****** says Murray was offered the Khan fight.

[robpalmer135]

from Manchester Evening News

FRANK ****** has told John Murray to forget about a Battle of Britain clash with Amir Khan.

Murray regained his British lightweight title in stunning fashion on Saturday and immediately challenged WBA light-welterweight champion Khan to a mouth-watering showdown.

But Khan's promoter, ******, insists there is no chance of the bout taking place, claiming Murray has missed his chance of a potentially epic battle. "We made an offer to John and they never came back, so that is dead in the water now," he said.

"We don't want any cry baby stuff now saying they want this and that. They had their opportunity and they didn't even respond to it. He was on the list. He was one of the guys we were talking to and we are still talking to a couple more at the moment.

"John was a possibility, providing he could have got rated, but that was a fight I definitely would have wanted."

******'s comments are in direct contradiction to the message coming out of Murray's Denton camp that he is desperate to take on long-time rival Khan.

[Mazallan]

What has Murray done to ******t a title fight or to even be mentioned in the same sentance as Khan?

[dan-b]

****** regularly makes these sorts of claims, how much credence should we pay them? I was under the impression the WBA were not going to allow a voluntary defence, which suggests any Murray bout would've taken place without the strap. Would team Khan be ready to make this kind of commitment for a fight with Murray?

[Mazallan]

Does it say anywhere when ****** offered the fight to Murray? I mean ****** could be talking about since Khan has been around the top of the world ratings or before the Prescott fight.

[threethirteen]

What had Khan done to warrant a title shot?

[rumour24tiger]

What has Murray done to ******t a title fight or to even be mentioned in the same sentance as Khan?what did Khan do to warrant a shot at Kotelnik?

[turpinr]

What has Murray done to ******t a title fight or to even be mentioned in the same sentance as Khan?what did khan do ??

[rumour24tiger]

Does it say anywhere when ****** offered the fight to Murray? I mean ****** could be talking about since Khan has been around the top of the world ratings or before the Prescott fight.roach and khan said something about a murray fight, and ****** rubbished the claims, saying it was always going to be khan-salita.

so i wonder when this opening for a murray fight was supposed to be.

probably after murray-meager when they were asking murray to drop the british title. i think if it was a serious offer, murray and his trainer would have bitten ******'s hand off at the chance!

sounds like usual ****** bollocks. i recall that haye was ducking maccarinelli.

[Mazallan]

what did khan do ??

1. Be totally fucking amazing.

what did Khan do to warrant a shot at Kotelnik?

2. Beat a number of former title challengers and a legendary Mexican.

What had Khan done to warrant a title shot?

3. Went with a promoter who can pull shit off and not stick around fighting bums until his 20th fight.

Murray is still fighting shot to shit vets like Johanesson and Thaxton.

[Mazallan]

roach and khan said something about a murray fight, and ****** rubbished the claims, saying it was always going to be khan-salita.

so i wonder when this opening for a murray fight was supposed to be.

probably after murray-meager when they were asking murray to drop the british title. i think if it was a serious offer, murray and his trainer would have bitten ******'s hand off at the chance!

sounds like usual ****** bollocks. i recall that haye was ducking maccarinelli.


Yep it sounds like total shite to be honest or the usual ****** offering a fight that the opponent can not possibly take due to other commitments etc.

[turpinr]

****** regularly makes these sorts of claims, how much credence should we pay them? I was under the impression the WBA were not going to allow a voluntary defence, which suggests any Murray bout would've taken place without the strap. Would team Khan be ready to make this kind of commitment for a fight with Murray?
are ****** and terry marsh still best mates:lol:

[rumour24tiger]

Yep it sounds like total shite to be honest or the usual ****** offering a fight that the opponent can not possibly take due to other commitments etc.also, maybe i'm being paranoid, but i can perhaps see what's being lined up.

once khan has got boring mandatory salita out of the way...cue a defence vs a british fighter...****** to keep it "in house"

meanwhile, coincidentally, alecsh arthur - "my doctor says i can't fight any lower than light welterweight"

khan vs "former world champion/ballooned up in weight" arthur?

only on sky box office for £15

[Mazallan]

Murray has not fought Carl. Perhaps you should take some time to peruse his ring record, watch his fights and have a logical thought before you, you know, make statements that are incorrect.

