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IronBull
09-18-2007, 10:15 PM
what happens if hatton lands a bodyshot like he did against castillo?

hmm.... Hatton is VERY aggressive fighter, im not sure if Floyd can handle it.

BigReg
09-18-2007, 10:16 PM
what happens if hatton lands a bodyshot like he did against castillo?

hmm.... Hatton is VERY aggressive fighter, im not sure if Floyd can handle it.

What happens if Floyd lands a bodyshot like did on Mitchell? That's boxing, if you get hit with a perfect shot, you're in trouble.

Relentless
09-18-2007, 10:17 PM
hey ironbull how many floyd OR hatton fights have you seen?

Toopretty
09-18-2007, 10:20 PM
What happens if Floyd lands a bodyshot like did on Mitchell? That's boxing, if you get hit with a perfect shot, you're in trouble.

Hey Reg..floyd will land that body shot...Thats what Is going to undo Hatton late in the fight..He is very stomachy..lol..and a right hand up the middle thrown with floyds body weight will make hatton lose his lunch..People forget that floyd is a body puncher with both hands with jabs lead rights...hooks..shit just about anything...from range or in close..Hatton has the best one punch left hook to the body..but that is one punch...

BigReg
09-18-2007, 10:26 PM
And how good was Floyds body punching?

Floyd is an underrated body puncher. He knocked out Apodaca in the 2nd round with a body shot, he ended Mitchell in the 6th with a straight shot to the body, and he killed Zab with body shots all night

BigReg
09-18-2007, 10:27 PM
Oh yeah I forgot to mention I seen the Henry Bruseles fight in which Mayweather knocked out Henry with a body shot and dropped him twice on body shots. He knocked out Sharmba Mitchell on a body shot, Cooper went down on a body shot (jab, he was off balance but still) and Mayweathers jabs to Corrales' body played a major part in Corrales having no legs in the later rounds. And he pounded Gatti's body in the 6th round hard enough to drop any other fighter. So I'd say pretty good :deal

I forgot about the Bruseles fight. Floyd is very good at working the body

Jose FM
09-18-2007, 10:27 PM
Floyd at body punching disadvantage, cause hes taller and runs backward.

Jose FM
09-18-2007, 10:28 PM
I forgot about the Bruseles fight. Floyd is very good at working the body
All those scrumbs arent Hatton.

BigReg
09-18-2007, 10:30 PM
All those scrumbs arent Hatton.\

And Mayweather isn't any of the has beens or bums that Hatton has been fighting. What is your point?

Toopretty
09-18-2007, 10:32 PM
All those scrumbs arent Hatton.+

Yeah..hatton is easier to hit then a Judah or a slick southpaw like mitchell. Hatton has no lateral movement...Oscarsexuals there hatred for Floyd burns deep..If only that left hook landed huh..faggo...

Jose FM
09-18-2007, 10:38 PM
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Yeah..hatton is easier to hit then a Judah or a slick southpaw like mitchell. Hatton has no lateral movement...Oscarsexuals there hatred for Floyd burns deep..If only that left hook landed huh..faggo...
Yo get off my nutshack dawg... Oscar has nothing to do with what im talking about...

Toopretty
09-18-2007, 10:38 PM
yeah when he use his old lean back and puts his right arm up to cover his face and serratus area he leaves just enough room for hatton to sneak a left hook under the guard of pbf. well in theory anyway

You forgot one thing..floyd can twist and turn and bring that same elbow down when he sees the body punch coming..he will see it coming...Hatton throws the same punches in the same spots over and over and over...Collazo figured that out..floyd will too.

Toopretty
09-18-2007, 10:40 PM
Yo get off nutshack dawg... Oscar has nothing to do with what im talking about...

Shut up..Oscarsexuality is a disease with no cure. I know...clown. GET OF FLOYD OPPONENTS NUT SACKS AND YOU WONT SEE THIS KIND OF POST FROM BOXING FANS.

