View Full Version : Murray-Thaxton RBR thread (legal stream inside)
Coverage starts on ITV4 at 8.00pm.
If you can't watch it on tv for whatever reason here's the live stream: [Only registered and activated users can see links]
Predictions?
I think Murray in around 8, most likely a corner or ref stoppage. However, Thaxton has one punch KO power at this level - something Murray's previous opponents (McAllister, Lawton and Meager) didn't. That could make it interesting.
They're calling this fight 'Overdue'. Well who's fault is that Mick? You could have made this fight ages ago.
Undercard looks pretty naff though we might get to see Richard Towers. A 6ft8 HW trained by the Ingles.
BoroBoxing1
10-03-2009, 02:08 PM
Murray inside 6 rounds unless he doesnt walk on to a big shot.
DOM5153
10-03-2009, 02:08 PM
i think it will be all guns blazing for around 5 rounds, thaxton then gets nackered and gets KOd
'Ben'
10-03-2009, 02:11 PM
Coverage starts on ITV4 at 8.00pm.
If you can't watch it on tv for whatever reason here's the live stream: [Only registered and activated users can see links]
Predictions?
I think Murray in around 8, most likely a corner or ref stoppage. However, Thaxton has one punch KO power at this level - something Murray's previous opponents (McAllister, Lawton and Meager) didn't. That could make it interesting.
They're calling this fight 'Overdue'. Well who's fault is that Mick? You could have made this fight ages ago.
Undercard looks pretty naff though we might get to see Richard Towers. A 6ft8 HW trained by the Ingles.
Agree whith what you are saying in regards to fat Mick.... I've never liked him and that everyone seems to be slagging him off it's sending me on a mad one!
Froch needs to leave this pretender quick time.
Beeston Brawler
10-03-2009, 02:31 PM
Murray is 1/5 by stoppage on Betfair :nut
Bodysnatcher
10-03-2009, 02:32 PM
I lost ITV4 in all that re-tuning business, so it's the stream for me.
Trenaman
10-03-2009, 02:39 PM
If i cant get a pic on line and it says errors on page any ideas what i need to do? aside from watch it on tv!
Blueboy
10-03-2009, 02:54 PM
Murray by stoppage between rounds 6 and 8 I reckon
Its a shame this fight didn't take place 12 months ago - the fact that Thaxton has lost a few on the bounce has soured it a little in my eyes
GazOC
10-03-2009, 02:59 PM
Any decent fights on from America tonight?
GazOC
10-03-2009, 03:02 PM
Jim Rosenthal straight in there with a fuck up in his very first sentence!!
BILLY NELSONS PROSPECT KRIS HUGHES IS FIRST UP ,WAS FOR SOME SORT OF REGIONAL TITLE .this should be agood fight
GazOC
10-03-2009, 03:07 PM
BILLY NELSONS PROSPECT KRIS HUGHES IS FIRST UP ,WAS FOR SOME SORT OF REGIONAL TITLE .this should be agood fight
Thanks for the tip Alba, I'm not well up (to say the least!) on either of the boxers in the first fight.
Any decent fights on from America tonight?
Nope. This is the action tonight:
At Veracruz, Mexico: Tomas Rojas vs. Evans Mbamba, 12 rounds, for Rojas' WBC interim junior bantamweight title
At Montreal: Antonin Decarie vs. Terrance Cauthen, 12 rounds, welterweights; Dierry Jean vs. Sergio Eduardo Gonzalez, 8 rounds, junior welterweights; David Lemieux vs. Donny McCrary, 8 rounds, middleweights; Eleider Alvarez vs. Willard Lewis, 4 rounds, light heavyweights; Oscar Rivas vs. Stephane Tessier, 4 rounds, heavyweights At Donetsk, Ukraine: Vyacheslav Senchenko vs. Motoki Sasaki, 12 rounds, for Senchenko's WBA "regular" welterweight title; Oleg Yefimovich vs. Esham Pickering, 12 rounds, for Yefimovich's European featherweight title; Vladimir Kravets vs. Beka Sadjaia, 12 rounds, junior welterweights; Yago Kiladze vs. Isroil Kurbonov, 10 rounds, cruiserweights
At TBA, Mexico: Omar Narvaez vs. Victor Zaleta, 12 rounds, for Narvaez's WBO flyweight title
(that's all from ESPN's boxing sched)
John18
10-03-2009, 03:08 PM
can't get the stream to work. help!!!
Thanks for the tip Alba, I'm not well up (to say the least!) on either of the boxers in the first fight.
he normally fights at super bantamweight,and this is up at featherweight.dai davies is the current wels champ ..
If i cant get a pic on line and it says errors on page any ideas what i need to do? aside from watch it on tv!
refresh? Try a diff browser? not sure tbh mate.
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Did they say what time the main event will be?
Little Tyson
10-03-2009, 03:09 PM
Thank you for the stream cant get it on my TV atm for some odd reason been retuning it like mad.
safc1990
10-03-2009, 03:10 PM
What time is Murray-Thaxton scheduled to start lads?
GazOC
10-03-2009, 03:12 PM
John, if youre using IE try Firefox (its only a short download), if you're already using Firefox try IE.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 03:13 PM
What time is Murray-Thaxton scheduled to start lads?
Around 9:15
John18
10-03-2009, 03:14 PM
have tried firefox and opera. thanks though.
You got all the plugins installed John? You need Flash and something called Microsoft Silverlight IIRC.
also jeff thomas is in hughes corner as is kevin maree!
