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I mostly want to talk about Tua's return and what you all thought about that.
What did you think about his performance in general?
How did it compare to what would be seen as his better years? Has he declined or did he look as good as he ever did in this short viewing?
How do you think he fits into the current heavyweight landscape? Outside of the Klitschko's, who do you think he can beat and who can't he beat?
As regards to the Klitschko's, I'm sure nearly all will favour the Klits (please speak up if you disagree! :p) but which one would he have more of a chance against and what % chance would you give Tua?
I also want this to remain in the Brit forum, so tell me in detail about David Haye vs. David Tua.
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Mattf450
10-03-2009, 06:14 PM
For starters I dont think Cameron was any good anyway. Tua would surely land on Haye over 12 rounds, if so its got to be curtains for haye. Added to that Tua has a good chin, which should be able to take everything Haye has to give.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 06:16 PM
I thought he looked very good under the circumstances, long layoff and average opponent. I think he can get himself back into a (losing) title shot with one of the Klitschos, given the quality of last nights opponent Tua didn't look to have declined too much from his prime. Hard to tell though in 1 and a bit rounds of action.
For starters I dont think Cameron was any good anyway. Tua would surely land on Haye over 12 rounds, if so its got to be curtains for haye. Added to that Tua has a good chin, which should be able to take everything Haye has to give.
Granted. I was bemused myself by the buildup in the NZ press. It never seemed a contest to me.
But forgetting Cameron's inept display, from the things you can immediately identify did you notice that Tua had lost anything or is he the exact same fighter of yesteryear?
looking for it now. Thought this was on tomorrow morning :verysad
GazOC
10-03-2009, 06:21 PM
Granted. I was bemused myself by the buildup in the NZ press. It never seemed a contest to me.
These domestic rivalries have a way of exciting people and making them lose perspective that doesn't affect us outsiders.
D.Haye-no1-p4p
10-03-2009, 06:22 PM
I thought he looked very good under the circumstances, long layoff and average opponent. I think he can get himself back into a (losing) title shot with one of the Klitschos, given the quality of last nights opponent Tua didn't look to have declined too much from his prime. Hard to tell though in 1 and a bit rounds of action.
True, I agree he looked very good.
Probably deceiving in the same respect as Trinidad vs Mayorga or Tszyu vs Mitchell.
Although Tua looked immense, I think he'd really struggle with the overgrown Ukranians beasts.
Mattf450
10-03-2009, 06:23 PM
I thought Tua was moving well but I dont think the fight went on long enough to really find anything in depth out about his current condition compared to his prime
trotter
10-03-2009, 06:23 PM
In terms of Haye, I thought he looked fucking huge last night ... I was shocked at how bulky he was
looking for it now. Thought this was on tomorrow morning :verysad
I downloaded 900mb's and was expecting an epic hard fought battle due to the length of file. I was sorely disapointed when I had to skip through 20 minutes of ring entrances and announcements (from a rather novel announcer), and with only a third of the playback left for the fight including interviews it sort of gave the result away :D
In terms of Haye, I thought he looked fucking huge last night ... I was shocked at how bulky he was
His legs are like tree trunks.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 06:27 PM
I downloaded 900mb's and was expecting an epic hard fought battle due to the length of file. I was sorely disapointed when I had to skip through 20 minutes of ring entrances and announcements (from a rather novel announcer), and with only a third of the playback left for the fight including interviews it sort of gave the result away :D
Yeah, I saw that.....the one on WVBA was 300mb and that had all the intros and post fight interviews.
