Cotto would Murder Ricky Hatton

[Bazooka]

Seriously, I dont see him going the distance with Cotto, this is being fair he might have some moments in there with Cotto but lemme tell you this Cotto does not allow you to grab him and hold him, it would be suicide for Ricky to dare and fight Cotto, there is no way he could win, not even against Floyd, the only two big names that Ricky has on his resume are against guys who the media stated prior to those fights as being shot, KT and Castillo, Collazo at 147 didnt have any power and he hurt Hatton IMHO he beat Ricky, this is against a fighter who cant punch his way through a wet paper bag, if he steps in there with MC its over.
Hell FMJ would make him look like an amature seriously, if Hattons only style of winning is to throw a shot and clinch he isnt going to beat anybody who has good boxing skills and right now at 147 Mosley Cotto and Mayweather all have good boxing skills and would cut up ricky before the first half of the fight is over.
Chances are Ricky might look good against the lesser skilled top WW such as Margarito but even in that fight I see Margarito knocking out Ricky.
again why are people so hung up on Ricky? when his two big wins are over guys the media says is shot? being that the media is always right as FLoyd fans point out, then Ricky hasnt done nothing yet.

[bladerunner]

i think Cotto stops him with a bodyshot.

[Bazooka]

i think Cotto stops him with a bodyshot.

Yup, either way I dont think that style is going to help Ricky in these fights he needs to have some sort of plan B, He will never beat FMJ I am saying this right now that fight would look like Jones Ruiz all over again

[Jack]

again why are people so hung up on Ricky? when his two big wins are over guys the media says is shot? being that the media is always right as FLoyd fans point out, then Ricky hasnt done nothing yet.Since when are the media always right? That's absolue bollocks and not worth me making a counter argument against.

And despite the Castillo fight being one sided ni the end, the better was close than a lot of easy wins. Not many people thought Hatton would win easily, I'll tell you that. Read through some of the threads prior to the fight. The general consensus is that Hatton would win, but it'd be a very close fight. A fair few of the more experianced posters on here thought Castillo would nick it, even some in the classic forum.

If Castillo was shot, that wouldn't be the case.

And Tszyu was ranked #3 by The Ring. betting fabvourite by every bookmaker and the pick by all experts. Don't give me that bullshit about people knowing he was shot. It's fucking wrong!

Fair enough if you don't like Hatton, but coming out with biased shit like this post makes you seem incredibly bitter. Tszyu was shot and the media never lie? What the fuck are you on?

[Shotgun]

The "shot" Tszyu that Hatton beat would've stopped Cotto. You can take that one to the bank :hey

[Bazooka]

Since when are the media always right? That's absolue bollocks and not worth me making a counter argument against.

And despite the Castillo fight being one sided ni the end, the better was close than a lot of easy wins. Not many people thought Hatton would win easily, I'll tell you that. Read through some of the threads prior to the fight. The general consensus is that Hatton would win, but it'd be a very close fight. A fair few of the more experianced posters on here thought Castillo would nick it, even some in the classic forum.

If Castillo was shot, that wouldn't be the case.

And Tszyu was ranked #3 by The Ring. betting fabvourite by every bookmaker and the pick by all experts. Don't give me that bullshit about people knowing he was shot. It's fucking wrong!

Fair enough if you don't like Hatton, but coming out with biased shit like this post makes you seem incredibly bitter. Tszyu was shot and the media never lie? What the fuck are you on?
The media is always right when a fan on the forum questions FMJ or any other fighter so why isnt the media right here?

[Relentless]

The "shot" Tszyu that Hatton beat would've stopped Cotto. You can take that one to the bank :hey

quintana probably could have beat hatton, now you can take that to the brothel.

[Bazooka]

Cotto will murder Ricky end of story

[Shotgun]

quintana probably could have beat hatton, now you can take that to the brothel.

The "shot" Tszyu that Hatton beat is better, by far, than anyone that Cotto's ever fought, and would beat Cotto head to head. How about that?

[Relentless]

The "shot" Tszyu that Hatton beat is better, by far, than anyone that Cotto's ever fought, and would beat Cotto head to head. How about that?

cotto will kick tszyu's ass worse than vince philip.

who is tszyu's best win anyway??? sharmba mitchell zab judah??? been there done that.

[A-50]

The "shot" Tszyu that Hatton beat would've stopped Cotto. You can take that one to the bank :hey


I agree with this also.

[Shotgun]

cotto will kick tszyu's ass worse than vince philip.

who is tszyu's best win anyway??? sharmba mitchell zab judah??? been there done that.

Funny, it took Tszyu one punch to do to Zab what it took Cotto 11 rounds of sustained punishment to do

You Cotto fans are hilarious, bagging on Hatton's competition when Cotto's best win came against someone Tszyu zapped with a single shot in all of two rounds

[MSTR]

The "shot" Tszyu that Hatton beat is better, by far, than anyone that Cotto's ever fought, and would beat Cotto head to head. How about that?
Styles make fights though. Ricky matched up very well to KT to beat him, and utilised a very effective game plan. Doesn't mean he would beat Cotto by any stretch. Totally different fighters. I think that Cotto would fight very smart against Hatton, would put on his boxing shoes, counter him on the way in, and keep his guard tight to prevent Hatton from tying him up. Still it would be a tough close fight either way.

[Relentless]

Funny, it took Tszyu one punch to do to Zab what it took Cotto 11 rounds of sustained punishment to do

You Cotto fans are hilarious, bagging on Hatton's competition when Cotto's best win came against someone Tszyu zapped with a single shot in all of two rounds

why dont you ask zab in which fight he got hurt the most???

cotto's destruction or the one punch which made him dizzy?

if vince phillip can do it so can tszyu, like i said before the best fighters tszyu beat were mitchell and judah, and cotto already beat one of them.

