Oleg Maskaev vs. Samuel Peter [Archive]

madpup

09-19-2007, 10:34 AM

Hungry is the right word, somehow i have the feeling Peter takes the big O to lightly and comes in out of shape. In that case: Oleg by UD.

Despite the fact that Peter had success against a hungry fighter in James Toney, I have to agree with your assessment. I think Peter will underprepare, swing wildly, and lose a UD.

DamonD

09-19-2007, 10:36 AM

Peter by TKO.

Not a walkover, but he will win.

FlatNose

09-19-2007, 10:59 AM

I voted for Peter, but Oleg has surprised before, and quite frankly, Peter isn't all that.Yeah, big puncher, but except for the three knockdowns against the chinless Klitchko, and two decisions over obese middleweight Toney, Sam has hardly set the world on fire.It is concieveable that Maskaev could shut down big Sam with the jab.

Alo2006

09-19-2007, 11:02 AM

Peter by late TKO

Brickhaus

09-19-2007, 11:05 AM

Peter by KO. Oleg has a strong punch himself, but Peter has a granite chin and Oleg has one of the worse chins in the HW division. If Maskaev can avoid getting hit in the back of the head, or if the ref actually deducts points from Peter for doing it (it hasn't happened to him in the past), then Maskaev stands a shot at winning, but I suspect this one ends up with Maskaev's trainer breaking poppers under Maskaev's nose.

Zakman

09-19-2007, 11:12 AM

DamonD

09-19-2007, 11:14 AM

There has been growing and stong support for Maskaev here over the months though, which means it should make for a great atmosphere in ESB come fight night...which is great!

A-50

09-19-2007, 11:30 AM

Here are my thoughts:

Oleg has a Glass Jaw, that has been established in the past as a fact. Oleg is also a timid/slow starter in fights. Watch the first 2 rounds of the 2nd Rahman fight for an example of this. Peter will catch Oleg with one of his clubbing punches early in the fight. Oleg could use movement but I think he will try and slug and get caught around the 5th round or so. Oleg can win a UD, but I do not think he will last the fight before getting caught first with a huge punch.

Zakman

09-19-2007, 11:41 AM

Maskaev's chin is far better than when he first stated his career .

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Chins don't get BETTER with age, they get WORSE. And in Peter, Oleg is facing the most powerful puncher he's probably EVER gone up against. He will be dispatched EARLY, very early.

madpup

09-19-2007, 11:51 AM

First few rounds I anticipate Maskaev doing an impression of Ruiz and hugging a lot, whilst Peter will come in like a King Kong swinging wildly, mostly into thin air. If Maskaev weathers the storm, and I suspect he will, he will start taking over the fight and land regularly as Peter's defence consists of blocking punches with his head. I do not think Peter will have a plan B, he will keep in swinging and will tire out and then his head will become a punching bag.

BIGTIMETIMMY

09-19-2007, 12:03 PM

peter ko 5

Ambition_Def

09-19-2007, 12:17 PM

He hasn't gotten knocked down in 5 years because he has faced a string of tomato cans and journeymen en route to fighting Hasim Rahman again. Mind you, Rahman being a guy who is tailor made for Maskaev (slow, questionable chin, bad stamina).

Sam Peter will be the first guy Maskaev fights who is actually fast enough and strong enough to give him problems in well over 5 years. And Sam Peter is nearly impossible to hurt. He had the biggest guy in the division banging on him over 12 rounds with flush right hands and left hooks. Only once in the 12th was he hurt.

You have to keep in mind that many guys have paid the price of Sam Peter's power including James Toney, who by the way still got knocked down and nearly out in the rematch. Maskaev is a stiff in the ring who relys on a strong jab to keep opponents off of him. He has virtually no head movement, and no foot movement. He's like a smaller compact version of Andrew Golota.

There is absolutely no way Sam Peter misses this guy. And we all know when Sam Peter connects flush it's goodnight.

madpup

09-19-2007, 12:19 PM

Should be an exciting fight.

Zakman

09-19-2007, 12:32 PM

He hasn't gotten knocked down in 5 years because he has faced a string of tomato cans and journeymen en route to fighting Hasim Rahman again. Mind you, Rahman being a guy who is tailor made for Maskaev (slow, questionable chin, bad stamina).

Sam Peter will be the first guy Maskaev fights who is actually fast enough and strong enough to give him problems in well over 5 years. And Sam Peter is nearly impossible to hurt. He had the biggest guy in the division banging on him over 12 rounds with flush right hands and left hooks. Only once in the 12th was he hurt.

Exactly. People who think that because Oleg beat a bunch of nobodies and again knocked out Rahman - who has an even WORSE chin that Maskaev - that he can stand up to the punches of Sam Peter are DELUSIONAL.

Peter is going to DESTROY Maskaev. If Oleg makes it out of the first round, it will be an accomplishment. But he will be gone before the 5th - bet the farm on it. :nod

T.S.