Yeah im getting the same one :lol:
I need to get another site besides TC
andyZOR
10-03-2009, 06:34 PM
Tuas fart would KO Haye
BIGMARK
10-03-2009, 06:34 PM
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GazOC
10-03-2009, 06:36 PM
Yeah im getting the same one :lol:
I need to get another site besides TC
Its a free leech on TC though...
trotter
10-03-2009, 06:37 PM
I downloaded 900mb's and was expecting an epic hard fought battle due to the length of file. I was sorely disapointed when I had to skip through 20 minutes of ring entrances and announcements (from a rather novel announcer), and with only a third of the playback left for the fight including interviews it sort of gave the result away :D
That's the problem isn't it, the bar gives away the length of the file, and half the time more or less the result
There's probably some setting you can tweak so you don't see it but then if you want to fast forward past the intros you're still gonna have a good idea
BIGMARK
10-03-2009, 06:40 PM
Your a hero Mark cheers
no problem, i cant always be a lurker
GazOC
10-03-2009, 06:47 PM
That's the problem isn't it, the bar gives away the length of the file, and half the time more or less the result
There's probably some setting you can tweak so you don't see it but then if you want to fast forward past the intros you're still gonna have a good idea
VLC player its in Tools/ Preferences/ Interface then set the display mode to 'minimal' and save.
Tua's speed surprised me there a lot. The ref and commentators were shocking. Think i seen that ref before recently he is comical think he was waiting for Cameron to be in a coffin before calling it off.
Great to see Tua in shape.
Broxi
10-03-2009, 06:48 PM
He looked in great shape although seemed smaller now to me, let's face it though, he's one of the more interesting things on the HW scene right now, so I think there would be a lot of interest in a Tua vs Klistchko fight.
I'd love to see him do something in the division. He is still only mid-30s and in good nick at the end of the day.
Tua's speed surprised me there a lot. The ref and commentators were shocking. Think i seen that ref before recently he is comical think he was waiting for Cameron to be in a coffin before calling it off.
Great to see Tua in shape.
:lol:
Very true. I was pleading at my laptop screen for him to stop the fight. Poor old Cameron was taking a pounding.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 06:51 PM
What was the thing with asking the time?
"Where was this David Tua against Lennox Lewis" :lol:
The other commentator put him right and pointed out the obvious: Cameron is not on Lennox's level.
Bar the Klits I think Tua could present problems for everyone in the division. Him vs Povetkin or Arreola would be a war.
Beeston Brawler
10-03-2009, 06:55 PM
It's a bit early to start suggesting he would beat a Klitschko, but it would be nice to see someone actually try and stick one on Wlad, after the shocking efforts of Iggy, Thompson and Rahman.
Vitali might be the easier fight for him though.....
Broxi
10-03-2009, 06:55 PM
What was the thing with asking the time?
I think he wasn't sure whether the bell had gone for the round. :lol:
He was funny!
:lol:
Very true. I was pleading at my laptop screen for him to stop the fight. Poor old Cameron was taking a pounding.
I was surprised he got out of the first round. The knockout was just a series of ooo's and ahhh's from me :lol: Another highlight reel knockout for Tua.
I think he thought the round was finished Gaz.
The commentators made me laugh a few times asking where this Tua was against Lewis :rofl then saying he should be DQ'ed, and people laughed at RTE's coverage :lol:
I think he has a great chance against anybody bar the Klitschko's. Of the two I'd take Wladimir for obvious reasons.
Apart from those guys, there is nobody else that can swim without getting wet. That is, there is nobody that can do a Lennox Lewis and jab and grab their way to victory, utilizing size and reach and technical skills. Only the Klits are capable of that. Everybody else has to get in there and more or less stand with Tua.
I think he has a great chance against anybody bar the Klitschko's. Of the two I'd take Wladimir for obvious reasons.
Apart from those guys, there is nobody else that can swim without getting wet. That is, there is nobody that can do a Lennox Lewis and jab and grab their way to victory, utilizing size and reach and technical skills. Only the Klits are capable of that. Everybody else has to get in there and more or less stand with Tua.
Stop stealing Brother Nazim's lines :nono:lol:
I agree with what you're saying. Tua has a great chance against everyone apart from the Klits and there's always that punchers chance against Wlad.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 07:03 PM
I think he wasn't sure whether the bell had gone for the round. :lol:
He was funny!
I thought he may have been doing what people seem to want Richard Steele to have done in the Taylor-Chavez fight.
Ask how much time the fighter has to endure a one-sided beating for before the bell went....
