Will Floyd run the entire fight against the 5'6" Hatton?

[PJ]

Thoughts?

[tampa]

thats his style. plus hatton will try to impose his will all night. its really not backpedaling it countering with angles. hes the best at it.

[Pimp C]

Hell no. One thing you PBF haters have to remember when PBF fights someone closer to his own size he stands his ground alot more look at his fights at 140 and down:deal

[sonny73]

Hatton will probably lose but not becaue Mayweather will stand in front and fight him......like the DeLaHoya vs Mayweather bout all the cards are stacked in favour of the bigger name,but the difference this time is Mayweather is not a frail old man.Dont be surprised if Mayweather picks out Hattons shorts for the fight.

[sonny73]

The real question!!
Is Mayweather gonna have enough time to get ready for Tyson Gay at the US Olympic trials with all this dancing and boxing.

[psychopath]

Thoughts?

Back pedal? Is that what you mean?

Nah wrong . . . PBF will circle and do side ways movement to avoid Hatton's clinches and create the angles he needs to throw his punches and counters. :yep

[BigReg]

It depends on how much effect a punch of Mayweather's has on Hatton.

Watch him in fights like Gatti, Corrales and even to a shorter extent, Judah... once he realised his punches were racking up true damage, he went forward and was more willing to stand and fight against his opposition.

Watch him against Baldomir, Oscar De La Hoya or Castillo where his punches weren't having the impact, that's where he boxed from the outside and used his advantages to win.

If he hurts Hatton and can see it, then you might just find him coming forward - if his punches have no effect on Hatton, he'll box him.

Great observation. Floyd isn't stupid. He's not going stand inside with Ricky if he can't hurt him. Especially considering that he's faster and a better boxer

[jonesjrp4p1]

floyd is a real smart fighter and he will take the advantages he has in the ring when he figures out what hatton has to offer.....if floyd can take the punches and see them effect hatton he will stand in their but if he feels some pop from hatton he will box from the outside looking for angles.....its not running its called being smart in the ring and taking the advantages you have to come out with a win

[MSTR]

Hell no. One thing you PBF haters have to remember when PBF fights someone closer to his own size he stands his ground alot more look at his fights at 140 and down:deal
How much do you want to bet... 1 month avatar right here. Floyd will move all night. It would be foolish to stand inside with Hatton. Hatton is the better in fighter. Floyd stayed inside on guys like Gatti and Ndou because he was superior then these guys from that position. Even against crap like Brusseles, Floyd was forced to abandon staying on the inside eventually as it was allowing him to get his punches off.

[brooklyn1550]

It depends on how much effect a punch of Mayweather's has on Hatton.

Watch him in fights like Gatti, Corrales and even to a shorter extent, Judah... once he realised his punches were racking up true damage, he went forward and was more willing to stand and fight against his opposition.

Watch him against Baldomir, Oscar De La Hoya or Castillo where his punches weren't having the impact, that's where he boxed from the outside and used his advantages to win.

If he hurts Hatton and can see it, then you might just find him coming forward - if his punches have no effect on Hatton, he'll box him.

Absolutely:good

[MSTR]

It depends on how much effect a punch of Mayweather's has on Hatton.

Watch him in fights like Gatti, Corrales and even to a shorter extent, Judah... once he realised his punches were racking up true damage, he went forward and was more willing to stand and fight against his opposition.

Watch him against Baldomir, Oscar De La Hoya or Castillo where his punches weren't having the impact, that's where he boxed from the outside and used his advantages to win.

If he hurts Hatton and can see it, then you might just find him coming forward - if his punches have no effect on Hatton, he'll box him.
Good Post. And we all know that Floyd will not be able to come forward against hatton. He is FAR too strong, and tenacious. Floyd is too smart for that, and will work his gameplan and get the decision.

[Ramshall1]

Hell no. One thing you PBF haters have to remember when PBF fights someone closer to his own size he stands his ground alot more look at his fights at 140 and down:deal

like when he ran from Castillo in the rematch after getting a gift decision in the first fight. :good

[Pimp C]

How much do you want to bet... 1 month avatar right here. Floyd will move all night. It would be foolish to stand inside with Hatton. Hatton is the better in fighter. Floyd stayed inside on guys like Gatti and Ndou because he was superior then these guys from that position. Even against crap like Brusseles, Floyd was forced to abandon staying on the inside eventually as it was allowing him to get his punches off.
PBF is the superior inside fighter IMO, Riclly just holds and hits. He has a very underrated indside boxing game and is way more accurate than Hatton. Not to mention his body work is underrate as well.

[Ramshall1]

PBF is the superior inside fighter IMO, Riclly just holds and hits. He has a very underrated indside boxing game and is way more accurate than Hatton. Not to mention his body work is underrate as well.

do you think FMJ will fight him on the inside?

[Pimp C]

do you think FMJ will fight him on the inside?
Yes I do but not the whole fight he will do it in spurts just to show Hatton he can have his way with him and show him who's boss in the ring.

[Ramshall1]

Yes I do but not the whole fight he will do it in spurts just to show Hatton he can have his way with him and show him who's boss in the ring.

you are an utter jackass, plain and simple. Hattons game is to maul. . . Fraud will be on his bicycle the whole night just like he did with Baldomir. . . prepare for a track meet snoozefest. :good

[DoumB]

Yes I do but not the whole fight he will do it in spurts just to show Hatton he can have his way with him and show him who's boss in the ring.

Even myself who gives no chances for hatton disagree with this, hatton while having an horrible style, on the inside can do too much damage for floyd to trade in this position, even if floyd land lets say a few nice shots on the inside, his body is gonna get hit badly and it could lessen his chance to win

[Pimp C]

you are an utter jackass, plain and simple. Hattons game is to maul. . . Fraud will be on his bicycle the whole night just like he did with Baldomir. . . prepare for a track meet snoozefest. :good
You're a fool no way in hell was PBF going to ever hurt Baldo so he did what he had to do against a guy with an iron chin. Hatton doesn't have an iron chin he will come forward with no jab to work behind and get picked apart like a turkey on thanksgiving. You're the fool my friend if you don't see it.:good

[Jose FM]

Hell no. One thing you PBF haters have to remember when PBF fights someone closer to his own size he stands his ground alot more look at his fights at 140 and down:deal
You really are dumb, and if Floyd doesnt run, hes as dumb as you. Floyds only chance is to run.

[Pimp C]

You really are dumb, and if Floyd doesnt run, hes as dumb as you. Floyds only chance is to run.
You don't know dick and you proved with your dumbass prediction in the PBF-OScar fight.:hi: PBF doesn't have to stay on his bike the whole fight against Hatton fool. PBF can beat Hatton in more ways than Hatton can beat him:deal

[Jose FM]

You're a fool no way in hell was PBF going to ever hurt Baldo so he did what he had to do against a guy with an iron chin. Hatton doesn't have an iron chin he will come forward with no jab to work behind and get picked apart like a turkey on thanksgiving. You're the fool my friend if you don't see it.:good

He doesnt? Ive seen Hatton get hit cleanly with murderous shots and he still kept coming? If Hatton doent have a Iron chin, then what constitutes an Iron chin? Lastly Mayweather aint got power to hurt Hatton anyway.

[DoumB]

You really are dumb, and if Floyd doesnt run, hes as dumb as you. Floyds only chance is to run.

I hate this running thing, floyd dont run, he fight smart, I'm sure he will be more then willing to stand his ground on a few occasion in this fight ala Duran-Leonard 1(except to a lesser extent and having much more success then leonard:lol: )

[Jose FM]

You don't know dick and you proved with your dumbass prediction in the PBF-OScar fight.:hi: PBF doesn't have to stay on his bike the whole fight against Hatton fool. PBF can beat Hatton in more ways than Hatton can beat him:deal
You dont know shit by predicting a Gatti-like beating on Oscar.

[KO Boxing]

Good Post. And we all know that Floyd will not be able to come forward against hatton. He is FAR too strong, and tenacious. Floyd is too smart for that, and will work his gameplan and get the decision.
I disagree. There will be a number of times where Floyd comes forward in this fight, really sitting down on his punches, LOOKING for a stoppage.