[younghov2k4]

i agree with Bazooka.

Hatton looked good against a smaller slower fight last night but it would be a whole different world against Cotto.

Cotto by stoppage in the mid rounds.

[Relentless]

You Cotto fans are hilarious, bagging on Hatton's competition when Cotto's best win came against someone Tszyu zapped with a single shot in all of two rounds

dont forget judah was tszyu's best win aswell.

[MSTR]

Funny, it took Tszyu one punch to do to Zab what it took Cotto 11 rounds of sustained punishment to do

You Cotto fans are hilarious, bagging on Hatton's competition when Cotto's best win came against someone Tszyu zapped with a single shot in all of two rounds
Have seen you post this on multiple threads and frankly it is garbage. KT had lost the first, applied pressure and caught him with an excellent punch. The way Cotto beat him was more impressive because he beat him down round after round. No one has ever done that to Zab before. Mayweather in comparison went neck and neck. Zab showed up ready for the fight of his life, and showed great heart, and was still absolutely punished.

[Archie_Moore]

why dont you ask zab in which fight he got hurt the most???

cotto's destruction or the one punch which made him dizzy?

if vince phillip can do it so can tszyu, like i said before the best fighters tszyu beat were mitchell and judah, and cotto already beat one of them.

OF course Zab sustained more punishment in the Cotto fight because that fight went 11 rounds. Tszyu just embarrassed him like no other. In 5 years they will still talk about what Tszyu did to Zab, not what Cotto did to him. :good :yep

Cotto couldn't do to Zab what Tszyu did because regardless of how hard Cotto hits he has nothing on Tszyu's power.

oh and for the record based on your logic if Ricardo Torres did what he did to Cotto (or the light hitting Corley for that matter:smoke ) WTF do you think Tszyu would have done. :deal :hi: :bbb

[Archie_Moore]

Have seen you post this on multiple threads and frankly it is garbage. KT had lost the first, applied pressure and caught him with an excellent punch. The way Cotto beat him was more impressive because he beat him down round after round. No one has ever done that to Zab before. Mayweather in comparison went neck and neck. Zab showed up ready for the fight of his life, and showed great heart, and was still absolutely punished.

you are kidding yourself if you think the way Cotto beat Zab was better.

Tszyu took on the best Zab Judah (undefeated) when he didn't know the meaning of losing, and destroyed him in 2 rounds. End of story. :good

[TIGEREDGE]

Hatton Would Of Beat Cotto At 140. Cotto Would Of Won A 147

[MSTR]

Castillo is a good win for hatton, but he still was expected by most to take this one out, and Castillo had appeared to be on the decline and has been in a lot of wars. Cotto has been very impressive in knocking out his opposition consistently, where as Ricky has looked average in recent times going the distance with fighters you would expect him to dominate.

[Relentless]

OF course Zab sustained more punishment in the Cotto fight because that fight went 11 rounds. Tszyu just embarrassed him like no other. In 5 years they will still talk about what Tszyu did to Zab, not what Cotto did to him. :good :yep

Cotto couldn't do to Zab what Tszyu did because regardless of how hard Cotto hits he has nothing on Tszyu's power.

oh and for the record based on your logic if Ricardo Torres did what he did to Cotto (or the light hitting Corley for that matter:smoke ) WTF do you think Tszyu would have done. :deal :hi: :bbb
excuse me it was not my logic, i was just countering to the 'if ricky hatton could beat tszyu who ko'd judah imagine what he would do to cotto'

and for the record cotto won those fights he was in trouble in unlike kostya

people still remember the fernando vargas beating do they not???
thats the same type of beatin judah received

in 5 years people might remember kostya's ko but what does that have to do with anything?? that does not mean it was the worst beating zab received just because people remember it.

people remember alot of events.

and puleez stop using emoticons its obvious you are using them to hide your insecurities.

boo hoo hoo.......

[sarah ross]

Cotto and Castillo were both pound for pound top 10 at the time of thier

losses to Hatton. Cotto beat a guy who has not won a fight in 2 years and

all of a sudden he is Sugar Ray Robinson. I like Cotto but if you think he hits

Hatton with a couple body shots and the fight is all but over you are crazy.

Cotto has never been in the ring with anything like Hatton. Hatton would be

by far the hardest puncher Cotto has ever faced, he is also much quicker

than Cotto. Hatton ate shots from Tszyu and Castillo and will make Cotto

fight backing up. Cotto is a beast but is very methodical and slow on the

inside, Hatton will carve him up will his combonations and movement. Cotto

is a one handed fighter because of his square fighting stance. Hatton by

late stoppage. Cotto went from being under rated to over rated in 10 rounds.

[Relentless]

Cotto and Castillo were both pound for pound top 10 at the time of thier

losses to Hatton. Cotto beat a guy who has not won a fight in 2 years and

all of a sudden he is Sugar Ray Robinson. I like Cotto but if you think he hits

Hatton with a couple body shots and the fight is all but over you are crazy.

Cotto has never been in the ring with anything like Hatton. Hatton would be

by far the hardest puncher Cotto has ever faced, he is also much quicker

than Cotto. Hatton ate shots from Tszyu and Castillo and will make Cotto

fight backing up. Cotto is a beast but is very methodical and slow on the

inside, Hatton will carve him up will his combonations and movement. Cotto

is a one handed fighter because of his square fighting stance. Hatton by

late stoppage. Cotto went from being under rated to over rated in 10 rounds.

i think that had something to do with being banned.....

