View Full Version : Is David Tua ready for a Klitschko?
ranser
10-04-2009, 10:57 PM
After disposing of Shane Cameron in such quick fashion, is he ready for a Wlad??
kinski
10-04-2009, 10:59 PM
Nope. But this what the Tua fans want. B careful for what u wish 4!!! He should 1-2 more fights.
ashley
10-04-2009, 11:00 PM
After disposing of Shane Cameron in such quick fashion, is he ready for a Wlad??
No I dont think so....he needs to build up a few more fights first against better ranked fighters that Cameron then maybe mid to end of next year if hes still keen then yes.
kinski
10-04-2009, 11:09 PM
But then so would Vitali if they fought. Older and slower.
Darkshark
10-04-2009, 11:15 PM
Nah not yet, but not too far away.
I hear Tua is back in the gym training for a fight in December already.
Everyone says Tua needs to be more active, fight regularly and control his weight. Well it looks like that's what he's doing.
He should earn his shot - and I believe that's what he's setting out to do.
Kegsy
10-04-2009, 11:26 PM
Nah not yet, but not too far away.
I hear Tua is back in the gym training for a fight in December already.
Everyone says Tua needs to be more active, fight regularly and control his weight. Well it looks like that's what he's doing.
He should earn his shot - and I believe that's what he's setting out to do.
I would personally like to see Tua beat at least 2 or 3 more fighters before challenging a Klitschko like Hasim Rahman, Kali Meehan & Chris Arreola.
ashley
10-04-2009, 11:39 PM
Nah not yet, but not too far away.
I hear Tua is back in the gym training for a fight in December already.
Everyone says Tua needs to be more active, fight regularly and control his weight. Well it looks like that's what he's doing.
He should earn his shot - and I believe that's what he's setting out to do.
Thats good news mate....and I agree with Kegsy....the Arreola fight would be good.
Darkshark
10-04-2009, 11:58 PM
Thats good news mate....and I agree with Kegsy....the Arreola fight would be good.
Or Sam Peter - I'm not fussy :yep
ashley
10-05-2009, 12:22 AM
Or Sam Peter - I'm not fussy :yep
Yeah....would have been nice if Tua got Arreola first before Klitschko but Sam Peter would be good as well at this stage.
Farmboxer
10-05-2009, 02:25 AM
Tua/Peter would be a good high paying fight. Vitali or Vlad will stop Tua.
1 or 2 more fights puts him right in line.
Angry Fight Fan
10-05-2009, 04:55 AM
Tua/Peter would be a good high paying fight. Vitali or Vlad will stop Tua.
Good to see you still hang off the Klitschko's nuts even after all these years Farmboxer.
Francis75
10-05-2009, 08:34 AM
Tua v Klitschko will be the same as Tua v Lewis
But one major difference is Tua will be 8yrs older and slower.
Spot on. :good
WhataRock
10-05-2009, 08:36 AM
:lol:
Aaah the lure of an exciting power puncher...Puts some crazy ideas in people's heads.
dominator
10-05-2009, 08:50 AM
David Tua's comeback reminds me of a post jail Mike Tyson.
Hope he can score a title fight within the next 12 months.
Tua is one fighter that can really spark interest in the heavyweight scene.
11player
10-05-2009, 10:07 AM
With the kind of power Tua brings, there is always a chance for an upset. Problem is, for that to happen, the Klitchkos would have to make a few mistakes, leaving the opening for Tua to land flush and that is not happening in their last few fights.
IMO, today, the chances for a Tua win are ridiculous small, but nobody knows what will happen a year from now, which is about the right time frame for the fight to take place considering Tua wins a couple of good fights next.
Anyway, Tua should go for it, considering his current situation. The payday will be worth it.
Before retiring, Ruiz, Meehan and Peter/Arreola are fights that Tua should really pursue. All of them would do fine financially and add to his legacy.
He doesnt really need Ruiz again, Train for 3 months fight for 19 seconds :lol:
A fit focussed Tua could KO most fighters around today, that same sentence has been stated throughout his entire career. The only fighter i dont give him a chance of beating is Vitali. He would survive against and probably smile back at him like he did to Lewis but would be vastly outpointed.