[Pimp C]

He doesnt? Ive seen Hatton get hit cleanly with murderous shots and he still kept coming? If Hatton doent have a Iron chin, then what constitutes an Iron chin? Lastly Mayweather aint got power to hurt Hatton anyway.
I guess you didn't see the Collazzo fight when feather-fisted Luis had Ricky on queer street then did you? And lastly PBF does have the power to hurt Ricky speed is power you fool ask your boy Oscar who was rocked by PBF in there fight.:hi:

[Jose FM]

You're a fool no way in hell was PBF going to ever hurt Baldo so he did what he had to do against a guy with an iron chin. Hatton doesn't have an iron chin he will come forward with no jab to work behind and get picked apart like a turkey on thanksgiving. You're the fool my friend if you don't see it.:good
Yeah, ok, so since hes not gonna hurt him, he should just pot shot, like he did all night. Most boring championship fight ive ever seen.

[Jose FM]

I guess you didn't see the Collazzo fight when feather-fisted Luis had Ricky on queer street then did you? And lastly PBF does have the power to hurt Ricky speed is power you fool ask your boy Oscar who was rocked by PBF in there fight.:hi:
Haha, yeah i saw Ricky beat Collazo, a true first Welterweight fight (unlike gayrunners first welter fight in Mitchell) and I NEVER SAW MAYWEATHER HURT DLH, you are trippin....

[Ramshall1]

o.k. Fraud ran from Baldomir. . . but he's gonna stand his ground with Hatton??? Some of you guys must have Fraud balls dangling in front of your eyes.

[Jose FM]

I hate this running thing, floyd dont run, he fight smart, I'm sure he will be more then willing to stand his ground on a few occasion in this fight ala Duran-Leonard 1(except to a lesser extent and having much more success then leonard:lol: )
Pot-shotting and moving back all night is running.

[Hadrian]

Yes he moved ALOT against castillo- however I think this will be different. Flyod is an excellent in-fighter and will accomodate Hatton at times on the inside. I think he will fight like this: early rounds a lot of lateral movement-though not on his bicycle- designed to get ricky to follow him and rush in and catch hatton with viscious straight rights and hooks. After slowing ricky down in the first 3-4 rounds and inflicting some serious damage he will start to come forward so as to add to his fame (he's heard the detractors) he will actually take the fight to ricky after the real danger has subsided somewhat a la Gatti. He will stop ricky on cuts or some other TKO in round s 6-9. Ricky is a cool dude, a fighter of great heart and not without considerable ring talent. But he is much slower, smaller, possibly weaker, MUCH less skilled , less ring intelligent and will be fighting in the states. This is a mismatch of far more serious preportion than it's being expressed as. I think flyods dance-ambititons are all that could prevent a landslide...taking anyone for granted is a no-no in proffessional boxing as we've seen time and again. But if flyod is serious then so will be ricky's losing. My 2 cents...well maybe it was more like 10 cents ;) !

[Jose FM]

No, it's boxing - you fucking retarded bitch.

Blame the other fighter for not being able to counter the tactics.
Fuck your m*ther a$$hole.

[Pimp C]

Pot-shotting and moving back all night is running.
You;re a fool that doesn't know boxing. PBF can stick and move, brawl, walk him down or sit in the pocket against Hatton. He's just that damn good to do so. When will you fucks learn not to pick against PBF?:deal

[Ramshall1]

No, it's boxing - you fucking retarded bitch.

Blame the other fighter for not being able to counter the tactics.

I guess its the other guys fault that he doesnt have the balls to actually fight. . . its not supposed to be a track meet. Guys like Dirrell, Spinks and at time FMJ are part of the problem with boxing. . . .running is what Fraud did with Baldomir, that might be why Charles Barkley and Tiger Woods walked out of the fight . . .er track meet. . . thats why the crowd boo'd.

[Jose FM]

My mother would kick your fucking ass

How about you get in the ring, if "running" is so easy and is a way to win a championship - fuck, I'd take money on myself to catch you within two and cripple your ass.

Two seconds, that is.
Ha, i know that your a retard that is no where near nyc, so keep your empty promises to yourself, if you wanted some i you could gladly get it.

[Jose FM]

You;re a fool that doesn't know boxing. PBF can stick and move, brawl, walk him down or sit in the pocket against Hatton. He's just that damn good to do so. When will you fucks learn not to pick against PBF?:deal
Seriously if you knew boxing at all. You would know that Hatton is the best fighter hes fought since JLC, that being said on top of Gayrunner "dancing with the stars" he gonna find out that Hattons no Mitchell, Baldobum, judah, gatti, bruseles, corley.....

[Ramshall1]

Balls? You get in the fucking ring with De La Hoya, Baldomir or Hatton and see if you have the balls to stand infront and let them punch you.

It's called having a brain, utilising your skill and avoiding punishment - that's true boxing. You're a dopey fucking retard, if you can't give Floyd ANY respect, that's because you, yourself, are nothing but a fucking bum.

And newsflash, chico - they booed because it was a mismatch.

There wasn't a single fucking thing Baldomir could do in the fight, it was up to him to try and counter his opponents successful tactics and he didn't have the ability to do so.


Lets see. . .

Fraud told Margarito to his face that he would fight him, only to leave money on the table to duck him.

Fraud called out WInky, only to shut his big mouth when Winky agrees to fight him.

Fraud says he is gonna "stand and trade, not take a backward step, make it brutal, slice him up" about facing DLH. . . . he had no intention of even trying to back up his big mouth again.


These facts add up to COWARD in my book.

You seem to have your G-string all knotted up over Fraud. . . whats the matter are you another one of his bastard crack head children? He probably dont pay any child support for you anyway.

[Jose FM]

Balls? You get in the fucking ring with De La Hoya, Baldomir or Hatton and see if you have the balls to stand infront and let them punch you.

It's called having a brain, utilising your skill and avoiding punishment - that's true boxing. You're a dopey fucking retard, if you can't give Floyd ANY respect, that's because you, yourself, are nothing but a fucking bum.

And newsflash, chico - they booed because it was a mismatch.

There wasn't a single fucking thing Baldomir could do in the fight, it was up to him to try and counter his opponents successful tactics and he didn't have the ability to do so.
An over the hill DLH a$$face, but almost came away with the win... All his other comp above 135 were cherrypicked, and even Hatton is part of this cherrypicking but his gonna pay for this one.

[knockout]

Oh yeah he will to keep from gettin grabed.

[Jose FM]

Uh, hello, Oscar De La Hoya?

My thoughts are he wins this far more cleanly than he was able to beat De La Hoya.

Hatton is a good pressure fighter, with a good ability to get inside and do some damage via clinching, body punching and he tends to have endless stamina, all very good qualities

He's also faster in the hands than Baldomir - but definitely not faster than Oscar De La Hoya.

De La Hoya mapped a pathway for Floyd on what to expect from Hatton. Floyd will follow a similar pathway but we KNOW De La Hoya's chin stacks up, do we know that about Hatton?
If you knew anything you would know that first of, DLH is a counter puncher, and only the fact that he was so good allowed him to be the aggressor, and lets not forget the fact that DLH got tired was the only reason why Gayrunner won, so here we have someone in Hatton who is naturally the aggressor, and will have the stamina to fight all 12 rounds!

[Pimp C]

Balls? You get in the fucking ring with De La Hoya, Baldomir or Hatton and see if you have the balls to stand infront and let them punch you.

It's called having a brain, utilising your skill and avoiding punishment - that's true boxing. You're a dopey fucking retard, if you can't give Floyd ANY respect, that's because you, yourself, are nothing but a fucking bum.

And newsflash, chico - they booed because it was a mismatch.

There wasn't a single fucking thing Baldomir could do in the fight, it was up to him to try and counter his opponents successful tactics and he didn't have the ability to do so.
You can't argue with these fools man. They think anytime someone utilizes the sweet science in the ring it's running. I've always said these types would be better suited for UFC or WWF because they aren't boxing fans but fans of brawling.

[Slothrop]

Of course. That's what he does.

[Jose FM]

An over the hill De La Hoya? Fuck me you're a retard, a De La Hoya good enough to come back after a long absence and beat Mayorga, the same guy that was beating Forrest twice.

Yeah, make excuses for fighters when it doesn't fit reality. What are you going to say about Hatton when he gets his ass beat?

Seriously, FUCK OFF you fucking Redneck.
No not the guy that beat Forrest 2x at welter the Mayorga who since then had smoked crazy cigarrettes and made a stint at middleweight, and DLH fought as a counterpuncher (this style). DLH had fought 2x in almost 3 years and came away with a split decision against the so-called p4p. So its no twist a$$f*ck its reality.

By the way you idiot NY'ers arent Rednecks, you f*ckin' english hick!

[Jose FM]

Funny, DLH is NOT a counter puncher

He counter punched against Tito because it was the best chance he had at winning but he was the lead puncher against Mosley, Mayorga, Mayweather, Hopkins, Whitaker - fuck, nearly everyone he fought outside of Tito.