GazOC
10-03-2009, 03:17 PM
also jeff thomas is in hughes corner as is kevin maree!
LOL! Just seen Jeff!
Is that a Welsh top he's in?
jc333
10-03-2009, 03:20 PM
What a shot!
LOL! Just seen Jeff!
Is that a Welsh top he's in?
ha ha ,a good job there ... didnt expect that!
John18
10-03-2009, 03:20 PM
cheers ishy, working on it
Dan684
10-03-2009, 03:22 PM
was that a fucking dive ??
Blueboy
10-03-2009, 03:22 PM
Not a bad knockout to start proceedings!
Tyson Fury's cousin up next?
DOM5153
10-03-2009, 03:22 PM
goddam load, shitty freeview, shity stream
nufc16
10-03-2009, 03:23 PM
wow. that was the most brutal ko ive seen from a guy with zero ko's going into a fight
John18
10-03-2009, 03:27 PM
still not working. fuck it.
Harry Chibber
10-03-2009, 03:28 PM
wow. that was the most brutal ko ive seen from a guy with zero ko's going into a fight
brutal?? He seemed to hit the glove first and there wasn't a great connection. He did look sharp though, I'm looking forward to seeing more of him
DOM5153
10-03-2009, 03:31 PM
someone help ive got a blank screen now
GazOC
10-03-2009, 03:32 PM
Clarke is a star!! He keeps asking questions and then taking the mic away when Fury tries to answer them!!
jimcox88
10-03-2009, 03:34 PM
good move from tyson training with mccracken
venezuwela (sp) fury!ha ha
calumbo
10-03-2009, 03:35 PM
VENEZUELA FURY!!!!
heard it all now haha
DOM5153
10-03-2009, 03:35 PM
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
punchdrunkgench
10-03-2009, 03:36 PM
this stream is shit it dont work ive opened it with ie firefox and everything else barring a fukin can openner and still its blank
AffectedToaster
10-03-2009, 03:36 PM
Coverage starts on ITV4 at 8.00pm.
If you can't watch it on tv for whatever reason here's the live stream: [Only registered and activated users can see links]
Predictions?
I think Murray in around 8, most likely a corner or ref stoppage. However, Thaxton has one punch KO power at this level - something Murray's previous opponents (McAllister, Lawton and Meager) didn't. That could make it interesting.
They're calling this fight 'Overdue'. Well who's fault is that Mick? You could have made this fight ages ago.
Undercard looks pretty naff though we might get to see Richard Towers. A 6ft8 HW trained by the Ingles.
Streams not working for me, is ITV's stream one that only works in the UK?
DOM5153
10-03-2009, 03:37 PM
ive got a constant loading screen
calumbo
10-03-2009, 03:37 PM
phil "i know, you know, we know" Goodwinn
What are we supposed to know?!
ashedward
10-03-2009, 03:38 PM
I think two weeks is to soon for Fury,i like him being busy but he will keep on getting silly injuries if he carries on like this.
John18
10-03-2009, 03:39 PM
Change the title of this thread to say "with worst ever stream"
toffeejack
10-03-2009, 03:39 PM
Interesting quote from Tyson Fury.
"I've been training with Carl Froch working on my balance and defence"
Not a great move then really :lol:
GazOC
10-03-2009, 03:39 PM
ive got a constant loading screen
Same here. I think may be overloaded.
DOM5153
10-03-2009, 03:40 PM
ok im getting more and more pissed off as the minutes pass by, anyone got a different stream???
Blueboy
10-03-2009, 03:41 PM
Interesting quote from Tyson Fury.
"I've been training with Carl Froch working on my balance and defence"
Not a great move then really :lol:
:lol:
Hardly the best role model to help improve your defence!
Interesting quote from Tyson Fury.
"I've been training with Carl Froch working on my balance and defence"
Not a great move then really :lol:
:rofl
That's akin to learning the art of undertaking from a clown.
Boro chris
10-03-2009, 03:42 PM
Interesting quote from Tyson Fury.
"I've been training with Carl Froch working on my balance and defence"
Not a great move then really :lol:
oh dear.
Harry Chibber
10-03-2009, 03:44 PM
I honestly can't see how anyone can complain about sky's coverage.. when you have muppets like Rosenthal and Clarke on ITV
Wickio
10-03-2009, 03:45 PM
Interesting quote from Tyson Fury.
"I've been training with Carl Froch working on my balance and defence"
Not a great move then really :lol:
Must be looking for that "Floyd Mayweather style" defense. :lol:
When's the fight start lads?
ashedward
10-03-2009, 03:49 PM
Around 9:15
GazOC
10-03-2009, 03:50 PM
9:15
Blueboy
10-03-2009, 03:51 PM
I honestly can't see how anyone can complain about sky's coverage.. when you have muppets like Rosenthal and Clarke on ITV
I quite like the unpredictablity of Gabriel Clarke roaming around back stage and turning up (what often seems to be) unannounced in the dressing rooms - maybe its the novelty factor but I think its one of the highlights of ITV4's coverage. The look on some of the faces when he just barges through the door and starts throwing his mic under the noses of the fighters/trainers :yep
Wickio
10-03-2009, 03:55 PM
Around 9:15
9:15
Cheers both. :good
Harry Chibber
10-03-2009, 03:57 PM
I quite like the unpredictablity of Gabriel Clarke roaming around back stage and turning up (what often seems to be) unannounced in the dressing rooms - maybe its the novelty factor but I think its one of the highlights of ITV4's coverage. The look on some of the faces when he just barges through the door and starts throwing his mic under the noses of the fighters/trainers :yep
He walked straight past Hughes and didn't even acknowledge him.. he's a muppet
GazOC
10-03-2009, 03:58 PM
He walked straight past Hughes and didn't even acknowledge him.. he's a muppet
Yeah, saw that!!:patsch
Clarke is embarrassing.
