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Addie
10-07-2009, 01:31 PM
Sorry if the gifs have been overload on you guys, but I think it helps the discussion if I provide you all of footage of the fighter in question. We could clearly see in my Duran vs Barkley thread a few days back that Duran was making Barkley miss and coming back with hard counters, as evidenced by numerous gifs I implemented. Likewise, here, I feel if I provide you with some video evidence of Barrera putting punches together, we can properly access at just how good of a combination puncher he was at his best.

Personally, I rate Marco Antonio Barrera very highly in this category. What I like to see in a combination puncher is speed, accuracy, and variety in punch option. I think Barrera nailed every criteria I just listed. He had blazing handspeed as a featherweight, and even faster as a Super Bantamweight. Later on, during his days 126lbs, his punch output came down so he was more accurate. He rarely missed when he let his hands go, and although he lacks the the numbers Chavez would throw, or the technique of Arguello (lets face it, not many people measure up to his technique), I think Marco should be credited as one of the standout combination punchers of the last 15 years.

Thoughts and opinions? Here's some gifs to help you come up with an analysis, if you haven't seen much of Marco..for whatever reason.

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lefthook31
10-07-2009, 01:35 PM
Absolutely. Not too many fighters throw good combinations anymore, especially heavyweights, but hes certainly good accurate combination puncher, off of counters which is even more impressive and effective.

Addie
10-07-2009, 01:40 PM
Absolutely. Not too many fighters throw good combinations anymore, especially heavyweights, but hes certainly good accurate combination puncher, off of counters which is even more impressive and effective.

The Ayala knockdown was just an absolute beauty. Watching it in real time, you can't even tell how many punches he throws and lands because it happens so fast. Marco was a supreme puncher in combination, and as you say, he did it off of counters a lot of the time.

Bill Butcher
10-07-2009, 02:00 PM
Very good combination puncher it must be said, fast, accurate & enough power to respect.

teeto
10-07-2009, 02:24 PM
He was a very good combo hitter. Some people, especially nowadays mistake flurrying for combination punching. Barrera could combo hit. It takes a proper skillset to throw good combos. And later in his career when he was more composed and refined as a boxer he could throw plenty of leather on the move. He could do that in different ways too, like against Hamed he was pumping all kinds off the jab in 'boxer mode', using some lateral movement but mainly an astute judgement of distance in that one. Then how he closed the show against the past prime Tapia, sort of jumping in and out and throwing shitloads of straight shots in succession to overwhelm his man, as he knew he couldn't handle that pace anymore.

He was a good combination puncher, and like the gifs show, he could mix it to head and body as well.

PowerPuncher
10-07-2009, 02:32 PM
I like his combination throwing when he was in his early 20s

Addie
10-07-2009, 02:43 PM
I like his combination throwing when he was in his early 20s

I could grab some gifs of his work against the likes of Eddie Croft, Jesse Magana, and Kennedy Mckinney quite easily. I thought he became a more polished and better all round fighter as a result of his too loses to Jones, though...personally.

teeto
10-07-2009, 02:47 PM
I could grab some gifs of his work against the likes of Eddie Croft, Jesse Magana, and Kennedy Mckinney quite easily. I thought he became a more polished and better all round fighter as a result of his too loses to Jones, though...personally.
Well yeah he certainly started displaying what could have him labelled as a 'complete fighter' stylistically and technically after the losses to Jones. Feel free to post them gifs though Addie!!

Addie
10-07-2009, 02:51 PM
Well yeah he certainly started displaying what could have him labelled as a 'complete fighter' stylistically and technically after the losses to Jones. Feel free to post them gifs though Addie!!

Stay tuned :good This gif business is fun.

teeto
10-07-2009, 02:54 PM
Stay tuned :good This gif business is fun.
I'm here my man.

Addie
10-07-2009, 02:58 PM
I'm here my man.