:lol:
Aaah the lure of an exciting power puncher...Puts some crazy ideas in people's heads.Power puncher with awesome chin will always create buzz
Cachibatches
10-05-2009, 12:30 PM
He should beat a couple of tall, fringe contender punchers. Meehan would be an excellent start (though he is a legit contender, I don't think Tua might beat him pretty handily) and then move on to any 2-3 of the ususal suspects: Davarell Williamson, Lance Whitaker, Jameel McLine, Michael Grant, Dominick Guinn, even Audley Harrison.
ramalinga
10-05-2009, 12:39 PM
David Tua's comeback reminds me of a post jail Mike Tyson.
Hope he can score a title fight within the next 12 months.
Tua is one fighter that can really spark interest in the heavyweight scene.
There is interest in the HW scene...Vitali - Arreola generated a lot of interest. Chambers drew a lot of deserved attention with his win over Dimitrenko, which is a far better accomplishment than Tua's destruction of a clubfighter. Povetkin has the best resume of any HW not named Klitschko. Haye - Valuev will be interesting...the HW division doesn't need Tua. If he can win against a top 15 fighter, he will be interesting, not before.
...the HW division doesn't need Tua. If he can win against a top 15 fighter, he will be interesting, not before.This is a very interesting statement
stf75
10-05-2009, 01:54 PM
It would be safe for Tua to fight 2 credible fights to get some rounds under him.....Kali Meehan would be good and then Samuel Peter or Chris Arreola. If Tua is in shape, I think he has a better then good chance of beating Wlad or Vitaly.
ramalinga
10-05-2009, 02:10 PM
This is a very interesting statement
Well, how is a fighter interesting if he has far lesser recent accomplishments than several current contenders? Especially since he is a comeback fighter who had a good career but failed against Byrd who got beaten twice by Wlad and against Lennox who is the big, range - controling HW prototype like the Klit brothers?
Sloth
10-05-2009, 03:24 PM
Either now or later, Tua loses to either Klitschko.
stf75
10-05-2009, 03:57 PM
Byrd never fought Lewis
stf75
10-05-2009, 04:25 PM
"The only fighter i dont give him a chance of beating is Vitali. He would survive against and probably smile back at him like he did to Lewis but would be vastly outpointed."
Tua was out of shape for the Lewis fight......Your telling me an in shape, busier, not just relying on the money left, but using his right hand sledgehammer version of Tua would get outpointed from Vitaly??? He has a lot better chance then that c'mon now!!! If Tua fought his fight and pushed the pace, throwing those bombs in both hands.....Id say he has a way better chance then most, but thats only if he's in great shape and motivated.
fast hands
10-06-2009, 07:38 AM
Either Klitschko hands David Tua his first pro stoppage.
ramalinga
10-06-2009, 07:59 AM
"The only fighter i dont give him a chance of beating is Vitali. He would survive against and probably smile back at him like he did to Lewis but would be vastly outpointed."
Tua was out of shape for the Lewis fight......Your telling me an in shape, busier, not just relying on the money left, but using his right hand sledgehammer version of Tua would get outpointed from Vitaly??? He has a lot better chance then that c'mon now!!! If Tua fought his fight and pushed the pace, throwing those bombs in both hands.....Id say he has a way better chance then most, but thats only if he's in great shape and motivated.
Smaller fighters trying to push Vitali....that's his bread and butter. Do you realize that Tua is four whole inches shorter than Hide, with shorter arms and slower feet? Hide couldn't use his supposed speed advantage to get to Vitali, now little Tua is going to do it? Tua would be the shortest opponent of Vitali's pro career and he is going to beat the HW who is hardest to hit and was never knocked down when bigger, faster men failed?
Well, how is a fighter interesting if he has far lesser recent accomplishments than several current contenders? Especially since he is a comeback fighter who had a good career but failed against Byrd who got beaten twice by Wlad and against Lennox who is the big, range - controling HW prototype like the Klit brothers?So because he hasnt had any recent good accomplishments that others have had the heavyweight scene doesnt need him. This is what i find interesting.
To me David Tua amongst the heavyweights will always be interesting.
flamengo
10-06-2009, 10:48 AM
So because he hasnt had any recent good accomplishments that others have had the heavyweight scene doesnt need him. This is what i find interesting.
