Penn wants GSP rematch & Faber fight, Says GSP should fight Silva.

[sugarngold]

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“I definitely want to fight GSP again. I’m biased and I have confidence in myself and I don’t think the fight would go anything like that if we fought again. I’ve got to defend the lightweight title and take on all challenges that make me better but if I get a chance to fight GSP again �" even if it was a non-title fight �" I’d jump at the opportunity. There will always be people to beat and as the lightweight champion I have to honor that and keep defending the title. But as a businessman you hope it’s someone with a big name who can bring a big fan base into the fight. This is a business �" it’s the entertainment business and the biggest fights that can be put together will only benefit me. I am surprised Georges St. Pierre[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) hasn’t tried to push for a fight with Anderson Silva. If I was the welterweight champion I’d try and push myself and see what I could do up at middleweight.”

And on the possibility of fighting 145lb stand out Urijah Faber[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]):

"I've actually spoken to Urijah about that on a couple of occasions and you never know what the future holds.

"This is a business �" it's the entertainment business and the biggest fights that can be put together will only benefit me.

"You always want to be involved with the biggest fights taking place in the sport".

[radab]

BJ would again be destroyed by GSP, just as GSP would be destroyed by Silva. These guys are just too good at their fighting weights

[doomeddisciple]

"You're going to have to kill me George" - Uh-huh - He did everything but.

Wow. Hawaiian Punch-drunk from GSP making him cry last time.

[Thom]

Both are pointless fights. Penn would get killed by GSP again and he would be way too strong for Faber. If he wants to fight a FW, it should be Mike Brown.

[chimba]

BJ and GSP, both great but totally different fighting mentality. BJ Penn will fight a retarded gorilla in a cage, he's that type. GSP as great as he is taps from strikes, something that fighters like the Gracies, BJ wouldnt even think of. Whether you think thats dumb or gutsy, it is what it is.

Theres no way Georges is calling Anderson out, thats just not him. It wouldnt be a wise career move, because when Anderson is done with a fighter, you can never look at that fighter the same way. With BJ losing to GSP, BJ only managed to salvage some of his rep partly because of his made for TV character and some still interesting matchups left at LW (Kenflo, Diego etc).

I remember how down and insecure GSP was after Serra, hows he getting back from Silva? Silva wont grind him out like he did BJ, He will be hi-lite reel material.

[Sloth]

GSP is on a whole other level. He gets better everytime he fights. GSP wins a rematch with Penn easily. And Penn is a great fighter, but GSP is elite.

[jimmie]

No interest in either fight.

[chimba]

GSP is on a whole other level. He gets better everytime he fights. GSP wins a rematch with Penn easily. And Penn is a great fighter, but GSP is elite.

They are both elite, GSP is at least 20 pounds of muscle heavier than BJ and has maybe the best MMA wrestling in history which is a great discipline to maximize weight advantage. You give BJ Penn a good natural 145'r like a FAber even a brown and believe you me, hell either KO em or sub them.

[boxingcar]

Penn can't accept that GSP has his number...

[IntentionalButt]

It's sad that it's reached this point, but I don't really care what BJ does now, nor am I too eager to see the chunky monkey back in the octagon period.

[Dynamite Kid]

No interest in either fight.

Me either. Both guys are just fine doing what they're doing right now. They should just continue to solidify themselves as the best lightweight & welterweight in the world.

And a BJ vs Faber I have absolutely no interest in either. I think BJ should stop focusing on the possibilty of fighting these other guys and focus on the reality that he's got a big fight against a hungry contender named Diego Sanchez coming for his strap. If BJ takes Diego lightly, Diego is gonna maul him.

[BewareofDawg]

It's not like BJ is pushing for those matches, just that he is open to them and would be interested and willing.

[sugarngold]

BJ has the kind of mentality a fighter needs - fight anyone any time anywhere. I think he's right on all counts. A GSP/Silva match would be interesting and I would watch a Penn/GSP rematch - although that would be a hard sell after the way Penn was dominated in their last fight.