How about you learn something about boxing, you fucking redneck.
No he was a counter puncher since Mayweather became his trainer you fu*king retard!

[Ramshall1]

Those aren't facts at all, you fucking retard.

Did you see the Margarito contract? Do you know what Floyd was signing if he signed up to that? The freedom Floyd now has to pick and choose his promoter allows him to get more fights and more money.

Did Winky offer Floyd a contract before the Hopkins/Taylor fight? Could Winky come down to 147/154 on short notice?

Was Floyd supposed to let a Baldomir fight that gave him all of the belts, including WBC and Ring to take a fight with Margarito, a beatable half-champ that had a belt no one really cared about?

Was Floyd supposed to turn down the Oscar De La Hoya fight in place of another fight?

You're a fucking retard, is all you are.

I'm done with you, you're not a boxing fan, you're a fucking red neck.

Arum was on record as it being a "one fight deal, no futures" . . . not even Fraud bothered to come up with the stupid excuses you do.

Winky said he would make 154 to make the fight happen, Im sure Fraud thought he couldnt make the weight. . . thats probably why he called him out. FACT is Fraud called him out only to shut his big mouth when Winky accepted the challenges. . . . thats a fukcing coward, plain and simple. No matter how much you suck on his shriveled up balls.

WHo said he should have turned down DLH? Now your making up phantam arguments here.

He should have accepted Margaritos offer. . . he would have gotten free agency for the DLH fight instead of paying Goosen a cut (why do you think Goosen overpaid for the Baldy fight, cause he got a cut of the next one .. . . DLH) - thats how Fraud left money on the table to duck Margarito - :deal read it and weap Fraud Groupie. Yer hero is a coward, and thats that.

[KO Boxing]

Arum was on record
New to the sport?, I take it? :lol:

[Ramshall1]

Arum, a known liar who has said as much himself, trying to put pressure on Floyd to accept a fight with Margarito who wasn't worth the time

As proven by Williams.

Why should he have accepted Margarito's offer over the Baldomir offer? Answer that.

you still make stupid excuses. . . not even Fraud tried to make these excuses. He left money on the table to duck Margarito. . . the fact that Williams took a beating in order to get Margaritos belt just shows that Williams has the courage Fraud will probably never have.

Add to that Fraud pissed away the AM offer before Baldy beat Gatti. Its possible Gatti coulda outboxed Baldy and no one wanted a FMJ-Gatti rematch. Face it, Fraud had no intentions of ever getting in the ring with AM or Winky. . . even though he opened his big mouth and said he did. He's a ducker and a coward. If you wanna be a fan of that then so be it.

[Toopretty]

I like how you guys over estimate hatton and his so called tenaciousness and in fighting in which all he does every single fight is hold and hit and clinch when the guy starts to swing back..that is not in-fighting. Corrales Castillo 1 was in fighting..lol..Floyd will not run from hatton at all. Hatton comes forward with a sorry ass defense and short arms and he has absolutely no outside boxing game..Floyd will test him early and go from there..and be right dead in his face later when hatton tries to clinch for breaks like he always does and floyd will be punching him...

[Toopretty]

That same damned ODH would of knocked out most of the other 147 pound guys trying to move up..lol.that was a bullshit split..fuck the clowns..When Floyd beats the shit out of Hatton these whores will still run there lips.the same ones talking shit about floyd running from a fighter who is not even a combination puncher in which floyd would have to worry about ...Hatton is not Cotto..there floyd would not stand his ground...

[MSTR]

you are an utter jackass, plain and simple. Hattons game is to maul. . . Fraud will be on his bicycle the whole night just like he did with Baldomir. . . prepare for a track meet snoozefest. :good
Exactly. Hatton is one of the best in-fighters in boxing. Floyds biggest weakness is his in-ability to put combinations together at times. Hatton will thoroughly out work floyd in close, but at range floyd will dominate. Floyd is a very intelligent fighter, and will box and move all night. If he does stand his ground it will be for very short spurts only, DEFINITELY not for long periods of time.

[MSTR]

I disagree. There will be a number of times where Floyd comes forward in this fight, really sitting down on his punches, LOOKING for a stoppage.
You seriously need to watch more Mayweather fights. It is not in his nature. He is a beautiful counter puncher not a KO artist. YOu are HEAVILY under rating Hatton. Floyd couldnt' do that to guys like Sosa, how will he do it to Hatton?

[MSTR]

I dunno, Floyd still packed punch at 140 - Collazo wasn't a huge pucher at 147 and seemed to have a definite effect on Hatton throughout that fight.

I expect that Floyd will box - after all, why wouldn't he? The people who don't enjoy a boxer baffle me, Floyd doesn't run - Floyd uses his advantages to beat his opponent in a contest.

This isn't stand in the middle of the ring and punch each other until someone falls down, this is boxing.

How about appreciating the high level of skill employed by any defensive minded fighter to avoid punchers from a powerful puncher while maintaining a better punch accuracy throughout the fight.

Boxers don't run - they get in the ring, that alone takes balls - they're not going up against the Charlie Zelenoffs - they're going up against guys who have trained for years and years and years perfecting their technique to try and hurt you.

In the case of Floyd where he's gone through five weight classes, spanning very nearly 20% his original body weight at 130 - give the man his fucking due or fuck off and watch UFC or some other stupid fighting competition similar to it.
I agree mate. I love a good boxer, who uses his superior skills to get the victory. Hit and NOT get hit is the name of the game. The different styles is part of the beauty of boxing. Its what gives it so much diversity.

[Jose FM]

So what are you going to say once Floyd beats Hatton?

I can see it now "Hatton was just like Mitchell, Baldobum, judah, gatti, bruseles, corely..."
No, im gonna say, "now he needs to fight the winner of Mosley/ Cotto." But i already know what im gonna say, Hatton needs to make his first defense againt DLH in London.

[Jose FM]

OMG Mayweather could've knocked out Oscar and YOU wouldn't have seen him hurt DLH.... Floyd did hurt Oscar once or twice, he buckled his legs with 2 right hands off the ropes in the 5th or 6th and at the end of one of the rounds he sent the golden boy stumbling back to his corner. And for the record I don't think Oscar got tired because he trained hard and wasn't keeping an incredibly high workrate he just got frustrated, put his jab away, and Floyd started throwing combinations (by his definition of the word, 2 punches at a time).
You are talking about the end of the round when DLH was going back and was hit by one right, and it was made to look like Mayweather hurt DLH, but he wasnt hurt. The hardest shot of the night was landed on Mayweather in the 12th round.
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[Ramshall1]

If Arum had all this money on the table

Why did he say he couldn't back-out of the Gomez fight when Floyd offered Tony a shot after Judah lost to Baldomir??

WHY WAS HE FIGHTING THAT BUM IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Gomez was SHOT and UNRANKED...but Arum claimed he could'd pay that palooka off:patsch

Only a fool would believe that..

Arum never intended to put that MUMMY in the ring with Floyd..He just just played you haters like dueling banjos:rofl :rofl :rofl

AM was training to fight Gomez, only a dumb manager would have him switch gears and fight the defensive FMJ in mid camp.

AM offered Fraud a fight with full notice for a full training camp. He offered to take short money so Fraud can get paid. . . Fraud still left money on the table to duck him. He called out Winky with no intention of actually fighting him. He's a scumbag and a coward.

[Toopretty]

How about another gay avatar bet...those who pick against mayweather ..will always lose b/c they dont know shit about boxing...

[Toopretty]

You are talking about the end of the round when DLH was going back and was hit by one right, and it was made to look like Mayweather hurt DLH, but he wasnt hurt. The hardest shot of the night was landed on Mayweather in the 12th round.
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Nice cherry pick homo..if it was so hard..why is floyd not hurt...lol...shit if anything if floyd can take flush ODH shots and not be hurt in the slightest..then you look like a clown as always

[Lance_Uppercut]

Nice cherry pick homo..if it was so hard..why is floyd not hurt...lol...shit if anything if floyd can take flush ODH shots and not be hurt in the slightest..then you look like a clown as always

How do you know he was not hurt? Guys do not need to have wobbled legs just to be hurt. This is boxing with strong men hittong one another. Punches hurt FFS. :patsch

[Jose FM]

Nice cherry pick homo..if it was so hard..why is floyd not hurt...lol...shit if anything if floyd can take flush ODH shots and not be hurt in the slightest..then you look like a clown as always
It was the hardest shot dickhead.