Jose FM
09-18-2007, 10:48 PM
Shut up..Oscarsexuality is a disease with no cure. I know...clown. GET OF FLOYD OPPONENTS NUT SACKS AND YOU WONT SEE THIS KIND OF POST FROM BOXING FANS.
Yea, whatever you say, first of real boxing fans would want the best fighter fighting the best figthers. Oscar De La Hoya has NEVER cherry-picked, and has always fought the best. Fraud Gayrunner, has avioded many, and cherrypicked even more. He lucky to have walked away in a win in his last fight cause a 34 yr, part time fighter gave him a SD. Floyd will get more respect from real boxing fans when he mans up and fights the best.

Toopretty
09-18-2007, 10:49 PM
true, true, but it may only take 1 getting inside the guard. just ask castillo. and if ricky is in fighting as close as he needs to, no way will pbf see that puch coming at such a close range.

WOW can you say that was his first real one punch KO.the odds of that happening again are slim to none.. and that is being generous.

KO Boxing
09-18-2007, 10:51 PM
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And Mayweather isn't any of the has beens or bums that Hatton has been fighting. What is your point?
He doesn't have a point. Except maybe that he doesn't like Floyd.

Scar
09-18-2007, 10:51 PM
If he's hit right on the spot then Floyd will be in serious danger, if not go down or get stopped. Seriously doubt it'll happen but anything is possible in boxing.

Jose FM
09-18-2007, 10:56 PM
Basically Hattons only chance is stopping Mayweather with one punch. I remember before De La Hoya-Mayweather people were saying "Floyd will get caught with Oscars left hook and it'll be over" now its "Floyd will get stopped on a Hatton body shot" Its not gonna happen.
True, but Hatton's gonna force his way in there and is willing to take punches. Dont forget, Oscars a boxer, Hattons a swarmer.

Scar
09-18-2007, 11:07 PM
True, but Hatton's gonna force his way in there and is willing to take punches. Dont forget, Oscars a boxer, Hattons a swarmer.

If Hatton is going to force his way then he ought to do it with a tactic unlike Mayorga against Oscar or he would be too easy for a fighter like Floyd to dominate and control.

Marnoff
09-18-2007, 11:09 PM
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And Mayweather isn't any of the has beens or bums that Hatton has been fighting. What is your point?

He has no point. That moron just hates Floyd. It was compounded by the fact that he cheers Oscar on at all costs, and was humiliated when his hero got outboxed.

Pimp C
09-18-2007, 11:10 PM
One thing is for sure is it will be damn near impossible for Hatton to land that punch in the midle of the ring on PBF, his only chance is against the ropes.

Marnoff
09-18-2007, 11:11 PM
Yea, whatever you say, first of real boxing fans would want the best fighter fighting the best figthers. Oscar De La Hoya has NEVER cherry-picked, and has always fought the best. Fraud Gayrunner, has avioded many, and cherrypicked even more. He lucky to have walked away in a win in his last fight cause a 34 yr, part time fighter gave him a SD. Floyd will get more respect from real boxing fans when he mans up and fights the best.

Another nonspecific post from you. Why don't you ever join the actual detailed threads and hash your point out with facts and evidence? I never see you take part in the real debate threads, you only hit-and-run worse on these boards than you say Mayweather does in actual fights.

Marnoff
09-18-2007, 11:13 PM
In terms of this thread... I see both fights probably getting hit with some very solid body shots. I could expect the impact to be felt more emphatically by Hatton, as he doesn't stay fit between fights. Floyd stays in peak form at all times, and unless Hatton can consistently land ruthless body shots, he won't have success. Floyd won't drop on a single shot, so Hatton is going to need to devote himself to body work the entire fight, from the opening bell. To his credit, he has always done this, which makes it interesting.