Shit. :patsch I got him mixed up with Mitchell.

Ok so Murray has only foughta shot to shit Thaxton. :-(

[G.A.V.]

Yeah, I'm sure you did ******. Like the challenge you gave to Witter with about two weeks notice? Fuck off ****** you slug-looking cunt.

[rumour24tiger]

Shit. :patsch I got him mixed up with Mitchell.

Ok so Murray has only foughta shot to shit Thaxton. :-(like khan fought a shot and blown up michael gomez, getting hurt and dropped in the process; gomez shortly getting stopped by the huge punching ricky burns, before going unlicenced

at least thaxton's last championship fight (and his last 135-pound fight), was a controversial, narrow defeat, a fight he rightfully would have won via 1 round KO. so he was still clearly dangerous and certainly deserved a british title fight after barely losing his european title fight.

FYI, murray was desperate for the thaxton fight since murray stopped dean hickman for the english title.

thaxton, mcallister, hickman - big lightweights all, each stopped by murray. in fact, former light welterweights. thaxton interestingly actually beat a british and commonwealth champ up at light welter once (non title bout with scrap iron ryan); and mcallister had good form up at light welter (WBU champ); and hickman held a win over mcallister as well as adnan amar, in a spotty career. so you can go on about all these apparent shot fighters that murray faced; but at least he doesn't pick on smaller men from the division below him, as a certain amazing fighter does you could say that murray picks on bigger men, in fact.

[mughalmirza786]

like khan fought a shot and blown up michael gomez, getting hurt and dropped in the process; gomez shortly getting stopped by the huge punching ricky burns, before going unlicenced

at least thaxton's last championship fight (and his last 135-pound fight), was a controversial, narrow defeat, a fight he rightfully would have won via 1 round KO. so he was still clearly dangerous and certainly deserved a british title fight after barely losing his european title fight.

FYI, murray was desperate for the thaxton fight since murray stopped dean hickman for the english title.

thaxton, mcallister, hickman - big lightweights all, each stopped by murray. in fact, former light welterweights. thaxton interestingly actually beat a british and commonwealth champ up at light welter once (non title bout with scrap iron ryan); and mcallister had good form up at light welter (WBU champ); and hickman held a win over mcallister as well as adnan amar, in a spotty career. so you can go on about all these apparent shot fighters that murray faced; but at least he doesn't pick on smaller men from the division below him, as a certain amazing fighter does you could say that murray picks on bigger men, in fact.

Nobody murray has beaten is as good as kotelnik or a balooned up barerra, although the barerra win was controversial. Amir khan almost completely shut out a decent beltholder with his first move up in weight. Murrays career is moving far too slowly, he should step it up big time.

[brown bomber]

Murray needs to forget about Khan- I think he can become a world champion at his own weight. Katsidis is a great fight for him. Khan is quickly losing the exciting style that made him must-view. I'd much rather watch a Murray fight- at least you know there is going to be some action. Khans only good to watch because he may get knocked out.

[turpinr]

how long can murray stay at lightweight ??

