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PrideOfWales
10-09-2009, 01:55 PM
Read this in the paper on my way home tonight. Alledgedly he hit his wife/girlfriend and he'd banged up.

Anyone know anything more?
GazOC
10-09-2009, 01:57 PM
He's been released by police, apparently she was "asking for it".
kosaros
10-09-2009, 01:57 PM
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Last night Ruby dismissed the bust-up as a "storm in a teacup". She added: "We had a personal argument. It's all sorted out."

I guess he is still fighting tonight.
ScouseLad
10-09-2009, 01:58 PM
*awaits Rob* These pesky pikeys!
PrideOfWales
10-09-2009, 02:00 PM
He's been released by police, apparently she was "asking for it".

As in:

"Hi Billy Joe... I bet you couldn't knock me out. I want you to plant a right hook on my chin please"

BJS: "No"

HER: "Frankie Gavin hits harder than you"

BJS: "Right, that's it..."
Mazallan
10-09-2009, 02:09 PM
He is still undeafeated caravan park series champion too. Taking on all comers.
chrisfinch
10-09-2009, 02:22 PM
As in:

"Hi Billy Joe... I bet you couldn't knock me out. I want you to plant a right hook on my chin please"

BJS: "No"

HER: "Frankie Gavin hits harder than you"

BJS: "Right, that's it..."

:rofl

priceless
zico2010
10-09-2009, 02:26 PM
How the fuck can he go from welterweight to supermiddleweight in a year?
dan-b
10-09-2009, 02:29 PM
How the fuck can he go from welterweight to supermiddleweight in a year?

That confused me too. I started to question whether he'd ever been a welter.
GazOC
10-09-2009, 02:37 PM
One reason is that welterweight in the ams is a higher weight than in the pros (152 vs 147). I'd guess at his age he's still developing as well but he does look a bit fleshy at super middle.
TFFP
10-09-2009, 02:39 PM
BJS is a chubby bastard. Very disapointing, he should still be at welter and at most junior middle as far as I'm concerned.
dan-b
10-09-2009, 02:39 PM
I rate the guy highly, I must say.
Mazallan
10-09-2009, 02:41 PM
What do pikeys feed on to be so fat? Fury and now BJS. No offence intended.
kurt2006
10-09-2009, 03:46 PM
How the fuck can he go from welterweight to supermiddleweight in a year?

You not seen the Tyson Fury type build he has especially around his waist:D, so I guess a poor diet.
tony mush
10-09-2009, 04:05 PM
What do pikeys feed on to be so fat? Fury and now BJS. No offence intended.
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
The-Holmes-Show
10-09-2009, 05:13 PM
Its cos Fury and Saunders tarmac the roads instead of running on the fuckers,, Fury is a state, cant take the guy seriously when you see those love handles.
TehRileh
10-09-2009, 05:36 PM
BJS will fight after Cleverly
icemax
10-09-2009, 05:44 PM
*awaits Rob* These pesky pikeys!

My breath is baited :deal
dan-b
10-09-2009, 05:45 PM
My breath is baited :deal

What with?
icemax
10-09-2009, 05:47 PM
What with?

Anticipation
dan-b
10-09-2009, 05:48 PM
Anticipation

Ah, so you mean bated then.:p
icemax
10-09-2009, 06:00 PM
Ah, so you mean bated then.:p
Smart cunt :deal:D
dan-b
10-09-2009, 06:56 PM
Smart cunt :deal:D

Sorry.:lol:
slip&counter
10-09-2009, 07:40 PM
i just don't like the disposition of these fighters
robpalmer135
10-09-2009, 07:42 PM
"Saunders, 20, had a row with Ruby, 18 - mother of his two sons"

LOL
GladiatoR
10-09-2009, 08:18 PM
"Saunders, 20, had a row with Ruby, 18 - mother of his two sons"

LOL

" Ruby started breeding when she was only 15 years old. Her mother was particularly known within the gypsy community as having a good pedigree. "
gasman
10-10-2009, 04:04 AM
I thought Billy Joe Saunders was too anxious to impress and get the KO. In some of these 4 rounders he will meet tough/awkward/ brawlers who do not go over easily, that is when he needs to just content himself with outboxing the guy and benefitting from getting the rounds under his belt.

One other thing, I think it is a good thing that De Gale, Saunders and Gavin are not on the same bills as there is definitely more pressure on each of the lads to go out and do a better job (i.e. quicker finish etc) to stand out. As I said, you need to fight your own fight and use your pedigree to outbox an opponent when it is required, rather than trying to fight to the crowd or your own high expectations, due to this pressure.
UndisputedUK
10-10-2009, 04:05 AM
Very unimpressed by this guy. Looked overweight and chubby. Perhaps it was an off night for him. I thought he was a light welterweight, what was he doing at middleweight?
Any decent operator at Welterweight will starch him. I cannot believe he's being hyped up as a big prospect.
gasman
10-10-2009, 04:12 AM
Very unimpressed by this guy. Looked overweight and chubby. Perhaps it was an off night for him. I thought he was a light welterweight, what was he doing at middleweight?
Any decent operator at Welterweight will starch him. I cannot believe he's being hyped up as a big prospect.