Stop stealing Brother Nazim's lines :nono:lol:
I agree with what you're saying. Tua has a great chance against everyone apart from the Klits and there's always that punchers chance against Wlad.
I use it quite often now. It is a very good way to describe that style of fighting, and everybody understands it :D
I've always thought Tua is Haye's absolute worst opponent. More so than the Klitschko's. Considering how he struggled (relatively) with Mormeck and Fragomeni, there are so many comparisons to draw.
JonOli
10-03-2009, 07:07 PM
Personally I think Haye should stay away from him.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 07:08 PM
Tua looked fairly mobile and got his punches off well. If he got in range and could unload it would be a short night for Haye...thats the 'if' though!!
Tua could seriously fuck Haye up. Doubt Haye will fight him unless he really has to.
What about Tua/Toney?
There is something really interesting about that fight. Toney lacks a lot of movement these days, he would stand in the pocket with Tua. It would gel together perfectly.
Could Tua be the first to KO Toney considering Toney has been hurt at heavyweight, not least in his last fight against a bum, or would Toney's speed and counterpunching outslick him?
I use it quite often now. It is a very good way to describe that style of fighting, and everybody understands it :D
I've always thought Tua is Haye's absolute worst opponent. More so than the Klitschko's. Considering how he struggled (relatively) with Mormeck and Fragomeni, there are so many comparisons to draw.
I think Haye should avoid Tua big time. High risk no real reward. Not much good can come fighting someone with a long lay off that is no where on the heavyweight scene and still has a granite chin, solid power and still a decent enough amount of speed to hurt someone.
I think Haye should avoid Tua big time. High risk no real reward. Not much good can come fighting someone with a long lay off that is no where on the heavyweight scene and still has a granite chin, solid power and still a decent enough amount of speed to hurt someone.
I realise there is absoultely no chance of it happening. Just an interesting one to ponder and it was a token effort to bring a British context to the thread.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 07:12 PM
Fuck knows about Tua-Toney, I'd have to see more of Tua to see what level he's back to.
I think if Tua is good enough to beat a decent top 10 guy then he's good enough to beat Toney.
JonOli
10-03-2009, 07:12 PM
I've always thought Tua is Haye's absolute worst opponent.
I sense the same and wrote the post above (33) before reading any of the thread.
Tua could possibly be a nightmare for Haye, Haye's speed possibly gives him a better shot against the Klits even.
Especially at this time in his career; the reward to cost of Tua isn't that great... "reward to cost", what has happened to me.:patsch I'm not Haye's accountant.
What about Tua/Toney?
There is something really interesting about that fight. Toney lacks a lot of movement these days, he would stand in the pocket with Tua. It would gel together perfectly.
Could Tua be the first to KO Toney considering Toney has been hurt at heavyweight, not least in his last fight against a bum, or would Toney's speed and counterpunching outslick him?
Tua takes it i think Toney goes down here. Would be interesting while it goes though.
Tua-Meehan would be a decent fight next up. Meehan has already called out the Tuaman and brings a WBA ranking.
Meehan was decent in his day, except for the Williams debacle. He fought outstandingly well against Brewer and should have got the nod IMO.
He hasn't fought a live opponent in about 5 years which is worrying. You could say the same for Tua, but Tua looks that little bit sturdier and better able to deal with these things somehow...
It would be a huge fight in that part of the world so it will probably happen.
Beeston Brawler
10-03-2009, 07:20 PM
On Haye vs Tua - I think Haye lacks the discipline to beat someone like Tua.
Granted, he won't (IMO) get back to his late 90's form, but even after that, the only guys to beat him were Lewis, the best of his era, and Byrd, who had the speed, awkwardness and balls to get through.
Whatever improvements Haye has made since say, the Bonin fight, he is still essentially a balls to the wall, kill or be killed banger...... he isn't the type of guy to suss an opponent out, or go that step further and out-point someone.
Haye has only outpointed one fighter in his entire career and that was a cruise to the decision under no stress whatsoever.
I'm worried about that aspect in the Valuev fight nevermind when Tua is chasing you down.