[whatcouldabeen]

not for very long, i think in his mind he knows he'll have to move up, looks really gaunt at weigh ins

[turpinr]

not for very long, i think in his mind he knows he'll have to move up, looks really gaunt at weigh ins
thats exactly what i thought

[rumour24tiger]

Nobody murray has beaten is as good as kotelnik or a balooned up barerra, although the barerra win was controversial. Amir khan almost completely shut out a decent beltholder with his first move up in weight. Murrays career is moving far too slowly, he should step it up big time.
headbutting a fat blown up barrera and winning when it should have been a technical draw is no achievement. it basically got khan's confidence up for the kotelnik fight - it was a confidence trick, that worked. khan will never be short of opportunities, because he was an olympic medallist and there is more money to promote khan than there is to murray - murray, who turned pro totally unknown.

khan has been picking on super featherweights whose styles are no threat to him, for a long time. and even got hurt badly in 2 such fights and KO'd in a round by one of the few opponents that was the same size as him (admittedly dangerous prescott).

of course, khan delivered when he got the big opportunity, v kotelnik, already demeaning his own achievement by saying kotelnik was the weakest world champion in boxing (this seems to be the mindset of the ****** fighter, as per alex arthur - "I want Gairy St Clair, the weakesht of the shuper featherweight championsh"). murray is doing great so far, his domestic run is more convincing than khan's commonwealth run and like i say he's stopped some bigger men to boot.

i'm sure when john murray gets his big opportunity, that he will also deliver. and i'm sure it will be a lot more exciting, as well.

[mughalmirza786]

headbutting a fat blown up barrera and winning when it should have been a technical draw is no achievement. it basically got khan's confidence up for the kotelnik fight - it was a confidence trick, that worked. khan will never be short of opportunities, because he was an olympic medallist and there is more money to promote khan than there is to murray - murray, who turned pro totally unknown.

khan has been picking on super featherweights whose styles are no threat to him, for a long time. and even got hurt badly in 2 such fights and KO'd in a round by one of the few opponents that was the same size as him (admittedly dangerous prescott).

of course, khan delivered when he got the big opportunity, v kotelnik, already demeaning his own achievement by saying kotelnik was the weakest world champion in boxing (this seems to be the mindset of the ****** fighter, as per alex arthur - "I want Gairy St Clair, the weakesht of the shuper featherweight championsh"). murray is doing great so far, his domestic run is more convincing than khan's commonwealth run and like i say he's stopped some bigger men to boot.

i'm sure when john murray gets his big opportunity, that he will also deliver. and i'm sure it will be a lot more exciting, as well.

You do realise that khan only said that stuff about kotelnik as a ploy to get him to sign the fight. He may have been the weakest champ at 140 for sure but 140 is a stacked division at the top. The only problem i see with murray is i dont see the potential in him. Murray has a good chin however it hasnt really been tested on world level. He has power again not tested at world level. His boxing skill is quite good but hes far too slow. Khan has had many less fights than murray, is also younger than him and i can see the potential in him simply because of his speed height and reach.

[Pug1list]

headbutting a fat blown up barrera and winning when it should have been a technical draw is no achievement. it basically got khan's confidence up for the kotelnik fight - it was a confidence trick, that worked. khan will never be short of opportunities, because he was an olympic medallist and there is more money to promote khan than there is to murray - murray, who turned pro totally unknown.

khan has been picking on super featherweights whose styles are no threat to him, for a long time. and even got hurt badly in 2 such fights and KO'd in a round by one of the few opponents that was the same size as him (admittedly dangerous prescott).

of course, khan delivered when he got the big opportunity, v kotelnik, already demeaning his own achievement by saying kotelnik was the weakest world champion in boxing (this seems to be the mindset of the ****** fighter, as per alex arthur - "I want Gairy St Clair, the weakesht of the shuper featherweight championsh"). murray is doing great so far, his domestic run is more convincing than khan's commonwealth run and like i say he's stopped some bigger men to boot.

i'm sure when john murray gets his big opportunity, that he will also deliver. and i'm sure it will be a lot more exciting, as well.

I stopped reading after headbutt.

[abzmanc]

Khan has fought better opponents than Murray I belive, previous to the Thaxton fight, Murray was fighting against Scott Lawton, who Khan fought and stopped a number of years ago. The comparisons of Murray and Khan should stop, if Murray want to build a decent career, he should do exactly that and him and his fans should stop obsessing about Khan and the privileges he has what come with winning an Olympic Medal.