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cotto20
10-03-2009, 02:41 PM
Well????????????????
TheGreatA
10-03-2009, 03:37 PM
Yes.
Sweet Pea
10-03-2009, 03:56 PM
Yes.Oh?
cotto20
10-03-2009, 03:58 PM
Yes.

Really???:?

You know this how and have you seen it? what fight is it?
McGrain
10-03-2009, 04:00 PM
I understood it was otherwise but GreatA knows his film...speak up chum, what's the story?
Flea Man
10-03-2009, 04:04 PM
Is thread is from the guy who said the othe day 'anyone who knows boxing knows there is no footage of Greb' Cotto20 you are a contradictory cunt :good
SuzieQ49
10-03-2009, 04:09 PM
If he looks remotley anything like Jersey Joe, then he must be spectacular. Jersey Joe Walcott's footwork is gods gift to society!
TheGreatA
10-03-2009, 04:13 PM
There's no film of any fights of his but the question was whether there is any footage whatsoever and there is, a 4 minute clip of him talking to the camera.

Sorry to disappoint if I got anyone's hopes up. :good :lol:
McGrain
10-03-2009, 04:16 PM
There's no film of any fights of his but the question was whether there is any footage whatsoever and there is, a 4 minute clip of him talking to the camera.

Sorry to disappoint if I got anyone's hopes up. :good :lol:


:lol:

You suck.
SuzieQ49
10-03-2009, 04:26 PM
Who needs film of Joe Walcott when we have wonderful footage of the godly like footwork of Jersey Joe Walcott? I swear, Jersey Joe Walcott was the late 1940-early 50s Michael Jackson, the way he seemed to moonwalk across the ring, and make his upperbody do mime like motions.
TheGreatA
10-03-2009, 04:28 PM
Who needs film of Joe Walcott when we have wonderful footage of the godly like footwork of Jersey Joe Walcott? I swear, Jersey Joe Walcott was the late 1940-early 50s Michael Jackson, the way he seemed to moonwalk across the ring, and make his upperbody do mime like motions.

It'd be interesting to see a 5'1, 140 pound man who handled modern-sized heavyweights.

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PetethePrince
10-03-2009, 05:18 PM
Who needs film of Joe Walcott when we have wonderful footage of the godly like footwork of Jersey Joe Walcott? I swear, Jersey Joe Walcott was the late 1940-early 50s Michael Jackson, the way he seemed to moonwalk across the ring, and make his upperbody do mime like motions.

:lol: We get it you love Jersey Joe Walcott.
Mendoza
10-03-2009, 05:22 PM
There's no film of any fights of his but the question was whether there is any footage whatsoever and there is, a 4 minute clip of him talking to the camera.

Sorry to disappoint if I got anyone's hopes up. :good :lol:

I have that one. Walcott talks about Choynski and old time boxing, and wishes he was back in the game.
mcvey
10-03-2009, 05:52 PM
There's no film of any fights of his but the question was whether there is any footage whatsoever and there is, a 4 minute clip of him talking to the camera.

Sorry to disappoint if I got anyone's hopes up. :good :lol:

I had a feeling there was a clip of Walcott and Langford" re-enacting" their bout years later.
Dempsey1238
10-03-2009, 08:39 PM
Same clip of Walcott talking.


I not even sure the ring mag had Jack Johnson in it lol.
Seamus
10-03-2009, 08:43 PM
Jersey Joe Walcott's footwork is gods gift to society!

Mostly needless flamboyance, thus in part the spotty record.

They broadcast dance competitions as well as boxing matches.
Minotauro
10-04-2009, 11:16 AM
Yeah as mentioned there is a clip of Walcott talking after he retired working asa janitor for Madison square garden.
PetethePrince
10-04-2009, 06:55 PM
Mostly needless flamboyance, thus in part the spotty record.

They broadcast dance competitions as well as boxing matches.

:patsch

Add that to the Joe Frazier was a terrible in-fighter and Sonny Liston fought in a very unimpressive era of list of silly comments made by you.
Flea Man
10-05-2009, 01:05 AM
Yeah as mentioned there is a clip of Walcott talking after he retired working asa janitor for Madison square garden.