This fight is a snoozer.
LB3000
10-03-2009, 03:59 PM
Interesting quote from Tyson Fury.
"I've been training with Carl Froch working on my balance and defence"
Not a great move then really :lol: :rofl
ashedward
10-03-2009, 04:00 PM
It`s a shame Andy Kerr isn`t doing the interviews tonight imo.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 04:01 PM
Time to get the first Carling out of the fridge. Cheers lads!!
GazOC
10-03-2009, 04:05 PM
Carling :dead
What can I say? I'm a man of simple tastes....
Late stoppage for Murray I think.
Thaxton is tough, but he tires. Especially under this onslaught.
I'll be interested to see how Murray's defence holds up. Thaxton's timing has been abismal recently, Murray has to be able to show he can cut the ring off without taking punches in a fight like this, if he wants to progress further.
For Thaxton I think its pretty much try to land a big uppercut/left hook. I don't see his straight punches putting a dent in Murray. He needs to knock him out.
:rofl Clarke is brilliant
safc1990
10-03-2009, 04:07 PM
Why do I get the feeling that Stone Cold Steve Austin film will be shit?
On to my 2nd can of Carlsberg Export, drowning my sorrows. Was that Billy Graham in Murray's changing room?
Clarke :lol::lol:
BURNLEYBLUE
10-03-2009, 04:08 PM
from the look of your avvy your taste is far from simple mate
GazOC
10-03-2009, 04:09 PM
from the look of your avvy your taste is far from simple mate
|Cheers!
Shrewd_dude
10-03-2009, 04:10 PM
Thaxton 10/1 on Betfair. Crazy!!
McGrain
10-03-2009, 04:13 PM
Fuck it, I would love Thaxton to fucking sneak it.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 04:14 PM
Thaxton 10/1 on Betfair. Crazy!!
I agree, given the styles theres always the chance Murray will walk forward into a bomb from Thaxton.
Boro chris
10-03-2009, 04:15 PM
Streams fucked. Oh well! Monty Python doc's a good alternative!
I think Thaxton has to knock him out in the first 6 rounds really.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 04:19 PM
I think Thaxton has to knock him out in the first 6 rounds really.
yeah, may be even sooner than that. Murrays pressure should start to tell as soon as the fight calms down.
McGrain
10-03-2009, 04:19 PM
I think Thaxton has to knock him out in the first 6 rounds really.
If that happens he'll then have to knock out his wife to be allowed to take another fight, by the looks.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 04:25 PM
Great ring music from Thaxton!
McGrain
10-03-2009, 04:25 PM
How can anyone boo that man? Seems like his choice of song chilled everyone the fuck out. He's a great little fighter. He was the man. I hope he can turn it on one more time.
hitman_hatton1
10-03-2009, 04:25 PM
'i did it mmmyyyyyy [Only registered and activated users can see links]' :happy
Great ring music from Thaxton!
You are into Black Eyed Peas? ;)
Barney the dinosaur announcing
GazOC
10-03-2009, 04:29 PM
You are into Black Eyed Peas? ;)
I'd like to be into Fergie (not SAF!) if that counts?
Mattf450
10-03-2009, 04:32 PM
Come on Jono son do or die son!
GazOC
10-03-2009, 04:33 PM
10-9 Jono
McGrain
10-03-2009, 04:33 PM
First round to Thaxton, though I bet one plus judges didn't give it to him. Think it'll make the cards boys?
D-MAC
10-03-2009, 04:33 PM
Thaxton 10-9
jc333
10-03-2009, 04:33 PM
Thaxton 10-9
Very very cautious from Murray.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 04:34 PM
First round to Thaxton, though I bet one plus judges didn't give it to him. Think it'll make the cards boys?
In a word..No
Shit, Thaxton's resistance not looking too good.
This ain't gonna be a contest. If its like this in the second Thaxton needs a miracle punch.
McGrain
10-03-2009, 04:36 PM
Shit, Thaxton's resistance not looking too good.
Well he's not got his balance back, but he's not went gunshy or froze or anything like that, still slipping shots.
D-MAC
10-03-2009, 04:37 PM
Thaxton 10-9
Murray 10-9
GazOC
10-03-2009, 04:37 PM
Big round for Murray.
19-19
Well he's not got his balance back, but he's not went gunshy or froze or anything like that, still slipping shots.
First punch landed though...I wouldn't even say the right cross is Murray's best punch.
Can't see Jono dropping Murray he has tightened his defence since that last fight
jc333
10-03-2009, 04:37 PM
Good round.
Murray 10-9
D.Haye-no1-p4p
10-03-2009, 04:38 PM
Thaxton has no defence whatsoever, Murray can land that right hand whenever he wants.
Mattf450
10-03-2009, 04:38 PM
Hate the bloody adverts wanna hear what the corner says
McGrain
10-03-2009, 04:39 PM
First punch landed though...I wouldn't even say the right cross is Murray's best punch.
And it wasn't that crisp but I don't think the banging left that followed it up helped much. And that man is tough, tough.
Murray's a beast. Nothing affects him.