Haye did show good discipline against Mormeck tbf. Gradually broke Mormeck down and didn't go 'looking' for the KO, also didn't let the KD faze him.
cubex
10-03-2009, 07:27 PM
Tua looked good,actually very good but Cameron ain't really a top fighter.
Tua had some nice head movement,speed looked tere,power as there,combinations,nice finising skills.He actually punched him twice when he was down.
But he was still a sucker for the jab which Cameron got to land a few.
TFFP,do you think you could PM that 900 MB link to the fight?
GazOC
10-03-2009, 07:27 PM
he got put on his arse pretty heavily though...
Tua looked good and did what he had to do against the calibre of opponent that was in front of him.
Personally i think Tua beats Haye, and as for the Klitschko's he would have a better chance of beating Vitali as i think Vitali would be willing to mix it up more and i think Wlad would keep him on the outside with relative ease.
Having said that i dont think Tua stands a chance against either Klitschko.
Tua looked good,actually very good but Cameron ain't really a top fighter.
Tua had some nice head movement,speed looked tere,power as there,combinations,nice finising skills.He actually punched him twice when he was down.
But he was still a sucker for the jab which Cameron got to land a few.
TFFP,do you think you could PM that 900 MB link to the fight?
I didn't think you were computer savvy enough for torrents? :p
It's on tc-boxing
Haye has only outpointed one fighter in his entire career and that was a cruise to the decision under no stress whatsoever.
I'm worried about that aspect in the Valuev fight nevermind when Tua is chasing you down.
This is a good example of Haye's discipline imo. He wasn't under stress but he wanted to show everyone he could go 12 rounds and was being booed heavily from the fans if i remember. Although Abdoul wasn't going to give Haye the problems Tua would.
cubex
10-03-2009, 07:39 PM
I didn't think you were computer savvy enough for torrents? :p
It's on tc-boxing
Yeah,you're right.
Fuck it!Damn it!:wall
Joined WBVA just to get great fights and all are in torrents.It's fuckin hopeless.:blood:yep
GazOC
10-03-2009, 07:43 PM
Yeah,you're right.
Fuck it!Damn it!:wall
Joined WBVA just to get great fights and all are in torrents.It's fuckin hopeless.:blood:yep
Make the effort mate, its not that difficult and well worth a bit of messing about. Any problems just ask...
cubex
10-03-2009, 07:45 PM
Any problems?
Where do I start?
I don't know how to use them?Torrents that is.
It's not rocket science man :lol:
Just download a bit torrent client. There are any number of programs that will do the job, I use one called 'UTorrent'
Once you click on the link the program will open automatically and begin downloading...
cubex
10-03-2009, 07:52 PM
That's all you need to do?
Which is better ''Azureus'' or ''UTorrent''?
any fight worth putting the long haul in for tonight .... ?
GazOC
10-03-2009, 07:54 PM
Any problems?
Yes, ANY problems. I've guided several fuckwits through the process (and Losfer!)....;)
I don't think it makes much difference, Azuereus has worked for me in the past. But I'm using UTorrent now without problems.
cubex
10-03-2009, 07:59 PM
Utorrent KO1Azerus
Okat then ishy.I trust you.
Yes, ANY problems. I've guided several fuckwits through the process (and Losfer!)....;)
I''ll let you know.
It's you headache.
The only thing you have to worry about is if you are connected to the Internet through a router and the requisite ports are blocked. That is the most common problem for noobs and it require manually going into the router settings and opening them. You'll be able to find this out if you hop on the Tua download because your d/l speed will be shite, and you won't upload anything.
This might not seem a huge problem if you can wait all day but the sites kick you off if your share ratio is bad.
But anyway, get it done. The beauty of these sites is you can go to sleep, avoid this forum, and d/l the fight in super quality without finding out the result.
cubex
10-03-2009, 08:02 PM
Which version is decent?
Losfer_Words
10-03-2009, 08:03 PM
Yes, ANY problems. I've guided several fuckwits through the process (and Losfer!)....;)
Oi! Just because I haven't posted in this thread doesn't mean that I haven't been reading it!:lol: In fairness, Cubex, if I can get the hang of it, anyone can:good.