[Pimp C]

How about another gay avatar bet...those who pick against mayweather ..will always lose b/c they dont know shit about boxing...
:deal :good These fucks will never learn.

[Toopretty]

If hatton is such a good in-fighter..why did Collazo who is an average at best in fighter beat his ass on the INSIDE. Slip his shots and landed his..ALL NIGHT. A good-great in-fighter would make an adjustment and not get his ass whooped. And Collazo unlocked the key to Hattons ass. He throws the same two punches..left hook thrown under and right hand thrown over the top over and over. and over. He has good hand speed but not in combination and damned for sure cant put a combination together on the inside b/c he puts too much on his one punch.

[Pimp C]

I agree at the end of the 12th, I'm not here to argue who hurt who worse because the fact is neither one of them was hurt badly, but Floyd stumbled Oscar once, and ....

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First right hand stumbled oscar backwards and the 2nd one buckled his knees.
Jose FM OWNED once again!:lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl

[Jose FM]

I agree at the end of the 12th, I'm not here to argue who hurt who worse because the fact is neither one of them was hurt badly, but Floyd stumbled Oscar once, and ....

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First right hand stumbled oscar backwards and the 2nd one buckled his knees.

Ive seen that one. It was a good one by Mayweather.

Go back and watch the last 25 secs of the last round, and youll see DLH landed the hardest shot of the night.

[Toopretty]

How do you know he was not hurt? Guys do not need to have wobbled legs just to be hurt. This is boxing with strong men hittong one another. Punches hurt FFS. :patsch


B/c Floyd fought back..when he got hit he didnt stumble put his guard up or anything to even give the notion he was hurt in the slightest..If you seen floyds fights you seen when he was stunned or hurt..:patsch

[Jose FM]

Why would Hatton need to make his first defense against DLH?
Cause DLH is the most powerful fighter on the planet and fights whoever he wants, and DLH himself said that he would fight Hatton next if he wins.

[boxbox]

he's gonna want to, but it wont happen cause Hatton will likely cut the distance between them,,thats Rickys' style. and its much harder sidestepping than coming forward. It all depends on how Ricky could hurt Floyd. If the punch hurts Floyd, then he will box the whole fight. If not, i think he'll go toe to toe, for the fans. i hope.

[Ramshall1]

28 to 25. :lol:

[klion22]

It depends on how much effect a punch of Mayweather's has on Hatton.

Watch him in fights like Gatti, Corrales and even to a shorter extent, Judah... once he realised his punches were racking up true damage, he went forward and was more willing to stand and fight against his opposition.

Watch him against Baldomir, Oscar De La Hoya or Castillo where his punches weren't having the impact, that's where he boxed from the outside and used his advantages to win.

If he hurts Hatton and can see it, then you might just find him coming forward - if his punches have no effect on Hatton, he'll box him.

Good take.

[Ramshall1]

Fraud will run cause thats what she does.

[Jersey Boxer]

he's gonna run...strick and move, stick and move...I hope hatton KO's his trash talkin mouth...

[PJ]

revisited...

[pipe wrenched]

It depends on how much effect a punch of Mayweather's has on Hatton.

Watch him in fights like Gatti, Corrales and even to a shorter extent, Judah... once he realised his punches were racking up true damage, he went forward and was more willing to stand and fight against his opposition.

Watch him against Baldomir, Oscar De La Hoya or Castillo where his punches weren't having the impact, that's where he boxed from the outside and used his advantages to win.

If he hurts Hatton and can see it, then you might just find him coming forward - if his punches have no effect on Hatton, he'll box him.

Fine post Blocky. Sums it up on the money.:good

[igotJUIC3]

bottom line is if he feels he can tacke what Hatton dishes out he will be agressive it wont matter if Hatton can take or not what Floyd dishes...If Floyd feels Hatton can't hurt him then he will be on Hatton's ass.

It will be like the Gatti fight...and NO it wont be the same result or anything of that nature but im saying in that fight Gatti couldnt hurt him nor catch him with a good punch and Floyd was all over his ass.

[keepemup]

Y'all remember the 11th round of the first Castillo fight? Floyd knows how to bang with the best of them.

[nickthegreek]

Uh, hello, Oscar De La Hoya?

My thoughts are he wins this far more cleanly than he was able to beat De La Hoya.

Hatton is a good pressure fighter, with a good ability to get inside and do some damage via clinching, body punching and he tends to have endless stamina, all very good qualities

He's also faster in the hands than Baldomir - but definitely not faster than Oscar De La Hoya.

De La Hoya mapped a pathway for Floyd on what to expect from Hatton. Floyd will follow a similar pathway but we KNOW De La Hoya's chin stacks up, do we know that about Hatton?

Course we know that. He took Tzyzu's best right hands all night and Kostya hits like a truck compared to Floyd who admittedly can punch himself, he doesn't have the power to seriously hurt Hatton though.

[igotJUIC3]

i think he stuns Hatton and makes him respect his power but i dont know if he can hurt him with just one punch.

[PH|LLA]

He won't run all night like say Spinks would do, but he'll definately try to stay on the outside and move away from Hatton. The same way Hatton won't hold like someone like Ruiz would do, but he'll definately try to take the fight on the inside and smother Mayweather.

[PH|LLA]

PBF is the superior inside fighter IMO, Ricky just holds and hits. He has a very underrated indside boxing game and is way more accurate than Hatton. Not to mention his body work is underrate as well.
You're wrong.

[ayala]

i would say box him stick my combos and move out the way

[Bummy Davis]

It depends on the pressure Hatton puts on him, If Floyd can box and move he will, Hatton has to break his rythym and rough him up, off beat, He may force Floyd to have to mix and then it will boil down to speed and acurate punching vs solid body work and roughness and unorthodox style......Who can impose there will.......I think Hatton can do it once Floyd settles down but both men can hurt the other, Ricky is got to punch,punch,punch, ears,elbows,neck....Floyd has got to box ,move and pinpoint punch.....who can do the most for 12 rds.....Ricky cant let Floyd get comfortable.....then it will be an exciting fight

[pudding]

Floyd Mayweather is a defensive boxer. Why are you people always bitching about it? :huh

[Pro]

Lets see. . .

Fraud told Margarito to his face that he would fight him, only to leave money on the table to duck him.

Fraud called out WInky, only to shut his big mouth when Winky agrees to fight him.

Fraud says he is gonna "stand and trade, not take a backward step, make it brutal, slice him up" about facing DLH. . . . he had no intention of even trying to back up his big mouth again.


These facts add up to COWARD in my book.

You seem to have your G-string all knotted up over Fraud. . . whats the matter are you another one of his bastard crack head children? He probably dont pay any child support for you anyway.

38-0 6 title's 6 different weight classes!!!!

Nuff said stop hatin!

[LeadLeftHook]

Hatton walks at around 170lbs so hes naturally much bigger than Mayweather

[surreal deal]

No thats ridiculous.he'll be sitting down in between rounds.

[Dorfmeister]

I see Mayweather with his back against the ropes and moving along the ropes more than most expect. Ricky is very strong and sharp enough so that Floyd can push him back and take chances in the center of the ring. Floyd can't circle this guy that easy too cause he's fast with his feet, but I wouldn't say it goes 12 for sure cause Hatton is gonna spend too much energy early and Mayweather can come out much fresher late. But I would bet with that certainty that Mayweather does more miles going backwards than sideways.

[Ramshall1]

38-0 6 title's 6 different weight classes!!!!

Nuff said stop hatin!

doesnt address my point one bit. . . simply nut ridin.

[Ramshall1]

Fraud told Margarito to his face that he would fight him, only to leave money on the table to duck him.

Fraud called out WInky, only to shut his big mouth when Winky agrees to fight him.

Fraud says he is gonna "stand and trade, not take a backward step, make it brutal, slice him up" about facing DLH. . . . he had no intention of even trying to back up his big mouth again.


These facts add up to COWARD in my book.

[BigReg]

Fraud told Margarito to his face that he would fight him, only to leave money on the table to duck him.

Fraud called out WInky, only to shut his big mouth when Winky agrees to fight him.

Fraud says he is gonna "stand and trade, not take a backward step, make it brutal, slice him up" about facing DLH. . . . he had no intention of even trying to back up his big mouth again.


These facts add up to COWARD in my book.

We know how you feel. You've kept repeating this over and over again for who knows how long.

[psychopath]

Thoughts?

No! It will be a combination of both.

PBF is a smart fighter and he very well knows he can't let Hatton settle down and make an adjustment so he'll mix it up and move from time to time. He can't let Hatton figure out what he's gonna do in the next round.