Who do you rate out of all of the upcoming prospects?

De Gale is the one that stands out for me.

I thought Saunders was impressive (albeit against a poor opponent) in his last fight, but he does look overweight and perhaps needs to drop down a weight? Last night he didnt showing much technical prowness, he got drawn into an untidy brawl.
slip&counter
10-10-2009, 04:18 AM
I thought Billy Joe Saunders was too anxious to impress and get the KO. In some of these 4 rounders he will meet tough/awkward/ brawlers who do not go over easily, that is when he needs to just content himself with outboxing the guy and benefitting from getting the rounds under his belt.

One other thing, I think it is a good thing that De Gale, Saunders and Gavin are not on the same bills as there is definitely more pressure on each of the lads to go out and do a better job (i.e. quicker finish etc) to stand out. As I said, you need to fight your own fight and use your pedigree to outbox an opponent when it is required, rather than trying to fight to the crowd or your own high expectations, due to this pressure.


Damn well said, Gasman

you hit the nail on the head and drove through the 2x4 :good
UndisputedUK
10-10-2009, 04:19 AM
Who do you rate out of all of the upcoming prospects?

De Gale is the one that stands out for me.

I thought Saunders was impressive (albeit against a poor opponent) in his last fight, but he does look overweight and perhaps needs to drop down a weight? Last night he didnt showing much technical prowness, he got drawn into an untidy brawl.

I'm not too sure really. De Gale looks to be fighting within himself at the moment. Unless the divisions are really weak then I would not bet on any of them being a world champion. Although the WBO route may well be open to them all. I would say Cleverly at the moment, although he needs to up his game to reach decent European / WBO level.
Strike
10-10-2009, 04:26 AM
Super Middle?:roll:

I'd like to change my pick of him being the best Olympic prospect then. He has a decent level of power but nothing great. At middleweight or light middle...fine.

Super Middle is too big, his power wont carry and he is not some slick boxer. Imagine him trying to wear down the bigger guys in the division and the shots he'll have to take on the way in.
dan-b
10-10-2009, 04:59 AM
^ He was fighting at middle last night but your point still stands; totally agree.
gasman
10-10-2009, 05:02 AM
Damn well said, Gasman

you hit the nail on the head and drove through the 2x4 :good

Thanks.

It was really interesting to listen to Harry Hawkins (Bernard Dunnes trainer) the other night at the buncelive show in Belfast. Harry was making the point about how much pressure Bernard put on himself i.e. he felt that he was fighting for the nation and didnt want to let anyone down etc. Harry also, pointedly, said to Rogie, who was in attendance, that this type of pressure is something that he will be managing, now that hopes are on big Rogie to do the is business.

Rogie and Dunne are experienced operators and it has to be tough for those guys to manage pressure and expectations, so we can only imagine what it is like for the young upcoming guys like the Olympians.
gasman
10-10-2009, 05:04 AM
I'm not too sure really. De Gale looks to be fighting within himself at the moment. Unless the divisions are really weak then I would not bet on any of them being a world champion. Although the WBO route may well be open to them all. I would say Cleverly at the moment, although he needs to up his game to reach decent European / WBO level.

I think there is more to come from De Gale, but really we don't know until he is in there with the top opponents. I havent been blown away with Cleverly, not sure if he has what it takes at the highest level, and hope he takes his time. Bellew v Cleverly would be an intriguing fight next year, if they can make that match.
lefthook82
10-10-2009, 05:15 AM
Don't think much of BJS at all. Never have to be honest. Watt made a pont that I made months ago in that you could forget that he was a southpaw because he doesnt use it to his advantage when fighting these dopey opponents. As for his power, early days but it doen't look that promising

He looks like he should be at 154lbs maximum but then he is only 18/19 so his body will be growing. Without sufficient discipline he could end up permanetly at SMW and if thats the case not even ****** will be able to manufacture a long career for him
dan-b
10-10-2009, 05:21 AM
I think you all make good points, I do feel there is some talent there though. I guess we'll have to wait and see if he can dedicate himself properly.
theimmortalhun
10-10-2009, 11:42 AM
Frankie Gavins been a standout for me. He's definately the best technically IMO, though he isnt heavy handed and hasn't been remotely tested yet.
AndrewFFC
10-10-2009, 12:02 PM
Hardly suprising from a pikey.

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mryeags
10-10-2009, 05:11 PM
Frankie Gavin by far the best and the other two will be British champs at best !
icemax
10-10-2009, 05:41 PM
Hardly suprising from a pikey.