[MSTR]

you are kidding yourself if you think the way Cotto beat Zab was better.

Tszyu took on the best Zab Judah (undefeated) when he was at his best, and destroyed him in 2 rounds. End of story. :good
KT landed a great shot, where as Cotto showed that he is all round the superior fighter. A lot of question marks where apparent after KT won as to what would have happened had Zab continued, or had he not been caught with the one big punch. KT certainly seemed to be troubled up until that point. No questions were there after what Cotto did. It was a dominant performance. IMO more so then what KT did, although it is matter of personal opinion. On paper KT's victory would appear the more decisive, but IMO Cotto's proved more by beating him round after round

[Archie_Moore]

excuse me it was not my logic, i was just countering to the 'if ricky hatton could beat tszyu who ko'd judah imagine what he would do to cotto'

and for the record cotto won those fights he was in trouble in unlike kostya

people still remember the fernando vargas beating do they not???
thats the same type of beatin judah received

in 5 years people might remember kostya's ko but what does that have to do with anything?? that does not mean it was the worst beatind zab received just because people remember it.

people remember alot of events.

So what if he won those fights, Tszyu never got rocked by a fighter who hit like Corley, and Cotto was rocked bad. If you are going to talk about Tszyu getting hurt by Phillips then you have to use that same logic for your fighter. Can't go one way.

Something you guys never realize, it's not the loss that matters its how you come back from a bad loss that shows a real champion. Boxing fans have such a big hard-on for undefeated records these days. :good


Zabs KO loss to Tszyu is still remembered a one of the best KOs ever. That tells you everything you need to know.

[Archie_Moore]

KT landed a great shot, where as Cotto showed that he is all round the superior fighter. A lot of question marks where apparent after KT won as to what would have happened had Zab continued, or had he not been caught with the one big punch. KT certainly seemed to be troubled up until that point. No questions were there after what Cotto did. It was a dominant performance. IMO more so then what KT did, although it is matter of personal opinion. On paper KT's victory would appear the more decisive, but IMO Cotto's proved more by beating him round after round

Tszyu was troubled for one round and then came out in the second round and dominated. It wasn't just a great shot, Tszyu was clearly winning the second round and made the neccessary adjustments against Zab. The first flush shot by Tszyu would have ended the fight, whether it be in the second round or 3rd. It was going to happen and happen early. :good

[MSTR]

Cotto and Castillo were both pound for pound top 10 at the time of thier

losses to Hatton. Cotto beat a guy who has not won a fight in 2 years and

all of a sudden he is Sugar Ray Robinson. I like Cotto but if you think he hits

Hatton with a couple body shots and the fight is all but over you are crazy.

Cotto has never been in the ring with anything like Hatton. Hatton would be

by far the hardest puncher Cotto has ever faced, he is also much quicker

than Cotto. Hatton ate shots from Tszyu and Castillo and will make Cotto

fight backing up. Cotto is a beast but is very methodical and slow on the

inside, Hatton will carve him up will his combonations and movement. Cotto

is a one handed fighter because of his square fighting stance. Hatton by

late stoppage. Cotto went from being under rated to over rated in 10 rounds.
This post is so biased it is not funny. Hatton would not be the hardest puncher he has been in with. Torres, Quintana even Judah are harder punchers then Hatton. Hatton has one of the worst KO ratios in boxing among elite fighters. You talk about square stance, but Hatton squares his stance up constantly in close quarters. You don't know what you are talking about. To compare KT to Cotto is silly because they are different fighters.

[Shotgun]

i think that had something to do with being banned.....

Also had something to do with him losing and getting badly rocked by a light punching journeyman like Baldomir

[Shotgun]

Torres, Quintana even Judah are harder punchers then Hatton. Hatton has one of the worst KO ratios in boxing among elite fighters
Torres :lol:

Look at the guys he's KO'd then come on back and tell me who they even are. Then watch Hatton's KO's of Maussa and Castillo then come back and tell me those guys hit harder than him

[psychopath]

Cotto would Murder Ricky Hatton

:think :think :think

Depending on what weight they will fight.

At 140 a good fight which can go eitherway. But Hatton will have the upperhand.

At 147 Cotto beats up Hatton.

:yep :yep :yep

[MSTR]

Tszyu was troubled for one round and then came out in the second round and dominated. It wasn't just a great shot, Tszyu was clearly winning the second round and made the neccessary adjustments against Zab. The first flush shot by Tszyu would have ended the fight, whether it be in the second round or 3rd. It was going to happen and happen early. :good
Thats ridiculous. KT had hardly landed anything in the second it was a very slow round from both fighters. He had applied pressure but had failed to be effective with it, yet was winning the round due to Zabs inactivity. You say the first punch was bound to KO him, but how often do you ever see a 1 punch KO in the 140 pound division. UNHEARD OF. It was just an excellent punch. I personally think the pressure of KT would have got to Zab in the end, but I don't think it would have been as dominate as what Cotto did. Cotto dominated a guy who had been in there with boxings elite, and took round after round off him like no one has ever done before.

[Mrboogie23]

Cotto tears Hatton apart at 147, at 140 I think it would be a good fight.

[Arthur]

quintana probably could have beat hattonl.

Posts that stupid should be outlawed by interpol...you should be on a chain gang right now.

[Antwuan Maxx]

So what if he won those fights, Tszyu never got rocked by a fighter who hit like Corley, and Cotto was rocked bad. If you are going to talk about Tszyu getting hurt by Phillips then you have to use that same logic for your fighter. Can't go one way.

