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AndrewFFC
10-14-2009, 06:14 PM
Had anyone consumed them for nutritional purposes?

Whats your experience and how do you evaluate the effectiveness of it.

thejokerswild
10-14-2009, 07:16 PM
we live in an age of cheap and efficient supplements but you can go for it if you like.

I used to throw a couple in my shake back when i used to lift weights. makes it all thick and nice. aswell as nutritious. You will gain a lot weight . It's full of colestoral and saturated fat.

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for all your nutritional info. basically 4 eggs will get you 347 calories - 31g of protien, but a whopping 1028mg of cholestorol. Almost 0 carbs. Nice source of Iron.

sam1222
10-14-2009, 07:26 PM
Had anyone consumed them for nutritional purposes?

Whats your experience and how do you evaluate the effectiveness of it.

I used to do 6-8 eggs in a pint of milk every morning when i was on a powerlifting routine (with my porridge!) and it helped bulk me up quite a bit :good

Fucking love the taste too! though my kids used to be nearly sick watching me drink it :lol:

AndrewFFC
10-14-2009, 08:26 PM
I used to do 6-8 eggs in a pint of milk every morning when i was on a powerlifting routine (with my porridge!) and it helped bulk me up quite a bit :good

Fucking love the taste too! though my kids used to be nearly sick watching me drink it :lol:

6-8 Eggs is insane!

I am very slight build and dont genrally eat massaive amounts of protein.
It tasted taseless to me and the yolk was a bit hard to swallow. Is it better to phase it in or anything like that?

paloalto00
10-14-2009, 08:27 PM
I have and I must say... don't do it. Made me sick to my stomach.

boxon123
10-15-2009, 12:35 AM
Raw eggs for health

I highly recommend consuming raw eggs as a way of making sure you get high quality protein and fats into your diet.
Why would anyone eat the eggs in a raw form? Heating the egg protein actually changes its chemical shape, and it is this change in the protein structure which can easily be a cause of allergies ([Only registered and activated users can see links]). The heating also destroys many of the nutrients and proteins found inside the egg.
What usually pops in people's minds when you talk about raw eggs are the risks of being infected with salmonella.
There is no doubt that salmonella is a serious infection. Its symptoms include diarrhea, abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, feve, chills. The symptoms of salmonella food poisoning can strike anyone, but they're more likely to hit 3 groups: the elderly; children; and people with HIV, cancer ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), or other diseases which impair the immune system ([Only registered and activated users can see links]).
Salmonella is usually a self-limiting illness in healthy people

However the truth is that salmonella is generally a benign self-limiting illness in healthy people. The key principle to keep in mind here is that if you are healthy a salmonella infection is not a big deal. You may feel sick and have loose stools ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) for a day or 2, but this infection is easily treated by using high-quality probiotics ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) which contain friendly bacteria. Take some probiotics every 30 minutes until you start to feel better, and in most cases your condition will improve within a few hours.
The risk of salmonella infection is usually only present in traditionally raised commercial hens. If one purchases ones eggs from healthy chickens, the risk of infection is dramatically reduced. It's important to note that only sick chickens lay salmonella-contaminated eggs. If you purchase high quality, cage-free, organically fed, chicken eggs, the risks are dramatically reduced.
If one looks at studies which have been done to analyse the risks of contracting salmonella from raw eggs, it is surprising to find out how low this risk actually is. A study by the U.S. Department of Agriculture in 2002 (Risk Analysis April 2002 22(2):203-18 ([Only registered and activated users can see links])) indicates that only 2.3 million, out of the 69 billion eggs produced annually, are contaminated with salmonella.
So this really means that only 0.003 % of eggs are infected. Viewed another way, only 1 in every 30,000 eggs is contaminated with salmonella, which shows how uncommon this problem actually is.
Based on those numbers, the average person would come across a contaminated egg only once in 42 years.

What about the biotin-deficiency risks from eating too many raw egg whites?