Jose FM
09-18-2007, 11:17 PM
Another nonspecific post from you. Why don't you ever join the actual detailed threads and hash your point out with facts and evidence? I never see you take part in the real debate threads, you only hit-and-run worse on these boards than you say Mayweather does in actual fights.
I was responding that toopretty cause he brought up Oscar in a Mayweather thread, so why dont you read why im saying what im saying b4 jumping to conclusions.

Pimp C
09-18-2007, 11:18 PM
Another nonspecific post from you. Why don't you ever join the actual detailed threads and hash your point out with facts and evidence? I never see you take part in the real debate threads, you only hit-and-run worse on these boards than you say Mayweather does in actual fights.
Exactly he's a joke the guy has probably never been in a ring in his life and probably just started watching boxing. His points are always horrible and he has no real boxing knowledge.

nervousxtian
09-18-2007, 11:24 PM
Floyd usually never gets that far enough out of position to leave himself open to the shot Castillo took.

Ricky doesn't land that punch if Castillo doesn't get off balance and way out of position leaving his liver exposed.

Floyd won't do that.

I give Ricky a chance, but we'll know by the 2nd round how the fight is going to go.

Jose FM
09-18-2007, 11:26 PM
Exactly he's a joke the guy has probably never been in a ring in his life and probably just started watching boxing. His points are always horrible and he has no real boxing knowledge.
I have yet to see anything intelligent coming from your posts at all! One of the few to be honest. And actually i made a very good point in what i was saying up there it just happened to be off topic... Cause you and toopretty start with personal attacks, like he pays you or sumthing... And all im saying is that Gayrunner is a Fraud, he is Fraud Gayrunner.

Pimp C
09-18-2007, 11:33 PM
I have yet to see anything intelligent coming from your posts at all! One of the few to be honest. And actually i made a very good point in what i was saying up there it just happened to be off topic... Cause you and toopretty start with personal attacks, like he pays you or sumthing... And all im saying is that Gayrunner is a Fraud, he is Fraud Gayrunner.
You're and Oscarsexual to the fullest:hi: My problem with you is that you let your hate for PBF cloud your judgemenet just like you did for ther Oscar-PBF fight even when preseneted with sound logic and rational analysis you still find a way to pick against him. You can't look at this fight and tell me that Hatton should be the favorite. He's simply outgunned here no shame in that. I just hate the fact that Hatton ducked PBF at 140 where this fight should have taken place years ago.

nervousxtian
09-18-2007, 11:37 PM
Both of you should STFU, you both nuthug fighters.

Neither one of you should talk shit before taking a look in the mirror first.

Jose FM
09-18-2007, 11:44 PM
You're and Oscarsexual to the fullest:hi: My problem with you is that you let your hate for PBF cloud your judgemenet just like you did for ther Oscar-PBF fight even when preseneted with sound logic and rational analysis you still find a way to pick against him. You can't look at this fight and tell me that Hatton should be the favorite. He's simply outgunned here no shame in that. I just hate the fact that Hatton ducked PBF at 140 where this fight should have taken place years ago.
I just dont respect Floyd as a fighter, cause he himself leaves it for others to judge, if he was fighting Mosley or Cotto, he would get more respect from me. Hes been cherrypicking for while too long now and his fans just let him get away with that like its all good. Im sorry but if i see something then i must call it how i see it. Great fighters dont aviod other fighters and hes been doing that for wayyyy too long.

Jose FM
09-18-2007, 11:50 PM
Id rather be an Oscarsexual than a fraud nuthugger, he at least fought the best out there and say what you want about him but Mayweather should learn a thing or two from Oscar, he did it the right way.

KhanB
09-18-2007, 11:50 PM
I just dont respect Floyd as a fighter, cause he himself leaves it for others to judge, if he was fighting Mosley or Cotto, he would get more respect from me. Hes been cherrypicking for while too long now and his fans just let him get away with that like its all good. Im sorry but if i see something then i must call it how i see it. Great fighters dont aviod other fighters and hes been doing that for wayyyy too long.