Something you guys never realize, it's not the loss that matters its how you come back from a bad loss that shows a real champion. Boxing fans have such a big hard-on for undefeated records these days. :good


Zabs KO loss to Tszyu is still remembered a one of the best KOs ever. That tells you everything you need to know.

Never seen Tszyu-Urkal, I suppose?

[Shotgun]

Never seen Tszyu-Urkal, I suppose?

Come on, it's not even comparable. Cotto was out on his feet against Corley, stumbling like a drunk all across the ring and hanging on for dear life, from one punch. Against a decent finisher, Cotto would've never made it out of that round

[Archie_Moore]

Thats ridiculous. KT had hardly landed anything in the second it was a very slow round from both fighters. He had applied pressure but had failed to be effective with it, yet was winning the round due to Zabs inactivity. You say the first punch was bound to KO him, but how often do you ever see a 1 punch KO in the 140 pound division. UNHEARD OF. It was just an excellent punch. I personally think the pressure of KT would have got to Zab in the end, but I don't think it would have been as dominate as what Cotto did. Cotto dominated a guy who had been in there with boxings elite, and took round after round off him like no one has ever done before.

:lol: You need to watch the video. "This round is Kostya Tszyu's Clearly... evening things up." BOOM Zab is out.

So what would you rather happen to do. Get Koed in the 11th, after being competetive in the early rounds and hurting your opponent twice.

Or being destroyed in 2 rounds, and made to do the chicken dance?

That will tell you what domination is my friend. :good

[Archie_Moore]

Come on, it's not even comparable. Cotto was out on his feet against Corley, stumbling like a drunk all across the ring and hanging on for dear life, from one punch. Against a decent finisher, Cotto would've never made it out of that round

:good Thank you!!

[Antwuan Maxx]

Come on, it's not even comparable. Cotto was out on his feet against Corley, stumbling like a drunk all across the ring and hanging on for dear life, from one punch. Against a decent finisher, Cotto would've never made it out of that round

That's like me saying if Collazo was a finisher/puncher Hatton would have been KO'd, or hell...if Cotto didn't dry himself off making weight, he wouldn't have been hurt by Corley.

Fact of the matter is, your boy said Tszyu had never been rocked by a fighter like Corley, when in fact he had been (albeit less serious than Cotto.) Not to mention on the wrong end of a fight named Upset of the Year after being beat from pillar to post by a crackhead and barely making it out of the first round against Hurtado. All of this, in his supposed prime. While Cotto just happens to have problems taking punches once he begins struggling to make the weight.

[Archie_Moore]

That's like me saying if Collazo was a finisher/puncher Hatton would have been KO'd, or hell...if Cotto didn't dry himself off making weight, he wouldn't have been hurt by Corley.

Fact of the matter is, your boy said Tszyu had never been rocked by a fighter like Corley, when in fact he had been (albeit less serious than Cotto.) Not to mention on the wrong end of a fight named Upset of the Year after being beat from pillar to post by a crackhead and barely making it out of the first round against Hurtado. All of this, in his supposed prime. While Cotto just happens to have problems taking punches once he begins struggling to make the weight.

Now you're trying to play some bullshit. Tszyu was not hurt like Cotto was, Cotto's whole life was flashing before his eyes. There indeed is a big difference.

[Jinx]

right now Cotto would destroy Hatton in the most brutal way...now back when they were both at 140, i would've favored Hatton slightly, but now Cotto is a wrecking machine at 147...Cotto would rip him a new one...

[Pimp C]

Cotto beats the dog shit out of Sticky Ricky.

[Antwuan Maxx]

Now you're trying to play some bullshit. Tszyu was not hurt like Cotto was, Cotto's whole life was flashing before his eyes. There indeed is a big difference.

Yeah, the big difference being Cotto was severely weight drained.

[Archie_Moore]

Yeah, the big difference being Cotto was severely weight drained.

Being weight drained is no more an excuse then saying you couldn't see someones punches coming. :D

Body shots would make the biggest difference if you are weight drained, not the chin punches Cotto could barely take against Corely...

[Kostello]

I don't even post on here that much... but I read a lot. Cotto will straight up beat Ricky Hatton down. Ricky doesn't have the will that Cotto has. He'll try to break Cotto and find out... SHYT! it didn't work, I'm tired as hell... Cotto would damage his entire career in the later rounds.

Zab will never be a top fighter again either. Just like Mike after people saw people beat him.

[Antwuan Maxx]

Being weight drained is no more an excuse then saying you couldn't see someones punches coming. :D

Body shots would make the biggest difference if you are weight drained, not the chin punches Cotto could barely take against Corely...

Bullshit. You're talking out the ass. If it Cotto couldn't take shots from Corley, how the hell do you explain him walking though everything Maussa, Bailey, and Pinto hit him with to no effect. By the way, it wasn't "chin punches" that hurt Cotto, it was a shot to the temple.

What's Hatton's excuse for nearly getting stopped by Collazo?

[Archie_Moore]

Bullshit. You're talking out the ass. If it Cotto couldn't take shots from Corley, how the hell do you explain him walking though everything Maussa, Bailey, and Pinto hit him with to no effect. By the way, it wasn't "chin punches" that hurt Cotto, it was a shot to the temple.

What's Hatton's excuse for nearly getting stopped by Collazo?

I'm much more of a Cotto fan then Hatton fan. :good

Either way, weight drain is no excuse for almost dying against Corely.

[Antwuan Maxx]

I'm much more of a Cotto fan then Hatton fan. :good

Either way, weight drain is no excuse for almost dying against Corely.