09-19-2007, 12:42 PM

It all depends on whether Peter gets away with punches to the back of the head. If not, then I bet Oleg by late rnd TKO by very same blueprint in win over Rahman in their rematch.

Maybe Peter is over-confident, over-trained (which will be the excuse) and will be over aggressive. Oleg will counter. Fans are under-estimating Oleg's current physical strength and his dedication.
Oleg by late rnd TKO

Hank

09-19-2007, 03:10 PM

We win if it's good fight. I like the matchup, and am glad Maskaev isn't defending against some washed up easy touch. Fans need these match ups in heavy division, glad it's happening. Maskaev, if on top of his game, can win. One mistake though, and he is in trouble. Let's be thankful for this fight.

DamonD

09-19-2007, 03:12 PM

Yes, a good fight is more important than the winner. Rahman-Maskaev II was a good one, Maskaev-Okhello was a snoozer, so let's hope this one lives up to the former fight.

Asterion

09-19-2007, 03:17 PM

Peter by early KO.

brooklyn1550

09-19-2007, 03:21 PM

And in Peter, Oleg is facing the most powerful puncher he's probably EVER gone up against

I wouldn't go that far - David Tua hits harder than Peter in my opinion. But I definitely agree that his chin hasn't gotten better with age - his defense is what has improved.

natep

09-19-2007, 03:29 PM

Sam TKO's Oleg in the second.

Boro chris

09-19-2007, 03:31 PM

OM starts well but I see him tiring down the stretch and getting stopped late.

Boro chris

09-19-2007, 03:37 PM

Exactly. People who think that because Oleg beat a bunch of nobodies and again knocked out Rahman - who has an even WORSE chin that Maskaev - that he can stand up to the punches of Sam Peter are DELUSIONAL.

Peter is going to DESTROY Maskaev. If Oleg makes it out of the first round, it will be an accomplishment. But he will be gone before the 5th - bet the farm on it. :nod

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andyZOR

09-19-2007, 04:03 PM

Maskaev UD 12
Wait a min..... in a diffrent thead you said Sam Peter already has the title around his waist.... With that being said Im sure you thought Peter was going to Destroy him... Now you say Maskaev UD?
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And the fact that you wrote Maskev was number 17 ranked in your top 20 right now, yet he has a belt and at least deserves a top 5, you put Peter in number 2 (with a belt he doesn'town).... Are you seriously that stupid?

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First you underrate Oleg Maskaev( the WBC Champ ) by listing him at 17, and listing Peter at 2, With the WBC tags next to his name.... and now your saying hes going to win? Make up your mind stupid ass. :lol:

brooklyn1550

09-19-2007, 04:25 PM

^^^
Good findings!

Grabonator

09-19-2007, 05:12 PM

Oleg Maskaev has not tasted floor since he got knocked out by Corey "t-rex' Sanders, now people think Sam Peter is the second coming of Tyson because of a padded knock record and that he knocked down Wlad 3 times (2 by rabid Punch's) and that he beat Toney twice (once legitamently) well first off Wlad's been knocked down 11 time's in his career, hell I could knock him down (if I hit him squarely in the nuts!) but really win's over a fat ass former Middleweight are not the sign's of the next great Champ, Maskaev's chin is far better than when he first stated his career , he has learned since his trainer and manager change's how to protect his chin and not to get hit as much, and that is why I see Oleg winning a easy UD over Peter just outboxing him till the end of the fight .

Toney beat Ruiz who was a champion, so moch to you theory that wins over a fat ass former Middleweight are no signs.
BTW Peter will be in great shape and win by KO. If not he also would have the tools to win on points. Maskaev cant win this.

natep

09-19-2007, 05:44 PM

Don't be surprised if Maskaev outboxes Peter for a decision.
Yo, if Klitschko couldn't outbox Sam Peter to an EXTENT (he was knocked down three times yeah, back of the head blah blah don't turn your fucking back to a fighter then or hold him over 90 times) don't expect Oleg Maskaev to.

joe the great

09-19-2007, 06:29 PM

Oleg in an upset.

sst

09-19-2007, 06:40 PM

Peter is going to ANNIHILATE glass-jawed Oleg, and EARLY. This is a guy who was starched by light-hitting Kirk Johnson, arm-punching Lance Whitaker, and the thoroughly mediocre journeyman Corey "T-Rex" Sanders. :patsch

Peter is going to walk right through Maskaev, tap him on the china chin, and it will all be over - QUICKLY!!