I assume that is him in your avatar, great pic :good
IntentionalButt
10-05-2009, 02:15 AM
This has always nagged at me - was Jersey Joe's idolization not even based on ever seeing his namesake fight? The Demon's career was over three years before he was born. So either he adopted the moniker simply out of pride for his ancestral roots based on hearsay, newspapers, and the like (so then, not conceivably a stylistic inspiration at all) - or film was extant and in circulation in the early part of the last century. :think
Flea Man
10-05-2009, 02:19 AM
This has always nagged at me - was Jersey Joe's idolization not even based on ever seeing his namesake fight? The Demon's career was over three years before he was born. So either he adopted the moniker simply out of pride for his ancestral roots based on hearsay, newspapers, and the like (so then, not conceivably a stylistic inspiration at all) - or film was extant and in circulation in the early part of the last century. :think
Yeah, I assume someone had film of Barbados Joe. Either that or tales of him were already legendary.
mcvey
10-05-2009, 04:04 AM
Well he was going to call himself " Jersey Cow Cream " ,but it didnt have that ring to it.
IntentionalButt
10-05-2009, 03:50 PM
Has anyone come across any interviews with Jersey Joe indicating that he'd witnessed his idol's craft firsthand (loosely interpreting firsthand to include the viewing of any amount or quality of film)? :think
Dempsey1238
10-05-2009, 06:53 PM
This has always nagged at me - was Jersey Joe's idolization not even based on ever seeing his namesake fight? The Demon's career was over three years before he was born. So either he adopted the moniker simply out of pride for his ancestral roots based on hearsay, newspapers, and the like (so then, not conceivably a stylistic inspiration at all) - or film was extant and in circulation in the early part of the last century. :think


Well I pretty sure since Jack Dempsey the middleweight died in 1895, and no film on him has seem to never exist in action like John L Sullivan, he Must of been great for a guy named William to just take his name.

Even though Jack Dempsey was not the real name of this middleweight either lol.
IntentionalButt
10-06-2009, 05:32 PM
Well I pretty sure since Jack Dempsey the middleweight died in 1895, and no film on him has seem to never exist in action like John L Sullivan, he Must of been great for a guy named William to just take his name.

Even though Jack Dempsey was not the real name of this middleweight either lol.

That's another fine example. Naming yourself after someone that you've never even seen in action (live or otherwise) seems so strange to me - they're basically just taking the word of their idol's contemporary sportswriters at face value on blind faith and using their imagination. It's just inconceivable to me to so profoundly moved by someone's talent as to assimilate their identity based on mere second-hand relation.
TheGreatA
10-06-2009, 05:35 PM
I imagine it was because Jersey Joe Walcott's parents came from Barbados, or so I've heard.
IntentionalButt
10-06-2009, 05:56 PM
I imagine it was because Jersey Joe Walcott's parents came from Barbados, or so I've heard.

Right, that's why I said it may have simply been pride in his roots - but even with the first Walcott already being a national treasure for the Bajan peoples by that point, the fact remains that unless Joe 2 observed him on film, he's going on nothing but second-hand information. He can hardly in that case be said to have modeled his style after him - any more than one can model their piano playing technique after that of Ludwig van Beethoven.
TheGreatA
10-06-2009, 06:07 PM
Right, that's why I said it may have simply been pride in his roots - but even with the first Walcott already being a national treasure for the Bajan peoples by that point, the fact remains that unless Joe 2 observed him on film, he's going on nothing but second-hand information. He can hardly in that case be said to have modeled his style after him - any more than one can model their piano playing technique after that of Ludwig van Beethoven.

Then again I don't think anyone including Jersey Joe himself has ever claimed that he fought like Barbados Joe. The original Joe Walcott was in fact considered to be the exact opposite of Jersey Joe, stylistically.

He may have been just paying homage. A lot of boxers at the time adopted the names of past great fighters.
he grant
10-06-2009, 10:07 PM
He payed homage to the legend. He never saw him fight.
ripcity
10-06-2009, 11:43 PM
My guess is that non exests. It dose not mean that non of his fights were filmed but film used to be highly flamable and would also dertorite easly. Enless a cloctor stored it some where in a climet controled vault it dose not exeest. So no one is going to find some old film cleaning out the atiic if they do it may be concered a merical.
TheGreatA
11-28-2009, 12:54 PM
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Flea Man
11-28-2009, 01:03 PM
Great A you are the MAN for posting footage :good :good :good