Which version is decent?
Shouldn't make a difference, just get the latest.
I've got the one before the latest, it keeps prompting me to update it but I can't be arsed.
Bodysnatcher
10-03-2009, 08:06 PM
Tua's career was sabotaged by dodgy managers or something, wasn't it?
I'd always be interested in seeing him fight, the way HW is now as a division.
Povetkin, Johnson, Chambers - a match up against those kinds of fighters would definitely generate interest.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 08:10 PM
Oi! Just because I haven't posted in this thread doesn't mean that I haven't been reading it!:lol: In fairness, Cubex, if I can get the hang of it, anyone can:good.
Hey! I said "and Losfer" ie. you arn't a fuckwit.....but if you can't read the sentence maybe you are one....;)
GazOC
10-03-2009, 08:11 PM
TFFP, I have my ports open but I never found it that bad when they wern't....
JonOli
10-03-2009, 08:16 PM
TFFP, I have my ports open but I never found it that bad when they wern't....
:yikes
GazOC
10-03-2009, 08:18 PM
:yikes
Fnarr, fnarr.....:lol:
Losfer_Words
10-03-2009, 08:18 PM
Shouldn't make a difference, just get the latest.
I've got the one before the latest, it keeps prompting me to update it but I can't be arsed.
I keep doing that as well. The other day I thought 'what the hell, let's upgrade'. It didn't work, though, and I have been left with that pissing message whenever I open or close utorrent now. I can't turn it off now either:patsch:lol:.
Hey! I said "and Losfer" ie. you arn't a fuckwit.....but if you can't read the sentence maybe you are one....;)
Maybe I was speaking out for the 'fuckwits';). Maybe I thought that me being added on after the term meant I was something even more derogatory. Or maybe, I was being stupid:think:lol:. This thread has gone considerably Choi-esque. The Tua-train rolls on...
cubex
10-03-2009, 08:20 PM
Well I think I'm downloading something from WBVA.
Ithought you only had to dl it fro mte site and that's it but it an't that easy.
Speed is shit altough it's getting better by the second.
Well I think I'm downloading something from WBVA.
Ithought you only had to dl it fro mte site and that's it but it an't that easy.
Speed is shit altough it's getting better by the second.
Nah, thats the point of a torrent. You are downloading different parts of the file from different people. Nothing at all is hosted on the website itself except the tracker. When you are uploading, you are giving parts of the file you have downloaded to your peers :D
The speed should get better as you connect to more and more peers. If the file has a lot of 'seeders' you should get a high d/l speed.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 08:25 PM
Well I think I'm downloading something from WBVA.
Ithought you only had to dl it fro mte site and that's it but it an't that easy.
Speed is shit altough it's getting better by the second.
Thats how it works. The fight clip isn't on WVBA, its on its members computers. WVBA and Utorrent just let all the members share fights.
GazOC
10-03-2009, 08:26 PM
This is a lot more straightfoward than when Losfer was setting up....;)
Maybe I thought that me being added on after the term meant I was something even more derogatory.
That's what I thought he meant ;)
GazOC
10-03-2009, 08:30 PM
That's what I thought he meant ;)
"a complete fuckwit"?
TFFP, I have my ports open but I never found it that bad when they wern't....
When mine were closed I was bottlenecked at around 30-40kbps download and about 5kbps upload. That router was shite mind, I always seemed to have trouble getting a high speed regularly regardless of what I did.
Now I pretty much get the max out of my connection with a new router.
cubex
10-03-2009, 08:32 PM
Nah, thats the point of a torrent. You are downloading different parts of the file from different people. Nothing at all is hosted on the website itself except the tracker. When you are uploading, you are giving parts of the file you have downloaded to your peers :D
The speed should get better as you connect to more and more peers. If the file has a lot of 'seeders' you should get a high d/l speed.
Well that's some straight up jungle rules.I'd take megaupload any day over this.