If only he had more effective footwork.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 04:41 PM
29-28 Murray.
"He's gone again!"....good old Duke!!
Too much wasted movement from Thaxton.
jc333
10-03-2009, 04:41 PM
Another round for Murray. He is being very controlled.
jimcox88
10-03-2009, 04:41 PM
murray showing great compusure
D-MAC
10-03-2009, 04:41 PM
Thaxton 10-9
Murray 10-9
Murray 10-9
Murray looks like he is gonna stop him.
hitman_hatton1
10-03-2009, 04:41 PM
murray's fight.
just a case of when. :roll:
Thaxton is ridiculously easy to hit. :-(
McGrain
10-03-2009, 04:44 PM
Shit stoppage.
D-MAC
10-03-2009, 04:44 PM
Bollox stoppage:twisted:
Antwuan Maxx
10-03-2009, 04:44 PM
Not a great stoppage...
Mattf450
10-03-2009, 04:44 PM
We all know what would have happened but that was a very early stoppage in my opinion
jc333
10-03-2009, 04:45 PM
That seemed a bit of a quick stoppage.
Oh for fucks sake. Brit refs are the absolute worst for this.
McGrain
10-03-2009, 04:45 PM
Guy is a proffessional warrior who had a wobble in his leg. He was hurt but that is a fucking disgrace.
cjgloves
10-03-2009, 04:45 PM
Over, it was a mis match.
Thaxton needed to stop or else it would of ended in brutaly.
jc333
10-03-2009, 04:45 PM
To be fair, there was only ever going to be one winner.
nufc16
10-03-2009, 04:46 PM
what a fucking shit stoppage. really really bad.
Wickio
10-03-2009, 04:46 PM
Inevitable result, but too early a stoppage for me. Poor Jono.
hitman_hatton1
10-03-2009, 04:46 PM
too early.
murray was gonna get to him though.
should have let it play out a bit more.
Jolly Roger
10-03-2009, 04:46 PM
Bullshit stoppage.
I tell you what though, unless my guy has exceptional movement I would NOT be looking to put him in with John Murray. The guy is like terminator in there. Basic yes, effective hell yes.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 04:46 PM
It looked premature at first look but after seeing the replay I think it was probably the right thing to do.
felix
10-03-2009, 04:47 PM
commentating was a joke and so was stoppage. could have at least gave him a chance.
jimcox88
10-03-2009, 04:47 PM
youd rather see jono hurt?
good call by the ref in my opinion common sense pervails
timber
10-03-2009, 04:47 PM
have you heard the chants from murray fans...idiots
Well, its better than the beating Shane Cameron took this morning. But still, too soon. The only thing I can say for it is Thaxton was getting hurt too frequently.
jc333
10-03-2009, 04:47 PM
Thaxton deserved a bit more than that, he has been a good boxer for a long time. I feel quite sorry for him.
Little Tyson
10-03-2009, 04:48 PM
To early but was inevatiable. Well done Murray.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 04:48 PM
Gutted for Thaxton not getting his Londale to keep. Real shame as he deserves it.
Pug1list
10-03-2009, 04:48 PM
Nice euro-level competitor Murray.
hitman_hatton1
10-03-2009, 04:48 PM
I tell you what though, unless my guy has exceptional movement I would NOT be looking to put him in with John Murray. The guy is like terminator in there. Basic yes, effective hell yes.
effective at a level.
still not sure.
poor man's ricky hatton for me.
no disgrace in that of course.
we'll see. :yep
mike464
10-03-2009, 04:49 PM
Worst stoppage I've ever seen. How many great fights would we have missed if they were stopped as soon as one guy was wobbled?
cjgloves
10-03-2009, 04:49 PM
youd rather see jono hurt?
good call by the ref in my opinion common sense pervails
:good
Murray is a beast though, I would crap myself being in the ring with him.
Hard to believe jono doesn't already have one
Jolly Roger
10-03-2009, 04:49 PM
commentating was a joke and so was stoppage. could have at least gave him a chance.
Every time this happens they defend the referee, jokers.
ScouseLad
10-03-2009, 04:49 PM
Probably to early in general but if you take Thaxton's career into account and the fact his punch resistance is on the dwindle big time, it was fair imo. Shame to see though, I never like see the end of fighters but thats boxing!
Grant1
10-03-2009, 04:50 PM
Couldn't watch fight, and I don't think Jono is a good guide anymore, but how far do you's all think Murray can go?
GazOC
10-03-2009, 04:50 PM
Hard to believe jono doesn't already have one
Yeah, I was surprised.
McGrain
10-03-2009, 04:50 PM
youd rather see jono hurt?
But guys say this every time there is a premature stoppage. Of course not, nobody wants that, but frankly, he looked like he was going to get hurt a minute into the second round. Why not stop it then?
Thaxton got hit by a decent punch and he retreated to the ropes. He wasn't getting beaten there at the point the referee stepped in, nor was he given any kind of time to recover. He wanted to fight on and his diligance in his trianing camp plus his heart means he should be allowed to do so.