So you honestly believe weight drain doesn't effect a fighter's durability? :patsch

[Archie_Moore]

So you honestly believe weight drain doesn't effect a fighter's durability? :patsch

I said its not a valid excuse. It makes as much sense as not being able to see your opponents punches.

No one forces a fighter to make weight, so take the responsiblity that comes with it. :good

Simple as that.

[Antwuan Maxx]

I said its not a valid excuse. It makes as much sense as not being able to see your opponents punches.

No one forces a fighter to make weight, so take the responsiblity that comes with it. :good

Simple as that.

Either way, the fact is he needed three attempts to make the weight, looking like a fucking corpse in the process. And for the first time in his career, he gets rocked by someone who's not a big puncher. It's common sense...the weight drain is what did him in, rather than Corley's power. True enough, no one forced him to fight at that weight. But he did, and paid for it as a result. It's obvious cutting down to 140 effects him big time, and that is the very reason why so many overwhelmingly favor him to beat Hatton at 147, yet at 140 it becomes a pick em fight.

But it's whatever.

[the_what]

Neither fighter is murdering anyone. These guys will fight in a bloody, brutal fight. Both fighters will not be the same after the war.

[sarah ross]

This post is so biased it is not funny. Hatton would not be the hardest puncher he has been in with. Torres, Quintana even Judah are harder punchers then Hatton. Hatton has one of the worst KO ratios in boxing among elite fighters. You talk about square stance, but Hatton squares his stance up constantly in close quarters. You don't know what you are talking about. To compare KT to Cotto is silly because they are different fighters.

You think thease three bums could ko Tszyu and Castillo, you are insane.

Cotto has a better KO rate because he has fought all of the cab drivers from

Isbekizstan and Columbia. Torres, Judah and the great Chop Chop Corley had

Cotto dancing all over the ring. I love Cotto but if Tszyu hit him on his china

chin its lights out. Hatton has walked through Tszyu, Castillo and Urgango

(who is a monster). Cotto has a great will with a glass jaw, will only takes

you so far when you really get cracked.

[DatBo215]

Bruce Trampler, Top Rank's longtime matchmaker: HBO.com

Judah would not have been Cotto's most dangerous foe to date had Trampler found a way to get Ricky Hatton into the ring. Trampler revealed for the first time that Top Rank had been trying to make a Hatton-Cotto fight happen at junior welterweight.

"For the last two years, Cotto has been willing to fight Floyd Mayweather and Ricky Hatton at what ever weight," Trampler said. "Get this straight: Cotto ducks nobody. Here's a scoop for you: there were numerous discussions with the Hatton people, but Ricky went up to 147 and then came back down. Miguel is staying at welterweight. But Hatton knows where to find Cotto when he wants to get it on. Floyd is the most skilled boxer in the world, an immensely talented athlete, but he won't beat Miguel Cotto."


Cotto beats hatton at 140 or 147, but it will never happen. Hatton doesn't want any parts of it.

[Archie_Moore]

Either way, the fact is he needed three attempts to make the weight, looking like a fucking corpse in the process. And for the first time in his career, he gets rocked by someone who's not a big puncher. It's common sense...the weight drain is what did him in, rather than Corley's power. True enough, no one forced him to fight at that weight. But he did, and paid for it as a result. It's obvious cutting down to 140 effects him big time, and that is the very reason why so many overwhelmingly favor him to beat Hatton at 147, yet at 140 it becomes a pick em fight.

But it's whatever.

Whether the weight drain effected him or not. It still remains no excuse.

[Antwuan Maxx]

You think thease three bums could ko Tszyu and Castillo, you are insane.

Cotto has a better KO rate because he has fought all of the cab drivers from

Isbekizstan and Columbia. Torres, Judah and the great Chop Chop Corley had

Cotto dancing all over the ring. I love Cotto but if Tszyu hit him on his china

chin its lights out. Hatton has walked through Tszyu, Castillo and Urgango

(who is a monster). Cotto has a great will with a glass jaw, will only takes

you so far when you really get cracked.

:rofl The only win on Hatton's resume worth mentioning is Tszyu, which I admit..is a better win than anything Cotto has done so far. Castillo was a shot fighter. That win is no better than Cotto's over Judah, Quintana, or Malignaggi. The only difference is, Castillo has a bigger name than any of those cats, despite being a clearly faded fighter. Urango? Come on now. Pretty funny when you think about it. Ricky Hatton turned pro in 1997, 4 years before Cotto. Yet, there isn't much seperating their resumes.

[David UK]

Yawn. This is getting so boring. They'll always be an excuse or another fighter that will murder Hatton. Same old discredited arguments veing recycled, this time using Cotto as the man to do the job

[Shotgun]

Yawn. This is getting so boring. They'll always be an excuse or another fighter that will murder Hatton. Same old discredited arguments veing recycled, this time using Cotto as the man to do the job
Exactly, we've already heard that Hatton wouldn't last 3 rounds against Tszyu, Hatton can't handle body shots so he'll get stopped by Castillo, now it's Cotto that's going to kill him. Hatton when he's up for a big fight will be tough for anyone at 140 or 147, Cotto is definitely more suited for moving up in weight than Hatton just based on styles but saying Cotto is going to smash Hatton without trouble, given that Hatton's beaten a pair of guys every bit as good as Cotto, is a joke

[myk]

Cotto by KO

[Druid]

I think Cotto wins this easily or...hard, it doesn't matter Cotto will win. I think hatton is a good lad but his fight style is boring and he would be worn down by Cotto.