This file has 4 seeders and 0 leechers(fuck knows what that means)
Thats how it works. The fight clip isn't on WVBA, its on its members computers. WVBA and Utorrent just let all the members share fights.
That's fucked up.It's dificult.
This is a lot more straightfoward than when Losfer was setting up....;)
I feel so good about myself now.
24% done:good
GazOC
10-03-2009, 08:34 PM
I only monitor it casually but I don't think its made a great deal of difference for me. I get a max of about 900 down and 100 up but I'd guess with the ports open its a question of how often you reach those maximums?
My speed is shit during the day at night its like theres a demon in my computer though :lol:
Well that's some straight up jungle rules.I'd take megaupload any day over this.
This file has 4 seeders and 0 leechers(fuck knows what that means)
That's fucked up.It's dificult.
I feel so good about myself now.
24% done:good
Well it has at least one leecher, you :good
If you are getting a decent speed with only 4 seeders you are doing okay. New fights usually have 50-200 seeders, that is when you get a high speed. They do on tc-boxing anyway.
Just seen Cubex is from Romania what happened Thunder from there he was a good poster :think
cubex
10-03-2009, 08:40 PM
Well it has at least one leecher, you :good
If you are getting a decent speed with only 4 seeders you are doing okay. New fights usually have 50-200 seeders, that is when you get a high speed. They do on tc-boxing anyway.
Calling people over the internet a ''leecher'' seems kinda e-racist don't it?:D:think
Any chances they kick me out for just basically doing nothing but downloading?
Just seen Cubex is from Romania what happened Thunder from there he was a good poster :think
That is Thunder you donut.
cubex
10-03-2009, 08:41 PM
Just seen Cubex is from Romania what happened Thunder from there he was a good poster :think
He's dead.
I kicked that mofos ass,raped his mommy and taken over his computer.
Or it just is me under another name.:hey
Just seen Cubex is from Romania what happened Thunder from there he was a good poster :think
I THINK Cubex is Thunder mate.
That is Thunder you donut.
:rofl Thanks for that
:hi: Thunder
Calling people over the internet a ''leecher'' seems kinda e-racist don't it?:D:think
Any chances they kick me out for just basically doing nothing but downloading?
There is a chance of that if you do it too often, I got kicked off WBVA years ago for doing it. When there are no leechers (downloaders) you have nobody to upload the file to. So your download column is going up and up and the upload column is stuck on zero.
On tc-boxing new fights are 'Free leech'. That means only the upload is counted, which is very handy.
cubex
10-03-2009, 08:45 PM
Hi LHL.Hows your british life treating you?
Iceland man-There are some files tha are ''Free Leach'' too here.But very little though.
So I must dl from where there are leechers right?
Axl_Nose
10-03-2009, 08:45 PM
I mostly want to talk about Tua's return and what you all thought about that.
What did you think about his performance in general?
How did it compare to what would be seen as his better years? Has he declined or did he look as good as he ever did in this short viewing?
How do you think he fits into the current heavyweight landscape? Outside of the Klitschko's, who do you think he can beat and who can't he beat?
As regards to the Klitschko's, I'm sure nearly all will favour the Klits (please speak up if you disagree! :p) but which one would he have more of a chance against and what % chance would you give Tua?
I also want this to remain in the Brit forum, so tell me in detail about David Haye vs. David Tua.
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This is a very easy to me .. Tua was always nothing, and its easy nowadays to look back with rose coloured glasses to a time when we 'thought' was a better age in the 90s, but to be honest the heavyweight division has been awful since the mid 70s, the Larry Holmes era had a few guys, Tyson had a few guys and Holyfield had Bowe and guys like Mercer and Moorer but after 1996 the division has been dire and that encapsulates fighters like Tua .. Tua was always a very basic fighter, he had a left hook and a good image (comparisons to Tyson, Good haircut and an exotic upbringing) but he was never anything special .... His fight with Ibeabuchi was very entertaining and close but his stature, his style and his lack of real speed put paid to any real ambitions he had .. The media who made him a big name, did so on the fact that they thought he was the second coming of Tyson, so he got a lift off that .. But he was soon exposed, Lennox could have beaten him with one eye shut, all you need to do is find your range, pop out the jab and defend Tua's left hook, once you tame that Left hook he's got nothing ......
