View Full Version : Wlad interested in Holyfield bout
RonnieHornschuh
09-18-2007, 07:43 PM
He and his brother were guests at a talkshow on bavarian television yesterday. wladimir said his next fight would either be the winner of the ibf tournament (he wasn't really excited about that) or the winner of iggy/holy (wlad hopes for evan), which enables him to achieve unification. vitali looked quite well after his recovery, he said he is not sure if he makes a warmup fight first or goes straight for the title.
that was a short summary for those who couldn't see it.
Lampley
09-18-2007, 07:44 PM
Wladimir is a cruel individual if he truly intends on seeking out Holy.
Stinky gloves
09-18-2007, 07:49 PM
Holyfield would be a good scrap, after that one more money talk and his mandatory is waiting for him.
jopez707
09-18-2007, 07:53 PM
This is the last fight in the world that Wlad should take.
RUSKULL
09-18-2007, 08:19 PM
He and his brother were guests at a talkshow on bavarian television yesterday. wladimir said his next fight would either be the winner of the ibf tournament (he wasn't really excited about that) or the winner of iggy/holy (wlad hopes for evan), which enables him to achieve unification. vitali looked quite well after his recovery, he said he is not sure if he makes a warmup fight first or goes straight for the title.
that was a short summary for those who couldn't see it.
Thanx for the update! :good
RUSKULL
09-18-2007, 08:23 PM
Wladimir is a cruel individual if he truly intends on seeking out Holy.
I don't think so. I've been saying for awhile now that Wlad doesn't have many options since most other fighters are already scheduled to fight.
Holyfield did look impressive in his last couple of fights and he just may have enough left to beat Iggy. If he does then unification is possible w/ Wladimir & Evander, and Holy still has a name as far as legacy is concerned, even though he is def. past his best. He'd be a better challenge than Austin was don'tcha think? :deal
Heavyrighthand
09-18-2007, 08:23 PM
He and his brother were guests at a talkshow on bavarian television yesterday. wladimir said his next fight would either be the winner of the ibf tournament (he wasn't really excited about that) or the winner of iggy/holy (wlad hopes for evan), which enables him to achieve unification. vitali looked quite well after his recovery, he said he is not sure if he makes a warmup fight first or goes straight for the title.
that was a short summary for those who couldn't see it.
As has been said, I think Wlad wants the WBO titleholder, not Holyfield. If Holy happens to have the title, then. BUt you make it sound as if he's specifically after Holyfield, and that's kind of twisting it. Wlad wants to unfiy with whomever has the WBO, period.
And just the other day, an article on Vitali said that he already told WBC bigshot Suliaman that he wanted to fight the Peter Oleg winner in early 08, without a warmup. I guess maybe Vitali is rethinking fighting the titleholder cold, without any warmup. I think rethinking that is a wise move, as he certainly needs to blow the rust off, first. :good
Mendoza
09-18-2007, 08:24 PM
He is not seeking out Holyfield, he wants to unify titles and that will me the most available champion considering the time frame. He was orginally planning on fighting the winner of Ibragimov-Chagaev before Ruslan pulled out. He knows that Chagaev wont want to fight him in his first fight back from his illness. And the Peter-Maskaev winner isnt happening for awhile and they will most likely want a tuneup before fighting him again. He already beat Peter once, and if Peter wins then he will just have to beat him again.
Wlad wants to unify. If the winner of Holyfield vs Ibragimov has the stones to risk their title vs Wlad's title, then Wlad will fight the winner.
RUSKULL
09-18-2007, 08:24 PM
He is not seeking out Holyfield, he wants to unify titles and that will me the most available champion considering the time frame. He was orginally planning on fighting the winner of Ibragimov-Chagaev before Ruslan pulled out. He knows that Chagaev wont want to fight him in his first fight back from his illness. And the Peter-Maskaev winner isnt happening for awhile and they will most likely want a tuneup before fighting him again. He already beat Peter once, and if Peter wins then he will just have to beat him again.
............and beat Peter he will. :good
barneyrub
09-18-2007, 08:46 PM
Wlad wants to unify. If the winner of Holyfield vs Ibragimov has the stones to risk their title vs Wlad's title, then Wlad will fight the winner.What is the point in unifying with the WBO, the sanctioning bodies have never allowed the WBO title to unify with their titles, look at Calzaghe unifying IBF, WBO and how long he kept both titles for!!!!!!! All through history guys have had to give up the WBO title for a shot at a real title, Holyfield refused to fight Bowe for the WBO for that reason that it would take him out the other titles rankings. Sanders dropped the WBO to get a WBC shot. Its a mickey mouse bauble with as much meaning as Audleys WBF belt.