[Pimp C]

We know how you feel. You've kept repeating this over and over again for who knows how long.
It really shows how obssessed, crazy and irrational this guy is. PBF is a proven talent which can't be argued and if he never fought again already an ATG. But to this fool he's never proven himself and is a coward.:-( You can hate but come on Ram takes it to a whole different level.

[Ramshall1]

We know how you feel. You've kept repeating this over and over again for who knows how long.

I was responding to someone who addressed the subject. You can ignore the truth if you choose to.

[Ramshall1]

It really shows how obssessed, crazy and irrational this guy is. PBF is a proven talent which can't be argued and if he never fought again already an ATG. But to this fool he's never proven himself and is a coward.:-( You can hate but come on Ram takes it to a whole different level.

Ive listed several reasons why I consider him a coward - if you want to address those points feel free, if not you are only further proving those points to be valid.

[Pimp C]

Fraud says he is gonna "stand and trade, not take a backward step, make it brutal, slice him up" about facing DLH. . . . he had no intention of even trying to back up his big mouth again.


These facts add up to COWARD in my book.
Why so he can stand and trade with a bigger an stronger man and possibly get knocked out so you can discredit everything he's done in his career and call him a fraud?:-( Most boxers talk shit before the fight it's called selling the fight.:patsch Hell Oscar said he was going to KO PBF but did it happen?:deal

[Pimp C]

Ive listed several reasons why I consider him a coward - if you want to address those points feel free, if not you are only further proving those points to be valid.
First off no boxer is a coward for getting in the ring in the first place so lets get that out of the way right now. You throw around that word to loosely.:nono By calling PBF a coward right off the bat you lose credibility right there. If you can't admit to that then why even have a discussion?
Fights don't happen for a number of reasons the money isn't right or a conflict between promoters or maybe timming but it's not because one fighter is scarred of another one like you make it out to be.:deal

[Ramshall1]

Why so he can stand and trade with a bigger an stronger man and possibly get knocked out so you can discredit everything he's done in his career and call him a fraud?:-( Most boxers talk shit before the fight it's called selling the fight.:patsch Hell Oscar said he was going to KO PBF but did it happen?:deal

difference is DLH actually tried to back his words up. . . Fraud had no intention of even trying to back up his big mouth. I he had said "hey Im gonna outbox him" or "Im gonna give him a boxing lesson" - that would earn more respect.

When Toney said to RJJ b4 they fought "put on yer track shoes biitch". . . RJJ replied "thats my game".

[Ramshall1]

First off no boxer is a coward for getting in the ring in the first place so lets get that out of the way right now. You throw around that word to loosely.:nono By calling PBF a coward right off the bat you lose credibility right there. If you can't admit to that then why even have a discussion?
Fights don't happen for a number of reasons the money isn't right or a conflict between promoters or maybe timming but it's not because one fighter is scarred of another one like you make it out to be.:deal

Bullshiit. My friend has alot of cops in his family and frined etc . . .he knows a cop who drives the other way when he hears a call on the radio involving domestic violence with a weapon - he's a cop and he's a coward. Fruad runs the other way when he has a real top threat Winky/Margarito etc (arguably KT and a prime Shane as well). He has proven himself . . .er herself to be a coward more than once.

[Pimp C]

Bullshiit. My friend has alot of cops in his family and frined etc . . .he knows a cop who drives the other way when he hears a call on the radio involving domestic violence with a weapon - he's a cop and he's a coward. Fruad runs the other way when he has a real top threat Winky/Margarito etc (arguably KT and a prime Shane as well). He has proven himself . . .er herself to be a coward more than once.
You see what I mean.?:patsch
What you fail to realize is that in boxing there are many different styles and some are sluggers, some are boxer punchers PBF is a defensive counter-puncher. I can appreciate all styles but you seem to have a problem with his. Just because you don't agree with the way he handles his business in the ring doesn't make him a coward and most here will agree with me on this. You sound like someone who really doesn't understand boxing or have some kind of deep irrational hate for a man you don't know when you say stupid shit like that. Another thing is when PBF fought at 130, 135 and 140 he took more risks in the ring because he was fighting men his size. Watch his earlier fights if you don't believe me. If you're going to move up to a weightclasses that people are bigger you're going have to box more in order to be successful or you will be KOed by bigger and stronger men and only a fool or irrational hater like yourself would continue to argue otherwise.:deal

[Symphenyceo]

You see what I mean.?:patsch
What you fail to realize is that in boxing there are many different styles and some are sluggers, some are boxer punchers PBF is a defensive counter-puncher. I can appreciate all styles but you seem to have a problem with his. Just because you don't agree with the way he handles his business in the ring doesn't make him a coward and most here will agree with me on this. You sound like someone who really doesn't understand boxing or have some kind of deep irrational hate for a man you don't know when you say stupid shit like that. Another thing is when PBF fought at 130, 135 and 140 he took more risks in the ring because he was fighting men his size. Watch his earlier fights if you don't believe me. If you're going to move up to a weightclasses that people are bigger you're going have to box more in order to be successful or you will be KOed by bigger and stronger men and only a fool or irrational hater like yourself would continue to argue otherwise.:deal


Amen to that:good

[Knob McDude]

It depends on how much effect a punch of Mayweather's has on Hatton.

Watch him in fights like Gatti, Corrales and even to a shorter extent, Judah... once he realised his punches were racking up true damage, he went forward and was more willing to stand and fight against his opposition.

Watch him against Baldomir, Oscar De La Hoya or Castillo where his punches weren't having the impact, that's where he boxed from the outside and used his advantages to win.

If he hurts Hatton and can see it, then you might just find him coming forward - if his punches have no effect on Hatton, he'll box him.


Great post dude.

[LockDog387]

You see what I mean.?:patsch
What you fail to realize is that in boxing there are many different styles and some are sluggers, some are boxer punchers PBF is a defensive counter-puncher. I can appreciate all styles but you seem to have a problem with his. Just because you don't agree with the way he handles his business in the ring doesn't make him a coward and most here will agree with me on this. You sound like someone who really doesn't understand boxing or have some kind of deep irrational hate for a man you don't know when you say stupid shit like that. Another thing is when PBF fought at 130, 135 and 140 he took more risks in the ring because he was fighting men his size. Watch his earlier fights if you don't believe me. If you're going to move up to a weightclasses that people are bigger you're going have to box more in order to be successful or you will be KOed by bigger and stronger men and only a fool or irrational hater like yourself would continue to argue otherwise.:deal
There is no doubt that Mayweather was more offensive when he was fighting at 130, 135 and 140. None the less it's kind of irrittating to see him pot shot Baldomir to death, when he could of been at least more offensive. I'm a fan of the sweet swience and I appreciate counter-punchers, but just because he's in a heigher weight class is no excuse for him to pot shot his opponents all night. I've seen his earlier fights and they were exciting no doubt, but how is he going to win potshotting guys like Cotto or Clottey? On top of that he's also a prick when picking his opponents. He chose to fighy Ricky Hatton who's not even a welterweight, but I think your seriously underestimating Hatton if you think he's one dimensional. I see the fight as 50-50, closer than most of you guys think. I think the fight with Hatton and Collazo was just a bad night for Hatton, because he showed against Urango that he can box.

[Symphenyceo]

There is no doubt that Mayweather was more offensive when he was fighting at 130, 135 and 140. None the less it's kind of irrittating to see him pot shot Baldmir to death, when he could of been at least more offensive. I'm a fan of the sweet swience and I appreciate counter-punchers, but just because he's in a heigher weight class is no excuse for him to pot shot his opponents all night. I've seen his earlier fights and they were exciting no doubt, but how is he going to win potshotting guys like Cotto or Clottey? On top of that he's also a prick when picking his opponents. He chose to fighy Ricky Hatton who's not even a welterweight, but I think your seriously underestimating Hatton if you think he's one dimensional. I see the fight as 50-50, closer than most of you guys think. I think the fight with Hatton and Collazo was just a bad night for Hatton, because he showed against Urango that he can box.