[BewareofDawg]

BJ has the kind of mentality a fighter needs - fight anyone any time anywhere. I think he's right on all counts. A GSP/Silva match would be interesting and I would watch a Penn/GSP rematch - although that would be a hard sell after the way Penn was dominated in their last fight.
The only way this fight would happen again is if Penn beat a legit WW, and GSP suffers a loss. Otherwise, nobody will be interested in it. More and more demand is going to arise to move GSP up to Middleweight. :deal

[valdez]

GSP V Silva would be the shit..

[québecwarrior]

BJ and GSP, both great but totally different fighting mentality. BJ Penn will fight a retarded gorilla in a cage, he's that type. GSP as great as he is taps from strikes, something that fighters like the Gracies, BJ wouldnt even think of. Whether you think thats dumb or gutsy, it is what it is.

Theres no way Georges is calling Anderson out, thats just not him. It wouldnt be a wise career move, because when Anderson is done with a fighter, you can never look at that fighter the same way. With BJ losing to GSP, BJ only managed to salvage some of his rep partly because of his made for TV character and some still interesting matchups left at LW (Kenflo, Diego etc).

I remember how down and insecure GSP was after Serra, hows he getting back from Silva? Silva wont grind him out like he did BJ, He will be hi-lite reel material.
Wow. You have your own opinion and I respect that, but I think Henderson, Marquartd, Cote, Leites and even Franklin are still good fighter in peoples eyes. Wtf dude. Like GSP would be finish because he would get beat by TKO, in your eyes. No fuckin sense, and GSP lost to SErra, it only made him stronger mentally.
Stop talking out of your ass like you know the guy personally. GSP isnt even ashamed that he lost to a C level fighter in Serra, it made him grow.

[radab]

Wow. You have your own opinion and I respect that, but I think Henderson, Marquartd, Cote, Leites and even Franklin are still good fighter in peoples eyes. Wtf dude. Like GSP would be finish because he would get beat by TKO, in your eyes. No fuckin sense, and GSP lost to SErra, it only made him stronger mentally.
Stop talking out of your ass like you know the guy personally. GSP isnt even ashamed that he lost to a C level fighter in Serra, it made him grow.



I totally agree with that. GSP is an absolute warrior, he's taken that loss and he's grown from it. He's fought the best around, and he's beaten them all. He definitely should NOT step up to try and take on the best LHW in the world at MW. If anything, Anderson is the coward for shredding so much and beating on far naturally smaller opposition - and that's essentialy what stops Anderson from being recognised as the P4P best fighter on the planet

[Boyd]

Wow. You have your own opinion and I respect that, but I think Henderson, Marquartd, Cote, Leites and even Franklin are still good fighter in peoples eyes. Wtf dude. Like GSP would be finish because he would get beat by TKO, in your eyes. No fuckin sense, and GSP lost to SErra, it only made him stronger mentally.
Stop talking out of your ass like you know the guy personally. GSP isnt even ashamed that he lost to a C level fighter in Serra, it made him grow.plus BJ quit on his stool as far as i saw it. why is that any different than tapping from strikes?

[AmericanSugar]

I totally agree with that. GSP is an absolute warrior, he's taken that loss and he's grown from it. He's fought the best around, and he's beaten them all. He definitely should NOT step up to try and take on the best LHW in the world at MW. If anything, Anderson is the coward for shredding so much and beating on far naturally smaller opposition - and that's essentialy what stops Anderson from being recognised as the P4P best fighter on the planet

you might be the dumbest person on your block. silva has a great record. so rich franklin is smaller in statue than silva? silva is a tall skinny guy thats just his build.

[AmericanSugar]

penn wants to challenge the best but doesn't like to train. gsp loves to train but doesn't challenge himself by moving up in weight.

[AmericanSugar]

and tyron woodley is coming to take gsp's head and belt.

[Dynamite Kid]

penn wants to challenge the best but doesn't like to train. gsp loves to train but doesn't challenge himself by moving up in weight.

Come on man, he doesn't have to. He's got a great thing going at 170 right now and can soon be considered the greatest welterweight surpassing of Matt Hughes. GSP right now is dominating his weight class. He's cleaning it out. He's not moving up in weight, he's not moving down in weight, he's not fighting someone at a catch weight, he's the king of his domain right now. He should stay that way. Me being a GSP fan, I wanna see him make several defenses of his title and win them all.