The real shame from the 90s is Ike Ibeabuchi, this guy had something and could have got better. Good size, good skills but ultimately, an uncontrollable, volatile personality that couldnt be controlled ..
trotter
10-03-2009, 08:47 PM
Cubex - be careful at first
Don't download loads of stuff
Just new fights (as soon as they go up) and especially if they are 'free' leech
You need to maintain a 1 ratio but with the amount of free leeches these days it's easy
Just don't rush in, take your time, read the FAQ's
GazOC
10-03-2009, 08:48 PM
On tc-boxing new fights are 'Free leech'. That means only the upload is counted, which is very handy.
This is good advice until you get the hang of how the 'system' works.:deal
Hi LHL.Hows your british life treating you?
Iceland man-There are some files tha are ''Free Leach'' too here.But very little though.
So I must dl from where there are leechers right?
That's a pretty good rule to follow in general.
Obviously the older files are less likely to have leechers because people aren't as interested. The mistake noobs make is they get so excited seeing all these fights and they rape the downloads. You have to kinda 'earn' those fights by keeping your ratio up, then you can afford to get those fights :good
Best tips to keep your ratio good;
1. Free leeches
2. Leave your UTorrent open whenever possible, even when you are finished you can continue uploading.
3. If you can be bothered you can upload new files to the site.
trotter
10-03-2009, 08:49 PM
I only monitor it casually but I don't think its made a great deal of difference for me. I get a max of about 900 down and 100 up but I'd guess with the ports open its a question of how often you reach those maximums?
I was a member with closed ports for ages, always got good speed
Did the whole port opening routine, made sod all difference, says I'm 'connectable' now but speed is just the same
trotter
10-03-2009, 08:52 PM
That's a pretty good rule to follow in general.
Obviously the older files are less likely to have leechers because people aren't as interested. The mistake noobs make is they get so excited seeing all these fights and they rape the downloads. You have to kinda 'earn' those fights by keeping your ratio up, then you can afford to get those fights :good
Best tips to keep your ratio good;
1. Free leeches
2. Leave your UTorrent open whenever possible, even when you are finished you can continue uploading.
3. If you can be bothered you can upload new files to the site.
4. Jump on as soon as you can when a big fight takes place, probably about 8am UK time, ESPECIALLY if it's a free leech. Choose the free leech above any other file (there's usually a couple of versions). And when you've downloaded it leave your computer and utorrent on all day.
4. Jump on as soon as you can when a big fight takes place, probably about 8am UK time, ESPECIALLY if it's a free leech. Choose the free leech above any other file (there's usually a couple of versions). And when you've downloaded it leave your computer and utorrent on all day.
Yup :good
The sooner you get on the files that everybody is going to want the more life you get out of it.
cubex
10-03-2009, 08:54 PM
Cubex - be careful at first
Don't download loads of stuff
Just new fights (as soon as they go up) and especially if they are 'free' leech
You need to maintain a 1 ratio but with the amount of free leeches these days it's easy
Just don't rush in, take your time, read the FAQ's
Wel I'm not really looking for new fights since I can get them from megaupload from different sources.
I just wanna complete my Arturo Gatti collection and these mofos have some fights in HBO quality I never seen(ex what I'm dl now,the Gatti-Jakubovsky fight from the Lewis-Grant TVKO PPV).
I lost most my collection in a computer fucing some time ago.
That's a pretty good rule to follow in general.
Obviously the older files are less likely to have leechers because people aren't as interested. The mistake noobs make is they get so excited seeing all these fights and they rape the downloads. You have to kinda 'earn' those fights by keeping your ratio up, then you can afford to get those fights :good
Best tips to keep your ratio good;
1. Free leeches
2. Leave your UTorrent open whenever possible, even when you are finished you can continue uploading.
3. If you can be bothered you can upload new files to the site.
Rule 1-will try.