Boy Floyd should never get accused of ducking Mosley. That toothache was the worst excuse ive heard of. And Cotto only says what Arum tells him to say and he had no chance of beating Floyd at 140 anyway where his chin was weaker. And Goldie is the queen of cherry picking.

C Money
09-18-2007, 11:50 PM
Bodywork??


ADVANTAGE HATTON ALL DAY EVERY DAY:good

If Ricky is landing to Floyd's body?? Yall Primadonna boy fans are in T-R-O-U-B-L-E:yep

What happened to "floyd's gonna dominate with the jab and straight right hands, then use the elbow when Hatton tries to smother him inside"????


You better pray that scenario plays out, because if it doesnt?? :lol:
Hatton doing effective bodywork spells L-O-S-S for Floyd toy:happy

Personally, I predict a combination of both scenario's taking place!!!! Whomever shows up in better shape for the long haul?? Thats who's gonna take the W, IMO:hi:

BigReg
09-18-2007, 11:52 PM
Bodywork??


ADVANTAGE HATTON ALL DAY EVERY DAY:good

If Ricky is landing to Floyd's body?? Yall Primadonna boy fans are in T-R-O-U-B-L-E:yep

What happened to "floyd's gonna dominate with the jab and straight right hands, then use the elbow when Hatton tries to smother him inside"????


You better pray that scenario plays out, because if it doesnt?? :lol:
Hatton doing effective bodywork spells L-O-S-S for Floyd toy:happy

Personally, I predict a combination of both scenario's taking place!!!! Whomever shows up in better shape for the long haul?? Thats who's gonna take the W, IMO:hi:

Make a definitive prediction, who are you picking to win?

Jose FM
09-18-2007, 11:52 PM
Boy Floyd should never get accused of ducking Mosley. That toothache was the worst excuse ive heard of. And Cotto only says what Arum tells him to say and he had no chance of beating Floyd at 140 anyway where his chin was weaker. And Goldie is the queen of cherry picking.
OK, like who?

C Money
09-18-2007, 11:57 PM
Make a definitive prediction, who are you picking to win?

:lol:

Wow... was this the official prediction thread???

Gee, i sure couldnt tell from the title:nono


You and the rest of the groupies can wait with baited breath for my official pick til the week of the fight.

All I can say for now, is that floyds the favorite:good

C Money
09-19-2007, 12:00 AM
Boy Floyd should never get accused of ducking Mosley. That toothache was the worst excuse ive heard of. And Cotto only says what Arum tells him to say and he had no chance of beating Floyd at 140 anyway where his chin was weaker. And Goldie is the queen of cherry picking.

Toothache my ass!!!

Quit talking that BS!!

You, Floyd, and th rest of tyhe world knows that that excuse and Floyd's "offer" was nothing but promotional BS designed to leverage the PBF vs DLH fight that both men really wanted.

Go ahead, let Floyd call out Shane if he beats Cotto, see if theres another excuse:yep

You know there wont be, that reasoning was just so he didnt step on his majority partner's toes and no reasonable, logical, individual doubts that.

BigReg
09-19-2007, 12:01 AM
:lol:

Wow... was this the official prediction thread???

Gee, i sure couldnt tell from the title:nono


You and the rest of the groupies can wait with baited breath for my official pick til the week of the fight.

All I can say for now, is that floyds the favorite:good

I'm hardly a groupie, I just don't subscribe to theories such as people ducking people 3 weight classes above them, but that's another issue. I really don't need to wait for your official pick. I don't believe you're stupid enough to pick Hatton, unless of course Floyd twists an ankle dancing with the stars

BigReg
09-19-2007, 12:03 AM
Toothache my ass!!!

Quit talking that BS!!

You, Floyd, and th rest of tyhe world knows that that excuse and Floyd's "offer" was nothing but promotional BS designed to leverage the PBF vs DLH fight that both men really wanted.

Go ahead, let Floyd call out Shane if he beats Cotto, see if theres another excuse:yep

You know there wont be, that reasoning was just so he didnt step on his majority partner's toes and no reasonable, logical, individual doubts that.