[Popkins]

Silva would murder GSP, but the size gap between those two is bigger than between GSP and Penn. BJ was out of shape in the last fight with Georges, if he got the chance to redeem himself he would whip himself into amazing shape and be more motivated than ever. That one would be a serious fight, and far closer than most people think.

[Vitor Belfort]

I would like to see faber fight in the ufc. Penn vs Faber would be a nice fight. Faber is pretty strong and has all around skills. I still think bj would whoop his ass but i would still pay to see this fight.

As far as GSP is concern, i wouldn't mind seeing them fight again.

[Vitor Belfort]

Come on man, he doesn't have to. He's got a great thing going at 170 right now and can soon be considered the greatest welterweight surpassing of Matt Hughes. GSP right now is dominating his weight class. He's cleaning it out. He's not moving up in weight, he's not moving down in weight, he's not fighting someone at a catch weight, he's the king of his domain right now. He should stay that way. Me being a GSP fan, I wanna see him make several defenses of his title and win them all.

See that's the difference between penn and gsp. Penn loves to challenge himself even against a much bigger opponent like that beast machida. GSP has pretty much cleaned up his division. Alves and fitch i thought would have been his biggest challenge but he dominated them both. Why not test himself against the middleweights? Do you really want to see GSP fight Swick or Kampman? I like to see gsp fight @ 185 and he doesn't have to fight silva right away. Test himself against bisping or leben-belcher-kang or whoever just to see test himself.

Anderson and Bj has both fought outside their weight class so GSP should at least try. GSP vs Leben is a good test for him.

[Dynamite Kid]

See that's the difference between penn and gsp. Penn loves to challenge himself even against a much bigger opponent like that beast machida. GSP has pretty much cleaned up his division. Alves and fitch i thought would have been his biggest challenge but he dominated them both. Why not test himself against the middleweights? Do you really want to see GSP fight Swick or Kampman? I like to see gsp fight @ 185 and he doesn't have to fight silva right away. Test himself against bisping or leben-belcher-kang or whoever just to see test himself.

Anderson and Bj has both fought outside their weight class so GSP should at least try. GSP vs Leben is a good test for him.

Leben- And what would be the point of GSP fighting Leben? He's a steroid using no talent bum who can't win a fight to save his life. Leben is garbage. No talent, slow, not athletic. Infact, when Boxing fans bullshit themselves by saying MMA guys can't throw a straight punch, they're probably watching a Leben fight. He totally sucks.

Bisping- Got stretched against Dan and if Dana put Bisping(who can't punch through a paper bag) in the cage with GSP would just show that they're trying to get the Brit manhandled on a GSP poster.

Kang- His best days might be behind him. I doubt he can hang with GSP.

Belcher- Is undeserving of a big fight just like Leben is and he just lost to Akiyama. No way he's in potential to fight the best welterweight in the world.

Swick- Atleast is marketable and actually stands a chance to put up a better fight than anyone you just mentioned for GSP to test himself against at 185.

Kampman- Didn't he just lose to Daley recently?:huh He's not getting any title shots anytime nowhere soon. I'd rather see Swick, Davis, Daley, & Hardy fight GSP over that guy.

[Vitor Belfort]

Leben- And what would be the point of GSP fighting Leben? He's a steroid using no talent bum who can't win a fight to save his life. Leben is garbage. No talent, slow, not athletic. Infact, when Boxing fans bullshit themselves by saying MMA guys can't throw a straight punch, they're probably watching a Leben fight. He totally sucks.

Bisping- Got stretched against Dan and if Dana put Bisping(who can't punch through a paper bag) in the cage with GSP would just show that they're trying to get the Brit manhandled on a GSP poster.

Kang- His best days might be behind him. I doubt he can hang with GSP.

Belcher- Is undeserving of a big fight just like Leben is and he just lost to Akiyama. No way he's in potential to fight the best welterweight in the world.

Swick- Atleast is marketable and actually stands a chance to put up a better fight than anyone you just mentioned for GSP to test himself against at 185.