Cotto's weight drain making him more vulnerable is a valid thing to discuss, sometimes things are facts and not excuses.

Let's just hope this fight is made!

[smokey]

Hatton would knock Cotto out before the 9th round.

I'd like to have that proven. I'm not saying it's not possible... I just think it's a long shot. Hatton commented that feather fisted Collazo had "heavy hands" and was visibly stunned at points in the fight. I think Cotto's power would just be too much.

Cotto is a plodder who wouldn't confuse Hatton like Collazo did. His primary left hook could be nullified by Hatton's grappling, like Hatton did to Tszyu..... Like I said, I can see a scenario where he beats him in a VERY tough, grueling fight. I just think the more likely result is Hatton getting pushed around and brutalized by the larger, stronger man.

[Carlos Primera]

cotto by ko if it happens at 147

hatton takes it at 140

[albaneze]

Hatton would knock Cotto out before the 9th round.
You know they say that nothing is impossible, sorry mate but with the Cotto i have seen against Judah, Hatton doesnt have too many chances.

I will give mine for Cotto, by KO, hmmm i dont think its gonna be a body shot, or maybe it will. Cottos body shots are stronger than Ricky's.

[BoppaZoo]

147 Cotto would finish Hatton early.

140 Cotto would still win because the Hatton ive seen of late isnt as devasting as Cotto is.

[CarltonBlues]

Hatton, he's faster and tougher.

[joito3]

what makes anyone think hatton has a chance against Cotto ?

[smokey]

what makes anyone think hatton has a chance against Cotto ?

It's called being a fanboi :p

You see it after any fan favorite fighter has a win. It's like that old SNL sketch with the Chicago Bears fans. "Who would win with The Bears vs God?"; "Is Ditka coaching?"; "Yeah"; "Definitely da' Bears"

[BoppaZoo]

It's called being a fanboi :p

You see it after any fan favorite fighter has a win. It's like that old SNL sketch with the Chicago Bears fans. "Who would win with The Bears vs God?"; "Is Ditka coaching?"; "Yeah"; "Definitely da' Bears"hey smokey i just wanted to say.

its a league game smokey mark it 0.

:lol:

[Muskyrat]

Think Cotto would win this one too but not as easily as some of you seem to think. Be a good fight though - plenty of action.

[Relentless]

the posted archie moore has never stepped in the ring, he doesn't know shit about being hit while dehydrated.

you say it doesn't matter how he lost but the way he came back as a great champ, but didn't miguel cotto also come back after getting rocked, or did he quit on his stool?

you guys bring out hattons record as an excuse, from the 43 people he beat the only names mentioning are tszyu and castillo, who are all the other guys???

[Decebal]

Cotto would lose if Hatton is allowed to implement the strategy that he used against Castillo...

[Relentless]

cotto can never make 140 again no matter what anyone says, thats like asking mosley or de la hoya to go down to 140, cotto has some trouble making 147.

[Chiko_Tech]

Funny, it took Tszyu one punch to do to Zab what it took Cotto 11 rounds of sustained punishment to do

You Cotto fans are hilarious, bagging on Hatton's competition when Cotto's best win came against someone Tszyu zapped with a single shot in all of two rounds

The problem maybe the shot that hatton took would ko Cotto, but Hatton dosen't have that kind of punch, and if Torres and Judah could not ko Cotto Ricky Hatton neither. Cotto by UD or late round stoppage.

[PH|LLA]

they're not in the same weightclass.

Hatton is 5'6" and a 140lb fighter.

At 140 Hatton would have a good chance of beating Cotto or Mayweather or anyone for that matter.

At 147 he is too small and looses his strength advantage which is essential for his style

[grayggr]

I love it. Hatton would get KO'd by Cotto.

Other than the Collazo fight when he nearly (but didn't) go down in the final round of a gruelling 12 round fight (his first at the bigger weight), when has Hatton ever looked like being KO'd. I have seen the majority of Hatton's fights and to say that he'd get KO'd is simply disrespectful. He has a granite chin and knows how to survive when in trouble a la Collazo. He walked through the biggest right hand the light-welter division had seen for some time (in Kostya) and made a man at the top of the p4p rankings quit on his stool.

The fact that some of you dont like Hatton's style clouds over the fact he is excellent with it and a supremely talented boxer.

Hatton and Cotto's height and reach are pretty similar and the fight could be made at either weight. It would be very close either way but please dont insult peoples intelligence by predicting a KO for Cotto, there is simply no evidence to back that up. Moreover Cotto has clearly been hurt in several fights and bearing in mind Hatton became the first person to KO Castillo in 60+ fights (when allegedly Castillo's power would be too much for Hatton???) surely it would make more sense that Hatton would be carrying more of a threat of a KO when on his A game.

And Hatton having a bad KO ratio of elite fighters?????

Floyd Pretty Boy 38 wins 24 coming by way of KO
Ronald Winky Wright 51 wins 25 coming by way of KO
Joe Calzaghe 43 wins 32 coming by of KO
Manny Pac Man Pacquiao 44 wins 35 coming by way of KO
Sugar Shane 44 wins 37 by way of KO
Juan Diaz 32 wins 16 by way of KO
Jean Marc Mormeck 33 wins 22 by way of KO
Miguel Cotto 30 wins 25 by KO

Ricky Hatton 43 wins 31 by KO

Relatively speaking it doesn't look too bad, only need to look at the No 1 and 2 p4p'ers.

Considering Hatton is a more noted body puncher than head KO specialist I think 31 out of 43 is quite decent to be honest.

Doesn't seem that bad a record to me??