:patsch ...He pot shot baldomir because baldomir was 162lb in the ring with floyd..it would have been dumb for him to stand there and that would have made the fight easier than baldomir..also clottey doesnt deserve to fight floyd he already lost to margarito and baldomir..the only one that deserves to fight floyd is cotto

[Pimp C]

There is no doubt that Mayweather was more offensive when he was fighting at 130, 135 and 140. None the less it's kind of irrittating to see him pot shot Baldmir to death, when he could of been at least more offensive. I'm a fan of the sweet swience and I appreciate counter-punchers, but just because he's in a heigher weight class is no excuse for him to pot shot his opponents all night. I've seen his earlier fights and they were exciting no doubt, but how is he going to win potshotting guys like Cotto or Clottey? On top of that he's also a prick when picking his opponents. He chose to fighy Ricky Hatton who's not even a welterweight, but I think your seriously underestimating Hatton if you think he's one dimensional. I see the fight as 50-50, closer than most of you guys think. I think the fight with Hatton and Collazo was just a bad night for Hatton, because he showed against Urango that he can box.
I respect your opinion and I think we are almost on the same page. PBF just fought at 154 a weight he has no business at and beat Oscar a truely great accomplishment. He tried to fight Hatton back in 2005 at 140 after Hatton beat Zoo but was turned down more than once. This fight is unfinished business that has to be resolved. PBF is really a 140 pound fighter so the fight being at 147 is a non factor really, especially when Ricky on fight night for his fights at 140 weighs-in close to 150. I think PBF will win but I don't think it will be easy.:good

[LockDog387]

:patsch ...He pot shot baldomir because baldomir was 162lb in the ring with floyd..it would have been dumb for him to stand there and that would have made the fight easier than baldomir..also clottey doesnt deserve to fight floyd he already lost to margarito and baldomir..the only one that deserves to fight floyd is cotto
Yes it would of been dumb, but I'm not saying he should of trade blow for blow with him, but he could of been more offensive. Guys like Ray Leonard will always give what the fans want, and beat there opponents down.

[Toopretty]

Thank you Pimp C and others for holding down the fort and telling it like it is. Floyd running from hatton would be pointless. Hatton is only a threat when he is right in your face. Other then that floyd would stand dead in front of him at normal range and beat the shit out of him. If hatton tries to grapple and hold him when he gets in breathing distance you damned right floyd is going to stay at range to avoid the wrestling.

[JMotrain]

Yes Floyd will run. What makes Hatton any different than Baldomir or Castillo?

[MancMexican]

Floyd is comparably sized to Hatton unlike he was against DLH and Baldomir and so does not have a massive size/strength disadvantage to compensate with boxing ability. Therefore he will show more aggression but he a defensive counter-puncher and hatton is a brawler so its a no brainer how the fight will look. Hatton knows that he has NO CHANCE to outbox PBF so he will not even try it (unlike poor Gatti) and he'll bulldoze forward all night so PBF will be forced onto the backfoot by Hatton's style. It's hardly rocket science.

[LockDog387]

Thank you Pimp C and others for holding down the fort and telling it like it is. Floyd running from hatton would be pointless. Hatton is only a threat when he is right in your face. Other then that floyd would stand dead in front of him at normal range and beat the shit out of him. If hatton tries to grapple and hold him when he gets in breathing distance you damned right floyd is going to stay at range to avoid the wrestling.
Your underestimating Hatton if you think Mayweather will just blow right past him or it's another "Gatti" fight. Hatton is a better boxer than you give him credit for. As for Floyd running, well he shouldn't be running in any of his fights. There is a difference between running and being defensive. I think he will fight Hatton like he did Baldomir, on the outside.

[Mindspring]

[quote=Pimp C]PBF is the superior inside fighter IMO, Riclly just holds and hits. He has a very underrated indside boxing game and is way more accurate than Hatton. Not to mention his body work is underrate as well.[/que]

Watch the Hatton body shots. :yep

[Symphenyceo]

Thank you Pimp C and others for holding down the fort and telling it like it is. Floyd running from hatton would be pointless. Hatton is only a threat when he is right in your face. Other then that floyd would stand dead in front of him at normal range and beat the shit out of him. If hatton tries to grapple and hold him when he gets in breathing distance you damned right floyd is going to stay at range to avoid the wrestling.

:good Exactly floyd will stand infront of hatton but the only problem hatton will hold..holding is not infighting.if hatton tries his WWE shit floyd will use his footwork and have a POT SHOT PARTY on hattons face..if hatton stands there in close range floyd wont move he'll trade with him

[Symphenyceo]

Your underestimating Hatton if you think Mayweather will just blow right past him or it's another "Gatti" fight. Hatton is a better boxer than you give him credit for. As for Floyd running, well he shouldn't be running in any of his fights. There is a difference between running and being defensive. I think he will fight Hatton like he did Baldomir, on the outside.

:patsch Floyd doesnt run !!..its called footwork something that is very important in boxing. like i said if hatton stands there shoulder to shoulder with floyd and fight floyd will stand there with him.but if hatton tries to rush him then by common sense floyd is going to move

[hmi]

I voted no. But I'm surprised that more people think that PBF will run the entire fight (73) than him fighting toe-to-toe (56). I can see so many PBF haters here. Floyd will not feel small when fighting Hatton. Hence, I think Floyd will have KO in his mind the whole fight. I like Hatton to win though but my mind says Floyd will win.

[OklahomaHoss]

Well Im sure Im not the first to point this out but what have we seen from Floyd to assume that he'd do anything except run? That's what he does. It's how he fights.

I was noticing that even in the "publicity" workouts where he's supposd to be showing us just how "bad" he is, he just pitty-pats the pads and there's never any real power in his punches.

Hatton on the other hand hits like a truck and Floyd knows this. He'll definitely be running.

[Pimp C]

Well Im sure Im not the first to point this out but what have we seen from Floyd to assume that he'd do anything except run? That's what he does. It's how he fights.

I was noticing that even in the "publicity" workouts where he's supposd to be showing us just how "bad" he is, he just pitty-pats the pads and there's never any real power in his punches.

Hatton on the other hand hits like a truck and Floyd knows this. He'll definitely be running.
The ignorance in this thread is ridiculous.:patsch I wonder if people like yourself actually have a clue to how stupid you sound. Do yourself a favor and learn the sport before making dumbass comments like this.:thumbsup

[LockDog387]

:patsch Floyd doesnt run !!..its called footwork something that is very important in boxing. like i said if hatton stands there shoulder to shoulder with floyd and fight floyd will stand there with him.but if hatton tries to rush him then by common sense floyd is going to move

I never said he was running.

[dave82]

Well Im sure Im not the first to point this out but what have we seen from Floyd to assume that he'd do anything except run? That's what he does. It's how he fights.

I was noticing that even in the "publicity" workouts where he's supposd to be showing us just how "bad" he is, he just pitty-pats the pads and there's never any real power in his punches.

Hatton on the other hand hits like a truck and Floyd knows this. He'll definitely be running.

Do us all a favour and NEVER post a message ever again. :hi:

[OklahomaHoss]

The ignorance in this thread is ridiculous.:patsch I wonder if people like yourself actually have a clue to how stupid you sound. Do yourself a favor and learn the sport before making dumbass comments like this.:thumbsup


Someone with a Naseem Hamed AV is lecturing me about having a clue?

Find yourself a new idol, skeeziks.

[OklahomaHoss]

Do us all a favour and NEVER post a message ever again. :hi:


Yea, I'll just get right on that.

[Pimp C]

Someone with a Naseem Hamed AV is lecturing me about having a clue?

Find yourself a new idol, skeeziks.
You're a fucking idiot man sorry but someone had to tell you. You're not in my league Hoss I would burry you with my boxing knowledge.

[badger6]

You're a fucking idiot man sorry but someone had to tell you. You're not in my league Hoss I would burry you with my boxing knowledge.

I doubt that very much. What I don't doubt, is that he would probably kick your ass back to 1983 if you had the balls to say shit like that to him in person !!!:thumbsup

[OklahomaHoss]

You're a fucking idiot man sorry but someone had to tell you. You're not in my league Hoss I would burry you with my boxing knowledge.



You can have all the knoweledge in the world, big boy, but still be an idiot.

[OklahomaHoss]

I doubt that very much. What I don't doubt, is that he would probably kick your ass back to 1983 if you had the balls to say shit like that to him in person !!!:thumbsup



Thanks for the props, Badger. These guys like to wear their delusions on their sleeves. State the obvious (i.e. Mayweather is a running coward) and they flip out. Fuck 'em.

[Pimp C]

Thanks for the props, Badger. These guys like to wear their delusions on their sleeves. State the obvious (i.e. Mayweather is a running coward) and they flip out. Fuck 'em.
I already owned another poster in this thread for calling PBF a coward, don't make me do the same to you. You've obviously never spent any time in the ring or you wouldn't call any fighter a coward.:deal Have some fucking respect.

[OklahomaHoss]

Quit sticking up for you butt buddy ESB village idiot (aka "Badger69").



Pimp and Unbeatable. Listen to me carefully. You are losers. I came in here and posted my opinion, which also happens to be a fact.