Kampman- Didn't he just lose to Daley recently?:huh He's not getting any title shots anytime nowhere soon. I'd rather see Swick, Davis, Daley, & Hardy fight GSP over that guy.

GSP is just testing himself at 185 so i put those names out. He doesn't have to fight the best right away. I don't think he beats them all like your making it sound. I think bisping can give him a good fight. He got KO by Dan Henderson who has fought at 205 and higher. We're talking about gsp here. He doesn't have the power to hurt bisping like henderson did.

As far as belcher and leben is concern, it's a test for gsp to see if he can handle 185lbs fighter. Silva didn't go up t 205 and just fought the best right away. He fought james irvin first. GSP could do the same, fight a journeyman first then fight a contender next.

[Dynamite Kid]

GSP is just testing himself at 185 so i put those names out. He doesn't have to fight the best right away. I don't think he beats them all like your making it sound. I think bisping can give him a good fight. He got KO by Dan Henderson who has fought at 205 and higher. We're talking about gsp here. He doesn't have the power to hurt bisping like henderson did.

As far as belcher and leben is concern, it's a test for gsp to see if he can handle 185lbs fighter. Silva didn't go up t 205 and just fought the best right away. He fought james irvin first. GSP could do the same, fight a journeyman first then fight a contender next.

Come on Vitor, I read alot of your posts on the Boxing & MMA forums and you're a good poster, plus obviously you're a Pac fan like me:thumbsup

You're really saying GSP wouldn't destroy Bisping?

[cdnboxing]

BJ and GSP, both great but totally different fighting mentality. BJ Penn will fight a retarded gorilla in a cage, he's that type. GSP as great as he is taps from strikes, something that fighters like the Gracies, BJ wouldnt even think of. Whether you think thats dumb or gutsy, it is what it is.

Theres no way Georges is calling Anderson out, thats just not him. It wouldnt be a wise career move, because when Anderson is done with a fighter, you can never look at that fighter the same way. With BJ losing to GSP, BJ only managed to salvage some of his rep partly because of his made for TV character and some still interesting matchups left at LW (Kenflo, Diego etc).

I remember how down and insecure GSP was after Serra, hows he getting back from Silva? Silva wont grind him out like he did BJ, He will be hi-lite reel material.

Silva will likely beat GSP but he most certainly wouldnt make him look foolish. GSP can give Silva a better fight than 99% of the MW's and a large majority of LHW's.

And Silva is great but lets not get carried away. Its not like Silva walked in there and ruined Leites, Cote and others. And he certainly wouldnt do that against GSP.

[cdnboxing]

Come on man, he doesn't have to. He's got a great thing going at 170 right now and can soon be considered the greatest welterweight surpassing of Matt Hughes. GSP right now is dominating his weight class. He's cleaning it out. He's not moving up in weight, he's not moving down in weight, he's not fighting someone at a catch weight, he's the king of his domain right now. He should stay that way. Me being a GSP fan, I wanna see him make several defenses of his title and win them all.

Well thats absurd.

Who in their right mind wants to see him destroy C level fighters like Mike Swick?

GSP is already the best WW in MMA history. Hes done everything he could at WW, its now time to start taking some catchweight super fights or moving up.

[Dynamite Kid]

Well thats absurd.

Who in their right mind wants to see him destroy C level fighters like Mike Swick?

GSP is already the best WW in MMA history. Hes done everything he could at WW, its now time to start taking some catchweight super fights or moving up.

GSP is not yet considered the best welterweight in MMA history. That label still belongs to Matt Hughes.

And swick is marketable. And a good fighter. Calling him C level is absurd. He may not be on the p4p list but calling him C level? Nope, I disagree.

If Daley puts some good wins together I'd like to see GSP fight him to.

I hear they're trying to give Hardy a push. Not that I like him but I'd like to see GSP smash him also.