To me David Tua amongst the heavyweights will always be interesting.
What memorable events have occured in the H/W ranks in the last 3 years anyway??? Atleast Tua caused a sensation momentarily.. All other memorable ocassions are via let downs and rip offs.
Seeing Haye get ko'd will be fun... other than that, the international H/W scene is no more than a fucked up circus with TV networks at the helm.
What memorable events have occured in the H/W ranks in the last 3 years anyway??? Atleast Tua caused a sensation momentarily.. All other memorable ocassions are via let downs and rip offs.
Seeing Haye get ko'd will be fun... other than that, the international H/W scene is no more than a fucked up circus with TV networks at the helm.Couldnt agree more.
You still want to swap me those boxing dvds for the Japanese scat eating films Pecks lent me?
ranser
10-06-2009, 09:13 PM
I can imagine Tua finding it real hard to get on the inside with either Klit's just jabbing their way to safety throughout the whole 12 rounds.
stormy
10-07-2009, 05:09 AM
Tua needs several more fights to get into match fitness shape before even bothering to call out a klit imho. He will get to that stage however. Then we can discuss it intelligently and based on recent history not just idle speculation :hey
JOSEY WALES
10-22-2009, 09:19 AM
Bump
JOSEY WALES
10-22-2009, 09:43 AM
Any news on Tua's next opponent ?
Tua should be fighting every 2 months if he wants to get back in the picture. The more time he has away from training the more time he has relaxing with relos piling on the pounds.
I wouldnt mind seeing him go through all the british HWs.
JOSEY WALES
10-22-2009, 10:35 AM
Tua should be fighting every 2 months if he wants to get back in the picture. The more time he has away from training the more time he has relaxing with relos piling on the pounds.
I wouldnt mind seeing him go through all the british HWs.
Didn't he fail when he attempted that last time around ?
Didn't he fail when he attempted that last time around ?You sly dog Josey,
I didnt realise there was a current HW ATG lurking over there in them shaky Isles to stop him this time :yep
JOSEY WALES
10-22-2009, 10:56 AM
You sly dog Josey,
I didnt realise there was a current HW ATG lurking over there in them shaky Isles to stop him this time :yep
Yep , Harrison has had his heart transplant and will dust the cunt in 3 months time , Bring it ....
Serious though Teke Tua needs to get a wiggle on and fighting ANY Brit heavy other than Haye would be a complete waste of his time .
Farmboxer
10-24-2009, 03:56 AM
Tua needs a few more fights to earn a shot at title.
ipswich express
10-24-2009, 06:13 AM
The whisper around is that Arreola might be next. Early December too...
The whisper around is that Arreola might be next. Early December too...
Heard that whisper too. That would be an extremely poor choice for Arreola though. 2 losses in a row could really set him back 2 or 3 years...
By the way, Is there anyone here in europe who wants to go and see the Klitschko Johnson fight??? Its right here in switzerland!
ipswich express
10-24-2009, 06:29 AM
By the way, Is there anyone here in europe who wants to go and see the Klitschko Johnson fight??? Its right here in switzerland!
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10-24-2009, 07:16 AM
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Squire
10-24-2009, 07:25 AM
He should beat a couple of tall, fringe contender punchers. Meehan would be an excellent start (though he is a legit contender, I don't think Tua might beat him pretty handily) and then move on to any 2-3 of the ususal suspects: Davarell Williamson, Lance Whitaker, Jameel McLine, Michael Grant, Dominick Guinn, even Audley Harrison.
pretty much what i was going to say. he needs to fight big guys
ranser
10-24-2009, 08:00 AM
Arreola vs Tua is not likely to happen .
Apparently Tua is not interested in small change.He wants the big $$$ after making half a million against Cameron.
ipswich express
10-24-2009, 08:40 AM
Arreola vs Tua is not likely to happen .
Apparently Tua is not interested in small change.He wants the big $$$ after making half a million against Cameron.
Silly IMO. He'd get an easy kill and put him well and truly back in the limelight, especially if he bombed him out in more impressive fashion than Quitali. Which I am sure he would.
ranser
10-24-2009, 09:20 AM
Silly IMO. He'd get an easy kill and put him well and truly back in the limelight, especially if he bombed him out in more impressive fashion than Quitali. Which I am sure he would.