If it was leverage, how come Floyd said he wanted to fight Shane in Nov. and Oscar in May? And how can Floyd use on of Osacr's employees as leverage? Oscar could easily tell Shane to fall back(I believe this is what happened)

C Money
09-19-2007, 12:06 AM
I'm hardly a groupie, I just don't subscribe to theories such as people ducking people 3 weight classes above them, but that's another issue. I really don't need to wait for your official pick. I don't believe you're stupid enough to pick Hatton, unless of course Floyd twists an ankle dancing with the stars

Ok...Ok, I'll downgrade YOU from groupie to cheerleader:good

Why call out a Champ 3 weight classes above you with better credentials then change previously agreed to terms last minute???:lol:

Honestly?? Floyd should have the edge here but guess what?? So should have Kostya Tszyu:good Hatton is the biggest fight of Floyds career to date:yep

Like I said, if we are talking about Hatton doing good body work in this fight?? Floyds in big trouble!!

If he cant dominate from the outside with speed, reach, movement. and angles??

UH-OH, the 0 might go:bbb

doom bull
09-19-2007, 12:09 AM
Floyd vs. Hatton is a joke. Just an excuse to put more money in Hatton's pocket for the jukebox at the pub. No way can he compete with PBF. And I don't like Mayweather.

BigReg
09-19-2007, 12:12 AM
Ok...Ok, I'll downgrade YOU from groupie to cheerleader:good

Why call out a Champ 3 weight classes above you with better credentials then change previously agreed to terms last minute???:lol:

Honestly?? Floyd should have the edge here but guess what?? So should have Kostya Tszyu:good Hatton is the biggest fight of Floyds career to date:yep

Like I said, if we are talking about Hatton doing good body work in this fight?? Floyds in big trouble!!

If he cant dominate from the outside with speed, reach, movement. and angles??

UH-OH, the 0 might go:bbb

Cheerleader has too much of feminate conotation, I prefer staunch supporter. I'm not even going to into the Winky Wright debate again. I've spent too much time on the issue already. Yeah if he can't be effective on the oustide with his speed, reach, movement and angles, he could lose. I doubt Hatton's ability to force Floyd to fight inside.

C Money
09-19-2007, 12:20 AM
Cheerleader has too much of feminate conotation, I prefer staunch supporter. I'm not even going to into the Winky Wright debate again. I've spent too much time on the issue already. Yeah if he can't be effective on the oustide with his speed, reach, movement and angles, he could lose. I doubt Hatton's ability to force Floyd to fight inside.


Geez...... ALRIGHT, "staunch supporter" pretty close to athlectic supporter if you ask me, but?? I dont wanna offend you're masculine side:nono

:lol:

C'mon man, I'm not ACCUSING YOU OF ANY FEMINITY ISSUES. :nono
Just poking a little fun at the fervor with which floyd fans pursue/defend their "hero".

To answer you're other question about fighting Shane in Nov and DLH in may?? Well, DLH actually believed he could win and knowing ddep down that Shane was better than he was?? It would have diminished Oscar's victory we're he able to acheve it.

As for Winky?? You aint gonna win that argument but are entitled to believe as you wish:good I respect you're support but find conventional logic in opposition.

brooklyn1550
09-19-2007, 12:22 AM
If Mayweather doesn't see the bodyshot coming and it lands square on his ribs/kidney, it will hurt him. A bodyshot placed correctly can hurt anybody.

Fedor Em
09-19-2007, 12:27 AM
A perfectly placed body shot can hurt any fighter, even one who condictions himself like Floyd. If he lands that same body shot he put on Castillo then Floyd would most likely go down. That is a near impossible shot to land on a fighter of Mayweathers caliber though.

Toopretty
09-19-2007, 12:47 AM
Well...If hatton is looking for that one punch..and thinks floyd would go down..he has another thing coming..punches in the face..Hatton better watch his own tender belly. He is the one that jumps in the air when a clean body shot lands.