Not a combination, but this is a peach of a counter in one of Marco's greatest ever performances...in my opinion. Divac, a Marquez fan, once claimed that Marco was a one handed fighter. That to me is like saying Arguello never worked to the body. It's ridiculous. Barrera could do a lot of things with that right hand, including countering with a picture perfect uppercut whilst remaining in perfect balance. :good Barrera will never be remembered the best of his era, but he was one of them, because he was special. He did things not many other fighters around then could do.

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teeto
10-07-2009, 03:03 PM
Not a combination, but this is a peach of a counter in one of Marco's greatest ever performances...in my opinion. Divac, a Marquez fan, once claimed that Marco was a one handed fighter. That to me is like saying Arguello never worked to the body. It's ridiculous. Barrera could do a lot of things with that right hand, including countering with a picture perfect uppercut whilst remaining in perfect balance. :good Barrera will never be remembered the best of his era, but he was one of them, because he was special. He did things not many other fighters around then could do.

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Yeah that's a bit not right to say he had no right hand in his arsenal. Sometimes he'd start fast punches in bunches with it as well. The right carried some power as well, not something to shout about, but the Mzonke Fana ko at the tail end of his career shows that.

Thanks for the gif Addie

Addie
10-07-2009, 03:05 PM
Yeah that's a bit not right to say he had no right hand in his arsenal. Sometimes he'd start fast punches in bunches with it as well. The right carried some power as well, not something to shout about, but the Mzonke Fana ko at the tail end of his career shows that.

Thanks for the gif Addie

No problem, Teeto :good

What Divac said was quite ironic, considering Marco floored his favorite fighter with that very right hand. Juan Manuel Marquez, another fantastic combination puncher. :good

teeto
10-07-2009, 03:07 PM
Yeah i was just thinking about that right hand droppage actually, i was like 'wasn't that with a right hand counter??!', i certainly remember the shot on the ground was a right! Haha.

Addie
10-07-2009, 03:11 PM
Yeah i was just thinking about that right hand droppage actually, i was like 'wasn't that with a right hand counter??!', i certainly remember the shot on the ground was a right! Haha.

In hindsight, the three point shift didn't matter all that much because one judge had the fight something like 118-109...which is insane. That fight could have been truly special had Barrera not fucked himself over by getting a point deducted, and had Nady scored the knockdown as such.

How did you view the Marquez vs Barrera fight? I think Marquez won, but not by those margins.

teeto
10-07-2009, 03:18 PM
In hindsight, the three point shift didn't matter all that much because one judge had the fight something like 118-109...which is insane. That fight could have been truly special had Barrera not fucked himself over by getting a point deducted, and had Nady scored the knockdown as such.

How did you view the Marquez vs Barrera fight? I think Marquez won, but not by those margins.
I only watched it live, the once. And at the time i was being a bit of a fan of Barrera to be honest, and i was thinking along the lines of 'i can give that round to Barrera on the basis of.....etc etc', but after the fight when no analysists had it for Marco i jusr sort of surrendered and i did really have the fight for Marquez. It was some of the trademark punches in bunches that did it, he exerted too many in some vital rounds that put scoring it for Barrera just out fo reach for me (unbiased). I thought Barrera might have done better if he had got stuck in more to be honest, the boxing strategy ironically didn't sit well with me becaue Barrera himself at that point in his career seemed to switvh to thst mode when he seemed 'off'.

That's why in the describe Barrera in one word thread i said unpredictable.

Bill Butcher
10-07-2009, 05:13 PM
In hindsight, the three point shift didn't matter all that much because one judge had the fight something like 118-109...which is insane. That fight could have been truly special had Barrera not fucked himself over by getting a point deducted, and had Nady scored the knockdown as such.

How did you view the Marquez vs Barrera fight? I think Marquez won, but not by those margins.

I agree Marquez won close but clear, personally.

I think at both their bests tho, Barrera beats Marquez by close decision, a close UD or MD.

Bazt3k
05-20-2012, 06:48 AM
Bump - i demand more barrera gifs be posted

Boxed Ears
05-20-2012, 07:00 AM
Bump - i demand more barrera gifs be posted

:lol::verysad Addie got himself banned posting porn in the lounge.