Just because a fighter is dominate in his weight class doesn't mean they have to move up. Matt Hughes spent his entire career at 170, I don't remember anyone pressuring him to move anywhere. He flirted with the idea once to move to 185 to fight Matt Lindland but he didn't. GSP hasn't spent years as a dominate champion yet. He's only got 3 successful title defenses. Fitch, Penn, & Alves. I wanna see him make more defenses. Like tie or break Matt Hughes's record of defenses. That solidifies GSP's mark on the division.

[chimba]

Silva will likely beat GSP but he most certainly wouldnt make him look foolish. GSP can give Silva a better fight than 99% of the MW's and a large majority of LHW's.

And Silva is great but lets not get carried away. Its not like Silva walked in there and ruined Leites, Cote and others. And he certainly wouldnt do that against GSP.

Its kinda hard to ruin someone who didnt want to fight. But I understand that, its a great marketing ploy to run from Silva and say "I lasted longest with him while Hendo got stopped"

I beg to differ on you with this one, If GSP engaged and doesnt get beaten up badly in this fight, then Ive overrated Silva big time.

We're looking at an equivalent of PBF in boxing with Silva and Machida, only difference is while they hardly get hit, they put a beatdown unlike PBF. Strategicaly, skillwise theyre relatively pretty equal. Tactically Lyoto is far and above everybody in the fight game right now, just like when BHop was 5 years back.

[chimba]

GSP is not yet considered the best welterweight in MMA history. That label still belongs to Matt Hughes.

And swick is marketable. And a good fighter. Calling him C level is absurd. He may not be on the p4p list but calling him C level? Nope, I disagree.

If Daley puts some good wins together I'd like to see GSP fight him to.

I hear they're trying to give Hardy a push. Not that I like him but I'd like to see GSP smash him also.

Just because a fighter is dominate in his weight class doesn't mean they have to move up. Matt Hughes spent his entire career at 170, I don't remember anyone pressuring him to move anywhere. He flirted with the idea once to move to 185 to fight Matt Lindland but he didn't. GSP hasn't spent years as a dominate champion yet. He's only got 3 successful title defenses. Fitch, Penn, & Alves. I wanna see him make more defenses. Like tie or break Matt Hughes's record of defenses. That solidifies GSP's mark on the division.

I agree Swick is B level but interesting, he does have quick hands and keeps proving us wrong. The problem against GSP maybe his inability to avoid the takedowns, I just cant see him avoiding it.

[Coast]

GSP as great as he is taps from strikes, something that fighters like the Gracies, BJ wouldnt even think of. Whether you think thats dumb or gutsy, it is what it is.

No BJ has the Yes men in his corner quit for him. They asked him several times if he wanted to keep fighting, BJ wouldn't even turn around to face them. Just prior to GSP-Penn 2, GSP gave Fitch a much, much worse beating & Fitch still finished the fight even though he had no chance of winning. Don't compare him to the Gracie's either, Genzo let Sakuraba snap his arm in half rather than submit. No fucking way would he have let his corner stop the fight with just one round to go. BJ wasn't injured, just tired, and tired of getting his ass kicked.

[Coast]

It wouldnt be a wise career move, because when Anderson is done with a fighter, you can never look at that fighter the same way.

I remember how down and insecure GSP was after Serra, hows he getting back from Silva? Silva wont grind him out like he did BJ, He will be hi-lite reel material.

Anderson's "hi-lite" material comes from stand up strikers looking to trade with him-Leben, Franklin, Irvin & Forrest. The fight's with guy's who relied more on their ground game-Lutter, Marquadt, and Henderson were more competitive non-spectacular wins. Plus the fights with Cote and Lietes just plain stunk. Franklin is probably the only fighter out of all of them you could say "you can never look at that fighter the same way", and Franklin had been KO'd before that fight.

I don't know what your point is about GSP being down & insecure after the Serra fight. Since then, he's cleaned out the division and dominated rematches with Serra, Hughes & Penn. It made him a better fighter.

[Dynamite Kid]

I agree Swick is B level but interesting, he does have quick hands and keeps proving us wrong. The problem against GSP maybe his inability to avoid the takedowns, I just cant see him avoiding it.

Well Swick has really good takedown defense. I don't know if he can stop GSP from taking him down but Swick's takedowm defense if very good. I remember the Josh Burkman fight, when everytime Burkman went in, it looked like he ran into a wall. He couldn't move Swick if his life depended on it.