Guru_Too_You
09-19-2007, 01:08 AM
what happens if hatton lands a bodyshot like he did against castillo?

hmm.... Hatton is VERY aggressive fighter, im not sure if Floyd can handle it.

See Floyd-Castillo I.

Floyd fought through broken ribds in that one and squeaked out his most highly disputed decision.

C Money
09-19-2007, 01:10 AM
Well...If hatton is looking for that one punch..and thinks floyd would go down..he has another thing coming..punches in the face..Hatton better watch his own tender belly. He is the one that jumps in the air when a clean body shot lands.

:lol:

One punch??


:nono

If Hatton's inside?? Wont be no one punch!!! you better stick to the outside game scebario:good

All the inside game???


Well, that belongs to ricky, and you know this man!!!!!!!!!!!!


:rofl

Just having fun, dont get all offended on me:good

Guru_Too_You
09-19-2007, 01:12 AM
:lol:

One punch??


:nono

If Hatton's inside?? Wont be no one punch!!! you better stick to the outside game scebario:good

All the inside game???


Well, that belongs to ricky, and you know this man!!!!!!!!!!!!


:rofl

Just having fun, dont get all offended on me:good

Are you picking Hatton in this one?

C Money
09-19-2007, 01:30 AM
Are you picking Hatton in this one?

See Big Reg's response and hold you're breath:good

Toopretty
09-19-2007, 01:33 AM
:lol:

One punch??


:nono

If Hatton's inside?? Wont be no one punch!!! you better stick to the outside game scebario:good

All the inside game???


Well, that belongs to ricky, and you know this man!!!!!!!!!!!!


:rofl

Just having fun, dont get all offended on me:good

Call me nuthugger supreme..but I think Floyd will school Hatton on the inside..His punches are shorter crisper and sharper...And he will uppercut the shit out of hatton and beat him to the punch a whole lot...Watch come December the huggyman who got whooped ON THE INSIDE BY COLLAZO who is an average slick in-fighter..FLOYD IS GOING TO HIT HIM WITH EVERY SHOT AND THAT SAME LEFT HOOK TO THE RIBS THAT HATTON THROWS IS PREDICTABLE AS ANY PUNCH IN BOXING...IT WILL BE BLOCKED AND COUNTERED. TRUST....Hatton throws he same punch from the same spot every time...under left hook the comes over top with the right hand..same thing over and over...

C Money
09-19-2007, 01:41 AM
Call me nuthugger supreme..but I think Floyd will school Hatton on the inside..His punches are shorter crisper and sharper...And he will uppercut the shit out of hatton and beat him to the punch a whole lot...Watch come December the huggyman who got whooped ON THE INSIDE BY COLLAZO who is an average slick in-fighter..FLOYD IS GOING TO HIT HIM WITH EVERY SHOT AND THAT SAME LEFT HOOK TO THE RIBS THAT HATTON THROWS IS PREDICTABLE AS ANY PUNCH IN BOXING...IT WILL BE BLOCKED AND COUNTERED. TRUST....Hatton throws he same punch from the same spot every time...under left hook the comes over top with the right hand..same thing over and over...

:lol:

I've come to have some 'love" 4 yam, so i cant call ya nuthigger supreme:nono You're a bit too rational to own that title:lol:

Although, in this case?? I think you lost a little perspective:yep
On the inside??? Its Hatton land, on the outside Floyd's playground:good

One thing we've been round about and it seems you still dont/wont comprehend is the Collazo comparison. Collazo was a SOUTHPAW and has no bearing whatsoever on how Hatton performs in this fight. The southpaw stance took away Hattons power shot to the body which is his left hook:good Floyd and every other orthodox fighter under the sun wont be so lucky:nono

If Floyd stays outside and capitalizes on the 1,2's??? It's his fight!!
If Hatton gets inside, ties up, and gets off to the body??



UH-OH....WHACH YA GONNA DO NOW????