Also, the stoppage did not comply with the rules of boxing. "Unable to continue" my backside. British title fights used to carry the same weight in the ring as world title fights do now. There's no reason they couldn't again, but bullshit like this doesn't help.
hitman_hatton1
10-03-2009, 04:50 PM
Nice euro-level competitor Murray.
yeah he's solid and dependable.
is it gonna be enough to win world titles and stay there.
don't think so meself. :nono
very competitive at lightweight and light welter.
always lots of talent around and coming thru. :bbb
jordan1
10-03-2009, 04:50 PM
Murray is the man, great job Murray!!!! :good
Pug1list
10-03-2009, 04:50 PM
was a bad stoppage, oh the ref could see that it would end badly, why not stop it in the 1st round then.
safc1990
10-03-2009, 04:50 PM
Joke of a stoppage
ashedward
10-03-2009, 04:51 PM
Great performance by murray, showed really good composure.The stoppage was premature, but it was sad to see Thaxton being hit so easy and getting hurt.
McGrain
10-03-2009, 04:51 PM
Couldn't watch fight, and I don't think Jono is a good guide anymore, but how far do you's all think Murray can go?
Unknown. He looks organised and patient on top of his obvious gifts. He'll stand or fall based on what's underneath the concrete. Guy needs to come with Joe Frazier if he's going to make it at the highest level.
HairyHighlander
10-03-2009, 04:52 PM
Hard to believe jono doesn't already have one
True, i presumed he had one, be it one way or another.
Thaxton, a LEGEND of British Boxing, in the ring and out.
Great great guy.
felix
10-03-2009, 04:53 PM
Fights that end like this piss me off.
ScouseLad
10-03-2009, 04:53 PM
How patronising is this interview?!
jc333
10-03-2009, 04:54 PM
Jono made a good point about Khan being allowed to continue....
Poor mans Ricky Hatton maybe, but Hatton is a world class fighter.
Murray is probably the best lightweight in Europe right now.
HairyHighlander
10-03-2009, 04:55 PM
Unknown. He looks organised and patient on top of his obvious gifts. He'll stand or fall based on what's underneath the concrete. Guy needs to come with Joe Frazier if he's going to make it at the highest level.
Watching him tonight, i thought of Kats, dunno why..........then i thought of Kats Vs. Murray :D
chesh
10-03-2009, 04:55 PM
Murray looked great, but that stoppage was too early.
ScouseLad
10-03-2009, 04:55 PM
Murray mentioned Katsidis, that'd be a watch! Fucking hell.
Pug1list
10-03-2009, 04:56 PM
I don't know what the game plan was, but he wouldn't have lasted to the later rounds at the rate it was going.
trotter
10-03-2009, 04:56 PM
Too early. Only saved Thaxton from the inevitable but that's not the point
Murray was impressive, he has looked better lately after hitting a bit of a flat spot
He was throwing nice combinations there and he lets his punches go really well, he spots the opening and throws, very instinctive..
rothwell
10-03-2009, 04:56 PM
Bullshit stoppage.
Thaxton would have probably been stopped but no reason to stop it there. Like others have said, why not stop it in the 2nd when he got wobbled?
Pug1list
10-03-2009, 04:56 PM
Katsidis would be too much for him.
toffeejack
10-03-2009, 04:56 PM
Bit premature but it was inevitable he would have got stopped soon after it no doubt.
mike464
10-03-2009, 04:57 PM
In a British title fight one guy gets wobbled and they stop it? Amir Khan was allowed to take punches until he almost had to be peeled off the canvas and that was a non-title fight. I wish referees and judges (O'Connor in particular) wouldn't go into fights already having made up their minds about what's going to happen.
toffeejack
10-03-2009, 04:57 PM
Murray and Katsidis would be an all out war!
Murray could beat Katsidis, no doubt about it. He's capable of it.
felix
10-03-2009, 04:58 PM
These two guys shouldn't have even fought going by the ref and commentators views.
HairyHighlander
10-03-2009, 04:58 PM
Too early. Only saved Thaxton from the inevitable but that's not the point
Murray was impressive, he has looked better lately after hitting a bit of a flat spot
He was throwing nice combinations there and he lets his punches go really well, he spots the opening and throws, very instinctive..
Yep, he was minimal but very precise when letting go.
Fought well, it was premature especially given Thaxtons experience AND he does have above average power, so he always got the punchers chance.
Bottom line, he wasnt taking a beating at the the point of stoppage.
nufc16
10-03-2009, 04:58 PM
hate the way they try to justify shit stoppages like that by saying he was saving the guy from a bad beating. thats boxing for fucks sake. not like he was getting pummelled on the ground, the guy got wobbled. if a fighter gets knocked out badly that's the risk they take.
Murray could beat Katsidis, no doubt about it. He's capable of it.
Would like to see if Murray can take what he gives first mate. Can't really remember seeing Murray caught with a killer blow before. Would be a good fight while it lasts.
nufc16
10-03-2009, 05:00 PM
would like to see how murray holds up against a non shot puncher. he takes alot of shots to walk people down, and while he's shown a good chin so far, for that style to go beyond European level, he's going to need a hell of a chin.
hate the way they try to justify shit stoppages like that by saying he was saving the guy from a bad beating. thats boxing for fucks sake. not like he was getting pummelled on the ground, the guy got wobbled. if a fighter gets knocked out badly that's the risk they take.
You can understand it from McGuigan, but they are over doing it he was taking punishment but nothing severe
HairyHighlander
10-03-2009, 05:01 PM
Katsidis would be too much for him.
Kats would own him :lol:
I didnt wanna piss on the parade by saying as much.
Anyways, well done to Murray, fought very well and am sure in some ways he would of liked to have "finished" it rather than how it was.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 05:01 PM
I can see both sides, it looked a little early to me but its hard to justify saying "it was too early but Thaxton was def. going to get KO'd" even if it is correct within the letter of the law.
