to none.

Considering how many sad cases we have seen of fighters who left the ring ruined in every possible sense , ODLH is refreshing contrast. An extremely smart, responsible, and business-savy guy who made the most of his career.

And sure, he is a very good fighter, one of the best of his generation... but he is not that good.

He is still overrrated in my book :deal


And those were exactly 100 words :D

Did you count business-savvy as one word? I dont think it is so its 101. Alos you need locking up and so do I. I hope you dont do that after every post, your gonna get me at it now.