[Pimp C]

I'm sure Cotto will enjoy slamming that hard left jab he used to shut Zab's right eye alot on the tissue paper face Grappler. He'll repeatedly hit him with it. Cotto has more skills and overall talent, throws in furious combinations to head and body to whatever area of the body is open to, not 1 punch and dry hump like the Grappler, he has much more weapons and isn't the 1 dimensional runt like the Grappler, Cotto actually uses a jab. When he tries to do that grappling act, anyone doubting his strength, he'll pick up the Grappler on his shoulder and body slam him just the same way he literally picked up Urkal on his shoulder. In close, Cotto throws nice combinations to the body, head and uppercuts up the middle and hits every part of the arms, shoulders, head and body. HE FIGHTS for FULL 3 MINUTES. The Grappler doesn't want to fight 3 full minutes, he's afraid to get hit. Where's his guts? We'll see if the Grappler wants to do any of that instead of his attempts to have sex with men in the middle of the ring with his dry humping. Punch and hump, punch and hump should be his nickname. The few uppercuts the finished Castillo was landing continually inside would be nothing compared to what Cotto would hit him with.

The man has an iron will and the stone cold ice demeanor, that's someone these tactics will anger and he'll be more ferocious. Look at his icy stare, he enjoys what he does in there and that's hurt people, he shows no emotion. If Collazo stunned him badly, Cotto wouldn't let him loose. I want to see the Grappler go from 140 to 147 and KO full fledged Welterweights. I want to see him KO a Welterweight at his first fight with a bodyshot that made the opponent cry and then torture him afterwards, making his face looked beaten. I want to see him destroy a fighter's shoulder, blow up an opponents eye, break an opponent's eye socket and jaw, I want to see him shut someone's eye closed..Not run scared after getting a gift. He didn't like Collazo's left handedness and it was his own fault for allowing it to end up the way it did. I want to see him deal when Cotto turns lefty, I want to see what he does when he goes into a corner and gets hit with 4 fast straight left hands the way Cotto unleased on Judah in the corner, he knocked him into the corner and unloaded. I want to see the Grappler handle that.....I want to see him fight full 12 furious rounds and test his stamina because Cotto can go full 12 hard..when I say furious I mean punches not punch and hump and grappling....I know it won't happen though. Stay where you are, or you'll be sorry.
Excellent post. Cotto rapes Hatton.

[scurlaruntings]

The "shot" Tszyu that Hatton beat is better, by far, than anyone that Cotto's ever fought, and would beat Cotto head to head. How about that?God this forum gets more infuriating by the day.All you newbies to the sport bleat on again and again about Hattons infamous clinch fest and cling to it as some sort of saving grace for your boy.Tsyzu was shot FACT.He has fought since.He was good as semi retired when he fought.None the less it was a great scalp for Hatton.But dont get it twisted it wasnt a vintage performance of pugilism.It was a foul filled and torrid affair with Hatton executing a brutal game plan.

Dont try and compare Tsyzu to ANY of Cotto`s opponents as its not even close.STYLES MAKES FIGHTS ROOKIE.YOU MIGHT WANNA STOCK UP ON YOUR BOXING LIBARY AND NOT MAKE STUPID POSTS LIKE A CASUAL ARM CHAIR FAN WOULD.

[Relentless]

quintana probably could have beat hatton, now you can take that to the brothel.

let me change that.


quintana CAN beat hatton.

[Relentless]

Posts that stupid should be outlawed by interpol...you should be on a chain gang right now.

:hi:

[Carlos Primera]

Cotto and Castillo were both pound for pound top 10 at the time of thier

losses to Hatton. Cotto beat a guy who has not won a fight in 2 years and

all of a sudden he is Sugar Ray Robinson. I like Cotto but if you think he hits

Hatton with a couple body shots and the fight is all but over you are crazy.

Cotto has never been in the ring with anything like Hatton. Hatton would be

by far the hardest puncher Cotto has ever faced, he is also much quicker

than Cotto. Hatton ate shots from Tszyu and Castillo and will make Cotto

fight backing up. Cotto is a beast but is very methodical and slow on the

inside, Hatton will carve him up will his combonations and movement. Cotto

is a one handed fighter because of his square fighting stance. Hatton by

late stoppage. Cotto went from being under rated to over rated in 10 rounds.
:rofl
hatton could have (though i doubt it now) beaten a dehydrated cotto at 140, but cotto destroys him in brutal fashion at 147 probably even 140.

[JonOli]

The only way I think Hatton gets to fight Floyd again is if he beats Cotto.

[Relentless]

Who has cotto beat then ? a shot zab and mosley ? wow big deal people need to get a grip how can you judge a fighter truly until he meets great fighters
let's judge cotto when he beats a prime fighter ?
Cotto will be exposed you heard it here first great fighter yes world beater and atg no :deal

the only one at welterweight that can beat cotto is floyd, no one else, williams got his ass handed by a guy cotto beat around the ring like a red headed step child.

but anyways it doesn't matter who cotto has beaten, he still MURDERS haton no matter what.

[warrior85]

cotto at 147
hatton at 140

[boxmich]

I don't think it's an easy fight to call.

People tend to ride and emotional rollercoaster with fighters. The idea that "you are only as good as your last fight" definitely seems true. In his last fight, Ricky was KOed by Floyd. In his last fight, Cotto decisioned Sugar Shane.

I'm not so sure that had Ricky and Miguel traded opponents in these two fights that results wouldv'e been much different for Floyd and Sugar Shane.