If you can't take differing opinions, don't make threads.

Your boy Floyd should be running track. He runs and he pitty-pats. Deal with it.

[OklahomaHoss]

I already owned another poster in this thread for calling PBF a coward, don't make me do the same to you. You've obviously never spent any time in the ring or you wouldn't call any fighter a coward.:deal Have some fucking respect.



First, you'll never "own" me, little boy. You don't have the ammunition. You're outgunned all the way.

And second, this is not a debate. There's no dissolution of the facts. And they are irrefutable.


Floyd.


Is.


A.


No-power.


No-heart.


payday.


Fan-alienating.


Coward.

[Pimp C]

Pimp and Unbeatable. Listen to me carefully. You are losers. I came in here and posted my opinion, which also happens to be a fact.

If you can't take differing opinions, don't make threads.

Your boy Floyd should be running track. He runs and he pitty-pats. Deal with it.
A runner whose 38-0 won titles in 5 weightclasses and P4P #1 boxer in the world what a geat track star he must be.:patsch I wonder how he continues to outland and outpoint all of his opponents if he's always running? I wonder how he has 24 KOs on his record if he's always running? Could it be they all got tired and fell out from exhaustion??:think Or maybe it's because PBF is the best boxer in the world today and has dominated 90% of the boxers his been in the ring with. Do you have any idea how pathetic you sound? Quit hating and appreciate greatness when it's in your fucking face...dumbass.:hi:

[badger6]

Quit sticking up for you butt buddy ESB village idiot (aka "Badger69").

I think these will bring back memories for you. Cause you've been voted "Village Idiot", not me.

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You lose !!!! Good bye !!!

[OklahomaHoss]

Your boy Wlad should undergo a chin replacement. He pitty-pats his jab and throws his right once every other round. Deal with it.


Yea, and I"ll have to console myself that he's currently the best in his division, and utterly destroyed, with that pitty pat jab, the last person to beat him.

[Pimp C]

First, you'll never "own" me, little boy. You don't have the ammunition. You're outgunned all the way.

And second, this is not a debate. There's no dissolution of the facts. And they are irrefutable.


Floyd.


Is.


A.


No-power.


No-heart.


payday.


Fan-alienating.


Coward.
Ok rainbow boy you win.:lol:
I wonder how a guy that's a sure fire HOF boxer gets in by being a coward? You're a fucking idiot you have no respect for the sport calling boxers cowards and shit you should quit posting here troll. Because on Dec 8th you'll be the first asshole I call out after that coward notches career win #39 over your boy hatton.:hi:

[badger6]

Ok rainbow boy you win.:lol:
I wonder how a guy that's a sure fire HOF boxer gets in by being a coward? You're a fucking idiot you have no respect for the sport calling boxers cowards and shit you should quit posting here troll. Because on Dec 8th you'll be the first asshole I call out after that coward notches career win #39 over your boy hatton.:hi:

Only IF he wins !!! Otherwise you'll be here crying and making excuses like a little sissy girl !!!

[joe the great]

I hope he stands in the pocket. If he does Ricky will beat his ass down.

[OklahomaHoss]

A runner whose 38-0 won titles in 5 weightclasses and P4P #1 boxer in the world what a geat track star he must be.:patsch I wonder how he continues to outland and outpoint all of his opponents if he's always running? I wonder how he has 24 KOs on his record if he's always running? Could it be they all got tired and fell out from exhaustion??:think Or maybe it's because PBF is the best boxer in the world today and has dominated 90% of the boxers his been in the ring with. Do you have any idea how pathetic you sound? Quit hating and appreciate greatness when it's in your fucking face...dumbass.:hi:


The fact that he wins isn't the topic. We all know he wins. His "O" shows us that.

And dear god, please tell me I didn't just hear you praising his ko power!

Aside from Corrales, (I'll give him that one) the only people he's ever KO'd have been tomato cans or so shot they were worse than tomato cans.

But he's still a runner. He'll never make an exciting fight. He's a bore to watch and he's constantly losing fans.



Im surprised you can bring yourself to say you're a fan of his, really.

Now just stop it. You're embarrassing yourself. Really.

[OklahomaHoss]

I think these will bring back memories for you. Cause you've been voted "Village Idiot", not me.

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You lose !!!! Good bye !!!


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Good one Badger!

[OklahomaHoss]

Ok rainbow boy you win.:lol:
I wonder how a guy that's a sure fire HOF boxer gets in by being a coward? You're a fucking idiot you have no respect for the sport calling boxers cowards and shit you should quit posting here troll. Because on Dec 8th you'll be the first asshole I call out after that coward notches career win #39 over your boy hatton.:hi:


If he's ever put into the HOF, then the HOF will have a coward in it.


And on Dec 8th, I'll be right here.

[OklahomaHoss]

Floyd could buy Wlad and his sister.:deal



Dont be fooled, brother. Don't be fooled. Floyd doesn't have the money he wants you to THINK he has.

If he did, he wouldn't feel the need to try to impress us and eveyone else with how much he has.

You dont see Wlad and Vitali or DLH, or any of the other hugely rich boxers out there doing that shit do you?

You know why?

Floyd has no class. He sucks. As a fighter, and as a man.

[badger6]

Floyd could buy Wlad and his sister.:deal
And Wlad could beat that little prick Floyd to death with one arm tied behind his back !!!:lol:

Dont be fooled, brother. Don't be fooled. Floyd doesn't have the money he wants you to THINK he has.

If he did, he wouldn't feel the need to try to impress us and eveyone else with how much he has.

You dont see Wlad and Vitali or DLH, or any of the other hugely rich boxers out there doing that shit do you?

You know why?

Floyd has no class. He sucks. As a fighter, and as a man.:good

[igotJUIC3]

Dont be fooled, brother. Don't be fooled. Floyd doesn't have the money he wants you to THINK he has.

If he did, he wouldn't feel the need to try to impress us and eveyone else with how much he has.

You dont see Wlad and Vitali or DLH, or any of the other hugely rich boxers out there doing that shit do you?

You know why?

Floyd has no class. He sucks. As a fighter, and as a man.


now thats pure hate...even the people who dont like his style dont say he sucks as a fighter....try being open minded....it looks as if you dont like PBF on a personal note.....i dont see how people dis-like a person they never met so much...i can understand not caring for him but all the demeaning comments suggest you do.

[OklahomaHoss]

And Wlad could beat that little prick Floyd to death with one arm tied behind his back !!!:lol:

:good



:thumbsup

[bigtime9]

Dont be fooled, brother. Don't be fooled. Floyd doesn't have the money he wants you to THINK he has

he has more money than your broke trailer trash ass:thumbsup and that is what counts:scaredas:

[OklahomaHoss]

now thats pure hate...even the people who dont like his style dont say he sucks as a fighter....try being open minded....it looks as if you dont like PBF on a personal note.....i dont see how people dis-like a person they never met so much...i can understand not caring for him but all the demeaning comments suggest you do.


You dont have to personally know someone to have a legitimate reason to dislike them.

Hitler may have been a swell guy to his friends, but I absolutely hate him (even if he is dead).

Yes, that's an extreme example, and no, Im not comparing Floyd to Hitler.

My point is this:

If you see someone exhibit scumbag behavior, then you have every reason to dislke them. Whether or not you know them.

What I know OF Floyd, and the behavior I've seen him display make me dislike him.

So far, he has proven to me, and to everyone who's ever watched him express himself, to be a crass, arrogant, insecure crybaby who only cares about himself.

He's made this perfectly clear with the behavior he's exhibited. I don't have to personally know him. But based on what I've seen, I can safely say that he does indeed, suck, as a man.

[OklahomaHoss]

he has more money than your broke trailer trash ass:thumbsup abd that is what counts:scaredas:


Well, if you think that's what matters in life, then....go you. But I personally dont value money over friendship or treating people decently.

[Pimp C]

People like Ram, Hoss and Badger are trolls they don't offer any real insight to possible matchups all they do is post bullshit non boxing stuff about a boxer, troll and hate. People like them should be banned they fuck up real boxing discussions. The real funny shit is after fights like the PBF-Oscar fight for example they didn't have a damn thing to say but the usual excuses and come Dec 8th it will be no different and I'll be sure to rub it in thier faces.

[thunder06]

Yes, but that's his style. It's not like he's actually running laps around the ring like a track star, but his style in higher weights is stick and move. Even though he's usually "sticking" with one or two punches, especially against a fighter who's much stronger than he is.

[igotJUIC3]

You dont have to personally know someone to have a legitimate reason to dislike them.