Egg whites contain a glycoprotein called "avidin" which binds biotin - one of the B vitamins - very effectively. The cooking process deactivates the avidin in the egg, much the same way it deactivates every other protein in the egg white.
While it is true that eating too many raw egg whites by themselves will cause you to suffer from a biotin deficiency, the fact is that nature created the egg in such a way that its yolk is very rich in biotin. One of the highest concentration in nature. Eat the egg whole together with the egg white and you will be fine.

Aajonus Vonderplanitz, in his book We Want to Live, is a strong proponent of raw eggs.

boxon123
10-15-2009, 12:38 AM
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sam1222
10-15-2009, 05:50 PM
6-8 Eggs is insane!

I am very slight build and dont genrally eat massaive amounts of protein.
It tasted taseless to me and the yolk was a bit hard to swallow. Is it better to phase it in or anything like that?


:lol:

Add more eggs and you'll taste it more. and that's what tends to make people sick (always funny) when i describe how slimy the yoke was going down, like thick snot :lol:

But yeah you could phase it in, just try a couple in half a glass of milk, and go from there. or do a couple glasses a day. i found raw eggs to be much better than protein shakes for adding bulk. fast too, people will comment after a couple weeks that you seem bigger.

AndrewFFC
10-15-2009, 05:55 PM
The yoke was pretty hard to take.

Anyway I read up a bit more and a fair few are saying the protein in raw eggs, although more, is much less absorbable.

Based on that and the info ehre ive gone out and got myself a tub of whey protein.

sam1222
10-15-2009, 07:09 PM
The yoke was pretty hard to take.

Anyway I read up a bit more and a fair few are saying the protein in raw eggs, although more, is much less absorbable.

Based on that and the info ehre ive gone out and got myself a tub of whey protein.

Whatever works best for you mate :good

I do a lot of cardio work and seemed to keep my muscle gains from the weights better when i just had raw eggs than i did when using protein powder, but like i say whatever works for you, everyone's different.

G U E R R I E R
10-15-2009, 07:14 PM
Eggs are good cholesterol by the way.

I never eat (or drink) raw eggs. I hard boil them..It takes 10 minutes and I usually take my shower while they are boiling. Not really time consuming and much tastier.

Marvelous Marcum
10-16-2009, 12:55 AM
If you stir them up before consuming... it makes the yolk much easier to get down my friends.

Johnboy2007
10-16-2009, 02:59 AM
Eggs are good cholesterol by the way.

I never eat (or drink) raw eggs. I hard boil them..It takes 10 minutes and I usually take my shower while they are boiling. Not really time consuming and much tastier.

I was going to say the same, people stay away from anything with the word cholesterol or fat in , however there is good cholesterol the same as there are good fats that are essential. Like everything in life moderation is the key!

masterold
10-16-2009, 10:08 AM
I was going to say the same, people stay away from anything with the word cholesterol or fat in , however there is good cholesterol the same as there are good fats that are essential. Like everything in life moderation is the key!

I was one of those people once, till I started asking questions on sites like this, reading whats in certain foods and why I should/ shouldn't eat such and such.

bobalachko
10-16-2009, 08:28 PM
Personally never tried it and i would have doubts about it but good luck to people who do it:thumbsup

thejokerswild
10-16-2009, 09:28 PM
mix with milk and chocolate whey mixed up with some banana. what a treat.

AndrewFFC
10-17-2009, 05:57 AM
mix with milk and chocolate whey mixed up with some banana. what a treat.

Have you been hiding in my cupboard?

This is exactly what Ive been having.

RDJ
10-17-2009, 07:01 AM
Eggs are good cholesterol by the way.

Dietary cholesterol has no influence on blood cholesterol. Blood cholesterol depends on your health in general.

RDJ
10-17-2009, 07:02 AM
I was going to say the same, people stay away from anything with the word cholesterol or fat in , however there is good cholesterol the same as there are good fats that are essential. Like everything in life moderation is the key!

The only bad fats are transfats.

GoatySimpson
10-17-2009, 02:33 PM
You don't want raw eggs. You dont want to be eating 8 yolks either. Egg white omelette people or poach and get rid of some of the yolks.