Probably on balance a British title fight should have gone a little longer.
McGrain
10-03-2009, 05:02 PM
Murray could beat Katsidis, no doubt about it. He's capable of it.
It wouldn't be my pick though, I don't think.
calumbo
10-03-2009, 05:02 PM
gabriel clarke is awesome!!!
Hes like the chris kamara of boxing!
felix
10-03-2009, 05:03 PM
Murray has won the best title he can!
D-MAC
10-03-2009, 05:03 PM
But guys say this every time there is a premature stoppage. Of course not, nobody wants that, but frankly, he looked like he was going to get hurt a minute into the second round. Why not stop it then?
Thaxton got hit by a decent punch and he retreated to the ropes. He wasn't getting beaten there at the point the referee stepped in, nor was he given any kind of time to recover. He wanted to fight on and his diligance in his trianing camp plus his heart means he should be allowed to do so.
Also, the stoppage did not comply with the rules of boxing. "Unable to continue" my backside. British title fights used to carry the same weight in the ring as world title fights do now. There's no reason they couldn't again, but bullshit like this doesn't help.
Exactly.
If Thaxton had have fell back on the ropes and Murray opened up on him, then the ref could call it off stating that Thaxton was not fighting back, BUT only if it was a sustained burst AND some of the punches landed AND Thaxton was visibly in distress.
Murray looked like he was gonna get the stoppage anyway, but the ref should have let it play out a bit more and seen what developed.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 05:03 PM
Murray has won the best title he can!
He's good enough to get a Euro title if thats the route he decides to take.
McGrain
10-03-2009, 05:04 PM
I can see both sides, it looked a little early to me but its hard to justify saying "it was too early but Thaxton was def. going to get KO'd" even if it is correct within the letter of the law.
Probably on balance a British title fight should have gone a little longer.
Or a LOT longer. We're talking like we know what was going to happen next but listening to Thax., if you believe him, they were looking at a late surge. British title fight. You RESCUE a fighter at that level, you do NOT protect him. Fighters are responsible enough to do that for themselves by training with diligence and protecting themselves at all times in keeping with their stature.
Bullshit stoppage.
Pug1list
10-03-2009, 05:04 PM
He can win the euro
GazOC
10-03-2009, 05:04 PM
Jimmy Bullard up next!!
ScouseLad
10-03-2009, 05:05 PM
Philll Faaaaaaaaaaaa urrreeeeeeeee
hitman_hatton1
10-03-2009, 05:05 PM
the fights on ppv in a couple of weeks.
yeah cos u bastards didn't get ya fingers out and buy it. :twisted:
trotter
10-03-2009, 05:06 PM
would like to see how murray holds up against a non shot puncher. he takes alot of shots to walk people down, and while he's shown a good chin so far, for that style to go beyond European level, he's going to need a hell of a chin.
He does. He has what looks like a tight, high guard but I think you can hit straight through it.
And while he did well tonight, Thaxton basically offered his chin up on a plate... no defence at all.
Loved Murray's work, but I don't think Thaxton was much of a test
HairyHighlander
10-03-2009, 05:06 PM
Murray could beat Katsidis, no doubt about it. He's capable of it.
So was Thaxton on paper tonight.
If he fought smart, as he did tonight maybe BUT he wouldnt, Kats will break him before he got them off or when he tried to.
I keep waiting for the Kats "slide" fight as he had so many wars, yet he just comes on even harder.
Jimmy Bullard up next!!
:rofl Thats who i thought of right away.
ScouseLad
10-03-2009, 05:07 PM
"Intense Phil Faaaaaa uuuuuureeeeee" Hahaha nice!
hitman_hatton1
10-03-2009, 05:07 PM
Jimmy Bullard up next!!
:yep
trotter
10-03-2009, 05:08 PM
I never thought I'd hear this said, but he's an UGLY Jimmy Bullard
Murray could beat Katsidis, no doubt about it. He's capable of it.
So was Thaxton on paper tonight.
If he fought smart, as he did tonight maybe BUT he wouldnt, Kats will break him before he got them off or when he tried to.
I keep waiting for the Kats "slide" fight as he had so many wars, yet he just comes on even harder.
I'm not convinced. I think Katsidis is more of a hooker than a straight puncher. Murray's biggest weakness is straight down the middle, his gloves are near his ears rather than his chin and he relies on reacting. I think Murray could see off a lot of Katsidis' attacks.
Broxi
10-03-2009, 05:08 PM
That's no haircut for a boxer Fury. More like Furry.
HairyHighlander
10-03-2009, 05:09 PM
He does. He has what looks like a tight, high guard but I think you can hit straight through it.
And while he did well tonight, Thaxton basically offered his chin up on a plate... no defence at all.
Loved Murray's work, but I don't think Thaxton was much of a test
Soon as he was rocked Thaxton had his hands down, rocked/ shocked.....but Murray did fight very very smartly.
Was sure he even got him a wee cheeky one in the first ( Murray )
I'm mesmerized by this jumping mop :lol:
HairyHighlander
10-03-2009, 05:09 PM
That's no haircut for a boxer Fury. More like Furry.
Fury pre fight interview was pretty good, now ya mention him, maybe the baby afterglow thing going on.
He was quite likeable.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 05:10 PM
Or a LOT longer. We're talking like we know what was going to happen next but listening to Thax., if you believe him, they were looking at a late surge. British title fight. You RESCUE a fighter at that level, you do NOT protect him. Fighters are responsible enough to do that for themselves by training with diligence and protecting themselves at all times in keeping with their stature.