Hitler may have been a swell guy to his friends, but I absolutely hate him (even if he is dead).

Yes, that's an extreme example, and no, Im not comparing Floyd to Hitler.

My point is this:

If you see someone exhibit scumbag behavior, then you have every reason to dislke them. Whether or not you know them.

What I know OF Floyd, and the behavior I've seen him display make me dislike him.

So far, he has proven to me, and to everyone who's ever watched him express himself, to be a crass, arrogant, insecure crybaby who only cares about himself.

He's made this perfectly clear with the behavior he's exhibited. I don't have to personally know him. But based on what I've seen, I can safely say that he does indeed, suck, as a man.

Hitler is a terrible comparisson a mass murder compared to someone's personna.

Im speaking of this instance this situation nothing else...you are critical of him because of how he chooses to act for promotion. Like i said earlier its like wrestling....Villains in wrestling act and say crazy shyt....but when you meet them they are total opposite usually. You question him as a man when its clear he is a very good father something that most men today fail at he does charitable deeds most people dont do.....there are many who run into floyd who say he doesnt act that way in person its only a camera thing. Now say joe schmoe on the street for no reason exhibits scumbag behavior then yea of course but its obvious why floyd acts that way on camera.....he loves portraying the villain role to me look how many of us tune in and shyt probally more than half want to see him lose....i say he done his job at promoting...which is what he has to do to make the all mighty dollar in his life...i cant fault him because thats him i have freinds who act and do things i dont do but they are still cool peoples...im sure you might can relate.

[Symphenyceo]

Hitler is a terrible comparisson a mass murder compared to someone's personna.

Im speaking of this instance this situation nothing else...you are critical of him because of how he chooses to act for promotion. Like i said earlier its like wrestling....Villains in wrestling act and say crazy shyt....but when you meet them they are total opposite usually. You question him as a man when its clear he is a very good father something that most men today fail at he does charitable deeds most people dont do.....there are many who run into floyd who say he doesnt act that way in person its only a camera thing. Now say joe schmoe on the street for no reason exhibits scumbag behavior then yea of course but its obvious why floyd acts that way on camera.....he loves portraying the villain role to me look how many of us tune in and shyt probally more than half want to see him lose....i say he done his job at promoting...which is what he has to do to make the all mighty dollar in his life...i cant fault him because thats him i have freinds who act and do things i dont do but they are still cool peoples...im sure you might can relate.

:good Amen

[Pimp C]

Hitler is a terrible comparisson a mass murder compared to someone's personna.

Im speaking of this instance this situation nothing else...you are critical of him because of how he chooses to act for promotion. Like i said earlier its like wrestling....Villains in wrestling act and say crazy shyt....but when you meet them they are total opposite usually. You question him as a man when its clear he is a very good father something that most men today fail at he does charitable deeds most people dont do.....there are many who run into floyd who say he doesnt act that way in person its only a camera thing. Now say joe schmoe on the street for no reason exhibits scumbag behavior then yea of course but its obvious why floyd acts that way on camera.....he loves portraying the villain role to me look how many of us tune in and shyt probally more than half want to see him lose....i say he done his job at promoting...which is what he has to do to make the all mighty dollar in his life...i cant fault him because thats him i have freinds who act and do things i dont do but they are still cool peoples...im sure you might can relate.
These dumb fucks are to stupid to see the difference. The man is trying to sell fights and it works for him.

[OklahomaHoss]

Hitler is a terrible comparisson a mass murder compared to someone's personna.

Im speaking of this instance this situation nothing else...you are critical of him because of how he chooses to act for promotion. Like i said earlier its like wrestling....Villains in wrestling act and say crazy shyt....but when you meet them they are total opposite usually. You question him as a man when its clear he is a very good father something that most men today fail at he does charitable deeds most people dont do.....there are many who run into floyd who say he doesnt act that way in person its only a camera thing. Now say joe schmoe on the street for no reason exhibits scumbag behavior then yea of course but its obvious why floyd acts that way on camera.....he loves portraying the villain role to me look how many of us tune in and shyt probally more than half want to see him lose....i say he done his job at promoting...which is what he has to do to make the all mighty dollar in his life...i cant fault him because thats him i have freinds who act and do things i dont do but they are still cool peoples...im sure you might can relate.



Good post, Juice. I'll admit.


And you've made a good point. But again, what else can you go on besides what you've seen of him?

If it's all an act and he's not really like what he pretends to be, and he's only acting this way for the sake of promotion, then I can absolutely have no problem with changing my outlook towards him.

I suppse you could draw the same parralell with James Toney. Remember all the shit he used to talk?

With him, you kinda knew that it was for the sake of promotion. But with Floyd...how can you know?


Incidentally, you speak of the charitable qualities he's got. Where do you get this info? What did he do? What charity does he contribute to?

[igotJUIC3]

These dumb fucks are to stupid to see the difference. The man is trying to sell fights and it works for him.

well all they have to do is look at the end of his fights...in the Oscar fight Floyd did the same things after the fight he was very respectful to Oscar shook hands gave a hug on the interview on HBO he didnt come at Oscar in anyway disrespectful he listened to what Oscar had to say even if he didnt like it he still didnt say anything. Im sure after the Hatton fight he will do the same walk over and display gamesmenship....on the promo tour Hatton's camp even said he didnt act that way when they were on a train or something together....he only does it for promotion...is it overboard a little maybe....does it work to a "T".....Oscar has fought great fights maybe better fighters....but none sold more than his fight with PBF.....yes Oscar was the big draw but you cant tell me they didnt break that record because people didnt tune in to see Floyd get his mouth shut up.....thats what its all about.....Floyd played the villain role to a perfection and in the end they broke records with the fight.

[igotJUIC3]

Good post, Juice. I'll admit.


And you've made a good point. But again, what else can you go on besides what you've seen of him?

If it's all an act and he's not really like what he pretends to be, and he's only acting this way for the sake of promotion, then I can absolutely have no problem with changing my outlook towards him.

I suppse you could draw the same parralell with James Toney. Remember all the shit he used to talk?

With him, you kinda knew that it was for the sake of promotion. But with Floyd...how can you know?


Incidentally, you speak of the charitable qualities he's got. Where do you get this info? What did he do? What charity does he contribute to?

well he often gives to the community in Michigan he is from ummmm handing out turkeys for thanksgiving, toys on christmas......helping families who are bad off.....i read it in an article on ESB actually....im not saying it makes him a saint but there are some who have it and done attempt to even give back ya know....that alone should give the man at least some credit....because like i said there are some who have more and dont.

[OklahomaHoss]

Hitler is a terrible comparisson a mass murder compared to someone's personna.





I said in my initial post that it was an extreme example and that I was NOT comparing Floyd to Hitler.

[badger6]

I said in my initial post that it was an extreme example and that I was NOT comparing Floyd to Hitler.

Don't fall for it hoss, they're trying to convert you. They want you hanging from floyd's ballsack by the teeth too !!!

[Toopretty]

Yes it would of been dumb, but I'm not saying he should of trade blow for blow with him, but he could of been more offensive. Guys like Ray Leonard will always give what the fans want, and beat there opponents down.


Like in the Hagler fight...:lol:

[PJ]

revisited...

[pit]

You really are dumb, and if Floyd doesnt run, hes as dumb as you. Floyds only chance is to run.


:patsch wow :lol: :patsch

[victor879]

As the question is formed... "Will he "box" the ENTIRE night?" Running is a very lame term to use by the way.

He'll mix it up with Hatton and give him different looks. He won't go toe-to-toe the whole evening, nor will he box the whole evening. So the answer is no.

Hatton has his hands full and I don't think he understands what kind of fighter he is dealing with yet. Apparently, neither do most of Hatton's fans and the Floyd detractors.

I expect to see dead silence and the usual excuse/I hate Mayweather threads after another victory tonight.

Different fight, same old story when it comes to Floyd. Just call him Floyd "Easy Money" Mayweather if you're a betting man.

[Dorfmeister]

From what I have realised thus far, Floyd has no benefit of making it a "toe to toe" battle b.c. even if he's already used to deal with the pressure style, he doesn't really know what this particular guy can do if he is given a chance to land. Actually, he can make a pretty good idea by Hatton's last fight and that is good enough argument to fairly predict that Floyd will try to be landing from the distance where Hatton can not hit back and since Ricky will be moving forward, Floyd can only move backwards or sideways... Actually, Floyd will win this fight cause he can land pretty effectively on retreating motion.

[Symphenyceo]

Like in the Hagler fight...

:good