Marvelous Marcum
10-17-2009, 07:51 PM
You don't want raw eggs. You dont want to be eating 8 yolks either. Egg white omelette people or poach and get rid of some of the yolks.

Well why the hell not?

(No matter your argument, you will lose.):thumbsup

RDJ
10-17-2009, 07:53 PM
The everlasting egg discussion. He'll lose it indeed. If 8 egg yolks are too much you should simply eat 4 whole eggs instead of throwing away half the protein and all of the nutrients.

brown bomber
10-18-2009, 04:58 AM
2g of Protein per Kilo of bodyweight is considered the absolute max RDA and thats for a body builder. Seems like some of you are going a bit crazy with the protein.

RDJ
10-18-2009, 05:05 AM
2g of Protein per Kilo of bodyweight is considered the absolute max RDA and thats for a body builder. Seems like some of you are going a bit crazy with the protein.

That I agree with. Some of the people here must fart all day long. Having said that, some may be a lot bigger than me, and like sam for instance on a powerlifting routine.

Marvelous Marcum
10-18-2009, 10:36 AM
2g of Protein per Kilo of bodyweight is considered the absolute max RDA and thats for a body builder. Seems like some of you are going a bit crazy with the protein.


“Several types of evidence indicate that exercise causes substantial changes in protein metabolism. In fact, recent data suggests that the protein recommended dietary allowance might actually be 100% higher for individuals who exercise on a regular basis. Optimal intakes, although unknown, may be even higher, especially for individuals attempting to increase muscle mass and strength.”
Source: Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise” (19:5, S179-S190,1986)


Those of us that are in pursuit of above average muscle mass with extraordinary strength may in fact need more than what the sacred 'RDA' recommends. Maybe I'm not going crazy with it after all.:silly

Starched Him
10-19-2009, 12:03 PM
Never liked the Idea. You get Salmonella poisin you will be on bed rest for a week. which will hurt gains because your body wont be recovering muscle it will be fighting illness

MrSmall
10-19-2009, 01:04 PM
Raw eggs are possibly the best food you can have, top5 for sure, as an athlete even more so.

MrSmall
10-19-2009, 01:05 PM
Never liked the Idea. You get Salmonella poisin you will be on bed rest for a week. which will hurt gains because your body wont be recovering muscle it will be fighting illness

If the egg SMELLS BAD which is VERY noticeable, then don't chug that shit down.

spittle8
10-19-2009, 01:24 PM
I was going to say the same, people stay away from anything with the word cholesterol or fat in , however there is good cholesterol the same as there are good fats that are essential. Like everything in life moderation is the key!
ALL fats are good fats. What isn't good is excess.

YOU NEED EVERY KIND OF FAT TO BE HEALTHY.

Don't worry about cholesterol. Blood cholesterol is a function of the body & your genetics, NOT of your diet. If you have bad genetics, you will have high cholesterol unless you have a Spartan diet and a workout regimen. If you have good genetics, you will not get high cholesterol most likely regardless of your diet. I have low cholesterol and I absolutely should not, but everyone in my family has low cholesterol; it is genetic. OTOH, there are people with good diets and high cholesterol. Blood cholesterol is not a function of diet!

I'm intrigued by the raw eggs thing. I shall try it.


2g of Protein per Kilo of bodyweight is considered the absolute max RDA and thats for a body builder. Seems like some of you are going a bit crazy with the protein.
That's complete fucking horseshit. That should be the MINIMUM for strength athletes. Holy shit! At 180lbs you need 200grams of protein a day to get good gains, ideally. Excess protein won't really hurt you, just take days off from it to give the liver a rest. Even so, much healthier than being a couch potato.

Johnboy2007
10-19-2009, 02:07 PM
ALL fats are good fats. What isn't good is excess.

YOU NEED EVERY KIND OF FAT TO BE HEALTHY.