Bullshit stoppage.
Well he's not going to say he was spent after 4 rounds is he?
The stoppage was a little premature but nothing too bad, McCracken summed it up the best. Thaxton had been getting tagged for 3 rounds and the stoppage seemed enevitable, a LITTLE longer (and a little longer was all it was going to take IMHO) would have been nice for a title fight and a warrior like Thaxton but thats about all.
calumbo
10-03-2009, 05:10 PM
fuck sake..
ITV will start a new reality tv show..
The furys ..
Tours round the local high class caravans..dog fighting with uncle fury..
The osbournes will look normal in comparison!
Broxi
10-03-2009, 05:12 PM
Soon as he was rocked Thaxton had his hands down, rocked/ shocked.....but Murray did fight very very smartly.
Was sure he even got him a wee cheeky one in the first ( Murray )
Well at the end of the day, Thaxton got punched in the face, if the ref had let it go on, who knows what could have happened? He might have ended up getting punched in the face again!! Couldn't have something like that happening.
What could the ref do?
Broxi
10-03-2009, 05:13 PM
Fury pre fight interview was pretty good, now ya mention him, maybe the baby afterglow thing going on.
He was quite likeable.
I like the Furies ... they're like the Addams Family of boxing.
HairyHighlander
10-03-2009, 05:14 PM
[quote=HairyHighlander;5085102]
I'm not convinced. I think Katsidis is more of a hooker than a straight puncher. Murray's biggest weakness is straight down the middle, his gloves are near his ears rather than his chin and he relies on reacting. I think Murray could see off a lot of Katsidis' attacks.
I nearly posted the other night that you have such a wealth of info on fighters its freaky TFFP, you could be a matchmaker.......just dont make this one anytime soon :D
True now you mention regarding toe to toe styles but Kats = BREAKAGE !!!
Murray would get broken down hooks to gloves or head or not......and then theres the shots down the middle, i could see him freezing with the epic aussie onslaught.
As said, aint pissing on the boy, he was great tonight, just seeing him tonight made me think of this bout.
:good
HairyHighlander
10-03-2009, 05:15 PM
Well at the end of the day, Thaxton got punched in the face, if the ref had let it go on, who knows what could have happened? He might have ended up getting punched in the face again!! Couldn't have something like that happening.
What could the ref do?
:lol:
:good
Jolly Roger
10-03-2009, 05:16 PM
Fact is he was always going to take alot of punishment in this fight, and probably lose. If they care so much about seeing him get hurt they should never have sanctioned the bloody thing. They were put together because we all knew it would make a brutal fight.
jimcox88
10-03-2009, 05:17 PM
fists of fury !! pretty witty duke
cjgloves
10-03-2009, 05:19 PM
'Hows ya balls?' haha
Broxi
10-03-2009, 05:21 PM
I have it even with the point deduction after 3 rds anyway.
Broxi
10-03-2009, 05:24 PM
Wow ... close round, I would have given Byrne that last round for the way he finished it actually.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 05:25 PM
Someone else who doesn't understand how points deductions work!!!
Its a deduction, not a point for the opponent.
This fight was shocking turn away now :lol:
jc333
10-03-2009, 05:26 PM
I had Fury losing 38 -37. A draw would have been fair too.
Dan684
10-03-2009, 05:27 PM
Fucking work :-( I had to set off to work at 21:15 and just arrived into work 5 minutes ago. Now I didn't watch a single punch thrown throughout the fight. I just arrived into work to see the cornermen consoling Thaxton. It showed the reply straight away and I was thinking WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT STOPPED FOR ??? I've seen it back and I still think the same thing. This wasn't a fight in which Thaxton was being constantly hurt from the highlights I saw. The punch that stumbled him back wasn't exactly a spiteful punch, it seemed a problem with his footing more than anything else, the other four shots, none of which touched him, didn't merit a stoppage.
Felt sorry for him at the end when he was in his corner. As soon as I saw that look I knew straight away he'll retire. He was crying too.
Rob McCracken made me laugh saying that Froch would start to take over later on :lol: Means he expects him to be getting outboxed :lol:
Fury family getting another 'jobbing' :-( How did that ref not give that other lad 1 single round :-( Even my boss at work knew he'd been beat - Like he said though Fury's Dad probably opened his jacket to show the ref his shotgun before the fight :lol:
KERRZO
10-03-2009, 05:29 PM
Joke that Fury punk just won a robbery. I felt he lost 38-37 but its OK if it dont happen tonight because very soon he will be exposed as he has nout by the looks of it and is just piggybacking off the Fury name.
Dan684
10-03-2009, 05:30 PM
ooooooh a real bonus for us........... A tyson Fury fight :lol:
:good
Broxi
10-03-2009, 05:30 PM
Someone else who doesn't understand how points deductions work!!!
Its a deduction, not a point for the opponent.
What do you mean?
Byrne won the 3rd round, so that means Phil had 29 points less 1 point deduction = 28 points
Byrne at this point has 9 + 9 + 10 = 28 points.
Beeston Brawler
10-03-2009, 05:30 PM
I think that other guy beat him.
Two rounds each..... then the deduction = 38-37.
Phill Golota will be exposed soon enough.
hitman_hatton1
10-03-2009, 05:31 PM
oh not another fury fight. :patsch
thank god match of the day starts in 5 minutes.
