Lloyd Honeyghan

[punk]

If he came on the scene say around the same time as Hatton, what sort of level would he be at today? Would he be mixing it up with the Cotto's and Mayweathers? Would he have had a long title run?

[GazOC]

Mayweather is bad style matchup for the post Curry Honeyghan, he stopped boxing as much, started wading in with wide shots and a counter puncher like Marlon Starling beat him fairly easily.

Cotto, I'm not so sure. Maybe Lloyd could force Cotto to fight at a pace he wasn't comfortable with and get the win. Still a tricky fight.

With Curry and McCrory gone the Welterweight division in Honeyghans day wasn't as stacked as it is at the moment.

[cockney wankers]

Honeyghan would obliterate a plodder like Cotto

[JonOli]

Lloyd Honeyghan should definitely get more of a mention than he does, imo, in British boxing circles. I know everyone mentions the Curry win, but in some ways he is a bit of a forgotten man for his achievements, imho. He just predated the WBO etc - unbeaten - super undefeated - kings of the ring ATG era.

[JonOli]

PS he's one of the first boxers that I remember from when I was very wee youngster, so maybe I'm a bit bias. Still, are the resumes of the likes of Eubank, Hatton etc amazingly better.. .

[TBooze]

I think people forget sometimes that he went to Italy pre Curry and destroyed Rosi in what was considered a huge upset at the time.

Post Curry, the Bumphus win (whining by Duva aside) was impressive. The Blocker fight was tough, but Maurice went on to show himself a quality operator; and some thought Mad Dog was a live underdog, but the Raggamuffin man proved otherwise in under 50 seconds!

[GazOC]

Yeah, the Rosi win barely gets mentioned (myself included).

[Axl_Nose]

Lets get some reality into this post .. Honeyghan was a decent fighter, nothing more, nothing less .. Honeyghan v Curry was only ever about 1 subject and thats Don Curry's suicidal weight draining.
I know we are Brits and we like to big-up our fighters, but anybody who knows anything about Don Curry knows that he was playing a dangerous game with his weight 2 years before he took on Honeyghan ..
It was his own fault, he didnt feel he was a Middleweight and he thought there was no money in the light-middleweight division so he kept killing himself to make 147 and eventually it told when he fought Lloyd ..
Lloyd was a good fighter, decent boxer, good banger .. But the class difference between Honeyghan and Curry is huge, Curry was beaten on the scales, it was his own fault and fair doos to Lloyd for taking advantage, but lets not make out Lloyd Honeyghan was a stellar fighter based on his fight with Curry .. Thats like calling Pac a great fighter based on his win against a weight drained Oscar De La Hoya ....

I'd take Cotto to beat Lloyd because my memories of Lloyds bad performances are clearer than his good performances ..

[TBooze]

Lets get some reality into this post .. Honeyghan was a decent fighter, nothing more, nothing less .. Honeyghan v Curry was only ever about 1 subject and thats Don Curry's suicidal weight draining.
I know we are Brits and we like to big-up our fighters, but anybody who knows anything about Don Curry knows that he was playing a dangerous game with his weight 2 years before he took on Honeyghan ..
It was his own fault, he didnt feel he was a Middleweight and he thought there was no money in the light-middleweight division so he kept killing himself to make 147 and eventually it told when he fought Lloyd ..
Lloyd was a good fighter, decent boxer, good banger .. But the class difference between Honeyghan and Curry is huge, Curry was beaten on the scales, it was his own fault and fair doos to Lloyd for taking advantage, but lets not make out Lloyd Honeyghan was a stellar fighter based on his fight with Curry .. Thats like calling Pac a great fighter based on his win against a weight drained Oscar De La Hoya ....

I'd take Cotto to beat Lloyd because my memories of Lloyds bad performances are clearer than his good performances ..

Nobody was suggesting pre fight Curry would have any trouble what so ever with Honeyghan. The fight was up there with Robinson/Turpin as far as upsets go, to deny otherwise is taking away deserved praise from Lloyd, because hindsight is always 20/20.

[GazOC]

Lets get some reality into this post ..


Cockney Wankers bold prediction aside, I can't where anyone has been unrealistic in this thread?

[TFFP]

Maybe he could beat Cotto, on an inspired night. On his shit nights - no.

Mayweather would duck him.

The rest, meh. He'd certainly be up there competing thats for sure.

[bennie]

Honeyghan was almost perfection for two years leading up to Curry. Think of his displays against Rosi, Mittee, Shufford, etc, prior to Curry, whom he jumped on and was already smashing with right hands by the second round. I actually feel, as with a lot of British fighters who pull off a sensationl win (Turpin, McGuigan, Stracey...), that Honeyghan peaked against Curry and never looked as good again.

[Mr Butt]

honeyghan as said changed his style somewhat after beating curry but he is still underated by most these days and would give hatton a beating at welterweight and in my humble opinion beat cotto but would fall short against mayweather and mosely

[essexboy]

Lets get some reality into this post .. Honeyghan was a decent fighter, nothing more, nothing less .. Honeyghan v Curry was only ever about 1 subject and thats Don Curry's suicidal weight draining.
I know we are Brits and we like to big-up our fighters, but anybody who knows anything about Don Curry knows that he was playing a dangerous game with his weight 2 years before he took on Honeyghan ..
It was his own fault, he didnt feel he was a Middleweight and he thought there was no money in the light-middleweight division so he kept killing himself to make 147 and eventually it told when he fought Lloyd ..
Lloyd was a good fighter, decent boxer, good banger .. But the class difference between Honeyghan and Curry is huge, Curry was beaten on the scales, it was his own fault and fair doos to Lloyd for taking advantage, but lets not make out Lloyd Honeyghan was a stellar fighter based on his fight with Curry .. Thats like calling Pac a great fighter based on his win against a weight drained Oscar De La Hoya ....

I'd take Cotto to beat Lloyd because my memories of Lloyds bad performances are clearer than his good performances ..

What a load of old bollocks. If Curry thought he was having problems making the weight he shouldnt have taken the fight. If him and his people knew he was struggling why'd they throw him in with Honeyghan? Because they thought it'd be an easy win and Curry was still capable of beating a bum like Honeyghan with him severly weight drained, thats even if he was because we know how they like to bring up these excuses post-fight. From what I've heard they planned to move up after this fight so why risk one more? Re-watch how he picked apart an unbeaten Maurice Blocker and then tell me he was no more than a decent fighter, he was very, very good.

[Unforgiven]

Yeah, "weight-drained" is an AMATEUR'S EXCUSE ...... Curry was awesome at 147 pounds, end of story.

The truth is Curry was a precise, methodical, stalker, a terrific fighter but not best suited to the type of weaving, fast-footed attack that Honeyghan brought on that night. Honeyghan was great on that night, and employed the right tactics to defeat Curry. No excuses.

Honeyghan's resume is good. I'd rate him above Hatton, for sure. Probably above Eubank, Benn, Watson too, but behind Calzaghe and Lewis, among recent British fighters.

[Kid Lucky]

Always remember them big fights in the 80's, when he came out and knocked down Johnny Bumphus as he was getting off his stool that was f*cking funny.

[PaddyD1983]

Lloyd Honeyghan should definitely get more of a mention than he does, imo, in British boxing circles. I know everyone mentions the Curry win, but in some ways he is a bit of a forgotten man for his achievements, imho. He just predated the WBO etc - unbeaten - super undefeated - kings of the ring ATG era.

:good

Spot on mate.