Heavyrighthand
09-18-2007, 08:55 PM
Yes, Barney is correct in that, for some reason, the WBO can't legally be unified with any other title.
But I don't think the legal rules of it are important, really.
Let them take the physical WBO belt, cause that won't matter. If Wlad wins the WBO in the ring, then its his, regardless of if he has possession of the physical title, or not.
RUSKULL
09-18-2007, 09:07 PM
Yes, Barney is correct in that, for some reason, the WBO can't legally be unified with any other title.
But I don't think the legal rules of it are important, really.
Let them take the physical WBO belt, cause that won't matter. If Wlad wins the WBO in the ring, then its his, regardless of if he has possession of the physical title, or not.
Exactly. If Holyfield or Iggy has to drop the WBO to fight Wlad we'll all know that 2 belts are unified regardless of the politics..............
Heavyrighthand
09-19-2007, 09:25 PM
Exactly. If Holyfield or Iggy has to drop the WBO to fight Wlad we'll all know that 2 belts are unified regardless of the politics..............
:good
brooklyn1550
09-19-2007, 09:27 PM
I don't want to see this fight - for Evander's sake
box03
09-19-2007, 09:41 PM
I wish Wlad would take a fight with Chagaev or better yet Peter after he rips Maskaev a new asshole, I know Holyfield has a name which = money but to be honest I would rather see Tua fight Wlad over Holyfield at least Tua has the power to put Wlad to sleep. It just somes like Wlad fights fighters when there at there weakest not there strongest, aside from Peter in 05 he has fought fighters who pose no threat to him and that doesnt say champ to me.
Grebfan9
09-19-2007, 10:01 PM
I see this fight as a complete one-sided affair.
Wlad Klitschko would use his jab to batter Holyfield.
After five rounds, I think that Klitschko would start landing
some heavy combos and put a real hurt on Evander.
Klitschko TKO 7 Holyfield.
Waldimir wins one-sidedly and by KO(you read it, KO not TKO) within the first 4 rounds. Vitali refused to fight Holyfield before simply because he claimed he had way too much respect for him, maybe Wladimir thinks Holyfield has a chance against Ibragimov.
Butch Coolidge
09-19-2007, 11:06 PM
I do not expect Holyfield to get past Ibragimov. IMO Ibragimov is one of the worst opponents for Holyfield. If I was managing Holy I would have prefered the much slower and predictable Maskaev who used to be quite available for left hooks to put him to sleep. Ibragimov has speed, an extremely awkward southpaw style and chin that has withstood some real bombs from real big guys.
standing 8
09-19-2007, 11:14 PM
A Klitschko / Holyfield bout would be a bad idea IMO. Evander is still well liked by most casual boxing fans and if Wlad were to beat him too badly the fans may turn on him.
A Klitschko / Holyfield bout would be a bad idea IMO. Evander is still well liked by most casual boxing fans and if Wlad were to beat him too badly the fans may turn on him.
Those fans also know that Holyfield should've retired LONG ago, if he wins the title then Wladimir can't be blamed for challenging to take it.
box03
09-19-2007, 11:16 PM
A Klitschko / Holyfield bout would be a bad idea IMO. Evander is still well liked by most casual boxing fans and if Wlad were to beat him too badly the fans may turn on him. Wlad has fans in america?:shock:
aliwasthegreatest
09-20-2007, 12:13 AM
yea obviously so. if holy managed to somehow miraculously beat wlad it'd be the great thing i've seen since foreman beating moorer
He is not seeking out Holyfield, he wants to unify titles and that will me the most available champion considering the time frame. He was orginally planning on fighting the winner of Ibragimov-Chagaev before Ruslan pulled out. He knows that Chagaev wont want to fight him in his first fight back from his illness. And the Peter-Maskaev winner isnt happening for awhile and they will most likely want a tuneup before fighting him again. He already beat Peter once, and if Peter wins then he will just have to beat him again.
:good
He said, i want to unify and take on the winner of Ibragimov/Holyfield.
tays001
09-20-2007, 12:54 AM
wald by brutal ko.. thne calls out tyson.... wlad ko's tyson... then calls out lary holms.. wlad by KO. then he callls out butter bean... wlad by ud .. then he ko's ibf tourney winner LOL
No he can't, but the commissions can be blamed if they let the fight take place.
Well, Holyfield is being too stubborn about it and he's mature enough so he's the only one to be blamed if something serious happens.
You have a point there, but a commission's main priority should be to protect the fighters who step into the ring, and letting such an obviously dangerous mismatch happen would be an enormous blunder on their part IMO.
And a possible serious damage to Holyfield, he'll take a beating worse than anything he could've imagined and in one-sided fashion, so you have a point as well. Let's hope he doesn't beat S.Ibragimov. :lol:
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