Don't worry about cholesterol. Blood cholesterol is a function of the body & your genetics, NOT of your diet. If you have bad genetics, you will have high cholesterol unless you have a Spartan diet and a workout regimen. If you have good genetics, you will not get high cholesterol most likely regardless of your diet. I have low cholesterol and I absolutely should not, but everyone in my family has low cholesterol; it is genetic. OTOH, there are people with good diets and high cholesterol. Blood cholesterol is not a function of diet!

I'm intrigued by the raw eggs thing. I shall try it.



That's complete fucking horseshit. That should be the MINIMUM for strength athletes. Holy shit! At 180lbs you need 200grams of protein a day to get good gains, ideally. Excess protein won't really hurt you, just take days off from it to give the liver a rest. Even so, much healthier than being a couch potato.

Yeh your right. Just the cholesterol genetics thing id disagree with. yes you can be genetically susceptible to high chol and you can be more impervious to it. But not immune. You can have good genetics but if you eat crap you can still get high cholesterol. Thats why high cholesterol is both diet and medication controlled.

Also on the other hand to validate your point, my grandad now in his late 80's had extremely low cholesterol , always ate full fat foods and animal fats. But never in excess. so both genetics and diet have played a roll! Dont think they are mutually exclusive!

Starched Him
10-23-2009, 06:55 PM
If the egg SMELLS BAD which is VERY noticeable, then don't chug that shit down.
i feel u i would fucks with it but id be the ass to get sick

Seven Chance
10-25-2009, 03:10 PM
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screw raw just get liquid

Scott Bolinger
10-26-2009, 04:23 AM
Had anyone consumed them for nutritional purposes?

Whats your experience and how do you evaluate the effectiveness of it.


it's a good protein boost. If you feeling drained, a raw egg or two can give you a boost. Or just add a raw egg when you mixing up your protein mix. In the old milke and egg protein mix I used to add a raw egg, a bannana and some honey to the mix.

RDJ
10-26-2009, 05:47 PM
Don't worry about cholesterol. Blood cholesterol is a function of the body & your genetics, NOT of your diet. If you have bad genetics, you will have high cholesterol unless you have a Spartan diet and a workout regimen. If you have good genetics, you will not get high cholesterol most likely regardless of your diet. I have low cholesterol and I absolutely should not, but everyone in my family has low cholesterol; it is genetic. OTOH, there are people with good diets and high cholesterol. Blood cholesterol is not a function of diet!

Cholesterol follows general health, the reason cholesterol is high can be an inflammation or other internal forms of damage. Diseases, inflammations, cancer, basically every form of damage will lead to high cholesterol. Diet can have a very big influence on it, but it does not have to be. The reason your body is damaged may be a terrible diet over many years, think chronic inflammations in obese people for example. Or someone who simply does not get the nutrients needed to keep his immune system working correctly.

You are correct that eating cholesterol does not directly influence blood cholesterol, but a bad diet can lead to bad health and that definitely has an effect on blood cholesterol.

spittle8
10-26-2009, 07:32 PM
Cholesterol follows general health, the reason cholesterol is high can be an inflammation or other internal forms of damage. Diseases, inflammations, cancer, basically every form of damage will lead to high cholesterol. Diet can have a very big influence on it, but it does not have to be. The reason your body is damaged may be a terrible diet over many years, think chronic inflammations in obese people for example. Or someone who simply does not get the nutrients needed to keep his immune system working correctly.

You are correct that eating cholesterol does not directly influence blood cholesterol, but a bad diet can lead to bad health and that definitely has an effect on blood cholesterol.
Well naturally, but I was only addressing cholesterol.

I followed your advice and started drinking tea, and I'm digging it so far. Haven't been able to eat right though, don't buy the groceries I'm afraid. Anytime RDJ comments on nutrition I take note:D

RDJ
10-26-2009, 07:55 PM
Well naturally, but I was only addressing cholesterol.

I followed your advice and started drinking tea, and I'm digging it so far. Haven't been able to eat right though, don't buy the groceries I'm afraid. Anytime RDJ comments on nutrition I take note:D

Thanks mate :oops: :D

Teas are great supplements indeed.