Rule 2-seems easy.
Rule 3-Fuck it.
This is a very easy to me .. Tua was always nothing, and its easy nowadays to look back with rose coloured glasses to a time when we 'thought' was a better age in the 90s, but to be honest the heavyweight division has been awful since the mid 70s, the Larry Holmes era had a few guys, Tyson had a few guys and Holyfield had Bowe and guys like Mercer and Moorer but after 1996 the division has been dire and that encapsulates fighters like Tua .. Tua was always a very basic fighter, he had a left hook and a good image (comparisons to Tyson, Good haircut and an exotic upbringing) but he was never anything special .... His fight with Ibeabuchi was very entertaining and close but his stature, his style and his lack of real speed put paid to any real ambitions he had .. The media who made him a big name, did so on the fact that they thought he was the second coming of Tyson, so he got a lift off that .. But he was soon exposed, Lennox could have beaten him with one eye shut, all you need to do is find your range, pop out the jab and defend Tua's left hook, once you tame that Left hook he's got nothing ......
The real shame from the 90s is Ike Ibeabuchi, this guy had something and could have got better. Good size, good skills but ultimately, an uncontrollable, volatile personality that couldnt be controlled ..
Seems a little harsh to say he was 'nothing'
He might not have won a world title himself but he's beaten 4 world champions...
trotter
10-03-2009, 09:18 PM
Wel I'm not really looking for new fights since I can get them from megaupload from different sources.
You use the new fights and free leeches to get your ratio up, then you can cherry pick what you really want...
So ditch megaupload and get all your new fights from the sites
They will be there first anyway and it's reliable as fuck
GazOC
10-03-2009, 09:20 PM
You use the new fights and free leeches to get your ratio up, then you can cherry pick what you really want...
So ditch megaupload and get all your new fights from the sites
They will be there first anyway and it's reliable as fuck
Yep, look at free leeches as letting you buy the fights you really want. I download every free leech that comes up whether I want it or not.
cubex
10-03-2009, 09:22 PM
You use the new fights and free leeches to get your ratio up, then you can cherry pick what you really want...
So ditch megaupload and get all your new fights from the sites
They will be there first anyway and it's reliable as fuck
It's just that since I've never used it it's ...awkward.
Axl_Nose
10-03-2009, 10:13 PM
Seems a little harsh to say he was 'nothing'
He might not have won a world title himself but he's beaten 4 world champions...
TFFP you maybe right, i tend to overplay my hand but he's beaten Ruiz, Rahman, Moorer and guys like Oquendo but i think his 'Media Push' was so over inflated compared to what he had as a boxer ..
Tua in the 90's rode on the back of the image of Tyson that was still dominating the era, everybody was looking for the 'Next Tyson', and Tua was the man that the hopes were thrust upon .. He was a standard fighter that could be controlled in my opinion, dangerous in the early rounds but when settled could be out-boxed ....
He's only a name now because of the name and 'reputation he had in the 90s. This heavyweight division is so bad that popping Tua's name out there could generate excitement but in reality he's not going to make any waves in 2010 ..
TFFP you maybe right, i tend to overplay my hand but he's beaten Ruiz, Rahman, Moorer and guys like Oquendo but i think his 'Media Push' was so over inflated compared to what he had as a boxer ..
Tua in the 90's rode on the back of the image of Tyson that was still dominating the era, everybody was looking for the 'Next Tyson', and Tua was the man that the hopes were thrust upon .. He was a standard fighter that could be controlled in my opinion, dangerous in the early rounds but when settled could be out-boxed ....
He's only a name now because of the name and 'reputation he had in the 90s. This heavyweight division is so bad that popping Tua's name out there could generate excitement but in reality he's not going to make any waves in 2010 ..
I don't think his reputation should be held against him. It's hardly his fault, the media do their thing. The media have made many superstars out of people before they are ready or deserving.
In 2010 we are still looking for exciting fighters in the division and Tua could certainly add some life to proceedings even if he doesn't beat the Klitschko's.
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