View Full Version : Murray vs Katsidis a year from now?
'Ben'
10-05-2009, 03:02 PM
How do you lot see this one going? one heck of a tear up though!
GPater11093
10-05-2009, 03:04 PM
me and my bro talked about this yesterday
Katsidas beats him up IMO my bro thought Murray wins
rockandrollstar
10-05-2009, 03:06 PM
That would be a right scrap!
Would be a better scrap than Earl-Katsidis IMO. Would love to see it.
kosaros
10-05-2009, 03:47 PM
Has 'fight of the year' written all over it.
Mr Butt
10-05-2009, 03:52 PM
agree, a great fight late next year
GPater11093
10-05-2009, 03:52 PM
I see Murray getting cut down
achillesthegreat
10-05-2009, 03:53 PM
Same fighter, totally different leagues. Murray has alot to prove before he shows he belongs on that level.
Mr Butt
10-05-2009, 03:56 PM
I see Murray getting cut down
yeah but a cracking fight
Not to piss all over this but Murray has to prove a lot before even thinking of Kats.
faisal
10-05-2009, 04:29 PM
murray doesnt carry the same kind of ferocity as juan diaz, murray has a good enough workrate but is slow fisted when katsidis backs him up he'll fall apart iv never seen him fight off the backfoot, hes a slightly better fighter then i gave him credit for however he still has fought any 1 of any note, i hope hennesy puts him in with some tough mexican gatekeeper journeyman or some top 20 contender then we may get a fair idea of what this kid is all about
Little Tyson
10-05-2009, 05:09 PM
Would be a brilliant fight while it lasted! I think Murray needs to improve his foot movement. He seemed against Thaxton to have the hands up and to be moving in a straight line each time to "Jono". Katsidis might be able to work around him and pick off some good body and head shots. Murray should fight for European lightweight against Anthony Mezaache.
BURNLEYBLUE
10-05-2009, 05:58 PM
Thought Murray lookedgood on Sat, but people are getting carried away. Thaxton was done, as his last few of fights have shown. The malero ko maybe glossed over the fact. Mezaache is the obvious next step up. Check out Ishy's avvy and just think what a clever counter puncher or a ragin Katsidis would do to him.
Mandanda
10-05-2009, 07:22 PM
Katsidis is improving and adapting to world class boxing.....Murray is kinda stubborn and just thinks he can walk through opponents....he has to add some skills to his set if he wants to beat Katsidis.
cubex
10-05-2009, 07:24 PM
Katsidis destroys him.
icemax
10-05-2009, 07:26 PM
me and my bro talked about this yesterday
Katsidas beats him up IMO my bro thought Murray wins
I'm with you :good Kat would outwork and disect the one dimensional Murray
And Katsidis is not one dimensional?
There are better reasons for Katsidis winning than that.
I would put it down to Kats has seen everything Murray will throw at him and most times has shown he can deal with it. While Murray will be in with a different fighter to anything he has fought on his record.
HairyHighlander
10-05-2009, 07:33 PM
TFFP, you said the other night he was capeable, fair enough.
Rabbit + Headlights
Why a rabbit in headlights? Murray has never looked lost in the ring, he's pretty much a cyborg. He does the same thing, sometimes it works more effectively than other times. Against a slick mover like Hamidi it doesn't look so good, and against McAllister early, against other foes it works from the get go.
It would basically come down to which fighter can outlast the other one, which can push the other back, and which can show better defence.
PowerPuncher
10-05-2009, 07:50 PM
Katsidis is worse than Murray, that isnt to say I think Murray is world class, he isnt but neither is Katsidis. Katsidis has proven to be a tough gatekeeper type that lets you know how good you are. He is tough, good chin, physically good but an open defense, wide punches and not too much power. Murray has the better defense of the 2 and punches straighter and more deliberately.
HairyHighlander
10-05-2009, 07:51 PM
Why a rabbit in headlights? Murray has never looked lost in the ring, he's pretty much a cyborg. He does the same thing, sometimes it works more effectively than other times. Against a slick mover like Hamidi it doesn't look so good, and against McAllister early, against other foes it works from the get go.
It would basically come down to which fighter can outlast the other one, which can push the other back, and which can show better defence.
Not lost, i just dont see him getting going, if this took place now.
Though in a years time, a whole lot could change.
pne buz
10-05-2009, 07:57 PM
I seem to remember a lot of people on here dismissing Froch in this manner.(to slow,crap footwork etc).Murray has to but improve but he will.He like so many British fighters is not progressing as fast wed like but that is down to promotion.Murray has beaten what has been put in front of him and is unbeaten.For my money he has shown improvement in his recent bouts and theres a lot to like.
Murray has heart and drive,throws plenty of ammo and looks like he would walk through walls if needed.He has plenty of miles left on the clock and i think he will provide lots of entertainment for us in years to come.He has limitations yes,but he has like Froch the attributes that will see him progress to a fair level IMO.
Katsidis is worse than Murray, that isnt to say I think Murray is world class, he isnt but neither is Katsidis. Katsidis has proven to be a tough gatekeeper type that lets you know how good you are. He is tough, good chin, physically good but an open defense, wide punches and not too much power. Murray has the better defense of the 2 and punches straighter and more deliberately.
I don't think its the mismatch its made out to be either.
Katsidis is more proven and experienced, but thats a double edged sword considering the tough fights he's had and Murray's relative freshness.
There is no noticeable advantage for Katsidis in skills, I think Murray has the better defence and punches a lot straighter if anything. I also notice Murray's guard is quite wide which will see off a lot of Katsidis's hooks.
The only thing that would concern me about the fight is Katsidis's strength. Murray is strong, he's always been the stronger man in the ring, if the tables are turned I'm not sure how he'd react if he had to concede ground.
Darni187
10-05-2009, 08:08 PM
Good fight if Murray really wants to prove he can step up in class, Katsidis would be his hardest test yet. Both would go all out, who would be the last man standing?
Pug1list
10-05-2009, 08:53 PM
I think Katsidis wins this, i don't think Murray can handle constant pressure Katsidis brings for 12 rounds, big jump from fighting a shot Thaxton to Katsidis.
kosaros
10-05-2009, 08:58 PM
Katsidis is worse than Murray, that isnt to say I think Murray is world class, he isnt but neither is Katsidis. Katsidis has proven to be a tough gatekeeper type that lets you know how good you are. He is tough, good chin, physically good but an open defense, wide punches and not too much power. Murray has the better defense of the 2 and punches straighter and more deliberately.
Katsidis is more than a gatekeeper FFS.
Farmboxer
10-06-2009, 02:12 AM
I pick Katsidis. If Katsidis had a good trainer, he could go somewhere. Freadie Roach?
cupid
10-06-2009, 02:47 AM
Katsidis Ko in late rounds
robpalmer135
10-06-2009, 07:36 AM
katsidis by brutal KO.
'Ben'
10-06-2009, 07:39 AM
Same kind of fighter but Katsidis is a bit more faster, a bit more powerful and has more experience fighting world rated fighters. Who knows a year from now though?
PaddyD1983
10-06-2009, 06:16 PM
We cant say a year from now really can we? A year ago would we really pair Manny up with Cotto?
At the moment, Katsidis is too strong and has been in with much higher level opposition. Depending on how Kat progresses then I think this fight is between 2-8 fights away from Murray. If Murray gets a Euro shot, then maybe a Peterson fight then he can move onto Kat (if Kat moves sideways or backwards). If Murray gets lower calibre of opposition or if Katsidis develops in anyway then it's going to take longer to reach that level.
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