Floyd's in a class by himself and I think that he would dominate Cotto; he would likely win by wide decision, but he might even knock him out. Cotto showed that he could be hurt in his fight with Ricardo Torres. Torres has more power than Floyd, but Floyd can land so many punches that he can wear even very tough people down.

That whole discussion about Castillo and Tszyu being shot is funny. Just a few years ago after losses to Winky Wright and unimpressive victories over David Estrada and Jose Luis Cruz people were calling Shane shot. I remember watching the Eastside boxing chats to the Wright fights and the consensus was that Shane was shot. He wasn't.

I do have to say that Cotto has faired better at Welterweight than Hatton has faired, but after seeing Ricky manhandle Tszyu and Castillo, I wouldn't rule out the possibility that he could hurt Miguel. Ricky has very good defensive skills; I think better than Miguel's.

I say it's a coin toss.

[Relentless]

I don't think it's an easy fight to call.

People tend to ride and emotional rollercoaster with fighters. The idea that "you are only as good as your last fight" definitely seems true. In his last fight, Ricky was KOed by Floyd. In his last fight, Cotto decisioned Sugar Shane.

I'm not so sure that had Ricky and Miguel traded opponents in these two fights that results wouldv'e been much different for Floyd and Sugar Shane.

Floyd's in a class by himself and I think that he would dominate Cotto; he would likely win by wide decision, but he might even knock him out. Cotto showed that he could be hurt in his fight with Ricardo Torres. Torres has more power than Floyd, but Floyd can land so many punches that he can wear even very tough people down.

That whole discussion about Castillo and Tszyu being shot is funny. Just a few years ago after losses to Winky Wright and unimpressive victories over David Estrada and Jose Luis Cruz people were calling Shane shot. I remember watching the Eastside boxing chats to the Wright fights and the consensus was that Shane was shot. He wasn't.

I do have to say that Cotto has faired better at Welterweight than Hatton has faired, but after seeing Ricky manhandle Tszyu and Castillo, I wouldn't rule out the possibility that he could hurt Miguel. Ricky has very good defensive skills; I think better than Miguel's.

I say it's a coin toss.

sugar shane would knock the fuck out of sticky ricky, look what shane did to luis collazo who hatton went life and death with.

[bigbite]

hatton lost to pbf by a punch that even pbf didn't mean to throw, up until that point hatton was actually winning that fight...hatton would beat cotto because even though he's good, cotto takes too many shots in all his fights and a hard hitter like hatton maybe the wrong to fight with that style

[Devilface2]

hatton lost to pbf by a punch that even pbf didn't mean to throw, up until that point hatton was actually winning that fight...hatton would beat cotto because even though he's good, cotto takes too many shots in all his fights and a hard hitter like hatton maybe the wrong to fight with that style

:rofl:rofl:rofl

[pngo]

The Hatton nuthuggers will never cease to amaze me

[Relentless]

hatton lost to pbf by a punch that even pbf didn't mean to throw, up until that point hatton was actually winning that fight...hatton would beat cotto because even though he's good, cotto takes too many shots in all his fights and a hard hitter like hatton maybe the wrong to fight with that style


:lol: :lol: :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

please just shut the fuck up!!!!!!

another hatton cum bucket.

[MON]

sugar shane would knock the fuck out of sticky ricky, look what shane did to luis collazo who hatton went life and death with.

Means nothing.

Mayweather 'lost' to Castillo the first time, Hatton KO'd him in 4....

....that must mean Hatton will beat Mayweather, Oh wait...:patsch

Collazo got injured against Mosley early, was never going to be a fight after that.

[pngo]

Means nothing.

Mayweather 'lost' to Castillo the first time, Hatton KO'd him in 4....

....that must mean Hatton will beat Mayweather, Oh wait...:patsch

Collazo got injured against Mosley early, was never going to be a fight after that.
Hatton KO'd an obviously shot Castillo, PBF fought a prime Castillo.

[nighthunter]

cotto is too big for hatton but in boxing anything can happen but its minimal chance of winning for him.

[Relentless]

Hatton KO'd an obviously shot Castillo, PBF fought a prime Castillo.

dont forget castillo had just come up to 140lb.

[Carlos Primera]

hatton lost to pbf by a punch that even pbf didn't mean to throw, up until that point hatton was actually winning that fight...hatton would beat cotto because even though he's good, cotto takes too many shots in all his fights and a hard hitter like hatton maybe the wrong to fight with that style
:patsch

[Boricua - TLH]

Only one thing to say... Cotto never has the reach advantage in the ring and he still manages to establish his jab in dominating fation. Imagine what he would do to a man with a shorter reach like Hatton. He would dominate Hatton easily. I'd say Hatton last 5 rds with Cotto... Hell, he wouldn't even dare 'to take the fight.

[brooklyn1550]

I'm shocked that anybody would take Hatton in this fight. Hatton relies on his strength advantages. He gets in close, mauls, grapples and wears guys down. Against Cotto, he would be facing somebody who is much stronger and has more fluidity with his punches in close. Cotto could basically brutalize Ricky any way he choses. He could outbox him and keep him at the end of his jab or pressure him, making Ricky fight off the backfoot, and wearing him down for a middle round TKO.

[41fever]

i think Cotto stops him with a bodyshot.I think so too, but Hatton will make it fun while it lasts

[IntentionalButt]

The "shot" Tszyu that Hatton beat is better, by far, than anyone that Cotto's ever fought, and would beat Cotto head to head. How about that?

That Tszyu beats 07 Mosley?

[Polymath]

I think so too, but Hatton will make it fun while it lasts

Yup, I love his clinches.

Haven't seen 'fun' like that since a prime Ruiz.