I agree.He would easily take out Arreola, well not easily, but I think he could get the nod or ko.
ipswich express
10-24-2009, 09:59 AM
More importantly it'd put him back on HBO.
pokerbox
10-24-2009, 01:20 PM
If Tua wants an outing fairly quickly how about Oliver Macall?
JOSEY WALES
10-25-2009, 04:22 AM
Thomaz Adamek v Tua anyone ?
Thomaz Adamek v Tua anyone ?Good matchup. Adameks melon is a magnet for right hands. I really dont want to see Ada killed
JOSEY WALES
10-25-2009, 04:30 AM
Good matchup. Adameks melon is a magnet for right hands. I really dont want to see Ada killed
Did you catch the Adamek v Golota fight last night Teke (i know you prowl the streams late at night) lol , i think a fight between these two would determine just how much Tua had left in the tank ( you can't really gauge him on his last fight as it was over too quick ) imo although Golota is shot Adamek would pose a better argument .
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10-25-2009, 04:41 AM
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perfect jet
10-25-2009, 07:05 AM
Did you catch the Adamek v Golota fight last night Teke (i know you prowl the streams late at night) lol , i think a fight between these two would determine just how much Tua had left in the tank ( you can't really gauge him on his last fight as it was over too quick ) imo although Golota is shot Adamek would pose a better argument .
What about an Adamek v Haye?
LeonMcS
10-25-2009, 07:11 AM
Even better, as impressive as Adameks win was today I don't think it gives us a clear indication of his abilities at Heavyweight.
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ipswich express
10-25-2009, 08:16 AM
Well he fights out of there, and has done since the 1990s. Not surprising really. Adamek v Haye would be fun, although I think David has too much for him in every department apart from chin and heart. Very interesting fight!
JOSEY WALES
10-25-2009, 08:30 AM
What about an Adamek v Haye?
Yep, but at Cruiser weight i think where both men fought their best imo , this move to Heavy was lets be fair based on greed by both blokes ,
I would travel a long way to see Haye v Adamek live @ Cruiser .
ranser
10-25-2009, 11:42 PM
Yep, but at Cruiser weight i think where both men fought their best imo , this move to Heavy was lets be fair based on greed by both blokes ,
I would travel a long way to see Haye v Adamek live @ Cruiser .
that would be a pretty good match up.
However I wouldn't want to see Adamek vs Tua,
thats absolute suicide for adamek!
Farmboxer
10-25-2009, 11:49 PM
Adamek by knockout.
kinski
10-25-2009, 11:55 PM
Like I sai Vitali is older and slower but he's 2 big for Tua and probably busts him up. Vitalis stamina is even better then it was. This needs 2 happen so it shuts up fuckheads like lefthook 89! The sooner,the better.
Phil Austin
10-26-2009, 04:20 AM
Adamek won't be able to KO Haye if he is on the mat unconscious - at heavyweight this is an easy fight for Haye IMO
JOSEY WALES
10-26-2009, 09:10 AM
Adamek v Tua I'm hearing , January 23 ish down under ..
ashley
10-26-2009, 09:17 AM
Adamek v Tua I'm hearing , January 23 ish down under ..
Shit that will be great.....Adamek went very well against Galotta....nice speed, power and combos....as we know Galotta is passed his best now and Tua moving like he did VS Camaron wont be the same plodding target Galotta was for Thomaz.
ranser
10-26-2009, 10:31 AM
to be honest I can't fathom putting adamek against Tua.
1 punch from Tua, and its goodnight Irene...are they serious? Adamek has been dropped a few times by Briggs, what will happen if Tua lands??
ashley
10-26-2009, 02:30 PM
to be honest I can't fathom putting adamek against Tua.
1 punch from Tua, and its goodnight Irene...are they serious? Adamek has been dropped a few times by Briggs, what will happen if Tua lands??
That was Adamek at LH.....He lookss much better with the extra weight on.....and its all muscle.......watch the Galotta fight...hes quite solid however he still looks CW to me.