Do stop it you cunt, you don't even know what a Pikey is :deal
AndrewFFC
10-10-2009, 06:03 PM
Do stop it you cunt, you don't even know what a Pikey is :deal


Are you the forum expert? :think
icemax
10-10-2009, 06:12 PM
Are you the forum expert? :think

Well considering I'm from the same sort of background as BJS, probably:good
kosaros
10-10-2009, 06:15 PM
Frankie Gavin by far the best and the other two will be British champs at best !

Slightly underestimating them eh?

I expect all of them to reach Euro level at least really.
AndrewFFC
10-10-2009, 06:17 PM
Well considering I'm from the same sort of background as BJS, probably:good

No offence intended.

He is however definately a pikey :deal
PrideOfWales
10-10-2009, 06:18 PM
No offence intended.

He is however definately a pikey :deal

So what percentage of pikey would you estimate that Robin Reid is? :think
icemax
10-10-2009, 06:19 PM
He is however definately a pikey :deal

:-(

When you ask a Romany what it actually means, come back and let us know :deal

You saying that BJS is a pikey is as daft as calling Frankie Gavin a n****r
AndrewFFC
10-10-2009, 08:03 PM
:-(

When you ask a Romany what it actually means, come back and let us know :deal

You saying that BJS is a pikey is as daft as calling Frankie Gavin a n****r


Pikey is a word for travellers.

Romany are travellers, no?
icemax
10-10-2009, 08:20 PM
Pikey is a word for travellers.

Romany are travellers, no?

No. A romany might call any other traveller a pikey, but more likely it is used to describe a member of the group who has been cast out forever for thieving, or bringing shame on that family...it really is a massive insult. A pikey in Romany tradition would probably have a small tattoo under his eye to show that he had been tried by the family and this is a warning to other Romany that the man isn't trustworthy and should be shunned.
AndrewFFC
10-10-2009, 08:29 PM
Ive heard thieving by the travelling community is hugely widespread in Italy and Greece.

Are the Romani the majority travellers community there?
icemax
10-11-2009, 03:26 AM
Ive heard thieving by the travelling community is hugely widespread in Italy and Greece.

Are the Romani the majority travellers community there?

No idea...BJS isn't Greek or Italian
AndrewFFC
10-11-2009, 09:15 AM
No idea...BJS isn't Greek or Italian

Aye but he's still a gypsy.
TommyV
10-11-2009, 09:23 AM
As in:

"Hi Billy Joe... I bet you couldn't knock me out. I want you to plant a right hook on my chin please"

BJS: "No"

HER: "Frankie Gavin hits harder than you"

BJS: "Right, that's it..."

:lol:

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Anyway, I doubt he'll stay at super-middle. He's coming in around 163 for his fights, so he'll probably drop down to middle.
icemax
10-11-2009, 10:56 AM
Aye but he's still a gypsy.

Correct :happy....and Romani chal have been in this country since the 16th century
AndrewFFC
10-11-2009, 11:30 AM
Correct :happy....and Romani chal have been in this country since the 16th century

Which brings me back to my original point, that being a gypsy, I can call him a pikey.
icemax
10-11-2009, 12:04 PM
Which brings me back to my original point, that being a gypsy, I can call him a pikey.

You can call him anything you want to you ill educated cock, but it doesn't make him one does it?
AndrewFFC
10-11-2009, 12:10 PM
You can call him anything you want to you ill educated cock, but it doesn't make him one does it?

Pikey is a pejorative term for gypsies.
icemax
10-11-2009, 12:20 PM
Pikey is a pejorative term for gypsies.

:-(
dan-b
10-11-2009, 12:30 PM
In all the interviews he's given he's come across as a decent guy and, certainly, less of a cock than Degale, for example, who isn't "pikey".
Mazallan
10-11-2009, 12:56 PM
Punching the mother of his kids is a very 'pikey' thing to do and worse than being a cock in interviews.
AndrewFFC
10-11-2009, 01:07 PM
:-(

yes it is.
AndrewFFC
10-11-2009, 01:09 PM
In all the interviews he's given he's come across as a decent guy and, certainly, less of a cock than Degale, for example, who isn't "pikey".

Great guy then.
icemax
10-11-2009, 07:24 PM
yes it is.

Grow up, if you want me to come darn sarf and talk about this I will, no problem, but you obviously have issues...gypo butt fuck your mother???
AndrewFFC
10-11-2009, 07:44 PM
Grow up, if you want me to come darn sarf and talk about this I will, no problem, but you obviously have issues...gypo butt fuck your mother???


You sound angry




have some lucky heather

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icemax
10-11-2009, 08:00 PM
You sound angry




have some lucky heather

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Thats genuinely funny :lol: