View Full Version : Who had a better blend of Speed and Power?
Titan1
10-13-2009, 01:08 PM
Roy Jones Jr, or Mike Tyson?
Popkins
10-13-2009, 01:11 PM
It's tricky to answer questions like this. I'd say Jones.
TheUnstoppable
10-13-2009, 01:19 PM
I'd probably say Jones; he started out in the am's as a superwelter and had ferocious power for most of his career. He even carried the power up to HW.
gooners!!
10-13-2009, 01:21 PM
Mike Tyson.
Roy Jones was not as devastating a puncher imo, his accuracy and speed coupled with good power, albeit not spectacular are what did away with his opponents more than anything, although i know you can make a case that with his KO wins over Glen Thomas, Glenn Wolfe who both went the distance with Toney, his KO of Malinga who went the distance with Benn & Eubank could suggest that he was just as devastating of a puncher, then there are his spectacular KO's of Art Serwano, Thomas Tate.
When i saw Jones against guys like Telesco, Gonzalez, Mike McCallum, Lou Del Valle, Johnson going the distance with Roy then it kinda pointed to that Roy was not that big a puncher at LHW, particularly against Telesco. I think if he was that devastating of a puncher p4p he would of carried his power to LHW, he had a good stoppage win over Hill but the Brannon's, Richard Hall, Glen Kellys of the world dont prove that much.
PetethePrince
10-13-2009, 01:34 PM
Tyson, easy.
lefthook31
10-13-2009, 01:45 PM
Tyson. His natural punching power was far greater than Jones pound for pound. His speed was about equal "pound for pound" Tyson was very quick.
Popkins
10-13-2009, 01:47 PM
Tyson. His natural punching power was far greater than Jones pound for pound. His speed was about equal "pound for pound" Tyson was very quick.
I would say at 168 Jones's power was only a little behind Tyson's p4p, but his speed was quite some way ahead. Come on, Tyson was damn fast, but Superman Jones was another level.
I'm hard pressed to think of any fighter who could deliver more damage-per-second than Tyson.
Yeah, a couple of heavyweights may have had slightly more one-punch power (Shavers, Foreman), but Tyson could deliver 3 punches of nearly equal power in that same time frame.
Bill Butcher
10-13-2009, 02:31 PM
Roy Jones Jr, or Mike Tyson?
This ones been done before, I struggled then for an answer but now I have one..... Tyson.
In a p4p sense - both at their peaks - Roy is a bit faster than Mike but I think the power gap is more in Tyson`s favour than the speed is in Roy`s so my answer is Tyson.
Joe Louis was also one of the best ever combining speed n power.
lefthook31
10-13-2009, 02:38 PM
I would say at 168 Jones's power was only a little behind Tyson's p4p, but his speed was quite some way ahead. Come on, Tyson was damn fast, but Superman Jones was another level.
Can only think of a couple heavyweights that would even come close to the speed of Tyson.
Bill Butcher
10-13-2009, 02:43 PM
Can only think of a couple heavyweights that would even come close to the speed of Tyson.
Ali & Louis probably..... unless you want to throw in Patterson too.
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DDA365
10-13-2009, 02:55 PM
When i saw Jones against guys like Telesco, Gonzalez, Mike McCallum, Lou Del Valle, Johnson going the distance with Roy then it kinda pointed to that Roy was not that big a puncher at LHW, particularly against Telesco. I think if he was that devastating of a puncher p4p he would of carried his power to LHW, he had a good stoppage win over Hill but the Brannon's, Richard Hall, Glen Kellys of the world dont prove that much.
He had an injured hand against Telesco to be fair to him
I he didnt have huge power at lightheavyweight but it was decent, and the speed made it devestating
I find this question impossible to answer though, my first instinct was Tyson but I dont know why. They both had the right mix for their styles.
PowerPuncher
10-13-2009, 03:08 PM
Well Jones is significantly faster, Tyson probably has better P4P power BUT Tyson is more aggressive, Jones is usually far less aggressive but he has 1 punch kos of his own so that puts some bias on Tysons P4P power imo although I'd still say Tyson had better P4P power, plus Tyson was KO'ing bigger men
Hard 1 to pick
jaffay
10-13-2009, 03:10 PM
Tyson because his speed & power combo was more explosive
Yes. Let's do some science here and get RJJ and Tyson into that motion capture box.
Shake
10-13-2009, 03:20 PM
Jones was significantly faster on his feet and had much better reflexes. This would only be a debate if we were talking about handspeed only, and in that case I'd give it to Mike, but when you factor in all-purpose speed it's a wash imo.
round15
10-13-2009, 06:42 PM
Pound for pound, I'd day Roy Jones, especially factoring in handspeed and footspeed with relation to his power. Jones' quickness generated immediate power due to the fact that his punch follow through was fast. Mike Tyson had very good speed and power, comparable to that of Ali and Floyd Patterson, strictly hand speed.
Tyson has more overall power than Jones at prime, but on the basis of weight division, nobody was faster than RJJ.
Weber
10-13-2009, 07:09 PM
Remember Jones-Griffin II?
Jones had no lack of power at LHW, he just preferred dragging his fights out and clowning his opponents. I remember George Foreman saying after the fight that Roy easily had enough power to go to HW.
he grant
10-16-2009, 08:10 AM
Tyson.
pretty boy
10-16-2009, 08:18 AM
Tyson as jines mainly relied on speed while tyson used speed to get in close and power to KO people wen he got there.
Xplosive
10-16-2009, 08:51 AM
I think that in terms of combining blinding handspeed, and devestating power, no other fighter in history had it like Tyson. The 85-89 Tyson literally had the handspeed of a middleweight, and no need to even comment on his power.
The 160-168 Jones comes pretty close, but I defenitely give Mike the edge.
ripcity
10-16-2009, 12:06 PM
If they were the same size Jones would be faster. Tyson would have a higher ko%
asero
10-17-2009, 01:08 AM
pacquiao
Quitali Bitchko
10-17-2009, 03:17 AM
:rofl:nut
Leonard
10-17-2009, 11:57 AM
Roy Jones Jr. Seems effortless.
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