To answer your question if Tua lands well its night night time....but Tua Ko's most fighters if he lands flush :yep
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10-26-2009, 02:47 PM
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FINALLY! A legitimate American heavyweight hope! :happy
ashley
10-26-2009, 02:59 PM
FINALLY! A legitimate American heavyweight hope! :happy
Back off mate hes aussie :yep....well close enough anyway
ranser
11-01-2009, 09:44 AM
David Tua's manager has indicated he won't fight Meehan or the other bloke, and won't fight Arreola either, they want a world title, so they are targeting valuev or 1 of the klit's.
They are wasting no time.
ashley
11-01-2009, 03:45 PM
David Tua's manager has indicated he won't fight Meehan or the other bloke, and won't fight Arreola either, they want a world title, so they are targeting valuev or 1 of the klit's.
They are wasting no time.
Adamek's got a World title.........ok so its the vacant, international type.....but its still the IBF :D
One would think Tua could use another fight or 2 with guys like Adamek before he jumps in the ring with a guy twice his reach :conf
Darkshark
11-01-2009, 05:12 PM
Back off mate hes aussie :yep....well close enough anyway
Arghhhhhhh!!! The Aussie Thieves are at it again!!!!!!!!!! :lol:
ashley
11-01-2009, 05:20 PM
Arghhhhhhh!!! The Aussie Thieves are at it again!!!!!!!!!! :lol:
I became a KIWI for 10 days.....it was great...or it was..."sweet as bro" :good
I'm going back again next year....great country you have there mate :deal
Squire
11-01-2009, 05:28 PM
David Tua's manager has indicated he won't fight Meehan or the other bloke, and won't fight Arreola either, they want a world title, so they are targeting valuev or 1 of the klit's.
They are wasting no time.
who the hell do they think they are? :huh
Farmboxer
11-03-2009, 01:30 AM
I guess he does not want to work for him money. Tua needs a couple more fights to get my interest.
Darkshark
11-03-2009, 08:46 PM
I became a KIWI for 10 days.....it was great...or it was..."sweet as bro" :good
I'm going back again next year....great country you have there mate :deal
Chur bro.....
Thanks, you're welcome anytime, can you bring some chicks with you next time though? Last time I was in Aussie I was iblown away by some of the girls...
Darkshark
11-03-2009, 08:49 PM
David wont be getting a title shot off the back of Cameron, maybe if he was with Don the devil King, but Ced Walrus Kushner wont be able to make it happen me thinks.
I'm looking for a top 100 guy in January, followed by someone like Sam Peter or Arreola probably around June - in other words someone he wont have to chase around the ring all night, after that he'd probably have made enough noise to get a shot...
LeonMcS
11-03-2009, 10:10 PM
Last time I was in Aussie I was iblown away by some of the girls...
Yes, they do have redeeming qualities. I hope you at least bought them a drink first.
Farmboxer
11-04-2009, 02:15 AM
Tua is not ready for either Klitschko, esp. not Vitali. Tua needs to get a few fights under his belt to create interest, then he should get to fight Vitali of Vlad. Would love to see him fight McCall or Peter.
11player
11-05-2009, 05:56 AM
David wont be getting a title shot off the back of Cameron, maybe if he was with Don the devil King, but Ced Walrus Kushner wont be able to make it happen me thinks.
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Exactly.
Tua's people are going wild again, pipedreams and all, never seem to catch a break and never get his career right on track. That's the reason he was never champion, despite the obvious talent.
Best way would be a fight with Meehan right now, still in 2009, both are free, good money involved and a possible #1 ranking in play.
No reason for Tua to take on lesser fights at this stage of his career, he has to make every fight count, make the money, leave it all in the ring and retire before 40.
Ruiz, Rahman, Toney, Brewster, Briggs, Golota, Peter, Arreola, Minto, are other names that would do good.
I dont think Tua will ever be ready for a Klit but if he does get in the ring with one of them it better be after a few quick notable wins.
lefthook89
11-05-2009, 10:14 AM
Tua is not ready for either Klitschko, esp. not Vitali. Tua needs to get a few fights under his belt to create interest, then he should get to fight Vitali of Vlad. Would love to see him fight McCall or Peter.
OKAY! OKAY!! WE GET IT!! christ how many times are you gonna keep repeating this shit on tua threads???
Darkshark
11-05-2009, 10:05 PM
Exactly.
Tua's people are going wild again, pipedreams and all, never seem to catch a break and never get his career right on track. That's the reason he was never champion, despite the obvious talent.
Best way would be a fight with Meehan right now, still in 2009, both are free, good money involved and a possible #1 ranking in play.
No reason for Tua to take on lesser fights at this stage of his career, he has to make every fight count, make the money, leave it all in the ring and retire before 40.
Ruiz, Rahman, Toney, Brewster, Briggs, Golota, Peter, Arreola, Minto, are other names that would do good.
I'd love to see him knock Ruiz silly again... Dont think I'm alone there.
And Arreola and Peter are aguably the best fights out therefor him right now. He wont have to chase or go looking for these 2, and he in all likelyhood has a better jaw and punch than either of them.
Honestly, I see Meehan as a no win fight for Tua. If he KO's Kali people will just say that Kali was past it/faded/hasn't fought in ages etc...
Should Kali take him into the late rounds who knows what Tua will have in the tank.
Not what I'd call a risky fight by any means (unless it's compared to Cameron) but really very little reward - and none that he couldn't get from taking what I see as easier fights against Arreola or Peter.
Farmboxer
11-06-2009, 02:49 AM
Tua needs to fight a top ten heavyweight to get big interest in seeing him fight to the title.
jan cronje
11-06-2009, 08:41 AM
Thats good news mate....and I agree with Kegsy....the Arreola fight would be good.
If Tua keeps himself in good shape and condition he can beat the best and two more fights and he can take on Klitscko. But then he must fight more often and not every second year
flamengo
11-06-2009, 08:50 AM
Tua vs Holyfield in Oz next April. Deal with it.!!!
ashley
11-06-2009, 03:34 PM
Yes, they do have redeeming qualities. I hope you at least bought them a drink first.
:rofl:rofl:rofl
ashley
11-06-2009, 03:40 PM
I dont want to see Tua vs Meehan......because it maybe the end of one of them..........I would rather see them take on big names overseas........unless its in a world title fight :good
I dont want to see Tua vs Meehan......because it maybe the end of one of them..........I would rather see them take on big names overseas........unless its in a world title fight :goodPlease no dont let this be the end of Meehan :lol:
COULDHAVEBEEN
11-08-2009, 06:37 PM
Is David Haye ready for the Klitschkos? - after the weekend you gotta think YES!
...and hope he unifies the titles!!
ranser
11-09-2009, 06:58 AM
I think Haye will be chicken feed for Tua, unless Haye does the same that he did to Valuev and stay out of Tua's lethal shots using his speed and elusiveness.
11player
11-09-2009, 08:46 PM
Tua has put himself in an excelent position, he is already WBO #4, pratically a fight away from a title bout with Wlad.
What his camp has to realise is that it's better to take a risk soon and go on with the rest of Tua's career then waiting around for the perfect fight to come and burning out the last remaining time he has left.
Hope we see this next:
1.December-January: Meehan/Rahman/Minto/Toney
2.May-June: Klitschko/Peter/Arreola
3.October: Ruiz
Big Fish
11-17-2009, 11:10 PM
No
11player
11-18-2009, 06:36 PM
How about Tua vs Ahunanya, is that fight happening or not?
read somewhere that Friday had even signed the contract already.
IntentionalButt
11-18-2009, 06:47 PM
How about Tua vs Ahunanya, is that fight happening or not?
read somewhere that Friday had even signed the contract already.
December 12th was the reported date, but there hasn't been any news, let alone confirmation, in a couple weeks.
Where did you hear that about the contract?
nzknockout
11-25-2009, 05:18 PM
People dont give david tua enough credit. he has a harder left hook then anyone and he can drop a big opponent by one good shot to the gut. tua is ready for whatever he gets offered the question is whos gonna balls up to take on the tuaman. u can b 7ft tall or punch 100 times a round he still will put anyone down in the shape hes in i know he has aged but hes at a career best weight and hes punching harder and faster than he ever has before. Hes ready for anything and after david hayes mandatory defense against John Ruiz (whom i might add tua dropped in 19 seconds) i hope to see him fight tua. then after tua beats the so called "giant Killer" and goes on to demolish either of the klitschko brothers it will show you that the best fighters are bred in the southern hemisphere. so for all you who dont think tua has it, just wait and see.
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11-26-2009, 09:36 AM
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