[socrates]

GSP is not yet considered the best welterweight in MMA history. That label still belongs to Matt Hughes.

And swick is marketable. And a good fighter. Calling him C level is absurd. He may not be on the p4p list but calling him C level? Nope, I disagree.

If Daley puts some good wins together I'd like to see GSP fight him to.

I hear they're trying to give Hardy a push. Not that I like him but I'd like to see GSP smash him also.

Just because a fighter is dominate in his weight class doesn't mean they have to move up. Matt Hughes spent his entire career at 170, I don't remember anyone pressuring him to move anywhere. He flirted with the idea once to move to 185 to fight Matt Lindland but he didn't. GSP hasn't spent years as a dominate champion yet. He's only got 3 successful title defenses. Fitch, Penn, & Alves. I wanna see him make more defenses. Like tie or break Matt Hughes's record of defenses. That solidifies GSP's mark on the division.:good

[codeman99998]

GSP is not yet considered the best welterweight in MMA history. That label still belongs to Matt Hughes.



I disagree. If you look at opponents, common opponents, and the fact that GSP won 2 out of 3 versus Hughes I think makes it clear that GSP is the best WW in MMA history.

[Dynamite Kid]

I disagree. If you look at opponents, common opponents, and the fact that GSP won 2 out of 3 versus Hughes I think makes it clear that GSP is the best WW in MMA history.

Don't get me wrong GSP is a better fighter than Hughes, but they both have outstanding resumes. As far as common opponents(Penn, Trigg, Sherk, Serra, & Alves) they both hold victories over Penn & Trigg by stoppage. GSP holds a stoppage victory over Serra. Hughes also holds a victory over Serra. They both beat Sean Sherk. Yes GSP whipped Alves and Alves beat Hughes but Hughes has beaten 4 out of the 5 common opponents. That's excellent IMO.

Hughes's victories over opponents at the time he was champion made him one of the very best. And the best 170 lber to step in the Octagon. Carlos newton, Hayato Sakurai,(prime) Sean Sherk, (prime) Frank Trigg twice, & BJ Penn(even though they split 2 fights). Sure GSP beat Hughes 2 out of the 3 fights and IMO that's only reason GSP's resume might be slightly better. GSP still has some work at 170.

[cdnboxing]

I disagree. If you look at opponents, common opponents, and the fact that GSP won 2 out of 3 versus Hughes I think makes it clear that GSP is the best WW in MMA history.

I agree. Hes surpassed Hughes.

[BewareofDawg]

I disagree. If you look at opponents, common opponents, and the fact that GSP won 2 out of 3 versus Hughes I think makes it clear that GSP is the best WW in MMA history.
I cannot fathom how anyone still has Matt Hughes as the best WW in history. GSP has surpassed him in EVERY aspect, skills and resume. GSP's competition is Much stiffer as well.

[Hawks28]

unless BJ moves up to WW, and puts together a nice win streak with wins over the likes of Fitch, Alves, Daley or Koscheck, he doesnt ever deserve to be in the same cage as GSP again. Now that hes 0-2 against St. Pierre, he needs to actually earn his title shot this time, if he wants it. And beating LW's doesnt count. He shouldnt get a shot at GSP ahead of all the guys who have been busting their asses in the WW division, trying to make it to the top. Would be a waste of time for BJ anyway, since he would get smashed just as bad, if not worse, in a 3rd fight.

[Hawks28]

No BJ has the Yes men in his corner quit for him. They asked him several times if he wanted to keep fighting, BJ wouldn't even turn around to face them. Just prior to GSP-Penn 2, GSP gave Fitch a much, much worse beating & Fitch still finished the fight even though he had no chance of winning. Don't compare him to the Gracie's either, Genzo let Sakuraba snap his arm in half rather than submit. No fucking way would he have let his corner stop the fight with just one round to go. BJ wasn't injured, just tired, and tired of getting his ass kicked.

^^^^^ - The Truth. bj quit. After running his mouth like a bitch, calling GSP a quitter, BJ quits. How pathetic is that?