DAVEMAKER
10-03-2009, 05:32 PM
i think tyson fury needs a break, i think keeping active is great but he must be exhausted from all the training and fighting... deffo needs two months before his next fight
GazOC
10-03-2009, 05:34 PM
What do you mean?
Byrne won the 3rd round, so that means Phil had 29 points less 1 point deduction = 28 points
Byrne at this point has 9 + 9 + 10 = 28 points.
I meant the commentator. He said the only point awarded to Byrne was from the foul.
Broxi
10-03-2009, 05:39 PM
I meant the commentator. He said the only point awarded to Byrne was from the foul.
Oh right yeah, my bad ... too much wine tonight for me.
HairyHighlander
10-03-2009, 05:40 PM
i think tyson fury needs a break, i think keeping active is great but he must be exhausted from all the training and fighting... deffo needs two months before his next fight
Aye, i was surprised at this fight, the McD fight took a lot out of him, whether he or his team thought so or not.
I bet they know now, after this fight.
I aint a coach or pro or nowt but i was a bit surprised that given that the rematch was ordered, he went for this, no need.
Seemed like a pride thing to me, stupid.
Good performance from Murray but stoppage was too early. Felt really bad for Jonno, not saying he would have won but at least give the man a chance!
Beeston Brawler
10-03-2009, 05:53 PM
Although is was a bullshit stoppage, I must say I was impressed by Murray, who has finally won me over.
Not rushing in, picking his punches well, and not getting caught by anything stupid.
Murray has really come on since winning the Brit title (the first time). Meager, McAllister, Lawton and now Thaxton, all solid performances showing improvements each time.
Thought Murray would be too fresh for him. Weak stoppage though...
Grant1
10-03-2009, 06:37 PM
i think tyson fury needs a break, i think keeping active is great but he must be exhausted from all the training and fighting... deffo needs two months before his next fight
Aye, i was surprised at this fight, the McD fight took a lot out of him, whether he or his team thought so or not.
I bet they know now, after this fight.
I aint a coach or pro or nowt but i was a bit surprised that given that the rematch was ordered, he went for this, no need.
Seemed like a pride thing to me, stupid.
Lads, it's a repeat.
G.A.V.
10-03-2009, 06:49 PM
Absolutely disgusting decision in that Fury fight, somehow even worse than the one in McDermott vs. Tyson. Hennessy is an overprotecting fruit loop, I can't imagine the scorecards had Froch been fighting Taylor at home.
Harry Chibber
10-03-2009, 08:17 PM
But guys say this every time there is a premature stoppage. Of course not, nobody wants that, but frankly, he looked like he was going to get hurt a minute into the second round. Why not stop it then?
Thaxton got hit by a decent punch and he retreated to the ropes. He wasn't getting beaten there at the point the referee stepped in, nor was he given any kind of time to recover. He wanted to fight on and his diligance in his trianing camp plus his heart means he should be allowed to do so.
Also, the stoppage did not comply with the rules of boxing. "Unable to continue" my backside. British title fights used to carry the same weight in the ring as world title fights do now. There's no reason they couldn't again, but bullshit like this doesn't help.
Think you summed it up perfectly mate.
Yes Thaxton was caught and under the cosh at that point of the fight but he wasn't given any chance to recover by the ref. If Murray had landed with 1 or 2 clean punches while Thaxton was shaken, fair enough, but the ref never gave him the oppertunity to finish it off.... or give Thaxton the oppertunity to hold or pull away. Especially in a title fight these guys deserve the benefit of the doubt... they are trained professionals ffs! If I was Murray I'd be upset for not getting the chance to finish things properly and prove there was no ambiguity about the decision.
Thaxton, genuine legend and credit to the sport. All the best to him
As for Murray... his hand speed and reactions are brilliant but he wont get far if he doesn't start using some sort of jab. He just waited for Thaxton to come on to him, which worked well against a come forward fighter but when he gets a decent boxer he's in trouble. Khan would have him on what I saw tonight!
I'm looking forward to seeing him in some good tare up's at European level though :D
ITV coverage is a fucking joke! :twisted:
faisal
10-03-2009, 08:21 PM
tyson furys cousin reminds me of 1 of those inbred monstroseties from the movie wrong turn
Dan684
10-03-2009, 08:31 PM
Ha Ha ^^ Does he not just remind you of a fat baby ??? Or maybe the kid off 'Honey I Blew Up the Kid' :lol:
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faisal
10-03-2009, 08:39 PM
hes a weird looking cunt thats for sure
brown bomber
10-04-2009, 03:56 AM
Main event aside it was a poor card- kris Hughes did fantastic but it made me laugh when I was on the way in and the hennesey guy stopped me and started asking me loads of questions about my license credentials- I felt like saying 'come on pal- have u seen the bill?' if I was going totry and sneak into a show it wouldn't have been last nights one ;-)
Murray was sensational and quickly found that jonos reflexes were no more- he nailed him from the start with right crosses. Those who complained about the stoppage - it was always going to be fruitless for thaxton, he was just taking a hiding and hadn't landed a punch of note.
Hennessey promotions needs to rethink a few years back they had all the top am talents turn over with them, but with Murray, froch and fury only he's going to bestruggling very soon if one of them jumps ship and ihave a strong suspicion a hatton move is only a matter of time for murray! Hennessesy shows usedto be excellent!
HairyHighlander
10-04-2009, 10:58 AM
Lads, it's a repeat.
Just saw this, aye i know, cheers though :lol:
JT......seems a sensible move, regarding Murray.
Wondering now what his contract is atm with Henny.......
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