Peter KO 1
Peter is the favorate but he has koed no one in the top 30 to date. Duva got caught running off at the mouth and was forced to put his guy in the ring against Klithcko. He got owned. Fact is Peter has beaten no one that matters. To even be getting a title shot of Toney is a joke. 12 rds and no ko against a stiff like Toney does not hold well for his chance of getting a ko against anyone still breathing. The pressure is on Sam if he looses this one and he is done. That being said yes a early ko is Peter's best chance to win in this fight.

anut

09-19-2007, 07:42 PM

Peter Overated......masquev Will Win.

box03

09-19-2007, 07:48 PM

Peter will win in TKO 3rd round, Maskaev has no head movement and is easy to hit a far cry from James toney. Maskaev also tends to want to trade punches with oppenents, which will be a bad idea if he does decide to trade with Peter. There is no reason why Peter shouldnt win this fight.

Goose

09-19-2007, 08:58 PM

Maskaev by KO for his last hurrah before retirement

lenzo

09-19-2007, 09:24 PM

If Peter can keep on the pressure, Oleg may fold. If Peter brings on
a slow pace, I think he gets outboxed.
Mask by UD.

brooklyn1550

09-19-2007, 09:32 PM

Sam Peter fight's like a Amateur and is Over Rated for his last win over Toney , Maskaev will school Peter and win a easy UD.

If Maskaev does win, it's not going to be easy. Nobody has had an "easy" time with Peter.

Shotgun

09-19-2007, 11:39 PM

I'm taking Peter by early KO, but if Maskaev can last 5 or 6 rounds he has a good shot at a UD. Of the 6 fights in Peter's career that have gone past 5, only one has ended in a KO

box03

09-19-2007, 11:43 PM

There is no way in hell Maskaev is going to win, Im almost positive Maskaev will at least go down and probably get knocked out.

Scar

09-20-2007, 01:56 AM

Samuel Peter KO4.

madpup

09-20-2007, 03:23 AM

Yo, if Klitschko couldn't outbox Sam Peter to an EXTENT (he was knocked down three times yeah, back of the head blah blah don't turn your fucking back to a fighter then or hold him over 90 times) don't expect Oleg Maskaev to.

If you saw the fight you would know that Peter's head was used as a punching bag for the whole fight. Peter's tenacity got him 3 knockdowns ( I would argue only 2 were legit), but he got outboxed as badly as anyone can over 12 rounds.

Hrak

09-20-2007, 03:29 AM

Ive watches Maskaev over the years and his weakness is that he cant see wide punches coming, his payed for it time and time again. Well Peter is pretty much exclusive to wide punches so I think his going to win. Ill be rooting for Maskaev though.

lzolnier

09-20-2007, 04:23 AM

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Who's fighting the championship fight here?:gayfight

Amsterdam

09-20-2007, 05:56 AM

Peter KO 1.

Can't believe 30 people picked Maskaev.

Holmes' Jab

09-20-2007, 06:38 AM

Peter, by early-mid round T-kayo. :good

Ambition_Def

09-20-2007, 06:39 AM

Can't believe 30 people picked Maskaev.

Well, Ruskull and Jetski rarely ever go against a white boxer, so that I can understand. But those comments that because James Toney made him miss that Oleg will do the same are crazy.

What people don't understand is that fat ex-middleweight is hard as hell to land on flush. Sam is the only one who has had him rocked so often. And that says alot for a guy who is supposed to be a crude brawler. Oleg has virtually no defense in comparison to Toney. He's gonna get hit flush and knocked cold.

1-Ton

09-20-2007, 08:19 AM

Maskaev TKO 9......thats right.

Ilesey

09-20-2007, 08:21 AM

Peter TKO 9.

Cachibatches

09-20-2007, 08:27 AM

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Chins don't get BETTER with age, they get WORSE. And in Peter, Oleg is facing the most powerful puncher he's probably EVER gone up against. He will be dispatched EARLY, very early.
Some do.

Ali's did.
Joe Louis' arguably.
Larry Holmes had a better chin ever when he fought Mercer.
Remember tommy Hearns standing up to Leonard in that second fight?

Soemtimes a little bit of extra weight helps.

11player

09-20-2007, 10:35 AM

I see this fight as 50-50

It's either Maskaev by UD in 12 or Peter by KO/TKO within 7 rounds.

Superheavyweight

10-17-2007, 05:20 PM

:bbb

Irish Steel

10-17-2007, 05:33 PM

After seeing the last peter fight, Maskeav UD.

Punisher33

10-17-2007, 05:37 PM

Peter will show off his knockout power against Maskaev, after this match you have no choice but to fall in the love Mr. Peter.

Zakman

10-17-2007, 06:42 PM

Peter will show off his knockout power against Maskaev, after this match you have no choice but to fall in the love Mr. Peter.

There's likely to be a lot of bandwaggoneers hoping on the Peter train after he knocks Maskaev cold in a round or two. In boxing, you're only as good as your last fight.

Punisher33

10-17-2007, 06:48 PM

There's likely to be a lot of bandwaggoneers hoping on the Peter train after he knocks Maskaev cold in a round or two. In boxing, you're only as good as your last fight. I have a feeling we will see the prepared and Violent Sam Peter, I think a brutal knockout is in the forecast.:yep